The Villages Dog Friendly?

[fred53]

To the extent that any responsible community is dog friendly....1)keep your dog off of others property(that includes the lawns)as that is the law and only proper if you have respect for others and some common sense. 2) pick up after your dog in the dog parks and common areas. 3)don't go walking on the golf course with your dog(or without)after hours. It is not permitted and even though you'll likely get away with it it is wrong. 4)not everyone wants your dog sniffing them. A 6foot lead is the law. Those leads that extend beyond that are not legal, but many lazy owners could care less so don't be surprised when someone gets upset with you. 5)a dog is part of your family not others so don't expect them to act like it's human. 6)riding with your dog on your lap while driving is stupid. You not only don't have the reflexes you had when younger, you're easily distracted...so cut it out.

A community that is dog friendly also has dog owners who are responsible and respect the rights of others. Get with the program and don't be part of the problem. I love dogs, but some owners need extended training.

[Sandtrap328]

Exactly what is the purpose of this post?

You have just stated the very obvious facts.

Once again, why the post?

[CWGUY]

Exactly what is the purpose of this post?

You have just stated the very obvious facts.

Once again, why the post?

:undecided: Because "The Hat Thread" was closed??;)

[Greg Nelson]

woof woof TV is Disney for dogs too

[RickeyD]

To the extent that any responsible community is dog friendly....1)keep your dog off of others property(that includes the lawns)as that is the law and only proper if you have respect for others and some common sense. 2) pick up after your dog in the dog parks and common areas. 3)don't go walking on the golf course with your dog(or without)after hours. It is not permitted and even though you'll likely get away with it it is wrong. 4)not everyone wants your dog sniffing them. A 6foot lead is the law. Those leads that extend beyond that are not legal, but many lazy owners could care less so don't be surprised when someone gets upset with you. 5)a dog is part of your family not others so don't expect them to act like it's human. 6)riding with your dog on your lap while driving is stupid. You not only don't have the reflexes you had when younger, you're easily distracted...so cut it out.

A community that is dog friendly also has dog owners who are responsible and respect the rights of others. Get with the program and don't be part of the problem. I love dogs, but some owners need extended training.



The fact that you need to express the obvious indicates there is a problem. I did not know those reel leashes were illegal but having a dog on your lap while driving should be. Good post.

[cmj1210]

Exactly what is the purpose of this post?

You have just stated the very obvious facts.

Once again, why the post?


I believe the purpose of this post is there are many considerate dog owners who will not let their dog on other peoples lawns and pick up after their pooch, but there are many others who do not.

[ColdNoMore]

I believe the purpose of this post is there are many considerate dog owners who will not let their dog on other peoples lawns and pick up after their pooch, but there are many others who do not.

:agree:

[perrjojo]

Grandchildren driving carts, dogs pooping on my lawn, bicyclists gone wild, pedestrians walking on the cart path, speeding golf carts, drinking and driving carts, old, unfit automobile drivers, crazy lawn ornaments, Snowbirds, too much traffic, too much growth, stupid judges.
Why do 120,000 people,want to live here? I love TV...I must be some kind of nut.

[rubicon]

To the extent that any responsible community is dog friendly....1)keep your dog off of others property(that includes the lawns)as that is the law and only proper if you have respect for others and some common sense. 2) pick up after your dog in the dog parks and common areas. 3)don't go walking on the golf course with your dog(or without)after hours. It is not permitted and even though you'll likely get away with it it is wrong. 4)not everyone wants your dog sniffing them. A 6foot lead is the law. Those leads that extend beyond that are not legal, but many lazy owners could care less so don't be surprised when someone gets upset with you. 5)a dog is part of your family not others so don't expect them to act like it's human. 6)riding with your dog on your lap while driving is stupid. You not only don't have the reflexes you had when younger, you're easily distracted...so cut it out.

A community that is dog friendly also has dog owners who are responsible and respect the rights of others. Get with the program and don't be part of the problem. I love dogs, but some owners need extended training.

