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jane032657
04-11-2017, 05:52 PM
The Lifelong Learning College, disbanded late last year, will rise again under a new name.
District Manager Janet Tutt speaks to the VHA South on Monday evening

District Manager Janet Tutt speaks to the VHA South on Monday evening.

District Manager Janet Tutt made the announcement Monday evening at a VHA South Area meeting at the Rohan Recreation Center.

The Enrichment Academy will fall under the Recreation Department.

Village Center Community Development District supervisors are scheduled to discuss the plan at 2 p.m. Wednesday, April 12 at the District Office at Lake Sumter Landing.

The Enrichment Academy will focus on community education and enrichment. It will provide and operate fee-based extra-curriculum courses, and offer a variety of courses that will enhance and expand learning opportunities for participants.

The budget has been developed. Startup funds are coming out of the VCCDD General Fund, with the understanding that when the Enrichment Academy is up and running, those funds will be reimbursed back to the general fund.

An August expo will be held for course sign up, with core courses beginning in October. Core courses are defined by areas such as dancing, foreign languages, art, dance, technology, history and science. Recreation Centers throughout The Villages will be used for classes. The courses will not disrupt any activities at the Recreation Centers. Courses are geared to residents and anyone 30 years or older may register.

The Enrichment Academy welcomes those with a passion for teaching to complete and return an application for curriculum consideration. For Phase I, all instructors will need to meet the criteria of being a Villages resident. Applications will be accepted starting Spring 2017. All instructors will be paid on a per person rate, based on a percentage of the course fee.

This new program will provide and operate fee based extra-curriculum courses, and offer a variety of courses that will enhance and expand learning opportunities for students. Instructors will be paid by contract and will be based on a 60/40 split, with the District receiving 60 percent of the registration fee. It will complement the existing resident led lifestyle volunteer and recreation services offered in the recreation centers, and provide residents even more choices to fulfill their passions in learning.

The budget is set at $500,494 with revenue coming from the three counties which make up The Villages. This includes a payroll of $133,020; contractual services of $281,734; management fees of $35,953; professional fees of $49,670 and Health, Life and Disability of $45,167.

You can read more about The Enrichment Academy at this link: The Enrichment Academy

In regard to ADA compliance, Tutt said that liability falls back to the VCCDD. Once the website is launched, it will identify full compliance with ADA and all other considerations pertaining to accommodating participants.
The lettering has been removed from the former home of the Villages Lifelong Learning College.

The lettering has been removed from the former home of the Villages Lifelong Learning College.

The Lifelong Learning College was challenged by a group of Villagers with hearing impairment because interpreters were not being provided at courses offered. After attempts to work with the Lifelong Learning College and a dispute about providing accommodation that would allow deaf individuals to equally participate in the courses offered, the group believed there was no choice but to file a lawsuit, Louis Schwarz, one of the lawsuit participants, said. This lawsuit led to the closure of the Lifelong Learning College, which more than 18,000 Villages residents took part in.

jane032657
04-11-2017, 05:59 PM
You can read this in the online Villages Newspaper.

champion6
04-12-2017, 09:35 AM
Recreation Centers throughout The Villages will be used for classes. The courses will not disrupt any activities at the Recreation Centers.I hesitate to bash the redesigned program, but I find this statement to be impossible to understand. Scheduling of activities is already extremely difficult.

Villageswimmer
04-12-2017, 09:43 AM
I've already seen classes that used to be no charge (I.e., covered by your amenity fee) beginning to charge an extra fee. One example is the ballroom dance class Thursday at Seabreeze. Are these trial balloons to determine how they will be accepted by residents? IMHO, not a good precedent.

mulligan
04-12-2017, 09:45 AM
I hesitate to bash the redesigned program, but I find this statement to be impossible to understand. Scheduling of activities is already extremely difficult.

Maybe they'll schedule the classes after 9 during the summer months. All the riff raff will be up north.

redwitch
04-12-2017, 09:47 AM
And lawful residents under thirty won't be able to attend? Doesn't seem fair to me.

Wonder how much these new classes will cost. My gut feeling is they'll be at least triple what previous classes were.

As to not disrupting present activities, I can more or less buy this statement. A lot of the rec center room usage was for previous classes. It may be more difficult for new clubs to get a room, though.

Villageswimmer
04-12-2017, 09:53 AM
I hesitate to bash the redesigned program, but I find this statement to be impossible to understand. Scheduling of activities is already extremely difficult.


