Arkansas rushes to execute seven prisoners.

[Taltarzac725]

Arkansas rushes to execute 7 inmates before lethal drug expires - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arkansas-rushes-to-execute-seven-inmates-before-lethal-drug-expires/)

They could at least get the right drugs for this.

[Edjkoz]

I'm sure they made sure their victim should were comfortable before they killed them. Sorry, I have no compassion for animals like this

[Taltarzac725]

I'm sure they made sure their victim should were comfortable before they killed them. Sorry, I have no compassion for animals like this

We should as a society show a little more compassion to everyone even these Death Row people.

Each victim is a little different from another. Or, I really mean the families of the victims. I certainly believe that the victims should have a great deal of impact on the punishment of these men and women but that need not be for barbaric methods of execution as sometimes happens with the drug that the State of Arkansas is using up through the end of the month of April 2017.

[EPutnam1863]

I'm sure they made sure their victim should were comfortable before they killed them. Sorry, I have no compassion for animals like this

Amen.

[leftyf]

I just don't understand why they can't use the same drugs the Veterinarians use. My dog showed no pain when I had to put him to sleep.

[Taltarzac725]

I just don't understand why they can't use the same drugs the Veterinarians use. My dog showed no pain when I had to put him to sleep.

Animal Euthanasia and Capital Punishment: Some Uncomfortable Comparisons | Psychology Today (https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/all-dogs-go-heaven/201112/animal-euthanasia-and-capital-punishment-some-uncomfortable)

That's an interesting question.

[Topspinmo]

Arkansas rushes to execute 7 inmates before lethal drug expires - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arkansas-rushes-to-execute-seven-inmates-before-lethal-drug-expires/)

They could at least get the right drugs for this.


Nobody in the last 30 plus years has been rushed to execution, CBS spin. IMO The laws are written by lawyer's/politicans so they get to get paid for years and years "lawyer's welfare". I've got a lot more on this subject, but will reframe my temptations.

[karostay]

Don't put off till tomorrow what you can do today

[RickeyD]

State sanctioned execution is murder regardless the transgression. Morally indefensible by western standards and sinful by Christian standards. No different than abortion or an unjustified war.

[Topspinmo]

State sanctioned execution is murder regardless the transgression. Morally indefensible by western standards and sinful by Christian standards. No different than abortion or an unjustified war.

Your opinion not mine. Please put IMO in front of your opinionated posts.

[RickeyD]

Your opinion not mine. Please put IMO in front of your opinionated posts.

Ok, I'll do that next time.

[manaboutown]

Good riddance to bad trash!

[John_W]

State sanctioned execution is murder regardless the transgression...

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2341645.1440889065!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/home-invasion.jpg

On July 22, 2007, as repeated blows from a Louisville Slugger rained down on his head, Dr. William Petit awoke in a house of horrors — his own.

His wife and their two daughters were right upstairs in the Connecticut house, and things would only get worse.

Two lowlife thugs held the Petits hostage for seven terrifying hours. The doctor’s wife was raped, his youngest daughter sexually assaulted, and their house set afire.

Only Petit escaped with his life.

It was close to 10 a.m. on a rainy summer morning when Petit finally escaped and rolled, with his ankles still bound, into a neighbor’s driveway. He banged on the garage door.

Dave Simcik looked down on the bloody, beaten man at his feet, but didn’t recognize Petit. Soon enough, the cops were on top of the doctor with their guns drawn.

“The girls!” Petit howled. “The girls are in the house!”

Petit had fallen asleep on the sunroom couch the previous night. His wife, Jennifer Hawke-Petit, had multiple sclerosis and usually went to bed early. Petit, to avoid disturbing her, would often sleep on the sofa.

The baseball bat attack roused the doctor from his slumber sometime between 2 a.m. and 3 a.m. Blood was pouring over his eyes — Petit was on a blood thinner for a heart condition — but he noticed one of his two assailants was carrying what looked like a 9-mm. handgun.

The pair bound his ankles and wrists with plastic ties pulled so tight they cut into his flesh, all the while demanding to know where the safe was.

So you're saying after their day in court, and the many, many appeals to follow. The execution of these two thugs is the same as what they did to this family? I don't think so, your definition of murder is much different than mine. If you had no religion, would you still think the same? Almost every war in this world, was started in one form or another because of religion.