Fred: I share your views, and include those dog owners that walk with their dogs off their leash.

concerns such as expressed here along with inconsiderate drivers, traffic etc are a symptom of the bigger problem expansion. whether a person is more adaptable or less tolerate has to do with expectations. I can tell you my definition of paradise doesn't include overcrowding.

boy wonder if I am going to find that heaven is overcrowded, that would just be hell :D

[DonH57]

To the extent that any responsible community is dog friendly....1)keep your dog off of others property(that includes the lawns)as that is the law and only proper if you have respect for others and some common sense. 2) pick up after your dog in the dog parks and common areas. 3)don't go walking on the golf course with your dog(or without)after hours. It is not permitted and even though you'll likely get away with it it is wrong. 4)not everyone wants your dog sniffing them. A 6foot lead is the law. Those leads that extend beyond that are not legal, but many lazy owners could care less so don't be surprised when someone gets upset with you. 5)a dog is part of your family not others so don't expect them to act like it's human. 6)riding with your dog on your lap while driving is stupid. You not only don't have the reflexes you had when younger, you're easily distracted...so cut it out.

A community that is dog friendly also has dog owners who are responsible and respect the rights of others. Get with the program and don't be part of the problem. I love dogs, but some owners need extended training.

I get the point of # 5 you listed but my dog only thinks he's human when he's had way to much budweiser:laugh:

[cmj1210]

Grandchildren driving carts, dogs pooping on my lawn, bicyclists gone wild, pedestrians walking on the cart path, speeding golf carts, drinking and driving carts, old, unfit automobile drivers, crazy lawn ornaments, Snowbirds, too much traffic, too much growth, stupid judges.
Why do 120,000 people,want to live here? I love TV...I must be some kind of nut.



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[Topspinmo]

To the extent that any responsible community is dog friendly....1)keep your dog off of others property(that includes the lawns)as that is the law and only proper if you have respect for others and some common sense. 2) pick up after your dog in the dog parks and common areas. 3)don't go walking on the golf course with your dog(or without)after hours. It is not permitted and even though you'll likely get away with it it is wrong. 4)not everyone wants your dog sniffing them. A 6foot lead is the law. Those leads that extend beyond that are not legal, but many lazy owners could care less so don't be surprised when someone gets upset with you. 5)a dog is part of your family not others so don't expect them to act like it's human. 6)riding with your dog on your lap while driving is stupid. You not only don't have the reflexes you had when younger, you're easily distracted...so cut it out.

A community that is dog friendly also has dog owners who are responsible and respect the rights of others. Get with the program and don't be part of the problem. I love dogs, but some owners need extended training.

Please reference you statement where leashes are outlawed. it they are against the law why are they for sale?


I have to raise the BS Flag and say another whinny post.


I'll didn't see it here and beings we live in three counties please state the law limit in the three counties.
Florida Dog Leash Laws - County by County :: Jacksonville, Florida Dog Bite Lawyer Wood, Atter & Wolf (https://www.woodatter.com/florida-dog-leash-laws-county-by-county.html)

You have say on your property, but common areas are not your property. Common areas were paid for by bonds which property owners paid for and pay for up keep by monthly amenities fees.

Only Championship golf course are private. Several resident courses have common paths running through and along side of them specially in the older districts.

You and I have No say so who or who can't be on property we don't own. We can bitch about it, but that's about it. Which this post seems to be about.

[blaZen]

Here we go!

[Topspinmo]

Fred: I share your views, and include those dog owners that walk with their dogs off their leash.

concerns such as expressed here along with inconsiderate drivers, traffic etc are a symptom of the bigger problem expansion. whether a person is more adaptable or less tolerate has to do with expectations. I can tell you my definition of paradise doesn't include overcrowding.

boy wonder if I am going to find that heaven is overcrowded, that would just be hell :D

I don't think it will, if there is? there's bunch that think there getting in, but wil be shown the down stairs exit way.

[billethkid]

Sounds/looks to me like fred has thrown out the bait, standing back and watching/listening to the scramble.

[Polar Bear]

Sounds/looks to me like fred has thrown out the bait...
Agree.