Which do you think will have priority in scheduling--the classes you pay extra for (over and above your amenity fee) or the ones that provide no ADDITIONAL cashflow? Hmmmm...
This is a slippery slope IMHO.

Villageswimmer
04-12-2017, 03:52 PM
Can anyone who attended today's meeting please report on the details? I am concerned that volunteer-led resident lifestyle programs will find themselves in competition with "Enrichment " programs for time/space.

Bogie Shooter
04-12-2017, 05:35 PM
For awhile there will be winners & losers. New process will have growing pains, just as the LLLC did. Worrying probably won't help.

Madelaine Amee
04-12-2017, 05:40 PM
For awhile there will be winners & losers. New process will have growing pains, just as the LLLC did. Worrying probably won't help.

:agree: Let's wait and see what happens before we get our knickers in a twist. I am just very glad that things have moved this quickly.

EPutnam1863
04-13-2017, 12:11 PM
For awhile there will be winners & losers. New process will have growing pains, just as the LLLC did. Worrying probably won't help.

One of my husband's favorite sayings is "Why worry? If it does happen, you will have worried twice. If it does not happen, then you will have worried for nothing."

graciegirl
04-13-2017, 12:17 PM
One of my husband's favorite sayings is "Why worry? If it does happen, you will have worried twice. If it does not happen, then you will have worried for nothing."

You were very interested in the lawsuit, if I remember correctly. You are deaf, if I remember correctly. Do you think there will be another suit filed asking for interpreters against this new attempt to have some further education for interested villagers?

EPutnam1863
04-13-2017, 12:51 PM
You were very interested in the lawsuit, if I remember correctly. You are deaf, if I remember correctly. Do you think there will be another suit filed asking for interpreters against this new attempt to have some further education for interested villagers?

This trial is still ongoing, and one of the things the Plaintiffs are asking is that the new program provides interpreting services - in fact, they are asking that this becomes permanent for any event, any program, etc. so they won't have to re-litigate.

This is all I know for now. Of course there are other issues that are being addressed.

graciegirl
04-13-2017, 01:45 PM
This trial is still ongoing, and one of the things the Plaintiffs are asking that the new program provides interpreting services - in fact, they are asking that this becomes permanent for any event, any program, etc. so they won't have to re-litigate.

This is all I know for now. Of course there are other issues that are being addressed.

I personally, think that isn't reasonable or fair. Or right. But that is my opinion. A lot of things asked for by parents with children who have cognitive delays aren't right or fair either. In my opinion. Sometimes life isn't fair or right and we can't fix everything. Or expect everything to be fixed at another's expense. Sometimes the expense is so great as to take money from other programs that benefit more people. It is very hard to judge what is fair and right. I am the mother of a child with Williams Syndrome who is now a wonderful woman.

I think the suit that you speak of went to far. I didn't really see an attempt to compromise. That is only my opinion.

EPutnam1863
04-13-2017, 03:06 PM
I personally, think that isn't reasonable or fair. Or right. But that is my opinion. A lot of things asked for by parents with children who have cognitive delays aren't right or fair either. In my opinion. Sometimes life isn't fair or right and we can't fix everything. Or expect everything to be fixed at another's expense. Sometimes the expense is so great as to take money from other programs that benefit more people. It is very hard to judge what is fair and right. I am the mother of a child with Williams Syndrome who is now a wonderful woman.

I think the suit that you speak of went to far. I didn't really see an attempt to compromise. That is only my opinion.

You're right, I don't see either an attempt to compromise which dismays me. Here in our hometown I have chosen to go without interpreting services because I prefer that the money goes to fund social programs for needy people - esp children who are our future.

Instead if I need or want to be "enriched," I use the computer or the library. Besides I prefer the idea of using my computer in my nightie and with a cup of coffee or a glass of wine with crackers and cheese.

However if the others want interpreting services because it is their legal right to have them, there is not much we can do about it. We cannot legislate morality as you said in one of your postings.

The ADA needs to be overhauled or clarified further.

graciegirl
04-13-2017, 03:49 PM
You're right, I don't see either an attempt to compromise which dismays me. Here in our hometown I have chosen to go without interpreting services because I prefer that the money goes to fund social programs for needy people - esp children who are our future.

Instead if I need to be "enriched," I use the computer or the library. Besides I do like the idea of using my computer in my nightie and with a cup of coffee or a glass of wine with crackers and cheese.