[Taltarzac725]

Google it.

[RickeyD]

http://assets.nydailynews.com/polopoly_fs/1.2341645.1440889065!/img/httpImage/image.jpg_gen/derivatives/article_1200/home-invasion.jpg



On July 22, 2007, as repeated blows from a Louisville Slugger rained down on his head, Dr. William Petit awoke in a house of horrors — his own.



His wife and their two daughters were right upstairs in the Connecticut house, and things would only get worse.



Two lowlife thugs held the Petits hostage for seven terrifying hours. The doctor’s wife was raped, his youngest daughter sexually assaulted, and their house set afire.



Only Petit escaped with his life.



It was close to 10 a.m. on a rainy summer morning when Petit finally escaped and rolled, with his ankles still bound, into a neighbor’s driveway. He banged on the garage door.



Dave Simcik looked down on the bloody, beaten man at his feet, but didn’t recognize Petit. Soon enough, the cops were on top of the doctor with their guns drawn.



“The girls!” Petit howled. “The girls are in the house!”



Petit had fallen asleep on the sunroom couch the previous night. His wife, Jennifer Hawke-Petit, had multiple sclerosis and usually went to bed early. Petit, to avoid disturbing her, would often sleep on the sofa.



The baseball bat attack roused the doctor from his slumber sometime between 2 a.m. and 3 a.m. Blood was pouring over his eyes — Petit was on a blood thinner for a heart condition — but he noticed one of his two assailants was carrying what looked like a 9-mm. handgun.



The pair bound his ankles and wrists with plastic ties pulled so tight they cut into his flesh, all the while demanding to know where the safe was.



So you're saying after their day in court, and the many, many appeals to follow. The execution of these two thugs is the same as what they did to this family? I don't think so, your definition of murder is much different than mine. If you had no religion, would you still think the same? Almost every war in this world, was started in one form or another because of religion.



It's human nature wanting to avenge a heinous crime using capital punishment as a tool for the state. I cannot imagine the pain and suffering this family went through. But I do know this. Institutionized capital murder will not bring the victims back nor will it alleviate the nightmares and daily horrors that the survivors surely experience day after day. So tell me, what will state sanctioned executions actually accomplish? It has been proven that in no way does it PREVENT crimes like this from occurring by other perpetrators nor does it allow our society to progress to a higher level.

[photo1902]

I'm sure they made sure their victim should were comfortable before they killed them. Sorry, I have no compassion for animals like this

:BigApplause:

[rubicon]

Capital punishment in my view is a matter best handled by those who would be most objective.

There is a difference between emotional empathy vis a vis cognitive empathy the latter preference for such decisions.

Also capital crimes or more to the point the circumstance surrounding them deserve individual consideration.

While victims families should have input initially they should not have lifetime access because in my view it negates all that a person does toward rehabilitation. Not all people entering prison are career criminals many have committed one crime, perhaps out of passion/

Yes, some deserve the death penalty and it should be carried out in a reasonable period of time and as humane a manner as possible

[Taltarzac725]

Capital punishment in my view is a matter best handled by those who would be most objective.

There is a difference between emotional empathy vis a vis cognitive empathy the latter preference for such decisions.

Also capital crimes or more to the point the circumstance surrounding them deserve individual consideration.

While victims families should have input initially they should not have lifetime access because in my view it negates all that a person does toward rehabilitation. Not all people entering prison are career criminals many have committed one crime, perhaps out of passion/

Yes, some deserve the death penalty and it should be carried out in a reasonable period of time and as humane a manner as possible

I do not believe rehabilitation really applies of these people are on death row.

I changed the name of the first man convicted of raping his wife in MN when I was a Student Attorney. The judge brought me into her office and chewed me out for helping this man. My duty though was to anyone who I got assigned as a client by the managing Lawyers at Legal Assistance to MN Prisoners. The ex-wife by law would have received immediate notice of this man's name change as well. Even some of the people in the legal community have the utmost contempt for some of those convicted of crimes and with cases like Casey Anthony for those accused as well. I really did not like this convicted rapist either but I did what the law required for him. I hope this is not violating any lawyer-client privilege as I am not sharing anything that would not be public record. My name would be on these court papers and the man did have his name changed. And no I do not actually remember what it was. Just how peeved the Judge and her workers were that I was doing this for him.