[Barefoot]

Grandchildren driving carts, dogs pooping on my lawn, bicyclists gone wild, pedestrians walking on the cart path, speeding golf carts, drinking and driving carts, old, unfit automobile drivers, crazy lawn ornaments, Snowbirds, too much traffic, too much growth, stupid judges.
Why do 120,000 people,want to live here? I love TV...I must be some kind of nut.
:024: :thumbup:

[Mleeja]

To the extent that any responsible community is dog friendly....1)keep your dog off of others property(that includes the lawns)as that is the law and only proper if you have respect for others and some common sense. 2) pick up after your dog in the dog parks and common areas. 3)don't go walking on the golf course with your dog(or without)after hours. It is not permitted and even though you'll likely get away with it it is wrong. 4)not everyone wants your dog sniffing them. A 6foot lead is the law. Those leads that extend beyond that are not legal, but many lazy owners could care less so don't be surprised when someone gets upset with you. 5)a dog is part of your family not others so don't expect them to act like it's human. 6)riding with your dog on your lap while driving is stupid. You not only don't have the reflexes you had when younger, you're easily distracted...so cut it out.

A community that is dog friendly also has dog owners who are responsible and respect the rights of others. Get with the program and don't be part of the problem. I love dogs, but some owners need extended training.

Your post contains a lot of common sense and courtesy, but I would like to see black letter law that all the things stated as "illegal" are actually illegal.

[fred53]

Exactly what is the purpose of this post?

You have just stated the very obvious facts.

Once again, why the post?

it wouldn't need to be posted if there weren't a lot of dog owners who don't do what you say as "the very obvious facts." Unfortunately there are dog owners who don't see it as you do....hence the reminder. Obviously it was not aimed at those who already understand this and need not reply.

[fred53]

Your post contains a lot of common sense and courtesy, but I would like to see black letter law that all the things stated as "illegal" are actually illegal.

and "google dog regulations in Sumter County and the Villages" as I will not be doing it for you.

[fred53]

Please reference you statement where leashes are outlawed. it they are against the law why are they for sale?


I have to raise the BS Flag and say another whinny post.


I'll didn't see it here and beings we live in three counties please state the law limit in the three counties.
Florida Dog Leash Laws - County by County :: Jacksonville, Florida Dog Bite Lawyer Wood, Atter & Wolf (https://www.woodatter.com/florida-dog-leash-laws-county-by-county.html)

You have say on your property, but common areas are not your property. Common areas were paid for by bonds which property owners paid for and pay for up keep by monthly amenities fees.

Only Championship golf course are private. Several resident courses have common paths running through and along side of them specially in the older districts.

You and I have No say so who or who can't be on property we don't own. We can bitch about it, but that's about it. Which this post seems to be about.

please don't comment. I did not say leashes were illegal. I said those leashes which extend over 6 feet were not legal since the law says a leash/lead must be only 6 feet long....hench the intelligent conclusion that those that allow the leash/lead to go over 6 feet are illegal...it's not rocket science.

[Mleeja]

please don't comment. I did not say leashes were illegal. I said those leashes which extend over 6 feet were not legal since the law says a leash/lead must be only 6 feet long....hench the intelligent conclusion that those that allow the leash/lead to go over 6 feet are illegal...it's not rocket science.

Then would not Petsmart, Petco, Walmart, etc in Sumter County who are selling extendable leashes, be selling illegal products?

[Mleeja]

and "google dog regulations in Sumter County and the Villages" as I will not be doing it for you.

Quite the contrary, if you are growing to throw this stuff out there, you better be in a position to back it up.

[rubicon]

Then would not Petsmart, Petco, Walmart, etc in Sumter County who are selling extendable leashes, be selling illegal products?

would you also suggest that because a car can exceed a speed limit dealers ought not be able to sell them?

I have no dog in this fight :) but it seems every thread devoted to pets seems to result in pet owners projecting umbrage on those who simply ask for courtesy and consideration.

Fred's OP is spot on. Too many dog owners decide a golf course is an outlet that allows them the freedom to ignore leavings., ignore leashes, etc come on Fred called out offenders and they didn't like it.

Personal Best Regards:

[cmj1210]

would you also suggest that because a car can exceed a speed limit dealers ought not be able to sell them?

I have no dog in this fight :) but it seems every thread devoted to pets seems to result in pet owners projecting umbrage on those who simply ask for courtesy and consideration.

Fred's OP is spot on. Too many dog owners decide a golf course is an outlet that allows them the freedom to ignore leavings., ignore leashes, etc come on Fred called out offenders and they didn't like it.

