‘You Are Terrifying Us’

[Guest]

This is a link to a very thoughtful piece by Peggy Noonan in Friday’s Wall Street Journal. Worth reading and giving some thoughtful consideration, regardless of your stand on the healthcare issue.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204908604574334623330098540.html

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agenda. The issue will get resolved only when it is the issue that is addressed. It becomes unreal when people try to force fit an out come or stance based on party lines. Just as the administration and the media are now trying to make the reactions at the town hall meetings a partisan motivation. Doesn't that just flash the sign of hypocrite in big bold, good old fashioned neon???

Demand addressing the issue....not the party. Your party affiliation will get you no different treatment when the take away of benefits is enacted or the taxes raised. So since those that will be affected negatively by the legislation is a party insensitive application.....why not let the evaluation of it before enacted be like wise???

Pretty basic I think.

btk

Please feel free to submit this email to the WH:laugh:

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This is a link to a very thoughtful piece by Peggy Noonan in Friday’s Wall Street Journal. Worth reading and giving some thoughtful consideration, regardless of your stand on the healthcare issue.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970204908604574334623330098540.html
She hit the nail on the head - big time!

So, if you disagree with the Democratic Party position, you could be turned into the White House via email as a "health care dissident."

They are even using government assets to collect information on who doesn't agree with them, and have never provided any information via the Federal Register which by law (Privacy Act of 1974, as amended; codified as 5 USC 552a) (see http://www.usdoj.gov/opcl/privstat.htm) they are supposed to, regarding what's being collected, why, how it is to be stored and who will have access to the information - that's mandatory for any "system of records" within the government. Using email to collect information qualifies as a "system of record."

What's next? What do they do with the names? If you disagree with the Administration's or the Democratic Party position, the IRS comes after you as a person of "special interest?"

So, the Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover modus operandi is alive and well - we just substitute "disagrees with heath care plan" for "red scare."

Yep, that's "Change." Do you believe in it?

[Guest]

Scary stuff isn't it? Did you ever think?

[Guest]

She hit the nail on the head - big time!

So, if you disagree with the Democratic Party position, you could be turned into the White House via email as a "health care dissident."

They are even using government assets to collect information on who doesn't agree with them, and have never provided any information via the Federal Register which by law (Privacy Act of 1974, as amended; codified as 5 USC 552a) (see http://www.usdoj.gov/opcl/privstat.htm) they are supposed to, regarding what's being collected, why, how it is to be stored and who will have access to the information - that's mandatory for any "system of records" within the government. Using email to collect information qualifies as a "system of record."

What's next? What do they do with the names? If you disagree with the Administration's or the Democratic Party position, the IRS comes after you as a person of "special interest?"

So, the Joe McCarthy and J. Edgar Hoover modus operandi is alive and well - we just substitute "disagrees with heath care plan" for "red scare."

Yep, that's "Change." Do you believe in it?

Do you think their monitoring this forum? Oh sh*t ! It's a good thing I use a pseudonym.

[Guest]

with the boys in the black SUV's.

btk

[Guest]

with the boys in the black SUV's.

btk

Don't forget the black helicopters... They have infra-red camera's with zoom lens :crap2:

[Guest]

Remember Lee Iacocca, the man who rescued Chrysler Corporation from its death throes? He's now 82 years old and has a new book, 'Where Have All The Leaders Gone?'.
Lee Iacocca Says:

'Am I the only guy in this country who's fed up with what's happening? Where the hell is our outrage? We should be screaming bloody murder! We've got a gang of clueless bozos steering our ship of state right over a cliff, we've got corporate gangsters stealing us blind, and we can't even clean up after a hurricane much less build a hybrid car. But instead of getting mad, everyone sits around and nods their heads when the politicians say, 'Stay the course..'

Stay the course? You've got to be kidding. This is America , not the damned, 'Titanic'. I'll give you a sound bite: 'Throw all the bums out!'

You might think I'm getting senile, that I've gone off my rocker, and maybe I have. But someone has to speak up. I hardly recognize this country anymore..

The most famous business leaders are not the innovators but the guys in handcuffs.. While we're fiddling in Iraq , the Middle East is burning and nobody seems to know what to do. And the press is waving 'pom-poms' instead of asking hard questions. That's not the promise of the ' America ' my parents and yours traveled across the ocean for. I've had enough. How about you?

I'll go a step further. You can't call yourself a patriot if you're not outraged. This is a fight I'm ready and willing to have. The Biggest 'C' is Crisis! (Iacocca elaborates on nine C's of leadership, with crisis being the first.)

Leaders are made, not born. Leadership is forged in times of crisis. It's easy to sit there with your feet up on the desk and talk theory. Or send someone else's kids off to war when you've never seen a battlefield yourself.. It's another thing to lead when your world comes tumbling down.

On September 11, 2001, we needed a strong leader more than any other time in our history. We needed a steady hand to guide us out of the ashes. A hell of a mess, so here's where we stand.

We're immersed in a bloody war with no plan for winning and no plan for leaving.

We're running the biggest deficit in the history of the country.

We're losing the manufacturing edge to Asia , while our once-great companies are getting slaughtered by health care costs.

Gas prices are skyrocketing, and nobody in power has a coherent energy policy. Our schools are in trouble.

Our borders are like sieves.

The middle class is being squeezed every which way.

These are times that cry out for leadership.

But when you look around, you've got to ask: 'Where have all the leaders gone?' Where are the curious, creative communicators? Where are the people of character, courage, conviction, omnipotence, and common sense? I may be a sucker for alliteration, but I think you get the point.

Name me a leader who has a better idea for homeland security than making us take off our shoes in airports and throw away our shampoo?

We've spent billions of dollars building a huge new bureaucracy, and all we know how to do is react to things that have already happened.

Name me one leader who emerged from the crisis of Hurricane Katrina. Congress has yet to spend a single day evaluating the response to the hurricane or demanding accountability for the decisions that were made in the crucial hours after the storm.

Everyone's hunkering down, fingers crossed, hoping it doesn't happen again. Now, that's just crazy. Storms happen. Deal with it. Make a plan. Figure out what you're going to do the next time.

Name me an industry leader who is thinking creatively about how we can restore our competitive edge in manufacturing. Who would have believed that there could ever be a time when 'The Big Three' referred to Japanese car companies? How did this happen, and more important, what are we going to do about it?

Name me a government leader who can articulate a plan for paying down the debit, or solving the energy crisis, or managing the health care problem. The silence is deafening. But these are the crises that are eating away at our country and milking the middle class dry.

I have news for the gang in Congress. We didn't elect you to sit on your asses and do nothing and remain silent while our democracy is being hijacked and our greatness is being replaced with mediocrity. What is everybody so afraid of? That some bonehead on NBC news or CNN news will call them a name? Give me a break. Why don't you guys show some spine for a change?

Had Enough? Hey, I'm not trying to be the voice of gloom and doom here. I'm trying to light a fire. I'm speaking out because I have hope - I believe in America . In my lifetime, I've had the privilege of living through some of America 's greatest moments. I've also experienced some of our worst crises: The 'Great Depression,' 'World War II,' the 'Korean War,' the 'Kennedy Assassination,' the 'Vietnam War,' the 1970's oil crisis, and the struggles of recent years culminating with 9/11.

If I've learned one thing, it's this: 'You don't get anywhere by standing on the sidelines waiting for somebody else to take action. Whether it's building a better car or building a better future for our children, we all have a role to play. That's the challenge I'm raising in this book. It's a "Call to Action" for people who, like me, believe in America '. It's not too late, but it's getting pretty close. So let's shake off the crap and go to work. Let's tell 'em all we've had 'enough.'

[Guest]

And here it is, straight talk, cutting to the chase, a short cut and paste from Peggy Noonan's WSJ article in the above link from BBQMan:

...........The president should call in his troops and his Congress and announce a rethinking. There are too many different bills, they’re all a thousand pages long, no one has time to read them, no one knows what’s going to be in the final one, the public is agitated, the nation’s in crisis, the timing is wrong, we’ll turn to it again—but not now. We’ll take a little longer, ponder every aspect, and make clear every complication.

You know what would happen if he did this? His numbers would go up. Even Congress’s would. Because they’d look responsive, deliberative and even wise. Discretion is the better part of valor....................

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My people call that moderate thinking.
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And, in conclusion, Peggy Noonan said,.......

It’s going to be a long August, isn’t it? Let’s hope the uncharted territory we’re in doesn’t turn dark...........

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We need affordable access to healthcare for all Americans. There is so much at stake in the lives of so many individuals. But this thing has to slow down. I know she is a conservative writer, but she did not say, "NO!" She said, "Figure it out. Get it right." (at least that's what I heard.) This is so awful on so many levels.

Thanks for the link, BBQ.

Boomer