[John_W]

Our TV is on Directv channel 285 almost all the time, that's the ID channel, Investigation Discovery. Before that we were regular viewers of Courtv for a dozen years, especially with our homebased business it played all day in our house.

In all these years of watching I can't even begin to estimate the number of times defendants have taken a plea bargain of life in prison to avoid the death penalty. Can you imagine if we didn't have this bargaining chip how many criminals would be back on the streets. How much our courts would be clogged with hundreds of more trials every year, capital trial which take up much more manpower and money.

As as far the those who don't like the death penalty and think it's barbaric. I only wish you and those like you thought as much about the victims as you do about the criminals. The loss forever of the loved ones and the pain and suffering by their family and friends by this slime doesn't deserve a second of empathy.

[keithwand]

Only 7?

[Taltarzac725]

Our TV is on Directv channel 285 almost all the time, that's the ID channel, Investigation Discovery. Before that we were regular viewers of Courtv for a dozen years, especially with our homebased business it played all day in our house.

In all these years of watching I can't even begin to estimate the number of times defendants have taken a plea bargain of life in prison to avoid the death penalty. Can you imagine if we didn't have this bargaining chip how many criminals would be back on the streets. How much our courts would be clogged with hundreds of more trials every year, capital trial which take up much more manpower and money.

As as far the those who don't like the death penalty and think it's barbaric. I only wish you and those like you thought as much about the victims as you do about the criminals. The loss forever of the loved ones and the pain and suffering by their family and friends by this slime doesn't deserve a second of empathy.

I have been fighting for survivors/victims of crimes for 26 years trying to get them access to more practical materials in libraries so that they can help themselves play the legal game. This is one though based on being logical, practical, and patient.

And no two victims/survivors I have communicated with since February 25, 1976 are the same. These people are all quite different in sensitivity, religion, education, political views, etc.

I try to help the victims/survivors speak for themselves. And I have talked to women and men who have lost sons, daughters, girlfriends, boyfriends, spouses, mothers, fathers, friends, etc.

[MikeV]

It's human nature wanting to avenge a heinous crime using capital punishment as a tool for the state. I cannot imagine the pain and suffering this family went through. But I do know this. Institutionized capital murder will not bring the victims back nor will it alleviate the nightmares and daily horrors that the survivors surely experience day after day. So tell me, what will state sanctioned executions actually accomplish? It has been proven that in no way does it PREVENT crimes like this from occurring by other perpetrators nor does it allow our society to progress to a higher level.



And if it were your family how would you feel?


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[rubicon]

I do not believe rehabilitation really applies of these people are on death row.

I changed the name of the first man convicted of raping his wife in MN when I was a Student Attorney. The judge brought me into her office and chewed me out for helping this man. My duty though was to anyone who I got assigned as a client by the managing Lawyers at Legal Assistance to MN Prisoners. The ex-wife by law would have received immediate notice of this man's name change as well. Even some of the people in the legal community have the utmost contempt for some of those convicted of crimes and with cases like Casey Anthony for those accused as well. I really did not like this convicted rapist either but I did what the law required for him. I hope this is not violating any lawyer-client privilege as I am not sharing anything that would not be public record. My name would be on these court papers and the man did have his name changed. And no I do not actually remember what it was. Just how peeved the Judge and her workers were that I was doing this for him.

I wasn't speaking of people already sentence to death and on death row';albeit one could make an argument even there given the number of cases found to be a result of poor investigation, etc.

Killing another person is unthinkable. However the circumstances surrounding each death deserves individual consideration. compare a person who rapes a child then murders her to an habitual drunk who kills a person because of a DUI. What about a guy in a fight that has the bad luck to have hit a guy who strikes hi head on....and dies

One act because of an emotional outburst or under the influence with no previous criminal history may merit an opportunity for attonement rehabilitation.

to suggest that murder is murder and all murders deserve the same punishment is too absolute.

While it is another argument one needs to ask what should the purpose for imprisonment? punishment only, confinement only rehabilitation

Again there re capital crimes in my view given the circumstances surround them that capital punishment should be administered

[Taltarzac725]

And if it were your family how would you feel?