Personal Best Regards:

I am a respectful dog owner, I pick up after him and do not allow him to walk on to other peoples property. If I take him for a walk, I make sure he goes before we go on our merry way. Having said that, I totally agree with what Fred is saying. I own a non retractable leash so that I have control. The leashes that go way beyond the 6' are usually all over everyone/s lawns. As an example I have seen in my neighborhood a man walking 2 goldens on those leashes and the dogs were 1/2 way up the mans driveway on their lawn. People need to have respect for other peoples property. Many dogs bleach the grass and it is the homeowner that has to take care of it. A little respect & common sense goes a long way.

[skip0358]

When you walk your dog pick up their dropping and bring them home! Don't leave them on top of the storm drain in the plastig bag so when it rains it winds up in the pond. If you walk them at the mail station bring the poop home don't put it in the trash can at the Post Office as they do break when people push their unwanted mail in the can then it stinks like Sh##! If you can't follow the simple rules ten don' t get a dog period!

[ColdNoMore]

I'll bet a lot of those who let their dogs poop anywhere...also wear their ball caps at the dinner table.



:D

[aninjamom]

We have a couple of people in our neighborhood with extendable leashes, who let their dogs run up into people's yards - including ours, and pee all over the landscaping. They also leave little piles on our lawn. And no, not everybody wants your little precious sniffing their ankles while you are in a conversation 6 feet away, no matter how cute they are. So yes, thank you for this post, it was needed! And yes, we are dog owners who control and clean up after our dog.

[CFrance]

:024: :thumbup:
And a recent quote running around the internet these days: If you don't like where you live, move. You're not a tree.

TV is only going to get bigger--more people, more traffic, more golf cart paths, more dogs, more extendable leashes. No one's going to rein that in. You have to make a personal decision to work for change or move on.

[CFrance]

Quite the contrary, if you are growing to throw this stuff out there, you better be in a position to back it up.
Agree. The one making the questionable statements is the one responsible for backing it up.

[Topspinmo]

would you also suggest that because a car can exceed a speed limit dealers ought not be able to sell them?

I have no dog in this fight :) but it seems every thread devoted to pets seems to result in pet owners projecting umbrage on those who simply ask for courtesy and consideration.

Fred's OP is spot on. Too many dog owners decide a golf course is an outlet that allows them the freedom to ignore leavings., ignore leashes, etc come on Fred called out offenders and they didn't like it.

Personal Best Regards:

Pet hate much.

I don't have dog in fight either. Fred called pet owners names in his sneaky way. He has posted this subject several times. ALL groups have bad apples even you so called good golfers. You have your opinion of Fred and I have mine.

[RickeyD]

I like dogs better than people. But, keep your dog off my property or we will have words. I watch these dog owners with RETRACTABLE REELS allowing their dogs to come almost as close as the garage on my neighbor properties. I watch it as I eat breakfast. Three weeks ago one on these owners tried that on my property. I dashed out my front door in a NY second and read her the riot act. TRESPASSING IS TRESPASSING especially when the INTENT is to have your dog **** or **** on my lawn or landscape. She said " Sorry!" Only because you were caught sweetheart! I own a very large dog, I am a responsible owner. He doesn't **** or **** on private property. Fred is stating what we all should follow as COMMON SENSE. GEEEZ...How the hell were some of you people raised !

[Mleeja]

I like dogs better than people. But, keep your dog off my property or we will have words. I watch these dog owners with RETRACTABLE REELS allowing their dogs to come almost as close as the garage on my neighbor properties. I watch it as I eat breakfast. Three weeks ago one on these owners tried that on my property. I dashed out my front door in a NY second and read her the riot act. TRESPASSING IS TRESPASSING especially when the INTENT is to have your dog **** or **** on my lawn or landscape. She said " Sorry!" Only because you were caught sweetheart! I own a very large dog, I am a responsible owner. He doesn't **** or **** on private property. Fred is stating what we all should follow as COMMON SENSE. GEEEZ...How the hell were some of you people raised !

