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affald
04-06-2017, 08:13 AM
As more and more criminal acts of the Obama administration come to light, one has to ask, is retroactive impeachment inevitable?
Taltarzac725
04-06-2017, 09:55 AM
The Inevitability Of Impeachment | The Huffington Post (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/the-inevitability-of-impeachment_us_588e8d52e4b0b065cbbcd09f)
Well I like this. Affald is on my Ignore List with good reason as is Dirtbanker. So, I have no idea nor could care less what these two immature men post. I do see that they posted but only that.
cologal
04-06-2017, 11:30 AM
As more and more criminal acts of the Obama administration come to light, one has to ask, is retroactive impeachment inevitable?
How about naming the proven, in a court of law, act!
graciegirl
04-06-2017, 11:48 AM
How about naming the proven, in a court of law, act!
Cologne Gal,
Speculation and discussion is what usually happens on Forums of this nature. I don't mind that as long as the lust to kill with words doesn't interfere.
Proving something until it happens would sink all the feisty souls and their posts who type here.
Since I have left my liberal leaning youth behind and now live independently of my folks, the government and all others I am willing to speculate that Ms. Rice is not someone I like as well as the other Condoleeza one. Just between us women, I think the Rice woman in question has been up to something. I have no proof. None. I see you lean the other way. How about a small wager? A fish sandwich from McDonalds...?
MDLNB
04-06-2017, 11:57 AM
Cologne Gal,
Speculation and discussion is what usually happens on Forums of this nature. I don't mind that as long as the lust to kill with words doesn't interfere.
Proving something until it happens would sink all the feisty souls and their posts who type here.
Since I have left my liberal leaning youth behind and now live independently of my folks, the government and all others I am willing to speculate that Ms. Rice is not someone I like as well as the other Condoleeza one. Just between us women, I think the Rice woman in question has been up to something. I have no proof. None. I see you lean the other way. How about a small wager? A fish sandwich from McDonalds...?
I agree with that thought. How else could someone that obviously inept, survive in D.C.
Rockyrd
04-06-2017, 12:06 PM
How about naming the proven, in a court of law, act!
I agree.
I think it abhorrent to accuse people, on this forum or anywhere, and then to have it come from the President of the United States sort of makes me queasy. He has flipping out so many charges personally, with ever any backup.
If he is right, then allow them..all of them...be persecuted.
In the meantime, concentrate on being President and stop getting involved in such crap. It is well beneath the office he holds.
Rockyrd
04-06-2017, 12:07 PM
I agree with that thought. How else could someone that obviously inept, survive in D.C.
She is inept based on what facts ?
cologal
04-06-2017, 12:44 PM
Cologne Gal actually its COLOGAL.
Speculation and discussion is what usually happens on Forums of this nature. I don't mind that as long as the lust to kill with words doesn't interfere.
Proving something until it happens would sink all the feisty souls and their posts who type here.
Since I have left my liberal leaning youth behind and now live independently of my folks, the government and all others I am willing to speculate that Ms. Rice is not someone I like as well as the other Condoleeza one. Just between us women, I think the Rice woman in question has been up to something. I have no proof. None. I see you lean the other way. How about a small wager? A fish sandwich from McDonalds...?
After two different bouts of name calling from you I will respectfully decline your offer.
dirtbanker
04-06-2017, 12:53 PM
After two different bouts of name calling from you I will respectfully decline your offer.
I thought you ran off to the peak? I was in TV last weekend you could have bought me that cofee!!
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Taltarzac725
04-06-2017, 01:00 PM
After two different bouts of name calling from you I will respectfully decline your offer.
I am starting to see an ugly side of her too. Not sure I want to meet her all that much anymore. There are some rather nasty trolls on here stirring the pot but that can be fixed by just putting them on the Ignore Lost.
ColdNoMore
04-06-2017, 01:38 PM
I am starting to see an ugly side of her too. Not sure I want to meet her all that much anymore. There are some rather nasty trolls on here stirring the pot but that can be fixed by just putting them on the Ignore Lost.