However if the others want interpreting services because it is their legal right to have them, there is not much we can do about it. We cannot legislate morality as you said in one of your postings.

The ADA needs to be overhauled or clarified further.

You are a good and decent person and I apologize for reading you wrong.

JoMar
04-13-2017, 07:03 PM
Based on Janet Tutts comments, there will be plenty of lawyers making sure whatever they do will be ADA compliant....and I suspect that some way that will come out of our pockets.

EPutnam1863
04-14-2017, 10:46 AM
Based on Janet Tutts comments, there will be plenty of lawyers making sure whatever they do will be ADA compliant....and I suspect that some way that will come out of our pockets.

Yes, I think so too. As for being ADA compliant, there is a way to get around ADA regulations and still be in compliance.

autumnspring
04-14-2017, 12:16 PM
And lawful residents under thirty won't be able to attend? Doesn't seem fair to me.

Wonder how much these new classes will cost. My gut feeling is they'll be at least triple what previous classes were.

As to not disrupting present activities, I can more or less buy this statement. A lot of the rec center room usage was for previous classes. It may be more difficult for new clubs to get a room, though.

My first year of college at the ripe old age of 19 the school cafeteria welcomed people from the state retirement facility. Unfortunately, not many of they came. I did befriend a brilliant guy in his 80's and I learned far more from him then from too many of the professors.

I also took some night courses where ???? about half the class were vets and/or working people. Again, it was a great leaning experience.

Perhaps, whomever came up with that 30+ would find a note from their parents OK.

autumnspring
04-14-2017, 12:33 PM
Based on Janet Tutts comments, there will be plenty of lawyers making sure whatever they do will be ADA compliant....and I suspect that some way that will come out of our pockets.

I for one am sick and tired of our move to progressive liberalism.
For the people who can't hear I do have sympathy BUT, your hearing issues did not just start when you signed up for classes. YOU HAVE A SOLUTION THAT YOU USE EVERYWHERE ELSE.

I expect, what happened is that people WITHOUT THINKING, signed up for a class action suit. Once the case got started and once they realized that realized rather than a HUGE PAYDAY for the atty that started this THEY WOULD, THEY DID, DESTROY THIS FOR THE OTHERS and they could not stop the case once it was started.

EPutnam1863
04-21-2017, 05:39 PM
As of today (April 21, 2017), the Judge ordered both parties in for a settlement conference to resolve the case. He will be scheduling the conference.

EPutnam1863
04-25-2017, 02:50 PM
Today (April 25, 2017) the Judge scheduled a telephonic settlement conference with counsels for both parties on May 3rd at 10:30 am.

EPutnam1863
05-03-2017, 05:24 PM
As of today (May 3, 2017) the Judge is continuing the telephonic settlement conference by conferring with each side individually.

Madelaine Amee
05-04-2017, 08:43 AM
As of today (May 3, 2017) the Judge is continuing the telephonic settlement conference by conferring with each side individually.

Thank you for the time you are putting into this matter so that the rest of us can learn of the settlement litigation. I for one appreciate what you are doing. I have a husband who is hearing impaired and would never ask for special treatment, and no one ever knows he has a hearing problem!

OhioBuckeye
05-08-2017, 10:36 AM
You know I don't know why they let a small group of people (hearing impaired) protest the Lifelong Learning Center in the first place & got that shut down. This just sounds like the exact same thing only changing the name of it. Don't know why TV don't grandfather these clubs & other things in we have & to me they wouldn't be having these issues of trying to think how they can bring it back. Sounds like with all of these dollar figures in the article that someone is going to have to pay for something that we already had. Well time will tell & like they always say, "If it's sounds to good to be true, it probably is".

EPutnam1863
05-28-2017, 06:50 PM
As of today (April 21, 2017), the Judge ordered both parties in for a settlement conference to resolve the case. He will be scheduling the conference.

Update (May 28, 2017): The hearing for the settlement conference is scheduled for June 12, 2017 at 9:00 am. Counsel are to bring their clients this time.

Barefoot
05-28-2017, 10:51 PM
One of my husband's favorite sayings is "Why worry? If it does happen, you will have worried twice. If it does not happen, then you will have worried for nothing."

I really like this saying.

Update (May 28, 2017): The hearing for the settlement conference is scheduled for June 12, 2017 at 9:00 am. Counsel are to bring their clients this time.

Thanks EPutnam for this information.