air China cancels all flights to N Korea, N Korea sends troops to border!!!!geeeeez!

[jebartle]

Are there ANY Trump supporters that are happy that we are on the verge of a nuclear war!!!!!!!!!!! What a mess!!! Not even a 100 days of this idiot!

[rubicon]

Are there ANY Trump supporters that are happy that we are on the verge of a nuclear war!!!!!!!!!!! What a mess!!! Not even a 100 days of this idiot!

Please define "verge"

Personal Best Regards:

[Sandtrap328]

Please define "verge"

Personal Best Regards:

IDIOT! Make light of a most dangerous situation caused by YOUR ignorant president.

#notmypresident

[Rockyrd]

Please define "verge"

Personal Best Regards:

While you "lighten" this situation for some stupid reason, it is in the eye of the beholder.

Playing word games with a kid nutcase in N Korea does not strike me as very smart at all. One bad twitch, and maybe a series of events.

You make light of this while speaking with such somber tones about millions of Americans whose only crime is not agreeing with your political philosophy.

[ColdNoMore]

While you "lighten" this situation for some stupid reason, it is in the eye of the beholder.

Playing word games with a kid nutcase in N Korea does not strike me as very smart at all. One bad twitch, and maybe a series of events.

You make light of this while speaking with such somber tones about millions of Americans whose only crime is not agreeing with your political philosophy.


:BigApplause:

[dirtbanker]

Are there ANY Trump supporters that are happy that we are on the verge of a nuclear war!!!!!!!!!!! What a mess!!! Not even a 100 days of this idiot!
I am happy I don't live in NY or DC...I would assume those are 1st targets. We can buuld them back better. Hiroshima is gorgeous theses days.

When it's your day it is your day. The nut job in North Korea has been wanting to get in a war and Obamma did nothing to slow him down. To late to cry about spilled milk.

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[DARFAP]

Get a grip

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[dirtbanker]

You make light of this while speaking with such somber tones about millions of Americans whose only crime is not agreeing with your political philosophy.
Are you suggesting Democrats are going to be targeted? There are people that voted for Trump all across the country...



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[MDLNB]

IDIOT! Make light of a most dangerous situation caused by YOUR ignorant president.

#notmypresident

Wow, chill out. We are not on the verge of war. NK is a starving nation and it's run by a nut case. If we have to drop a MOAB on their leader, there is not one person in that country that will miss him. A war with NK would last us about fifteen minutes.

Too bad SK is so close to them, because then we could simply nuke'em.

[Rockyrd]

Wow, chill out. We are not on the verge of war. NK is a starving nation and it's run by a nut case. If we have to drop a MOAB on their leader, there is not one person in that country that will miss him. A war with NK would last us about fifteen minutes.

Too bad SK is so close to them, because then we could simply nuke'em.

Obviously you do not live in South Korea or Japan, or have anyone you know on the ships sent there.

All within strike with a push of a button.

[jebartle]

Wow, chill out. We are not on the verge of war. NK is a starving nation and it's run by a nut case. If we have to drop a MOAB on their leader, there is not one person in that country that will miss him. A war with NK would last us about fifteen minutes.

Too bad SK is so close to them, because then we could simply nuke'em.

Vietnam was suppose to be easy also, we lost too many young men.

[rubicon]

IDIOT! Make light of a most dangerous situation caused by YOUR ignorant president.

#notmypresident

Friend, get a grip the sky is not falling. America struck at Syria while Trump was having dinner with the Chinese. Trump is in the process of deal making with China. Did you not read where China told N Korea to pull in their wings.

Quite honestly Obama's weak foreign/defense policies were a greater concern.

Progressive never understood the concept of "peace through strength" and they never will.

And please extend me the same courtesy as I do you and all other posters by refraining from name calling. Its unsightly, unnecessary and quite honestly a sign of weakness.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

While you "lighten" this situation for some stupid reason, it is in the eye of the beholder.

Playing word games with a kid nutcase in N Korea does not strike me as very smart at all. One bad twitch, and maybe a series of events.

You make light of this while speaking with such somber tones about millions of Americans whose only crime is not agreeing with your political philosophy.

Exactly "in the eye of the beholder" The name of the game is I have more nukes than you. The N Korean little dictator knows that and he only rattles his cage when he needs another monetary shakedown from America.

I wouldn't be surprised to read within the next year that the little dictator was assassinated and in his place a leader who could embrace the entire world .

Its difficult for progressives to grasp the concept of "peace through strength"

Personal Best Regards.

[rubicon]

:BigApplause:

Hey the other half of the tag team joins in. Great to hear from you.

In the event you haven't run across this term its called "peace through strength"

And in case you also haven't heard Trump left the decisions concerning Syria and North Korea in the capable hands of the military.

Personal Best Regards:

[ColdNoMore]

Hey the other half of the tag team joins in. Great to hear from you.
I'm glad you're pleased, because with your overt ignorance and constant soapbox bloviating on subjects you have no clue about...I'm not going away anytime soon. :D



In the event you haven't run across this term its called "peace through strength"

And in case you also haven't heard Trump left the decisions concerning Syria and North Korea in the capable hands of the military.

Personal Best Regards:

In case YOU haven't heard, Chump bragged about how he "knows more than the generals...believe me."

And even though he was referencing Isis in that particular instance, it's clear that is how he thinks and now we know that was just another lie...that ignorant cultists like yourself bought, hook, line & sinker. :oops:

That you and your fellow cultists don't seem to be even smart enough to understand that North Korea is led by Chump's narcissistic, sociopathic twin who is ready to do anything to avoid the same fate as Hussein/Ghadafi...is the most troubling factor.


North Korea cites Muammar Gaddafi's 'destruction' in nuclear test defence - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/12090658/North-Korea-cites-Muammar-Gaddafis-destruction-in-nuclear-test-defence.html)
North Korea has defended its latest nuclear test, saying the fate of Saddam Hussein in Iraq and Muammar Gaddafi in Libya showed what happened when countries forsake their nuclear weapon ambitions.

In other words dip$hit, a "show of strength" means nothing to this nutjob.

He is very willing to go down swinging, by taking out a big swath of South Korea...should he feel ultimately threatened.

Just like Trump's ignorant comment about "who knew health care was so complicated," he had to be lectured by Chinese President Xi Jinping about things that he should have already known. :ohdear:.

Trump on North Korea: “After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy” - Vox (http://www.vox.com/2017/4/12/15279654/trump-north-korea-xi-10-minutes)
“After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy,” the president told the Journal. “I felt pretty strongly that they had a tremendous power [over] North Korea. ... But it’s not what you would think.”


Obama actually did an excellent job and understood all of intricacies of the complicated mess that is N. Korea, whereas Chump is proving to be an ignorant bully...who doesn't understand much of anything.

And Chicken-Hawks like Trump, who don't have a clue on how to deescalate a tense situation...are the scariest people on the planet.

In other words, yes we do have to find a way to deal with North Korea, but your simplistic approach of "let's scare him with our military," is not only ignorant beyond comprehension...but will be deadly for hundreds of thousands of people in South Korea.


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[MDLNB]

Vietnam was suppose to be easy also, we lost too many young men.

Who said Vietnam was supposed to be easy? Vietnam was a mess because politicians micromanaged it and did not allow the military do what it was trained and experienced at doing.

We could have won, IF the politicians would have allowed us to win.

[MDLNB]

I'm glad you're pleased, because with your overt ignorance and constant soapbox bloviating on subjects you have no clue about...I'm not going away anytime soon. :D





In case YOU haven't heard, Chump bragged about how he "knows more than the generals...believe me."

And even though he was referencing Isis in that particular instance, it's clear that is how he thinks and now we know that was just another lie...that ignorant cultists like yourself bought, hook, line & sinker. :oops:

That you and your fellow cultists don't seem to be even smart enough to understand that North Korea is led by Chump's narcissistic, sociopathic twin who is ready to do anything to avoid the same fate as Hussein/Ghadafi...is the most troubling factor.


North Korea cites Muammar Gaddafi's 'destruction' in nuclear test defence - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/12090658/North-Korea-cites-Muammar-Gaddafis-destruction-in-nuclear-test-defence.html)


In other words dip$hit, a "show of strength" means nothing to this nutjob.

He is very willing to go down swinging, by taking out a big swath of South Korea...should he feel ultimately threatened.

Just like Trump's ignorant comment about "who knew health care was so complicated," he had to be lectured by Chinese President Xi Jinping about things that he should have already known. :ohdear:.