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Depends on whom it was really. Some of my family I have not seen in fifty years; others I see daily. Some of my friends would mean a lot more to me than some family members if I lost them to some murderer, AIDS, cancer, suicide, alcohol abuse, a car wreck, etc.

I watched the Polly Klaas case when we lived near by and wondered for instance just how good a relationship some of the people capitalizing on that case had with Polly. And I do not mean Winona Ryder who seemed to really want to help the community. I mean someone cashing in on the tragedy for all it was worth. Some who could have cared less about victims before this happened but who suddenly is on every channel.

[Taltarzac725]

I wasn't speaking of people already sentence to death and on death row';albeit one could make an argument even there given the number of cases found to be a result of poor investigation, etc.

Killing another person is unthinkable. However the circumstances surrounding each death deserves individual consideration. compare a person who rapes a child then murders her to an habitual drunk who kills a person because of a DUI. What about a guy in a fight that has the bad luck to have hit a guy who strikes hi head on....and dies

One act because of an emotional outburst or under the influence with no previous criminal history may merit an opportunity for attonement rehabilitation.

to suggest that murder is murder and all murders deserve the same punishment is too absolute.

While it is another argument one needs to ask what should the purpose for imprisonment? punishment only, confinement only rehabilitation

Again there re capital crimes in my view given the circumstances surround them that capital punishment should be administered

That's very true. Some murderers are just plain evil like Ted Bundy, Reno's Thomas Lee Bean, Charles Manson and his group, and others. Then there are the clearly mentally ill people even though I suspect some of these people and their lawyers play the system. Then there are cases where they simply put the wrong person in prison usually because a clique is in power that have little or no checks-and-balances on them. A judge and a group of lawyers in all that takes if these are arrogant sociopaths.

[RickeyD]

And if it were your family how would you feel?


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My feelings are not relevant. State ordered execution is legal premeditated murder. Innocent people have been released from death row when new evidence has been presented. Innocent people have been released from prison when new evidence has been presented. Since the 70's many possibly innocent people have been executed. Typically new evidence is submitted but not looked at after the execution because the defendant is dead.

[John_W]

My feelings are not relevant. State ordered execution is legal premeditated murder...

Your interpretation of state sanctioned murder is no different than if I were a soldier in Iraq and I shot and killed a Taliban fighter. He never did anything to me, I didn't even know the man. That must be state sanctioned murder. The Army said it's alright if I kill that person because he wants to kill all Americans and especially all Christians.

Your using all your relevant feelings to make that decision, my feelings are we live in a civilized society. As adults we know if you kill another human being in the State of Florida you're subject to the death penalty. So when you killed that person, you have assumed that if you 'do the crime, you'll do the time'.

I'm glad we have enough grown men and women in our society who don't feel the way you do. If not, we would be in a sorry state to fill our police and military ranks. We have a no-nonsense President, and were fighting terrorist at home and abroad. Anyone who commits a murder on the streets of any American city is no different than a terrorist.

What's the saying, 5% of the population do 95% of the crime. Repeat Offenders is one problem capital punishment can fix.

[Taltarzac725]

My feelings are not relevant. State ordered execution is legal premeditated murder. Innocent people have been released from death row when new evidence has been presented. Innocent people have been released from prison when new evidence has been presented. Since the 70's many possibly innocent people have been executed. Typically new evidence is submitted but not looked at after the execution because the defendant is dead.

This seems to vary a lot state-to-state. Some states have a history of prejudice against certain people being quite high within their legal system and in their communities as well. Others do not have such serious problems. Arkansas probably is not high on the list of states that have had few people found innocent after they have been executed or who are on Death Row.

And if you are member of a victim's family or friends you really want the state to get the right person otherwise the real killer is still out there or could be. Often they are in prison for something else.

[BobnBev]

Depends on whom it was really. Some of my family I have not seen in fifty years; others I see daily. Some of my friends would mean a lot more to me than some family members if I lost them to some murderer, AIDS, cancer, suicide, alcohol abuse, a car wreck, etc.

I watched the Polly Klaas case when we lived near by and wondered for instance just how good a relationship some of the people capitalizing on that case had with Polly. And I do not mean Winona Ryder who seemed to really want to help the community. I mean someone cashing in on the tragedy for all it was worth. Some who could have cared less about victims before this happened but who suddenly is on every channel.

Rev Al Sharpton comes to mind.

[Taltarzac725]

Rev Al Sharpton comes to mind.

Not at all.

[ColdNoMore]

My feelings are not relevant. State ordered execution is legal premeditated murder. Innocent people have been released from death row when new evidence has been presented. Innocent people have been released from prison when new evidence has been presented. Since the 70's many possibly innocent people have been executed. Typically new evidence is submitted but not looked at after the execution because the defendant is dead.

Exactly.

I wish those who are so gung-ho about capital punishment, would just drop the pretense that is about 'justice'...when it is actually simply 'revenge.'

It really boils down to those of us who believe even one innocent person executed is one too many...and others who think it's just a 'cost of doing business.'

The fact that life without a chance of parole serves the same purpose and the fact that due to the legal appeals process for capital cases, executing them actually costs more than life without...proves that it is about revenge. :shrug:


Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center (https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty)

A new study by Lewis & Clark Law School and Seattle University that examined the costs of hundreds of aggravated murder and murder cases in Oregon has concluded that "maintaining the death penalty incurs a significant financial burden on Oregon taxpayers."

The researchers found that the average trial and incarceration costs of an Oregon murder case that results in a death penalty are almost double those in a murder case that results in a sentence of life imprisonment or a term of years.

[RickeyD]

Exactly.



I wish those who are so gung-ho about capital punishment, would just drop the pretense that is about 'justice'...when it is actually simply 'revenge.'



It really boils down to those of us who believe even one innocent person executed is one too many...and others who think it's just a 'cost of doing business.'



The fact that life without a chance of parole serves the same purpose and the fact that due to the legal appeals process for capital cases, executing them actually costs more than life without...proves that it is about revenge. :shrug:





Costs of the Death Penalty | Death Penalty Information Center (https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/costs-death-penalty)



And there are those who long for the good ole' days of the electric chair and gas chamber. I couldn't stomach watching a person die this way, no matter what the offense was. And there are those who long for the day they could witness such an event just to watch what they hate die a writhing painful prolonged death. Afterwards a few drinks with their buddies so they can rehash more hate towards those who are different then their own tribe. Chemical injection was supposed to be a more civilized way to execute. Seems they can't get that right either. More drinks for the boys ! Another round for our tribe ! Drink to what made our country great ! Better him then me MFer !

[bbbbbb]

Hi, here is a thought on that. It seems there is repeated discussions and anomalies associated with the drugs used during an execution, it is too weak or too strong or not available or not approved, who knows?
The Mormons have it right on this one. About 1979 (+/-) they did Gary Gilmore in with a firing squad. The Sheriff in Salt Lake City put the word out that he wanted volunteers for that event. Well, on the day of the event, there was a line of volunteers in Salt Lake about a block long, all with their .30 cal rifles and ammo, ready to go. It was over in about 20 minutes, no problems, no lack of supplies to do the job. Painless, since the bullets are moving faster than the speed of sound Gary did not hear a thing. Sure there are the few who will take a shot at this, criticizing. Well, it is a fact, so I prefer not to hear from the opposition and will not respond.
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[plrbr1120]

One of the comments is to show compassion for these killers. Ok....here is my compassion....now put them 6 feet under.

[RickeyD]

Hi, here is a thought on that. It seems there is repeated discussions and anomalies associated with the drugs used during an execution, it is too weak or too strong or not available or not approved, who knows?
The Mormons have it right on this one. About 1979 (+/-) they did Gary Gilmore in with a firing squad. The Sheriff in Salt Lake City put the word out that he wanted volunteers for that event. Well, on the day of the event, there was a line of volunteers in Salt Lake about a block long, all with their .30 cal rifles and ammo, ready to go. It was over in about 20 minutes, no problems, no lack of supplies to do the job. Painless, since the bullets are moving faster than the speed of sound Gary did not hear a thing. Sure there are the few who will take a shot at this, criticizing. Well, it is a fact, so I prefer not to hear from the opposition and will not respond.
bbbbbb



Mormons ? Cultists.

[Taltarzac725]

Hi, here is a thought on that. It seems there is repeated discussions and anomalies associated with the drugs used during an execution, it is too weak or too strong or not available or not approved, who knows?
The Mormons have it right on this one. About 1979 (+/-) they did Gary Gilmore in with a firing squad. The Sheriff in Salt Lake City put the word out that he wanted volunteers for that event. Well, on the day of the event, there was a line of volunteers in Salt Lake about a block long, all with their .30 cal rifles and ammo, ready to go. It was over in about 20 minutes, no problems, no lack of supplies to do the job. Painless, since the bullets are moving faster than the speed of sound Gary did not hear a thing. Sure there are the few who will take a shot at this, criticizing. Well, it is a fact, so I prefer not to hear from the opposition and will not respond.
bbbbbb

Execution by firing squad - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_by_firing_squad)

It is probably more humane than lethal injection in Arkansas right now.

[RickeyD]

Execution by firing squad - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_by_firing_squad)



It is probably more humane than lethal injection in Arkansas right now.



Try it, let us know. Really ?

[Taltarzac725]

Try it, let us know. Really ?

Makes no sense?

Topic started by me is Arkansas executions of seven people in next two weeks or so. Arkansas rushes to execute 7 inmates before lethal drug expires - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/arkansas-rushes-to-execute-seven-inmates-before-lethal-drug-expires/)

Firing squads are not legal in Arkansas as a method of execution as far as I know. Arkansas lawmaker will propose execution by firing squad - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/26/arkansas-lawmaker-plans-to-file-firing-squad-legis/)

Methods of Execution | Death Penalty Information Center (https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/methods-execution?scid=8&did=245#state)

[RickeyD]

Makes no sense?

Topic started by me is Arkansas executions of seven people in next two weeks or so.

Firing squads are not legal in Arkansas as a method of execution as far as I know. Arkansas lawmaker will propose execution by firing squad - Washington Times (http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2015/feb/26/arkansas-lawmaker-plans-to-file-firing-squad-legis/)

Methods of Execution | Death Penalty Information Center (https://deathpenaltyinfo.org/methods-execution?scid=8&did=245#state)



Your post, run with it. I'm out.

[rubicon]

Execution by firing squad - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Execution_by_firing_squad)

It is probably more humane than lethal injection in Arkansas right now.

I read once that the least painful manner of capital punishment was the guillotine. but the thought of it.

I also believe there is no comparing killing in a civil society to that of killing because of a war because if one views killing as killing to be wrong then we ought to include the topics of abortion and physician assisted suicide

[Taltarzac725]

I read once that the least painful manner of capital punishment was the guillotine. but the thought of it.

I also believe there is no comparing killing in a civil society to that of killing because of a war because if one views killing as killing to be wrong then we ought to include the topics of abortion and physician assisted suicide

8 Things You May Not Know About the Guillotine - History Lists (http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-guillotine)

It has an interesting history.

I watched a DVD about an English hangman who executed many of the Nazis who were sentenced to die by the Nuremberg judges. He had been very good at calculating just the right drops of the noose. One big problem though was that one of the people he executed turned out to be innocent. Pierrepoint (film - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierrepoint_(film))) Timothy Evans - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Evans)

These all or nothing scenarios seem impractical to me though. They should try to do the best with what they have whether they have the death penalty in that state or not. Victim/survivors have to accept whatever is the law in that State and hope that the State got the right person. More eyes and ears looking for justice is a good thing IMHO. And logical brains not those filled with vengeance. I know how hard that is though when a dearly beloved is the victim from my own experiences with the Mitchells and their many students and how messed up that investigation became mostly because of the community's need for closure.

[Chi-Town]

Judge halts Arkansas plan to execute inmates by end of month: Judge halts Arkansas plan to execute inmates by end of month (https://apnews.com/c0f1595e558348a0aac11e6ce701fa14)





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[Taltarzac725]

Judge halts Arkansas plan to execute inmates by end of month: Judge halts Arkansas plan to execute inmates by end of month (https://apnews.com/c0f1595e558348a0aac11e6ce701fa14)





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That's a good move. I hoped some Judge would do that.

I do remember the victim's family in one of these cases complaining that the convict should not be able to live one more day. She did get to voice her anger in what looked like a legal setting. That should at least help her a little bit.

[leftyf]

Then the same judge should also halt all abortions. One should not be allowed without the other.

[Taltarzac725]

Court blocks Arkansas from using lethal injection drug - CNN.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/04/14/us/arkansas-execution-blocked/index.html)

Here is another link.

[MDLNB]

I'm sure they made sure their victim should were comfortable before they killed them. Sorry, I have no compassion for animals like this

:agree:

[MDLNB]

Then the same judge should also halt all abortions. One should not be allowed without the other.

:agree:

[MDLNB]

8 Things You May Not Know About the Guillotine - History Lists (http://www.history.com/news/history-lists/8-things-you-may-not-know-about-the-guillotine)

It has an interesting history.

I watched a DVD about an English hangman who executed many of the Nazis who were sentenced to die by the Nuremberg judges. He had been very good at calculating just the right drops of the noose. One big problem though was that one of the people he executed turned out to be innocent. Pierrepoint (film - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pierrepoint_(film))) Timothy Evans - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_Evans)

These all or nothing scenarios seem impractical to me though. They should try to do the best with what they have whether they have the death penalty in that state or not. Victim/survivors have to accept whatever is the law in that State and hope that the State got the right person. More eyes and ears looking for justice is a good thing IMHO. And logical brains not those filled with vengeance. I know how hard that is though when a dearly beloved is the victim from my own experiences with the Mitchells and their many students and how messed up that investigation became mostly because of the community's need for closure.

I like the saying of: "Kill them all and let God sort them out."

[TNLAKEPANDA]

Nobody in the last 30 plus years has been rushed to execution, CBS spin. IMO The laws are written by lawyer's/politicans so they get to get paid for years and years "lawyer's welfare". I've got a lot more on this subject, but will reframe my temptations.

:BigApplause: I agree totally. Depending on their crime some of these people should not have a comfortable death.

[OhioBuckeye]

I'm assuming these adult males killed someone & they were old enough to know what they were doing at the time. Having feelings for the family maybe unless this person had parents that didn't care what he (or she) did all of his growing life. The thing is there's always somebody feeling sorry for this person or their family but I could bet any amount of money if it was your family member that one of these retards killed your love one you wouldn't be having sympathy with them in your comment. Get rid of them as fast as the state can!

[xcaligirl]

Everyone has a valid opinion in their eyes/mind however I still feel if someone is on death row it's for a valid reason. Did they care about the person(s) or the family of the person(s) who they murdered? I honestly don't believe they did.

[Taltarzac725]

Innocents have gone to jail, say NOLA public defenders - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/innocents-have-gone-to-jail-say-nola-public-defenders/)

There was an interesting story on the New Orleans Public Defenders on 60 Minutes last night. Food for thought anyway.

it just does not seem hard for the State of Arkansas to wait until they have a drug that works. The Founding Fathers did put a ban on "cruel and unusual" punishment in the Bill of Rights. Probably because they read history about some of the barbarities used against English prisoners like drawing and quartering and the like. Eighth Amendment to the United States Constitution - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eighth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution )

[Topspinmo]

I say bring back the gelatin. Quick and to the point? For mass murderers face up. Naturally public defender going to say that (lawyers welfare fund), they get so much evidence thrown out I'm surprised they could convict mass murderers for J walking.

[Taltarzac725]

Actually it seems most cases are plea bargains and do not involve any kind of trial. At least from what I have read.

And recall what a circus the Casey Anthony case was? That was an opportunity for lawyers to make names for themselves on both sides. Often are popularity contests with the jurors. Or OJ Simpson. Both instances where the prosecutors could not prove their cases beyond a reasonable doubt. They both seemed to be the right outcomes for these trials at what was presented by both sides. Probably not the right as far as their actual guilt but the jurors have to go on what their lawyers presented to them under the stare of the Judge.

[fraurose]

I agree !

[banjobob]

Some people deserve to die for their actions.

[ColdNoMore]

Everyone has a valid opinion in their eyes/mind however I still feel if someone is on death row it's for a valid reason. Did they care about the person(s) or the family of the person(s) who they murdered? I honestly don't believe they did.

Really?

How about the 18 death row inmates who have been exonerated due to DNA evidence?

Louisiana death row inmate 300th prisoner freed by DNA evidence - latimes (http://articles.latimes.com/2012/sep/28/nation/la-na-nn-louisiana-death-row-released-20120928)

A Louisiana man was released from death row on Friday after serving 15 years for a crime that DNA evidence shows he did not commit.

Damon Thibodeaux, 38, was the 300th prisoner nationwide to see his conviction overturned based on DNA evidence, according to lawyers who represented him from the New York-based Innocence Project.

He was the 18th death row prisoner freed based on such evidence.

Doesn't that even make you wonder, how many other innocent people have been executed over the years...before DNA?

Do you think that those innocent people executed, is just a 'cost of doing business'... and should be accepted?

Another question for you, do you also believe that if a person is arrested, charged and brought to trial...then they must be guilty or they wouldn't be on trial?

[bbbbbb]

Hi, about executions.
It is sad that we have murderers, executions, car crashes, people who are totally innocent slaughtered. But, it happens so now what? There is the State provision on the books, laws that allows executions. And, then also, we can assign life with no parole, life except not life, early release etc.
Manson was to be executed, then got life with no parole and now is having early parole considerations. So, should we feed and clothe and pamper thugs who have murdered our law abiding citizens and their children? Would you like to have Manson released into your community? How terrible it is to lose a family member who is a loving and honest individual by some POS who is skating around the punishment for years and years. The two boys, Menendez, slaughtered their parents for money, more money, they were spoiled, given everything and so they bought a shotgun and killed mom and dad who gave them life and the opportunity for happiness. Now, hey, they get married
in Jail, they get to screw some nit wit woman and have a child, maybe out of wedlock and as a taxpayer you can pay for that nonsense. On the net it shows the 7 in Arkansas and their crimes, their background, their brutality. So many folks agree as we do , put them away. They say Capital Punishment does not stop crime. OK, so show us the crime committed by someone who is executed. the majority of folks agree with Cap Punishment, so if you do not agree, fine, call the local County Sheriff and agree to house and feed and care for the next POS released under early release and be happy in your work and decisions.
Good luck to you and all the like minded persons who rely on this means of solving problems. If you really believe in your liberal policy, then don't your think you should pitch iin and give some of your valuable time to reconstructing these persons in you own home, under your wise supervision?
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[ColdNoMore]

Hi, about executions.
It is sad that we have murderers, executions, car crashes, people who are totally innocent slaughtered. But, it happens so now what? There is the State provision on the books, laws that allows executions. And, then also, we can assign life with no parole, life except not life, early release etc.
Manson was to be executed, then got life with no parole and now is having early parole considerations. So, should we feed and clothe and pamper thugs who have murdered our law abiding citizens and their children? Would you like to have Manson released into your community? How terrible it is to lose a family member who is a loving and honest individual by some POS who is skating around the punishment for years and years. The two boys, Menendez, slaughtered their parents for money, more money, they were spoiled, given everything and so they bought a shotgun and killed mom and dad who gave them life and the opportunity for happiness. Now, hey, they get married
in Jail, they get to screw some nit wit woman and have a child, maybe out of wedlock and as a taxpayer you can pay for that nonsense. On the net it shows the 7 in Arkansas and their crimes, their background, their brutality. So many folks agree as we do , put them away. They say Capital Punishment does not stop crime. OK, so show us the crime committed by someone who is executed. the majority of folks agree with Cap Punishment, so if you do not agree, fine, call the local County Sheriff and agree to house and feed and care for the next POS released under early release and be happy in your work and decisions.
Good luck to you and all the like minded persons who rely on this means of solving problems. If you really believe in your liberal policy, then don't your think you should pitch iin and give some of your valuable time to reconstructing these persons in you own home, under your wise supervision?
bbbbbb
:spoken:

Please go back and read post #31.

Thank you. :ho:

[blueash]

I say bring back the gelatin. Quick and to the point? For mass murderers face up.

Of course face up otherwise they couldn't identify the flavor /s

[Topspinmo]

Of course face up otherwise they couldn't identify the flavor /s

Good one :oops:

[manaboutown]

One down! Arkansas executes first inmate since 2005 | Fox News (http://www.foxnews.com/us/2017/04/21/arkansas-prepares-to-carry-out-first-execution-since-2005.html)

[BobnBev]

Solution-----Go quietly into their cell at 0430, so you don't wake them, un-holster your .45, and make it a head shot. Have the other death row inmates clean up the mess.

[manaboutown]

Two more last night!

[Taltarzac725]

http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2017/04/arkansas-executions-170425003426592.html

Thought this was an interesting article on these two executions.