I guess I had the advantage, as GG showed her real self to me immediately after I got here, instead of being sucked in like so many others...with her fake, hypocritical and two-faced homey little sayings.
rubicon
04-06-2017, 03:58 PM
Let me pose this question to all of the posters on this thread, and if you respond to my comments, I hope you do so with honesty, integrity and objectively. Assume the person(s) in question have their names redacted . so you only know the allegations and not the person.
When it comes to matters of corruption, dishonesty, omissions or commissions, failure of duties. immoral turpitude , unconstitutionality.........etc .
Investigations as to fact, should be conducted immediately, swiftly, objectively with no hidden agenda (ie made in good faith) . (yes or no)
If such malfeasance is proven to be factual and true then irrespective of party, race, religion, gender etc such perpetrators should be punished accordingly and swiftly and to the full extent of the law. (yes or no)
Personal Best Regards:
MDLNB
04-06-2017, 04:06 PM
She is inept based on what facts ?
Well Rocky, if you do not stay up on current events, it is difficult bringing you up to date. She is either inept or a serial liar. Which do your prefer? Try listening to her on Youtube. Lots of lies. Either she is inept and stupid, ignorant of what's happening around her, like many liberals. OR, she is a devious serial liar. Either way, she is not a good person.
Rockyrd
04-06-2017, 04:15 PM
Let me pose this question to all of the posters on this thread, and if you respond to my comments, I hope you do so with honesty, integrity and objectively. Assume the person(s) in question have their names redacted . so you only know the allegations and not the person.
When it comes to matters of corruption, dishonesty, omissions or commissions, failure of duties. immoral turpitude , unconstitutionality.........etc .
Investigations as to fact, should be conducted immediately, swiftly, objectively with no hidden agenda (ie made in good faith) . (yes or no)
If such malfeasance is proven to be factual and true then irrespective of party, race, religion, gender etc such perpetrators should be punished accordingly and swiftly and to the full extent of the law. (yes or no)
Personal Best Regards:
With respect, as to current events, the names redacted are American citizens mentioned in intelligence gathering of foreign powers. Thus, the unmasking is usually done for context, or for a reference to our executive branch.
You are making a very straightforward subject very complicated for some reason. Thus, investigations are made in private by intelligence org, and in the present term under way. Secondly, such investigations are undertaken when National Security is at risk, not on an individual case.
And I assure you, when the entire body of investigation is complete, any parties will be swiftly prosecuted.
Again, assuming you are speaking of current time...the investigation is on going. I am wondering about the unmasking of Susan Rice and leak to Fox. But, again, it is all up under investigations, and recall...the investigation is about campaign interaction with foreign government....all of which you seem more interested in is based on accusations made publicly by the President.
What you speak of is secondary to an investigation into foreign interference and possible collusion. I also must remind you that Rice' s lob was to read intelligence reports and brief the President, much as Trump has done for him each day. She makes the call on REQUESTING any unmasking. I also remind you that this investigation by congress was ongoing while she was still in that position.
You can beat this to death if you wish, but is truely an incendental part of the investigation, made only public by the President for some reason. Again, it was part of her job....if she did anything wrong, it will be discovered but THAT is not what the investigation is about. We really should not even be aware, but Fox received an ANONYMOUS tip, and the President made it news.
dirtbanker
04-06-2017, 04:19 PM
Rubi - I say Yes and Yes.
Rockface - you quote the guy but can't answer 2 simple questions in the quote? WTF??
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Rockyrd
04-06-2017, 04:21 PM
Well Rocky, if you do not stay up on current events, it is difficult bringing you up to date. She is either inept or a serial liar. Which do your prefer? Try listening to her on Youtube. Lots of lies. Either she is inept and stupid, ignorant of what's happening around her, like many liberals. OR, she is a devious serial liar. Either way, she is not a good person.
And you determined this based on knowledge you have that is proof ?
I am not supporting Rice. I am fighting the total unamerican accusations being thrown from the White House. I could easily accuse the currebpnt Security Advisor who has her job of leaking to Fox anonymously, and guess what...if I did, I better have proof...the President made that accusation with no proof and he did it publicly. Also, if I accused Trumps National Security Advisor, he would have trouble defending himself because if the very nature of his job.
That is why you seldom hear of such things. However, the President felt obligated to publicly accuse.
Again, the investigation by congress is about colluding with Russia
dirtbanker
04-06-2017, 04:24 PM
Fighting un-American accusations??? Lol
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Rockyrd
04-06-2017, 04:26 PM
Rubi - I say Yes and Yes.
Rockface - you quote the guy but can't answer 2 simple questions in the quote? WTF??
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Easy, he is referring to Susan Rice, which firstly is NOT the main reason for the investigation, and let's assume the President simply decided to accuse her...there is no evidence to support his claim and he offered none.
Same as his accusation of Obama wiretapping...no evidence offered, but congress did in fact look and found no evidence.
Investigation continues and you can keep on kicking this but if you would understand, you are a good soldier....the WH wants to keep the focus on what THEY want to focus on, but again....everything will be reported in time.
You cannot answer those questions because in order to even investigate you need to present evidence which nobody including the President has offered.
MDLNB
04-06-2017, 04:27 PM
And you determined this based on knowledge you have that is proof ?
I am not supporting Rice. I am fighting the total unamerican accusations being thrown from the White House. I could easily accuse the currebpnt Security Advisor who has her job of leaking to Fox anonymously, and guess what...if I did, I better have proof...the President made that accusation with no proof and he did it publicly. Also, if I accused Trumps National Security Advisor, he would have trouble defending himself because if the very nature of his job.
That is why you seldom hear of such things. However, the President felt obligated to publicly accuse.
Again, the investigation by congress is about colluding with Russia
Whatever floats your boat, Rocky. Sorry, but I'm bored listening to you trying to convince yourself of whatever it is you are trying to get straight. I'm missing The Five, so catch you later. I don't watch a lot of FOX but I like that show sometimes, and the new Tucker show. Catch you on the flip.
Rockyrd
04-06-2017, 04:28 PM
Fighting un-American accusations??? Lol
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Can you tell me any President ever who has all the intelligence agencies, FBI on speed dial to get instant info, ever....Accused anyone publicly of felonies ? Ever ? That, accusing without evidence is not American to me.
dirtbanker
04-06-2017, 04:36 PM
If Rice unmasked the names for political reasons and she reports her findings to Obamma...guess what?
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Warren Kiefer
04-06-2017, 04:51 PM
As more and more criminal acts of the Obama administration come to light, one has to ask, is retroactive impeachment inevitable?
What criminal acts are you talking about. Are you truly goofy or simply pretending to be ??
Warren Kiefer
04-06-2017, 04:53 PM
If Rice unmasked the names for political reasons and she reports her findings to Obamma...guess what?
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If, If, If If. Do we now sent people to jail for something they might have done ???
Rockyrd
04-06-2017, 04:59 PM
If, If, If If. Do we now sent people to jail for something they might have done ???
Not only the IF....
These folks on here want instant justice for someone simply because the President made an accusation.
They seem not to care at all about Russians trying to interfere in our election, and maybe colluding with Americans..
THAT seems to take second or third place to an unsubstantiated accusation.
Not only unsubstantiated, but no attempt to substantiate.
dirtbanker
04-06-2017, 05:36 PM
If, If, If If. Do we now sent people to jail for something they might have done ??? are you suggesting nobody should be punished if they did something wrong???
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dirtbanker
04-06-2017, 05:38 PM
Not only the IF....
These folks on here want instant justice for someone simply because the President made an accusation.
They seem not to care at all about Russians trying to interfere in our election, and maybe colluding with Americans..
THAT seems to take second or third place to an unsubstantiated accusation.
Not only unsubstantiated, but no attempt to substantiate.
Well I want somebody to go to jail if they did do something. And I don't give a s*** if it was because of an accusation or not but they got caught doing something that has a jail sentence affiliated with it!
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affald
04-06-2017, 05:46 PM
What criminal acts are you talking about. Are you truly goofy or simply pretending to be ??
You can't be that unaware of the criminal acts of Obama's administration.
Here is a short book that goes into some details of the pre 2014 criminal acts. The Post 2014 crimes will be a much bigger book. If you are enjoying a busy retirement have wackadoodle read the book for you.