Trump on North Korea: “After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy” - Vox (http://www.vox.com/2017/4/12/15279654/trump-north-korea-xi-10-minutes)



Obama actually did an excellent job and understood all of intricacies of the complicated mess that is N. Korea, whereas Chump is proving to be an ignorant bully...who doesn't understand much of anything.

And Chicken-Hawks like Trump, who don't have a clue on how to deescalate a tense situation...are the scariest people on the planet.

In other words, yes we do have to find a way to deal with North Korea, but your simplistic approach of "let's scare him with our military," is not only ignorant beyond comprehension...but will be deadly for hundreds of thousands of people in South Korea.


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

I hope you are not naive enough to believe the crap you wrote. Obama was a wimp with no life experience, let alone enough smarts to hire the right people to advise him. He was a disgrace to this country and only got the job due to affirmative action and smoke and mirrors. He was subsidized by commie Soros the WWII war criminal and tax evader. So, please don't attempt to suppose that Obama was good at anything other than kissing up to Hollywood.

[Taltarzac725]

North Korea news LIVE: Latest updates as Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump inch closer to WW3 | World | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/791922/north-korea-live-updates-latest-news-kim-jong-un-donald-trump-threat-nuclear-war)

It is worrisome.

[Rockyrd]

Hey the other half of the tag team joins in. Great to hear from you.

In the event you haven't run across this term its called "peace through strength"

And in case you also haven't heard Trump left the decisions concerning Syria and North Korea in the capable hands of the military.

Personal Best Regards:

I am very very well aware of "peace through strength", and find you implying that you alone know about that concept extremely insulting.

I also know, FOR SURE, that the word "strength" in the phrase does not mean MOUTHING OFF. That is a tool of a bully, and never ends well.

[dirtbanker]

North Korea news LIVE: Latest updates as Kim Jong-un and Donald Trump inch closer to WW3 | World | News | Express.co.uk (http://www.express.co.uk/news/world/791922/north-korea-live-updates-latest-news-kim-jong-un-donald-trump-threat-nuclear-war)

It is worrisome.
What, no news from CNN?

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[Taltarzac725]

Donald Trump seems to make foreign policy with his gonads as his main adviser. Not good.

[dirtbanker]

Donald Trump seems to make foreign policy with his gonads as his main adviser. Not good.
What do your parents base their policies on?

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[jebartle]

Let's send Donald Jr and eric, maybe potus will use his other brain!

[MDLNB]

Donald Trump seems to make foreign policy with his gonads as his main adviser. Not good.

At least he has some. Unlike the girly boy that occupied the White House before him. Michelle had him castrated long before he entered the White House.

[MDLNB]

Let's send Donald Jr and eric, maybe potus will use his other brain!

Don't lose control and get hysterical on us. Go to your safe room and don't return to the forum until you can control yourself.

[dirtbanker]

Don't lose control and get hysterical on us. Go to your safe room and don't return to the forum until you can control yourself.
A better suggestion might be "stay in your safe room till you feel safe"...

That emotional basket case will be in there for the next 8 years!

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[Taltarzac725]

Let's send Donald Jr and eric, maybe potus will use his other brain!

What would these two do? Shoot it, bag it and tag it? Photos of Trump’s sons hunting game in Africa resurface - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/pics-rump-adult-sons-hunting-game-africa-resurface-article-1.2308107)

[jebartle]

Exactly "in the eye of the beholder" The name of the game is I have more nukes than you. The N Korean little dictator knows that and he only rattles his cage when he needs another monetary shakedown from America.

I wouldn't be surprised to read within the next year that the little dictator was assassinated and in his place a leader who could embrace the entire world .

Its difficult for progressives to grasp the concept of "peace through strength"

Personal Best Regards.

a How did Vietnam work out for you? Did you lose a family member than you would understand that rattling sabers doesn't work, period!

[MDLNB]

What would these two do? Shoot it, bag it and tag it? Photos of Trump’s sons hunting game in Africa resurface - NY Daily News (http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/pics-rump-adult-sons-hunting-game-africa-resurface-article-1.2308107)

Do you have a problem with hunting? And what does your obsession for the Trumps have to do with North Korea?

You are losing it, Tal. :rant-rave:

[MDLNB]

a How did Vietnam work out for you? Did you lose a family member than you would understand that rattling sabers doesn't work, period!

Losing a family member is rough. But, to suggest that they were wrong by serving their country is demeaning their patriotism and service. Losing someone in combat is not related to "rattling sabers" so your correlation is ludicrous.

[Chi-Town]

This tweet is so Twitter perfect...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/0a4918ab86a606fffa495e558f3c6471.jpg

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[Taltarzac725]

This tweet is so Twitter perfect...

https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20170415/0a4918ab86a606fffa495e558f3c6471.jpg

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Maybe they should golf together and then maybe a sinkhole would open and swallow both of them. A lot of the world's problems would be solved.

Doubt if the NK leader would visit FL though.

[dirtbanker]

Maybe they should golf together and then maybe a sinkhole would open and swallow both of them. A lot of the world's problems would be solved.

Doubt if the NK leader would visit FL though.

I am guessing your parents take turns sleeping when you are in the house...

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[dirtbanker]

Once they go, and the estate is settled, the wackadoodle is heading to California...

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[MDLNB]

Once they go, and the estate is settled, the wackadoodle is heading to California...

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My guess would be San Fran.

[MDLNB]

I am guessing your parents take turns sleeping when you are in the house...

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:a20:

[autumnspring]

IDIOT! Make light of a most dangerous situation caused by YOUR ignorant president.

#notmypresident

Obviously, you did not vote for Trump. It will be come obvious that I did.

I did not vote for Obama-obviously you did.

Obama was still my president-AND TRUMP IS YOUR PRESIDENT.

Aside-THINK-the Republicans are clearly far superior.
YOU DID NOT SEE YOUR KIND OF CRAP WHEN YOU INSTALLED OBAMA.

As to nuclear war. I don't know your history but, till is was 13 we lived in a crappy neighborhood. You/I quickly learned you must not back down.

Afghanistan was a clear demonstration to China, N. KOREA,
IRAN-that KUMBAYAH IS OVER-0BAMA TRIED IT-OBAMA BOWED TO MUSLIMS AND DUMPED ON OUR ALLIES.

[Rockyrd]

While so many visit here to make fun of a post highlighting how serious this situation is or could become.

You folks are simply blindly supporting a "mine is bigger than yours" mentality that has no reasoning nor future involved. To strut the world saying you are "the new sheriff in town" does not solve one single problem that existed before the boasting.

Do you think the world is safer today than yesterday ? I think not. Yep, US is back strutting around but with no policy at all, just saber rattling. Might buy some time, but for what.

I really am shocked at the attitude to a post that was intended for one poster who basically made fun.

If you live in Japan or South Korea, where a simple touch could kill thousands of innocent people, you folks still try to make political hay anyway you can no matter the consequences.

More people in this world are uneasy today than yesterday and it is not n unease that will diminish quickly.

Article today addressing this tells how various Presidents handled this stuff. The loud mouthing from N Korea, the drills, the challenging.....Seems all those things are in our domain now. We are the mouths, we rattle the sabers, while those actually in that area just watch.

I certainly recognize we are superior to N Korea, but also recognize that if this game of chicken has one mistake...boom...millions die.

Stop mocking anyone who has concerns. If you have no concerns it means one of two things....either you do not understand the potential, or you political love affair, whether with Trump or the party is now the only church you wish to visit.

"What’s different now is Donald Trump. Whereas many of his predecessors steered sedulously clear of escalatory rhetoric, preferring to treat various North Korean leaders as recalcitrant children at worst or distasteful but nevertheless semi-rational negotiating partners at best, Trump has threatened North Korea via Twitter, declaring that the regime is “looking for trouble.” As my colleague Uri Friedman pointed out Thursday, three successive presidents prior to Trump, since the Clinton administration considered military action against the North’s then-nascent nuclear program, have opted for trying negotiations rather than risk a strike. It’s apparent that none succeeded in halting the nuclear program’s progress. But it’s equally apparent that the kind of massive conflagration on the Korean peninsula that world leaders are now warning against has been avoided since 1953."

North Korea and the Risks of Miscalculation - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/04/north-korea/523080/)

[dirtbanker]

I skipped right over the bold highlighted copy and paste...

Make up you mind old guy, your sounding more like a woman everyday.

On one instance you applaud Trump for bombing in Syria...there was a good amount of saber rattling before and after the bombs were dropped.