I own a large dog as well. When we go out we make sure she takes care of business before we leave. I am usually on a bike with the dog and she is on a fixed lead. I am not crazy about when some ankle biter on a retractable leash comes chasing us. I am not disagreeing with the OP's original message, I just question the delivery. I seriously doubt if retractable leashes are illegal in Sumter County. Trespassing is trespassing, but I would rather bail into someone's yard than be ran over by a crazed golf cart driver rushing to their tee time. Let's try using common sense and respect for our neighbors.

BTW, I guess I am in the minority in that if Fido wants to take a whiz in my yard, it is ok. Just be sure to pickup the other stuff.

[RickeyD]

"10 Reasons Not to Use a Retractable Leash

1. The length of retractable leashes, some of which can extend up to 26 feet, allows dogs to get far enough away from their humans that a situation can quickly turn dangerous. A dog on a retractable leash is often able to run into the middle of the street, for example, or make uninvited contact with other dogs or people.

2. In the above scenario, or one in which your pet is being approached by an aggressive dog, it is nearly impossible to get control of the situation if the need arises. It's much easier to regain control of – or protect -- a dog at the end of a six-foot standard flat leash than it is if he's 20 or so feet away at the end of what amounts to a thin string.

3. The thin cord of a retractable leash can break – especially when a powerful dog is on the other end of it. If a strong, good-sized dog takes off at full speed, the cord can snap. Not only can that put the dog and whatever he may be chasing in danger, but also the cord can snap back and injure the human at the other end.

4. If a dog walker gets tangled up in the cord of a retractable leash, or grabs it in an attempt to reel in their dog, it can result in burns, cuts, and even amputation. In addition, many people have been pulled right off their feet by a dog that reaches the end of the leash and keeps going. This can result in bruises, "road rash," broken bones, and worse.

5. Dogs have also received terrible injuries as a result of the sudden jerk on their neck that occurs when they run out the leash, including neck wounds, lacerated tracheas, and injuries to the spine.

6. Retractable leashes allow dogs more freedom to pull at the end of them, which can look like aggression to another dog who may decide to "fight back."

7. The handles of retractable leashes are bulky and can be easily pulled out of human hands, resulting in a runaway dog.

8. Along those same lines, many dogs – especially fearful ones – are terrorized by the sound of a dropped retractable leash handle and may take off running, which is dangerous enough. To make matters worse, the object of the poor dog's fear is then "chasing" her, and if the leash is retracting as she runs, the handle is gaining ground on her – she can't escape it. Even if this scenario ultimately ends without physical harm to the dog (or anyone else), it can create lingering fear in the dog not only of leashes, but also of being walked.

9. Retractable leashes, like most retractable devices, have a tendency to malfunction over time, either refusing to extend, refusing to retract, or unspooling at will.

10. Retractable leashes are an especially bad idea for dogs that haven't been trained to walk politely on a regular leash. By their very nature, retractables train dogs to pull while on leash, because they learn that pulling extends the lead. "

[Bjeanj]

please don't comment. I did not say leashes were illegal. I said those leashes which extend over 6 feet were not legal since the law says a leash/lead must be only 6 feet long....hench the intelligent conclusion that those that allow the leash/lead to go over 6 feet are illegal...it's not rocket science.

I call BS on the 6 feet max leash length: Municode Library (https://www.municode.com/library/FL/sumter_county/codes/code_of_ordinances?nodeId=COCO_CH4ANCO)

You must have confused the state park regulations regarding the leash length; you can find that information on page 15: http://www.swfwmd.state.fl.us/publications/files/rec_guide.pdf

P.S. you owe me 40 minutes of my life for this fact-checking.

[cmj1210]

Any reputable dog trainer & I have used several will tell you not to use a retractable leash.


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[Topspinmo]

I'll bet a lot of those who let their dogs poop anywhere...also wear their ball caps at the dinner table.



:D

Or drive foreign car.

[Mrs. Robinson]

I own a large dog as well. When we go out we make sure she takes care of business before we leave. I am usually on a bike with the dog and she is on a fixed lead. I am not crazy about when some ankle biter on a retractable leash comes chasing us. I am not disagreeing with the OP's original message, I just question the delivery. I seriously doubt if retractable leashes are illegal in Sumter County. Trespassing is trespassing, but I would rather bail into someone's yard than be ran over by a crazed golf cart driver rushing to their tee time. Let's try using common sense and respect for our neighbors.