The People Vs. Barack Obama: The Criminal Case Against the Obama Administration: Ben Shapiro: 9781476765136: Amazon.com: Books (https://www.amazon.com/People-Vs-Barack-Obama-Administration/dp/1476765138)
The book has so many facts about Obama's presidency!! It's truely unbelievable how he was never in the wrong and always claims he just learned about the sandal from the news.
cologal
04-06-2017, 06:30 PM
I thought you ran off to the peak? I was in TV last weekend you could have bought me that cofee!!
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Nah I return to the Peak in May!
cologal
04-06-2017, 06:35 PM
I am starting to see an ugly side of her too. Not sure I want to meet her all that much anymore. There are some rather nasty trolls on here stirring the pot but that can be fixed by just putting them on the Ignore Lost.
So I quess the feeling is mutual now!! Good....
RickeyD
04-06-2017, 06:46 PM
I guess I had the advantage, as GG showed her real self to me immediately after I got here, instead of being sucked in like so many others...with her fake, hypocritical and two-faced homey little sayings.
Kinda like a bizzaro Will Rodgers ?
autumnspring
04-11-2017, 01:28 PM
As more and more criminal acts of the Obama administration come to light, one has to ask, is retroactive impeachment inevitable?
Hillary as a young atty worked on the effort to impeach Nixon. The finding of Hillary's research is that the president is IN FACT above the law. As I recall one of the few grounds to impeach a president and remove him or her from office-not just bring them up on charges-is treason. Nixon was not removed from office-he resigned. Billy, can't control his willy was not removed from office. Sadly, having the moral standards of a pimp was not the issue. Lying to the American people-I did not have sex with that woman-og that stain-OOPS. Billy was charged with lying to congress-CLEARLY HE WAS GUILTY AND YET, IT DID NOT GET HIM REMOVED FROM OFFICE. Sadly, the American people, at least some American people were willing to vote for Hillary and did not even ask about an illegal third term for the Clinton MOB.
As to impeaching Obama-that is simply impossible. Term limits removed Obama and the voters refused to install Hillary who is further left than Obama-IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
As to Hillary-she does not have the protection of being president and she has been proven to be a criminal.
Hillary does in fact belong in jail. Will it happen? Do we want it to happen? I expect like many things, a threat could well do more than actually doing it.
MDLNB
04-12-2017, 03:43 AM
Hillary as a young atty worked on the effort to impeach Nixon. The finding of Hillary's research is that the president is IN FACT above the law. As I recall one of the few grounds to impeach a president and remove him or her from office-not just bring them up on charges-is treason. Nixon was not removed from office-he resigned. Billy, can't control his willy was not removed from office. Sadly, having the moral standards of a pimp was not the issue. Lying to the American people-I did not have sex with that woman-og that stain-OOPS. Billy was charged with lying to congress-CLEARLY HE WAS GUILTY AND YET, IT DID NOT GET HIM REMOVED FROM OFFICE. Sadly, the American people, at least some American people were willing to vote for Hillary and did not even ask about an illegal third term for the Clinton MOB.
As to impeaching Obama-that is simply impossible. Term limits removed Obama and the voters refused to install Hillary who is further left than Obama-IF THAT IS POSSIBLE.
As to Hillary-she does not have the protection of being president and she has been proven to be a criminal.
Hillary does in fact belong in jail. Will it happen? Do we want it to happen? I expect like many things, a threat could well do more than actually doing it.
I vote that we make that threat a reality. Jail Hillary and show America that NO ONE is above the law. I can see the hands off approach to Obama. After all, we do not want racial riots in D.C. like the ones when MLK was murdered. We don't want the animals burning down their own businesses again. Jail Hillary and Make America Great Again.
Don Baldwin
04-12-2017, 06:03 AM
I vote that we make that threat a reality. Jail Hillary and show America that NO ONE is above the law. I can see the hands off approach to Obama. After all, we do not want racial riots in D.C. like the ones when MLK was murdered. We don't want the animals burning down their own businesses again. Jail Hillary and Make America Great Again.
God forbid we "anger" the minority hordes!
So...we let them do whatever they want and we blame ourselves for the outcome.
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