Now you whining about Saber rattling with N Korea...maybe you think we should be more reactive and wait for Kim to kill innocent people first??

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[Sandtrap328]

[QUOTE SueSiegel:Obviously, you did not vote for Trump. It will be come obvious that I did.

I did not vote for Obama-obviously you did.

Obama was still my president-AND TRUMP IS YOUR PRESIDENT.

Aside-THINK-the Republicans are clearly far superior.
YOU DID NOT SEE YOUR KIND OF CRAP WHEN YOU INSTALLED OBAMA.

As to nuclear war. I don't know your history but, till is was 13 we lived in a crappy neighborhood. You/I quickly learned you must not back down.

Afghanistan was a clear demonstration to China, N. KOREA,
IRAN-that KUMBAYAH IS OVER-0BAMA TRIED IT-OBAMA BOWED TO MUSLIMS AND DUMPED ON OUR ALLIES.[/QUOTE]

As stated succinctly on another thread to SueSiegel - Go Pound Sand.

[MDLNB]

While so many visit here to make fun of a post highlighting how serious this situation is or could become.

You folks are simply blindly supporting a "mine is bigger than yours" mentality that has no reasoning nor future involved. To strut the world saying you are "the new sheriff in town" does not solve one single problem that existed before the boasting.

Do you think the world is safer today than yesterday ? I think not. Yep, US is back strutting around but with no policy at all, just saber rattling. Might buy some time, but for what.

I really am shocked at the attitude to a post that was intended for one poster who basically made fun.

If you live in Japan or South Korea, where a simple touch could kill thousands of innocent people, you folks still try to make political hay anyway you can no matter the consequences.

More people in this world are uneasy today than yesterday and it is not n unease that will diminish quickly.

Article today addressing this tells how various Presidents handled this stuff. The loud mouthing from N Korea, the drills, the challenging.....Seems all those things are in our domain now. We are the mouths, we rattle the sabers, while those actually in that area just watch.

I certainly recognize we are superior to N Korea, but also recognize that if this game of chicken has one mistake...boom...millions die.

Stop mocking anyone who has concerns. If you have no concerned it means one of two things....either you do not understand the potential, or you political love affair, whether with Trump or the party is now the only church you wish to vein.

"What’s different now is Donald Trump. Whereas many of his predecessors steered sedulously clear of escalatory rhetoric, preferring to treat various North Korean leaders as recalcitrant children at worst or distasteful but nevertheless semi-rational negotiating partners at best, Trump has threatened North Korea via Twitter, declaring that the regime is “looking for trouble.” As my colleague Uri Friedman pointed out Thursday, three successive presidents prior to Trump, since the Clinton administration considered military action against the North’s then-nascent nuclear program, have opted for trying negotiations rather than risk a strike. It’s apparent that none succeeded in halting the nuclear program’s progress. But it’s equally apparent that the kind of massive conflagration on the Korean peninsula that world leaders are now warning against has been avoided since 1953."

North Korea and the Risks of Miscalculation - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/04/north-korea/523080/)

People with your chicken sh*t pacifism are the ones that get us INTO wars. If China stays out of it, we will squash NK like the bugs they are. And the populace of that country would be thanking us for it. You live nice and plush in your Florida home, compliments of our fathers that sacrificed to give you the freedom that you DON'T deserve. Man up and quit being a sissy. There is right and there is wrong and there is the American way. If you want peace, you get it by other countries respecting our power and our will to be examples for the world. We didn't ask for it. We took it because no one else wanted the job.

[dirtbanker]

Sandy - why the struggles with quote format lately?

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[rubicon]

I'm glad you're pleased, because with your overt ignorance and constant soapbox bloviating on subjects you have no clue about...I'm not going away anytime soon. :D





In case YOU haven't heard, Chump bragged about how he "knows more than the generals...believe me."

And even though he was referencing Isis in that particular instance, it's clear that is how he thinks and now we know that was just another lie...that ignorant cultists like yourself bought, hook, line & sinker. :oops:

That you and your fellow cultists don't seem to be even smart enough to understand that North Korea is led by Chump's narcissistic, sociopathic twin who is ready to do anything to avoid the same fate as Hussein/Ghadafi...is the most troubling factor.


North Korea cites Muammar Gaddafi's 'destruction' in nuclear test defence - Telegraph (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/northkorea/12090658/North-Korea-cites-Muammar-Gaddafis-destruction-in-nuclear-test-defence.html)


In other words dip$hit, a "show of strength" means nothing to this nutjob.

He is very willing to go down swinging, by taking out a big swath of South Korea...should he feel ultimately threatened.

Just like Trump's ignorant comment about "who knew health care was so complicated," he had to be lectured by Chinese President Xi Jinping about things that he should have already known. :ohdear:.

Trump on North Korea: “After listening for 10 minutes, I realized it’s not so easy” - Vox (http://www.vox.com/2017/4/12/15279654/trump-north-korea-xi-10-minutes)



Obama actually did an excellent job and understood all of intricacies of the complicated mess that is N. Korea, whereas Chump is proving to be an ignorant bully...who doesn't understand much of anything.

And Chicken-Hawks like Trump, who don't have a clue on how to deescalate a tense situation...are the scariest people on the planet.

In other words, yes we do have to find a way to deal with North Korea, but your simplistic approach of "let's scare him with our military," is not only ignorant beyond comprehension...but will be deadly for hundreds of thousands of people in South Korea.


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

What I can say in all honesty ,sincerity and factually about you is that you are consistently and remarkably ineffective in your analysis.

In one sentence Iran is by far a greater concern than Syria and North Korea combined. I am not gong to do your homework check it out yourself but I'll offer some clues.

1) the agreement between United States and Iran is inherently and dangerously flawed allowing them carte blanche, so that Iran doesn't even have to break the agreement and can achieve more in the open than Syria and North Korea can under the shadow of darkness.

2) Unlike Syria and North Korea and their allies Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world and openly stated it would destroy another nation, Israel

3) because of the situation described in #2 Netanyahu believes Iran is 50 times more dangerous than North Korea and he said many more times than Syria... Now stop and think. If Iran goes to war with Israel what would America's position be?

Deep sincere wishes you may not always be right but you are always" Deep Sincere Wishes" Please share this post with your tag team partner( ie speak among yourselves)

Personal Best Regards:

[Chi-Town]

People with your chicken sh*t pacifism are the ones that get us INTO wars. If China stays out of it, we will squash NK like the bugs they are. And the populace of that country would be thanking us for it. You live nice and plush in your Florida home, compliments of our fathers that sacrificed to give you the freedom that you DON'T deserve. Man up and quit being a sissy. There is right and there is wrong and there is the American way. If you want peace, you get it by other countries respecting our power and our will to be examples for the world. We didn't ask for it. We took it because no one else wanted the job.
You obviously are a slow learner. And making a point intellectually is not in the cards.

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[joldnol]

Who said Vietnam was supposed to be easy? Vietnam was a mess because politicians micromanaged it and did not allow the military do what it was trained and experienced at doing.

We could have won, IF the politicians would have allowed us to win.

We never would have won. It is next to impossible for a power from the outside to defeat a determined, native insurgency. We would have won a lot of battles (as we did) but we still would have lost. History bears it out.

[Sandtrap328]

We never would have won. It is next to impossible for a power from the outside to defeat a determined, native insurgency. We would have won a lot of battles (as we did) but we still would have lost. History bears it out.

...and the strongest nation lost to a third world country.

You are 100% right. The Russians lost big time in Afghanistan and the US has not won either. Those guerilla warriors have not been defeated in any enemy invasion going back in time to Alexander The Great.

MDLBQ definitely is a slow learner if he believes the US would squash the North Korea forces like bugs. Ask any of the veterans of the Korean War. There are now millions more of the North Koreans all brainwashed into dying for their lunatic leader. Our lunatic leader would not be able to get the same number of troops willing to die for him.

#not my president

[ColdNoMore]

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

What I can say in all honesty ,sincerity and factually about you is that you are consistently and remarkably ineffective in your analysis.

First of all, please save yourself future embarrassment and drop the "Dear" as no one, not even yourself, believes you mean it...and you simply broadcast your falseness and pseudo-intellectualism when you do it. :ho:

Secondly, almost NOTHING you say is "honest, factual or sincere"...so you can save that embarrassment too. :D





In one sentence Iran is by far a greater concern than Syria and North Korea combined. I am not gong to do your homework check it out yourself but I'll offer some clues.