BTW, I guess I am in the minority in that if Fido wants to take a whiz in my yard, it is ok. Just be sure to pickup the other stuff.

I also own a large dog -- two of them, as a matter-of-fact. If I am taking either of them for a walk, like your dog, they always "make" in our yard first. That being said, if a dog "goes" again, that is not a controllable situation and I always carry poop bags, just in case. I, too, find the OP's message to be on the edge of steamy.

When reading all the articles regarding dogs (which is usually negative, unfortunately), my mind wanders and I question why so many Villagers are so hostile about a dog even walking by on the street edge of their grass. Please note that I said "walking," and not doing anything else. So much for "America's Friendliest Home Town." Not!

I do not try to make enemies, but I will not walk my dogs on the scalding hot asphalt. TV in their infinite wisdom, does not have sidewalks in the majority of streets within TV. In addition, the streets are narrow and skimpy and provide no real room for walking, particularly with a dog. Consequently, dog owners have no choice but to walk their dog at the edge of every owner's property.

I'm not an attorney, but all houses have an easement at the front of their property; my guess is 10 feet, but I am not positive. I cannot foresee any permanent damage that is caused by a dog or anyone, walking across a person's grass. So what is the big deal? Why do some homeowners get all bent out of shape crying trespass, and God knows what else?

Residents need to be forgiving and not go ballistic over a dog or person walking on their grass. Yes -- everyone needs to get over it, let it go and get a hobby or do something constructive.
It isn't worth the hostility and anger about which I read here.
:doggie:

[Railcruiser]

Amen Mrs Robinson. I often wonder how many Villagers are out rolling on the edge of the grass. I also wonder wherevmany of them lived their lives before here. Maybe, very wealthy people who lived on their own island and didn't have to interact with the rest of the world?
Just to bring the point home about walking. The gentleman who posted here last week that held is dog while It breathed it's last breath on the corner of my street Was hit by a car while on a leash trying to respect those people that don't allow dogs to walk on the lawn .

[jebartle]

:popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popcorn::popc orn: Popcorn anyone???

[DARFAP]

Too much pettiness.

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[ColdNoMore]

I also own a large dog -- two of them, as a matter-of-fact. If I am taking either of them for a walk, like your dog, they always "make" in our yard first. That being said, if a dog "goes" again, that is not a controllable situation and I always carry poop bags, just in case. I, too, find the OP's message to be on the edge of steamy.

When reading all the articles regarding dogs (which is usually negative, unfortunately), my mind wanders and I question why so many Villagers are so hostile about a dog even walking by on the street edge of their grass. Please note that I said "walking," and not doing anything else. So much for "America's Friendliest Home Town." Not!

I do not try to make enemies, but I will not walk my dogs on the scalding hot asphalt. TV in their infinite wisdom, does not have sidewalks in the majority of streets within TV. In addition, the streets are narrow and skimpy and provide no real room for walking, particularly with a dog.

Consequently, dog owners have no choice but to walk their dog at the edge of every owner's property.

I'm not an attorney, but all houses have an easement at the front of their property; my guess is 10 feet, but I am not positive. I cannot foresee any permanent damage that is caused by a dog or anyone, walking across a person's grass. So what is the big deal? Why do some homeowners get all bent out of shape crying trespass, and God knows what else?

Residents need to be forgiving and not go ballistic over a dog or person walking on their grass. Yes -- everyone needs to get over it, let it go and get a hobby or do something constructive.
It isn't worth the hostility and anger about which I read here.
:doggie:

You may not be aware, but an 'easement' on someone's 'private' property...does not make it 'public' property. :oops:

And while I appreciate that you don't want your dogs walking on hot asphalt, that does not give you the right to trespass...and let them walk on other people's private property.

Since you could easily load them up and take them to a dog park, what you're really saying is that is an inconvenience so you choose to let your dogs trespass...so that you're not inconvenienced.

Your statement... "Consequently, dog owners have no choice but to walk their dog at the edge of every owner's property"...is absolutely false.

You have just chosen to let your dog trespass...because you find the alternative(s) to be inconvenient to you.

Instead of telling residents that THEY need to be more forgiving, the dog owners who think their little Fido should be able to do whatever they want...should think about being less selfish & self-centered? :ho: