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Rockyrd
04-02-2017, 07:02 PM
This is from a man who grew up and watched the destruction of Venzuela and sees many comparable to the United States at present.
I grew up surrounded by Chávez’s alternate reality. Now I’m watching one consume the United States.
"Meanwhile, the developed world seems to be discovering this concept for the first time. As President Donald Trump and his team of surrogates lay waste to one fact after another, the Western media is brimming with lamentations about our entry into the post-factual era and eulogies for the “factual” one we left behind. In these essays, post-truthism is typically defined as some sort of illness of objectivity, brought on by a rise in subjectivity and sheer emotion. “The truth has become so devalued,” they say, “that what was once the gold standard of political debate is a worthless currency.”
But take it from someone who grew up in Venezuela, surrounded by a fictional universe of Chávez’s making: These interpretations are all wrong. For one, they assume that the scientific understanding of the world is somehow the natural route—the obvious one, the longstanding one—when in fact, blind faith was until very recently the unvarying constant of civilization. "
Donald Trump’s Fictional America - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/donald-trumps-fictional-america-post-fact-venezuela-214973)
Reiver
04-02-2017, 07:39 PM
I disagree. We are much more like The Duchy of Grand Fenwick.
ColdNoMore
04-02-2017, 07:41 PM
This is from a man who grew up and watched the destruction of Venzuela and sees many comparable to the United States at present.
I grew up surrounded by Chávez’s alternate reality. Now I’m watching one consume the United States.
"Meanwhile, the developed world seems to be discovering this concept for the first time. As President Donald Trump and his team of surrogates lay waste to one fact after another, the Western media is brimming with lamentations about our entry into the post-factual era and eulogies for the “factual” one we left behind. In these essays, post-truthism is typically defined as some sort of illness of objectivity, brought on by a rise in subjectivity and sheer emotion. “The truth has become so devalued,” they say, “that what was once the gold standard of political debate is a worthless currency.”
But take it from someone who grew up in Venezuela, surrounded by a fictional universe of Chávez’s making: These interpretations are all wrong. For one, they assume that the scientific understanding of the world is somehow the natural route—the obvious one, the longstanding one—when in fact, blind faith was until very recently the unvarying constant of civilization. "
Donald Trump’s Fictional America - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/04/donald-trumps-fictional-america-post-fact-venezuela-214973)
To me, here is the key point in that article.
Trump did all of the above—constructing an alternate reality that gave his supporters a concise answer to their question, and the hope of a solution.
It doesn’t matter that it’s all bogus. To Trump voters, a fake reality—especially one laden with obvious enemies and golden promises—is better than nothing, or more of the same.
rubicon
04-03-2017, 04:26 AM
It is utterly fascinating to witness the the paranoia, anxiety and delusions associated with Trump Derangement Syndrome. (TDS) However, since paranoia and the associated anxiety delusions result from what the medical experts term "lack of insight" one almost feels sad for progressives all because they actually believe all that the OP delivered. Will the medical community ever be able to cure TDS?
Personal Best Regards:
ColdNoMore
04-03-2017, 05:18 AM
It is utterly fascinating to witness the the paranoia, anxiety and delusions associated with Trump Derangement Syndrome. (TDS) However, since paranoia and the associated anxiety delusions result from what the medical experts term "lack of insight" one almost feels sad for progressives all because they actually believe all that the OP delivered. Will the medical community ever be able to cure TDS?
Personal Best Regards:
As you so aptly prove on a consistent basis, your made-up TDS isn't nearly as strong as... ‘Chump Defense Syndrome.’ (CDS) :oops:
Which is characterized by putting ones hands over ones ears...and closing ones eyes. :D
MDLNB
04-03-2017, 06:38 AM
It is utterly fascinating to witness the the paranoia, anxiety and delusions associated with Trump Derangement Syndrome. (TDS) However, since paranoia and the associated anxiety delusions result from what the medical experts term "lack of insight" one almost feels sad for progressives all because they actually believe all that the OP delivered. Will the medical community ever be able to cure TDS?
Personal Best Regards:
Totally agree. It is so disappointing to watch these leftards being so hysterical. This is a great example of Mass Hysteria. In this case, it is not a CIA experiment, rather a product of millions of bucks invested by Soros to perpetrate the easily deluded.
Taltarzac725
04-03-2017, 07:49 AM
Totally agree. It is so disappointing to watch these leftards being so hysterical. This is a great example of Mass Hysteria. In this case, it is not a CIA experiment, rather a product of millions of bucks invested by Soros to perpetrate the easily deluded.
Where do you get this Soros garbage? Steve Bannon is huge part of Trump's Presidency!!!! How is Soros connected with that of Obama or Clinton?
Abby10
04-03-2017, 08:46 AM
Where do you get this Soros garbage? Steve Bannon is huge part of Trump's Presidency!!!! How is Soros connected with that of Obama or Clinton?
You had to have missed a large portion of the news if you are unaware of the Clinton/Soros connection. He was a major contributor to her campaign and according to Politico (which seems to be a favorite site with some on here ), it states that he has had a 25 year relationship with her. Sorry, I can't link with this device I'm using, but if you google it, it will come right up - a July 2016 article.
Rockyrd
04-03-2017, 09:00 AM
You had to have missed a large portion of the news if you are unaware of the Clinton/Soros connection. He was a major contributor to her campaign and according to Politico (which seems to be a favorite site with some on here ), it states that he has had a 25 year relationship with her. Sorry, I can't link with this device I'm using, but if you google it, it will come right up - a July 2016 article.
I realize after reading here and getting notice on some pm's that I am the real dumb guy on here, but please someone tell me the connection between Clinton/Soros and an author who is also an economist who grew up in a similar atmosphere in Venezuela.
Just allow me what is the connection or the importance of this.
Again, will go back to the dummie corner since nobody wants to discuss SYRIA...NAFTA or actually any issues of substance.
This board is made for hate speak and Trump worship and thats it.....but tell me the connection between a loser in the last election, a contributor for years to her campaigns (as was Trump) and this writer from Venezuela
Thank you
Abby10
04-03-2017, 09:19 AM
I realize after reading here and getting notice on some pm's that I am the real dumb guy on here, but please someone tell me the connection between Clinton/Soros and an author who is also an economist who grew up in a similar atmosphere in Venezuela.
Just allow me what is the connection or the importance of this.
Again, will go back to the dummie corner since nobody wants to discuss SYRIA...NAFTA or actually any issues of substance.
This board is made for hate speak and Trump worship and thats it.....but tell me the connection between a loser in the last election, a contributor for years to her campaigns (as was Trump) and this writer from Venezuela
Thank you
Sorry, you are correct in that it was off topic from the OP, but I was responding to another poster's question......carry on, back to original topic of thread.
MDLNB
04-03-2017, 10:33 AM
Where do you get this Soros garbage? Steve Bannon is huge part of Trump's Presidency!!!! How is Soros connected with that of Obama or Clinton?
Tal, surely you jest? With all due respect for your being a library scholar and expert, you must have at some time or another, done some research on your party's largest, major contributor? One that has the most effect on your party and the one that has pushed his commie agenda on many greedy left wing politicians. Soros also owns more liberal media networks, papers and magazines than Mcdonald's has sold burgers. Soros is a radical and a WWII war criminal that perpetrated vile deeds against his own people(Jews) when working with the Nazis. He is a destroyer of countries. A vulgar, nasty and evil man. And he is defended by the greedy left, that sometimes benefit from his unlimited funds.
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