1) the agreement between United States and Iran is inherently and dangerously flawed allowing them carte blanche, so that Iran doesn't even have to break the agreement and can achieve more in the open than Syria and North Korea can under the shadow of darkness.

2) Unlike Syria and North Korea and their allies Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world and openly stated it would destroy another nation, Israel

3) because of the situation described in #2 Netanyahu believes Iran is 50 times more dangerous than North Korea and he said many more times than Syria... Now stop and think. If Iran goes to war with Israel what would America's position be?

Where to even start? :ohdear:

Let's try the fact that this thread is about North Korea and not a relative comparison...of which nation is a "greater concern."

That you have tried, once again, to obfuscate with your inability to present a cogent argument and/or stay on topic...is not really surprising.

That you think just because you say something, it must be factual...is also not surprising.

And neither is your example of the leader of a country right next to Iran and completely out of reach of North Korea...saying that Iran is more dangerous than North Korea.

You suppose the leaders/populace of South Korea and Japan...would agree with Netanyahu's statement? :oops:

In other words, you're less-than-bright attempt to justify your misdirection and off-topic post is (wait for it :D)...NOT surprising either.

However, since you've already brought it up, I'll call your bluff of one non-nuclear country that sponsors terrorists with mostly suicide vests and Toyota Hilux pickup trucks with 50 cal's in the bed...and raise you a nuclear country within striking distance of almost 180 MILLION people (Japan/S. Korea combined).

Not to mention that Japan's $4.38 TRILLION (USD) ranks 3rd in the world and South Korea's $1.38 TRILLION (USD) ranks 11th in the world...while Israel's GDP is $299 billion (USD) ranks 36th in the world.

So not only are we talking a HUGE difference in population...but also how it would affect the world's finance centers & economies.

Japan vs South Korea vs Israel - Country Facts Comparison (https://country-facts.findthedata.com/compare/82-113-222/Japan-vs-South-Korea-vs-Israel)

So, tell us all again how a NON-NUCLEAR country who is an immediate threat to 8.5 Million people (Israel's population), is so much worse than a NUCLEAR armed country, with a narcissistic sociopath leading it...that is within striking range of 180 Million people.

I really want to hear this. :popcorn:

Let me warn you though, since you NEVER provide proof to your bloviating and you've already buried yourself with embarrassment...this would be an excellent time for you to review the 'Rule Of Holes.'


'When you're in one...STOP digging.' :1rotfl:



Deep sincere wishes you may not always be right but you are always" Deep Sincere Wishes" Please share this post with your tag team partner( ie speak among yourselves)

Personal Best Regards:

I don't "share" anything with Rocky, except an agreement that you are the most self-absorbed, arrogant (totally unwarranted based on your posts)...and delusional poster here.

You DO crack me up though, given that your pseudo-intellectualism is so strikingly borne of desperation...as to almost garner a little empathy. :a20:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Don Baldwin]

We never would have won. It is next to impossible for a power from the outside to defeat a determined, native insurgency. We would have won a lot of battles (as we did) but we still would have lost. History bears it out.

You MUST kill EVERYONE. That is how you win...it's the ONLY way to win. Like in the old days...kill everyone or enslave them. Otherwise, they'll fight you forever.

The point you miss is that perpetual "war" is what they want. You think it's an accident we never ended the Korean war?

We haven't "declared war" officially since WWII.

Declaration of war by the United States - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States)

[rubicon]

First of all, please save yourself future embarrassment and drop the "Dear" as no one, not even yourself, believes you mean it...and you simply broadcast your falseness and pseudo-intellectualism when you do it. :ho:

Secondly, almost NOTHING you say is "honest, factual or sincere"...so you can save that embarrassment too. :D







Where to even start? :ohdear:

Let's try the fact that this thread is about North Korea and not a relative comparison...of which nation is a "greater concern."

That you have tried, once again, to obfuscate with your inability to present a cogent argument and/or stay on topic...is not really surprising.

That you think just because you say something, it must be factual...is also not surprising.

And neither is your example of the leader of a country right next to Iran and completely out of reach of North Korea...saying that Iran is more dangerous than North Korea.

You suppose the leaders/populace of South Korea and Japan...would agree with Netanyahu's statement? :oops:

In other words, you're less-than-bright attempt to justify your misdirection and off-topic post is (wait for it :D)...NOT surprising either.

However, since you've already brought it up, I'll call your bluff of one non-nuclear country that sponsors terrorists with mostly suicide vests and Toyota Hilux pickup trucks with 50 cal's in the bed...and raise you a nuclear country within striking distance of almost 180 MILLION people (Japan/S. Korea combined).

Not to mention that Japan's $4.38 TRILLION (USD) ranks 3rd in the world and South Korea's $1.38 TRILLION (USD) ranks 11th in the world...while Israel's GDP is $299 billion (USD) ranks 36th in the world.

So not only are we talking a HUGE difference in population...but also how it would affect the world's finance centers & economies.

Japan vs South Korea vs Israel - Country Facts Comparison (https://country-facts.findthedata.com/compare/82-113-222/Japan-vs-South-Korea-vs-Israel)

So, tell us all again how a NON-NUCLEAR country who is an immediate threat to 8.5 Million people (Israel's population), is so much worse than a NUCLEAR armed country, with a narcissistic sociopath leading it...that is within striking range of 180 Million people.

I really want to hear this. :popcorn:

Let me warn you though, since you NEVER provide proof to your bloviating and you've already buried yourself with embarrassment...this would be an excellent time for you to review the 'Rule Of Holes.'


'When you're in one...STOP digging.' :1rotfl:





I don't "share" anything with Rocky, except an agreement that you are the most self-absorbed, arrogant (totally unwarranted based on your posts)...and delusional poster here.

You DO crack me up though, given that your pseudo-intellectualism is so strikingly borne of desperation...as to almost garner a little empathy. :a20:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

You may not always be right but your always Deepest sincere Wishes. I noticed that you ignored the theme of this topic. The issue was we are on the verge of..... what I asked originally was define "verge". what I followed with was that no one in this conversation spoke to Iran and based on how active Iran is in sponsoring terrorism, etc they are the real aggressors not N Korea nor Syria. Iran is the real threat here because N Korea and Syria are primarily involved in internal conflicts..and by the way did you happen to notice that N Korea's latest test failed.

Naturally, never should caution be tossed to the wind but I am not suggesting that. However a more reasonable and realistic outlook point to Iran as very troubling.

Your vitriolic attacks on me are very telling.

Personal Best Regards:

[ColdNoMore]

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

You may not always be right but your always Deepest sincere Wishes. I noticed that you ignored the theme of this topic. The issue was we are on the verge of..... what I asked originally was define "verge". what I followed with was that no one in this conversation spoke to Iran and based on how active Iran is in sponsoring terrorism, etc they are the real aggressors not N Korea nor Syria. Iran is the real threat here because N Korea and Syria are primarily involved in internal conflicts..and by the way did you happen to notice that N Korea's latest test failed.

Naturally, never should caution be tossed to the wind but I am not suggesting that. However a more reasonable and realistic outlook point to Iran as very troubling.

Your vitriolic attacks on me are very telling.

Personal Best Regards:

Dear Con,

You are almost never correct, but that doesn't seem to stop you from trying to obfuscate, misdirect and change the subject, in attempts to hide your pseudo-intellectualism...and is much more telling. :ho:

I simply eviscerated your asinine previous post, with facts and links...no vitriol present. :D

You're lack of knowledge, credibility and cognitive thinking elicits great mirth...not vitriol.

You're neither credible, nor smart enough...to become vitriolic towards. :ohdear:

Sorry if that hurts your feelings. ;)



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[dirtbanker]

Looks like the (unt got her thesaurus out again...

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[MDLNB]

You obviously are a slow learner. And making a point intellectually is not in the cards.

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And there you have it, folks. An intellectual retort from another liberal with no explanation as to why he disagrees. Typical liberal.

[MDLNB]

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

What I can say in all honesty ,sincerity and factually about you is that you are consistently and remarkably ineffective in your analysis.

In one sentence Iran is by far a greater concern than Syria and North Korea combined. I am not gong to do your homework check it out yourself but I'll offer some clues.

1) the agreement between United States and Iran is inherently and dangerously flawed allowing them carte blanche, so that Iran doesn't even have to break the agreement and can achieve more in the open than Syria and North Korea can under the shadow of darkness.

2) Unlike Syria and North Korea and their allies Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world and openly stated it would destroy another nation, Israel

3) because of the situation described in #2 Netanyahu believes Iran is 50 times more dangerous than North Korea and he said many more times than Syria... Now stop and think. If Iran goes to war with Israel what would America's position be?

Deep sincere wishes you may not always be right but you are always" Deep Sincere Wishes" Please share this post with your tag team partner( ie speak among yourselves)

Personal Best Regards:

:thumbup:

[rubicon]

Dear Con,

You are almost never correct, but that doesn't seem to stop you from trying to obfuscate, misdirect and change the subject, in attempts to hide your pseudo-intellectualism...and is much more telling. :ho:

I simply eviscerated your asinine previous post, with facts and links...no vitriol present. :D

You're lack of knowledge, credibility and cognitive thinking elicits great mirth...not vitriol.

You're neither credible, nor smart enough...to become vitriolic towards. :ohdear:

Sorry if that hurts your feelings. ;)



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Despite being given the courtesy and opportunity of friendly reminders by other posters you continue with the poor alinsky version of vitriolic and shaming as a basis for your responses.

You admonish me for insincerity with my use of the word "Dear" but lose sight of the fact that every one of your Political Talk posts ends with your identification signature "Deepest Sincere Wishes". An identification signature mimicking my "Personal Best Regards, I might add

You repeatedly and continually refer to me as pseudo-intellectual and I respond in a sotto voce manner "Deepest is thinking wow this guy is smarter than me". You can define me anyway you wish. However what I am not is over emotional, nor do I have a propensity toward personal attacks .

Once again I harbor you no ill will and I will always respond civilly unless force to do otherwise in which case I am quite capable of responding in kind.

In another matter you have told me that you are not a member of a tag team. I take you at your word and will never raise that issue again.

PS Again, Iran is the bad actor to watch because they continue to cross their borders to enact their jihad.

Personal Best Regards:

[ColdNoMore]

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Despite being given the courtesy and opportunity of friendly reminders by other posters you continue with the poor alinsky version of vitriolic and shaming as a basis for your responses.

You admonish me for insincerity with my use of the word "Dear" but lose sight of the fact that every one of your Political Talk posts ends with your identification signature "Deepest Sincere Wishes". An identification signature mimicking my "Personal Best Regards, I might add

You repeatedly and continually refer to me as pseudo-intellectual and I respond in a sotto voce manner "Deepest is thinking wow this guy is smarter than me". You can define me anyway you wish. However what I am not is over emotional, nor do I have a propensity toward personal attacks .

Once again I harbor you no ill will and I will always respond civilly unless force to do otherwise in which case I am quite capable of responding in kind.

In another matter you have told me that you are not a member of a tag team. I take you at your word and will never raise that issue again.

PS Again, Iran is the bad actor to watch because they continue to cross their borders to enact their jihad.

Personal Best Regards:

LOL :1rotfl:

You really have a high opinion of yourself...that is totally divorced from reality. :oops:

That you believe you're supposedly 'civil,' yet take every opportunity to denigrate anyone who doesn't share your extreme right positions...is beyond pathetic.

No wonder you have a bromance with Trump, since you both share a lot of the most disgusting personality traits...a decent human can have. :ohdear:

And by the way, I personally harbor no ill will toward you either.

If the truth be known, I actually feel a bit sorry for you as it is apparent that you've spent your life trying to live up to something you can never achieve...which is intelligent discourse based on cognitive thinking and an ability to evaluate both sides disparately.

That you always slink right back to your simpleton views proves that and here's a big hint, calling you the 'pseudo-intellectual' that you are is NOT a compliment...and you are far from my equal in that arena. :D

As to Iran being a bad actor...NO ONE stated that they weren't.

I'm not sure if maybe you think people can't go back and read what you said, but your original point was to try and state how much worse the Iran situation is than North Korea and after I eviscerated that argument (with links/proof)...now you're saying that you were only trying to say that Iran is a "bad actor?"

Do you really believe folks are dumb enough to believe your outright lying and attempt at obfuscation/misdirection...when they can read for themselves what you've said? :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[graciegirl]

LOL :1rotfl:

You really have a high opinion of yourself...that is totally divorced from reality. :oops:

That you believe you're supposedly 'civil,' yet take every opportunity to denigrate anyone who doesn't share your extreme right positions...is beyond pathetic.

No wonder you have a bromance with Trump, since you both share a lot of the most disgusting personality traits...a decent human can have. :ohdear:

And by the way, I personally harbor no ill will toward you either.

If the truth be known, I actually feel a bit sorry for you as it is apparent that you've spent your life trying to live up to something you can never achieve...which is intelligent discourse based on cognitive thinking and an ability to evaluate both sides disparately.

That you always slink right back to your simpleton views proves that and here's a big hint, calling you the 'pseudo-intellectual' that you are is NOT a compliment...and you are far from my equal in that arena. :D

As to Iran being a bad actor...NO ONE stated that they weren't.

I'm not sure if maybe you think people can't go back and read what you said, but your original point was to try and state how much worse the Iran situation is than North Korea and after I eviscerated that argument (with links/proof)...now you're saying that you were only trying to say that Iran is a "bad actor?"

Do you really believe folks are dumb enough to believe your outright lying and attempt at obfuscation/misdirection...when they can read for themselves what you've said? :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Many people who do not post on this forum have a high opinion of Rubicon. At two gatherings (each about 30 people) in the last month, the political forum was brought up and not one person and they were from both political parties, not one person had anything to say about Rubicon but positive things. However, there was much said about several other people who post a lot on here. I wasn't surprised with their assessments because that is how I see these people too.

You can dress some folks up, but you can't bring them home to mother.

[Rockyrd]

Many people who do not post on this forum have a high opinion of Rubicon. At two gatherings (each about 30 people) in the last month, the political forum was brought up and not one person and they were from both political parties, not one person had anything to say about Rubicon but positive things. However, there was much said about several other people who post a lot on here. I wasn't surprised with their assessments because that is how I see these people too.

You can dress some folks up, but you can't bring them home to mother.

Your point is WHAT ?

[Rockyrd]

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Despite being given the courtesy and opportunity of friendly reminders by other posters you continue with the poor alinsky version of vitriolic and shaming as a basis for your responses.

You admonish me for insincerity with my use of the word "Dear" but lose sight of the fact that every one of your Political Talk posts ends with your identification signature "Deepest Sincere Wishes". An identification signature mimicking my "Personal Best Regards, I might add

You repeatedly and continually refer to me as pseudo-intellectual and I respond in a sotto voce manner "Deepest is thinking wow this guy is smarter than me". You can define me anyway you wish. However what I am not is over emotional, nor do I have a propensity toward personal attacks .

Once again I harbor you no ill will and I will always respond civilly unless force to do otherwise in which case I am quite capable of responding in kind.

In another matter you have told me that you are not a member of a tag team. I take you at your word and will never raise that issue again.

PS Again, Iran is the bad actor to watch because they continue to cross their borders to enact their jihad.

Personal Best Regards:

I agree....LONG TERM Iran is the threat.

HOWEVER, in the now...present, where we live. We can destroy Nirth Korea and they really cannot hurt our borders....

BUT

we are giving this young person in North Korea exactly what he wants...attention. He thrives on that and has been seeking that for years. Trump is giving him that attention.

The fear is NOT anything, but we guess at what weapons he has, but my guess is he could care less whether his country is destroyed....but he could wipe a few ships off the face of the earth, and who knows the damage that might occur in Japan or South Korea, or even China.

Iran nobody will disagree, although I suggest Russia, perhaps not nuclear is a bigger problem long term, but to be blind to the current great from North Korea is truely blind.

[Abby10]

Your point is WHAT ?

I think she might be saying that some people on this forum may want to take a good look in the mirror. The problem may not be Rubicon.

[ColdNoMore]

Many people who do not post on this forum have a high opinion of Rubicon. At two gatherings (each about 30 people) in the last month, the political forum was brought up and not one person and they were from both political parties, not one person had anything to say about Rubicon but positive things. However, there was much said about several other people who post a lot on here. I wasn't surprised with their assessments because that is how I see these people too.

You can dress some folks up, but you can't bring them home to mother.

And those same people probably like insecure, passive-aggressive...two-faced obese twits. :D

I rest my case. :thumbup:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[ColdNoMore]

Your point is WHAT ?

Her point is obviously, that she needs 600+ supposed internet friends...because she's extremely insecure.

Then again, she does have good reason to be so.

[Abby10]

I think she might be saying that some people on this forum may want to take a good look in the mirror. The problem may not be Rubicon.

Posts #60 and #61 seem to have proved my point rather well!

[Rockyrd]

I think she might be saying that some people on this forum may want to take a good look in the mirror. The problem may not be Rubicon.

Well, I have said this before and will repeat what I said, although the only honest person on here is Rubicon.

But since this appears to be aimed at me.....

I think I recall Rubicon from the original politics board, but not really sure.

When I first came back, I respected his vocabulary, but then noticed he was citing offbeat websites. Many of which are of Russian origin. One he linked to a few times was Zerohedge. Now he denies it, and with the inability to properly search political posts, I gotta just say..he did, he knows it and drop it.

I also noticed, while he does have a great vocabulary, the words sounded familiar to me. So I posted TWICE flagrant violations of PLAGARISM on his part. In both cases, word for word and posted as his. Could be he forgot to link it, or say it, but when I called him on it, he never said a word. A few days ago, he did it again, although this time he changed just a few words from a Boston Globe story on Wellsley.

THUS FAR I FEEL GOOD LOOKING IN THE MIRROR BECAUSE I JUST COULD NOT DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

When not plagiarizing his main theme is to attack "progressives". I mean probably 85/90% of his posts blame everything on that group. I have no idea how many millions of Americans are "progressive" but it is a large number. SO, from one side of his mouth, he calls ANYONE, AND I MEAN ANYONE who opposes Trump, personally or policywise to suffer from some kind of syndrome, and from the other he attacks anyone in this country who is progressive. In these attacks, he never ever shrouds them in actual topics. He attacks only in general.

LET ME TAKE ANOTHER LOOK IN THAT MIRROR. YEP, STILL FEELING GOOD. I DO ATTACK TRUMP, BUT NOT A PARTY OR ANY PARTICULAR GROUP IF AMERICANS. I MENTION TRUMP FOLLOWERS AND SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM BUT DO NOT ATTACK WIDE SWATHS OF AMERICANS.

ON issues, he lectures other posters about how they will not discuss issues, YET, he avoids issue driven threads like the plague. I have begun issues ON OURPOSE that were not close to anti Trump, and did it on purpose to see if he might comment. Nope, not once.

LET ME LOOK IN THAT MIRROR AGAIN. I STILL FEEL GOOD BECAUSE I WANT BADLY TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON HERE TO BE ANOUT ISSUES, BUT NOT RUBICON.

Almost daily, although I cannot say that fore sure, Rubicon will sermonize someone or all of us on attacking. It is usually the front part of his attack on some group of people. I have seen all immigrant, some immigrants, non whites, Democrats and others be berated. Never with a suffix of "some" it is always all.

I am getting tired here..typing on an iPad while supposed to be watching kiddos is not easy, but if you need more, there is more.

Bottom line, you and of course Gracie, will defend his hypocrisy and hate always, but I can look in the mirror and feel good.

I am anti Trump. Never hid that. I am conservative and DO mention when I agree with any of his policies, UNLIKE RUBICON who blames all the ills of the world on anyone who opposes Trump. I do not trust Trump, with good reason, and I believe the country will find out in due time (not a reference to the Russia probe at all).

So, you, Gracie, and Rubicon and whomever is enlisted (not saying you fit that category, but Gracie is prone to solicit help to go after other posters) to help in attempting to make me feel guilt, it will not work.

I approach this forum as a sharing and learning xperience, but will admit, being lectured almost daily by either Rubicon or Gracie has gotten MUCH TOO MUCH of my attention, but I will not sit and read lies, or total misinformation by people in a blind attempt to prop up the single most dispicable man to ever sit in our White HOuse. I predict always his failure completely because I have followed his lie ridden, muck raking career all his life, and he ALWAYS..ALWAYS reverts back to his native self. I just pray that he does not do lasting damage to this country.

He is already destroying all ethics in the White House and is doing it quietly...but you have to read that to know it. That he doesn't tweet...only hate does he tweet.

[Abby10]

Well, I have said this before and will repeat what I said, although the only honest person on here is Rubicon.

But since this appears to be aimed at me.....

I think I recall Rubicon from the original politics board, but not really sure.

When I first came back, I respected his vocabulary, but then noticed he was citing offbeat websites. Many of which are of Russian origin. One he linked to a few times was Zerohedge. Now he denies it, and with the inability to properly search political posts, I gotta just say..he did, he knows it and drop it.

I also noticed, while he does have a great vocabulary, the words sounded familiar to me. So I posted TWICE flagrant violations of PLAGARISM on his part. In both cases, word for word and posted as his. Could be he forgot to link it, or say it, but when I called him on it, he never said a word. A few days ago, he did it again, although this time he changed just a few words from a Boston Globe story on Wellsley.

THUS FAR I FEEL GOOD LOOKING IN THE MIRROR BECAUSE I JUST COULD NOT DO ANYTHING LIKE THAT.

When not plagiarizing his main theme is to attack "progressives". I mean probably 85/90% of his posts blame everything on that group. I have no idea how many millions of Americans are "progressive" but it is a large number. SO, from one side of his mouth, he calls ANYONE, AND I MEAN ANYONE who opposes Trump, personally or policywise to suffer from some kind of syndrome, and from the other he attacks anyone in this country who is progressive. In these attacks, he never ever shrouds them in actual topics. He attacks only in general.

LET ME TAKE ANOTHER LOOK IN THAT MIRROR. YEP, STILL FEELING GOOD. I DO ATTACK TRUMP, BUT NOT A PARTY OR ANY PARTICULAR GROUP IF AMERICANS. I MENTION TRUMP FOLLOWERS AND SYMPATHIZE WITH THEM BUT DO NOT ATTACK WIDE SWATHS OF AMERICANS.

ON issues, he lectures other posters about how they will not discuss issues, YET, he avoids issue driven threads like the plague. I have begun issues ON OURPOSE that were not close to anti Trump, and did it on purpose to see if he might comment. Nope, not once.

LET ME LOOK IN THAT MIRROR AGAIN. I STILL FEEL GOOD BECAUSE I WANT BADLY TO HAVE DISCUSSIONS ON HERE TO BE ANOUT ISSUES, BUT NOT RUBICON.

Almost daily, although I cannot say that fore sure, Rubicon will sermonize someone or all of us on attacking. It is usually the front part of his attack on some group of people. I have seen all immigrant, some immigrants, non whites, Democrats and others be berated. Never with a suffix of "some" it is always all.

I am getting tired here..typing on an iPad while supposed to be watching kiddos is not easy, but if you need more, there is more.

Bottom line, you and of course Gracie, will defend his hypocrisy and hate always, but I can look in the mirror and feel good.

I am anti Trump. Never hid that. I am conservative and DO mention when I agree with any of his policies, UNLIKE RUBICON who blames all the ills of the world on anyone who opposes Trump. I do not trust Trump, with good reason, and I believe the country will find out in due time (not a reference to the Russia probe at all).

So, you, Gracie, and Rubicon and whomever is enlisted (not saying you fit that category, but Gracie is prone to solicit help to go after other posters) to help in attempting to make me feel guilt, it will not work.

I approach this forum as a sharing and learning xperience, but will admit, being lectured almost daily by either Rubicon or Gracie has gotten MUCH TOO MUCH of my attention, but I will not sit and read lies, or total misinformation by people in a blind attempt to prop up the single most dispicable man to ever sit in our White HOuse. I predict always his failure completely because I have followed his lie ridden, muck raking career all his life, and he ALWAYS..ALWAYS reverts back to his native self. I just pray that he does not do lasting damage to this country.

He is already destroying all ethics in the White House and is doing it quietly...but you have to read that to know it. That he doesn't tweet...only hate does he tweet.

I'm not on here to defend anyone, but since you took the time to respond so completely, I will attempt to do the same. I get so discouraged coming on this forum day after day and seeing Rubicon hammered no matter what he has to say. I enjoy his posts even if they are just opinion at times. Differing opinions give everyone a chance to chew on thoughts that may or may not be like their own, but sometimes you learn something new about the subject or maybe even about the person. I may be wrong, but I did not think that this was a forum where one could only post if they had first verified every word that they wrote. I always thought it was an exchange of thoughts and ideas as relates to politics. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me, but we all have the right to speak. And I think we should have that right without being attacked every time we post. It just appears to me, since this continually happens to one poster in particular (Rubicon), that it is more a personal vendetta than a disagreement of opinions.

I had a group of friends some time back, and one person in the group just rubbed me the wrong way. For years, I avoided her because it would bring up uncomfortable feelings, including anger, and I just didn't want to deal with her. Then one day I came to the realization that what I didn't like about her was actually a characteristic I didn't like about myself, but I just wasn't willing to see that in myself for a very long time. Today we talk and it's like we never lost all those years. I'm just saying, that when I feel that obsessed about what another person says whenever they speak, I know it's time for me to look in the mirror. But that's just me, no one else has to agree and that's okay too.

Enjoy your children/grandchildren and the rest of your Easter holiday.

[Rockyrd]

I'm not on here to defend anyone, but since you took the time to respond so completely, I will attempt to do the same. I get so discouraged coming on this forum day after day and seeing Rubicon hammered no matter what he has to say. I enjoy his posts even if they are just opinion at times. Differing opinions give everyone a chance to chew on thoughts that may or may not be like their own, but sometimes you learn something new about the subject or maybe even about the person. I may be wrong, but I did not think that this was a forum where one could only post if they had first verified every word that they wrote. I always thought it was an exchange of thoughts and ideas as relates to politics. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me, but we all have the right to speak. And I think we should have that right without being attacked every time we post. It just appears to me, since this continually happens to one poster in particular (Rubicon), that it is more a personal vendetta than a disagreement of opinions.

I had a group of friends some time back, and one person in the group just rubbed me the wrong way. For years, I avoided her because it would bring up uncomfortable feelings, including anger, and I just didn't want to deal with her. Then one day I came to the realization that what I didn't like about her was actually a characteristic I didn't like about myself, but I just wasn't willing to see that in myself for a very long time. Today we talk and it's like we never lost all those years. I'm just saying, that when I feel that obsessed about what another person says whenever they speak, I know it's time for me to look in the mirror. But that's just me, no one else has to agree and that's okay too.

Enjoy your children/grandchildren and the rest of your Easter holiday.

Thanks for your post.

Will at least try to be short.

I first noticed Rubicon on here during the campaign, and what got my attention besides his vocabulary was his twisting of facts, no matter how or using what method, and always his total ignoring of posts that were well researched, linked and accurate.

I have no problem with disagreement, but I have a serious problem with lying, avoidance of facts, and attacking others for what you are doing, or simply attacking with no basis.

Look, I know as someone who disagreed with Obama for 8 years and who is a total conservative I have no "friends" if you will on here, but I have grown so weary of general condemnation, total lack of interest in facts, and interest in ONLY himself.

Enjoy reading his posts, and someday share what you learn...I really would love to hear that. He searches for any link to punish "progressives" no matter the fact. If you need thatbreinforcement, so be it.

But thanks for a response and now the king and queen can have the floor for their talk down lectures.

Obviously you don't check his sources or reliability, nor does his name calling, albeit with great grammar, bother you.

I don't imagine you ever looked to see if his posts might be the problem, rather than my objection ?

I do need to acknowledge your comment on looking in the mirror and seeing traits that you have yourself. I get what you are saying, and can tell you, I, nor I think anybody goes after Rubicon on every thing he says...either today or yesterday I agreed with his comments on Iran. BUT did you ever notice, the ONLY posts he replies to are to attack another. On issues, he NEVER EVER replies to posts. Then I need to look in the mirror. I did, and my old old body and mind, far from perfect is comfortable

[ColdNoMore]

I'm not on here to defend anyone, but since you took the time to respond so completely, I will attempt to do the same. I get so discouraged coming on this forum day after day and seeing Rubicon hammered no matter what he has to say. I enjoy his posts even if they are just opinion at times. Differing opinions give everyone a chance to chew on thoughts that may or may not be like their own, but sometimes you learn something new about the subject or maybe even about the person. I may be wrong, but I did not think that this was a forum where one could only post if they had first verified every word that they wrote. I always thought it was an exchange of thoughts and ideas as relates to politics. I don't have to agree with you and you don't have to agree with me, but we all have the right to speak. And I think we should have that right without being attacked every time we post. It just appears to me, since this continually happens to one poster in particular (Rubicon), that it is more a personal vendetta than a disagreement of opinions.

I had a group of friends some time back, and one person in the group just rubbed me the wrong way. For years, I avoided her because it would bring up uncomfortable feelings, including anger, and I just didn't want to deal with her. Then one day I came to the realization that what I didn't like about her was actually a characteristic I didn't like about myself, but I just wasn't willing to see that in myself for a very long time. Today we talk and it's like we never lost all those years. I'm just saying, that when I feel that obsessed about what another person says whenever they speak, I know it's time for me to look in the mirror. But that's just me, no one else has to agree and that's okay too.

Enjoy your children/grandchildren and the rest of your Easter holiday.

Although Rocky has covered most of the exact points of why your defense of RubiTHECon and Graceless are biased and misplaced, since you pointed out my posts (#60 & #61)...I will also respond.

What you fail to take into account, is Rubicon's constant preaching down from his soapbox to everyone else and then making false statements...without ever backing them up.

While he (and apparently you) believe he is being 'civil,' when you consistently denigrate an entire demographic...that is anything BUT civil.

That I choose to call him a 'con,' is not born from a desire to be mean...it is exactly the method he uses in his bloviating soapbox rants.

When you read the posts from the racists/bigots/misogynists here, myself and a few others will address them but...you will NEVER see a condemnation from Rubi because they share his far right views.

THAT is an issue that should compel someone...to take a hard look at themselves in the mirror.

By the way, Rocky and I are NOT of the same political viewpoint, but I respect him because he gives original (non-plagiarized) opinions and then backs them up with links that he believes proves his point.

And maybe I'm being too harsh on RubiTHECon as far as links, because to the best of my knowledge he has never supplied EVEN ONE...so maybe he just isn't smart enough to know how to do it. :shrug:

May you also have a nice Easter and remainder of the day. :ho:


ColdNoMore :wave:

[Abby10]

Thanks for your post.

Will at least try to be short.

I first noticed Rubicon on here during the campaign, and what got my attention besides his vocabulary was his twisting of facts, no matter how or using what method, and always his total ignoring of posts that were well researched, linked and accurate.

I have no problem with disagreement, but I have a serious problem with lying, avoidance of facts, and attacking others for what you are doing, or simply attacking with no basis.

Look, I know as someone who disagreed with Obama for 8 years and who is a total conservative I have no "friends" if you will on here, but I have grown so weary of general condemnation, total lack of interest in facts, and interest in ONLY himself.

Enjoy reading his posts, and someday share what you learn...I really would love to hear that. He searches for any link to punish "progressives" no matter the fact. If you need thatbreinforcement, so be it.

But thanks for a response and now the king and queen can have the floor for their talk down lectures.

Obviously you don't check his sources or reliability, nor does his name calling, albeit with great grammar, bother you.

I don't imagine you ever looked to see if his posts might be the problem, rather than my objection ?

I do need to acknowledge your comment on looking in the mirror and seeing traits that you have yourself. I get what you are saying, and can tell you, I, nor I think anybody goes after Rubicon on every thing he says...either today or yesterday I agreed with his comments on Iran. BUT did you ever notice, the ONLY posts he replies to are to attack another. On issues, he NEVER EVER replies to posts. Then I need to look in the mirror. I did, and my old old body and mind, far from perfect is comfortable

I hear all that you are saying and appreciate that you even responded. You certainly were not the only one I had in mind when I made my original comment and as I said it goes both ways on this forum, the attacking, the name calling, etc. It gets old after awhile. I do appreciate that at least you don't take the path of some on here which can be downright ugly.

Anyway, you were wrong about one thing.......for what it's worth, you do have a friend on this forum :) I too consider myself a conservative, but even conservatives can have their differences at times.

[ColdNoMore]

Dear Deepest Sincere Wishes:

What I can say in all honesty ,sincerity and factually about you is that you are consistently and remarkably ineffective in your analysis.

In one sentence Iran is by far a greater concern than Syria and North Korea combined. I am not gong to do your homework check it out yourself but I'll offer some clues.

1) the agreement between United States and Iran is inherently and dangerously flawed allowing them carte blanche, so that Iran doesn't even have to break the agreement and can achieve more in the open than Syria and North Korea can under the shadow of darkness.

2) Unlike Syria and North Korea and their allies Iran is the largest sponsor of terrorism in the world and openly stated it would destroy another nation, Israel

3) because of the situation described in #2 Netanyahu believes Iran is 50 times more dangerous than North Korea and he said many more times than Syria... Now stop and think. If Iran goes to war with Israel what would America's position be?

Deep sincere wishes you may not always be right but you are always" Deep Sincere Wishes" Please share this post with your tag team partner( ie speak among yourselves)

Personal Best Regards:

Oh look, ANOTHER CASE OF RubiTHECon plagiarizing an opinion piece...without giving credit to the source. :oops:

Iran Is a Bigger Threat Than Syria and North Korea Combined - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-is-a-bigger-threat-than-syria-and-north-korea-combined-1492210411)

In the first paragraph, it is almost word-for-word...to what 'The Con' posted. :ohdear:

Now, which of you posters still think...that Rubi is so smart? :1rotfl:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Abby10]

Although Rocky has covered most of the exact points of why your defense of RubiTHECon and Graceless are biased and misplaced, since you pointed out my posts (#60 & #61)...I will also respond.

What you fail to take into account, is Rubicon's constant preaching down from his soapbox to everyone else and then making false statements...without ever backing them up.

While he (and apparently you) believe he is being 'civil,' when you consistently denigrate an entire demographic...that is anything BUT civil.

That I choose to call him a 'con,' is not born from a desire to be mean...it is exactly the method he uses in his bloviating soapbox rants.

When you read the posts from the racists/bigots/misogynists here, myself and a few others will address them but...you will NEVER see a condemnation from Rubi because they share his far right views.

THAT is an issue that should compel someone...to take a hard look at themselves in the mirror.

By the way, Rocky and I are NOT of the same political viewpoint, but I respect him because he gives original (non-plagiarized) opinions and then backs them up with links that he believes proves his point.

And maybe I'm being too harsh on RubiTHECon as far as links, because to the best of my knowledge he has never supplied EVEN ONE...so maybe he just isn't smart enough to know how to do it. :shrug:

May you also have a nice Easter and remainder of the day. :ho:


ColdNoMore :wave:

Thanks for your reply. I don't know about biased and misplaced as I know neither of the 2 you speak of other than from this forum. It could actually be 2 other people on this forum, it really wouldn't matter. The question I have is why so much, as you put it, harshness toward either one or both? So you don't like what they say, or you don't agree with their opinion, or you believe they are liars, whatever. Why the need to attack each and every post? Why not just ignore it if it bothers you so much? I don't think anyone on here needs another person, be it you, me, or someone else, to tell them how to think about another person and/or their post. But you seem to think it necessary to call certain people out constantly and sometimes in a very ugly way. I know I may be hoping for the impossible, but it would be nice if when we disagree we could do it in a fashion that is not again, as you say, so harsh. I often wonder when I see the numbers of people who actually view this forum, if the reason so few actually post is because they fear being called out - for not linking, or being a Trump supporter, or not being well read in the eyes of another poster.

Anyway, again, I thank you for taking the time to reply and for the kind words at the end. I hope you had an enjoyable Easter as well.....which makes me think, what the heck are we doing on here?? :wave:

[ColdNoMore]

I also noticed, while he does have a great vocabulary, the words sounded familiar to me. So I posted TWICE flagrant violations of PLAGARISM on his part. In both cases, word for word and posted as his. Could be he forgot to link it, or say it, but when I called him on it, he never said a word. A few days ago, he did it again, although this time he changed just a few words from a Boston Globe story on Wellsley.

When not plagiarizing his main theme is to attack "progressives".


And he just keeps on plagiarizing and fooling people into thinking he's intelligent...when he's really nothing but a pseudo-intellectual. :ohdear:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1387280-post68.html




Pseudointellectual | Definition of Pseudointellectual by Merriam-Webster (https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/pseudointellectual)
Definition of pseudo-intellectual

: a person who wants to be thought of as having a lot of intelligence and knowledge but who is not really intelligent or knowledgeable

[ColdNoMore]

Thanks for your reply. I don't know about biased and misplaced as I know neither of the 2 you speak of other than from this forum. It could actually be 2 other people on this forum, it really wouldn't matter. The question I have is why so much, as you put it, harshness toward either one or both? So you don't like what they say, or you don't agree with their opinion, or you believe they are liars, whatever. Why the need to attack each and every post? Why not just ignore it if it bothers you so much? I don't think anyone on here needs another person, be it you, me, or someone else, to tell them how to think about another person and/or their post. But you seem to think it necessary to call certain people out constantly and sometimes in a very ugly way. I know I may be hoping for the impossible, but it would be nice if when we disagree we could do it in a fashion that is not again, as you say, so harsh. I often wonder when I see the numbers of people who actually view this forum, if the reason so few actually post is because they fear being called out - for not linking, or being a Trump supporter, or not being well read in the eyes of another poster.

Anyway, again, I thank you for taking the time to reply and for the kind words at the end. I hope you had an enjoyable Easter as well.....which makes me think, what the heck are we doing on here?? :wave:

Since you don't have the history here and apparently haven't seen the constant attacks that come my way...you ask some very valid questions.

Let me just say...that I only give what I get. :D

Since you have shown a willingness to post with respect and decency, I will, as with others who do the same...reciprocate. :thumbup:

And if you aren't aware, you can start determining what people are like by hitting the 'quote' button in any post, scroll all the way down...and the last 10 posters user names will show next to their post.

So when you see me called the 'C' word (without EVER a condemnation from people like GG, who claim a supposed moral superiority :oops: )...you'll maybe understand my responses a little better. :ho:

Post #51 in this thread...being the perfect example.

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/1386993-post51.html



Take care and have a great evening. :)

[Rockyrd]

Oh look, ANOTHER CASE OF RubiTHECon plagiarizing an opinion piece...without giving credit to the source. :oops:

Iran Is a Bigger Threat Than Syria and North Korea Combined - WSJ (https://www.wsj.com/articles/iran-is-a-bigger-threat-than-syria-and-north-korea-combined-1492210411)

In the first paragraph, it is almost word-for-word...to what 'The Con' posted. :ohdear:

Now, which of you posters still think...that Rubi is so smart? :1rotfl:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

I tried to make this point but to no avail.

Plagarism in any form is LYING.

When you read this man's post, in many cases, they are not his words. That is simply lying and posting under false pretense.

In addition, we get lectures from he and Gracie about conformity to the rules. PLAGARISM is against the rules, and is stealing from the real source.

I was asked to look in the mirror. I do not plagerize and I do not steal, yet I am to look in the mirror.

Yes, perhaps ignoring this would make Rubicon and Graciegirl happy, but that is dishonest.

To Abby, who was at least non judgemental, this is a regular course for these two, and I suppose it could be ignored, but why ?

Are we to give people some sort of break and for what reason.

If I plagerize or tell a lie, you should call me on it and right away.

I have been stewing in this and asking why in the world should someone be able to do this and I, and others, asked to back off or examine our actions.

Rubicon, NOT ME, steals by plagiarizing.

Rubicon, not me then lectures me and others in following rules. What rules is he referring to.

I also expect if you want to make a case, you research and share your information for others to see.

[ColdNoMore]

I tried to make this point but to no avail.

Plagarism in any form is LYING.

When you read this man's post, in many cases, they are not his words. That is simply lying and posting under false pretense.

In addition, we get lectures from he and Gracie about conformity to the rules. PLAGARISM is against the rules, and is stealing from the real source.

I was asked to look in the mirror. I do not plagerize and I do not steal, yet I am to look in the mirror.

Yes, perhaps ignoring this would make Rubicon and Graciegirl happy, but that is dishonest.

To Abby, who was at least non judgemental, this is a regular course for these two, and I suppose it could be ignored, but why ?

Are we to give people some sort of break and for what reason.

If I plagerize or tell a lie, you should call me on it and right away.

I have been stewing in this and asking why in the world should someone be able to do this and I, and others, asked to back off or examine our actions.

Rubicon, NOT ME, steals by plagiarizing.

Rubicon, not me then lectures me and others in following rules. What rules is he referring to.

I also expect if you want to make a case, you research and share your information for others to see.

They are simply hypocritical fakes.

You know it, I know it, a few others know it and most importantly...THEY know it. :ohdear:

We can't really expect honesty and decency from those who exemplify the opposite...but that doesn't mean we can't call it out when it occurs.

[MDLNB]

I tried to make this point but to no avail.

Plagarism in any form is LYING.

When you read this man's post, in many cases, they are not his words. That is simply lying and posting under false pretense.

In addition, we get lectures from he and Gracie about conformity to the rules. PLAGARISM is against the rules, and is stealing from the real source.

I was asked to look in the mirror. I do not plagerize and I do not steal, yet I am to look in the mirror.

Yes, perhaps ignoring this would make Rubicon and Graciegirl happy, but that is dishonest.

To Abby, who was at least non judgemental, this is a regular course for these two, and I suppose it could be ignored, but why ?

Are we to give people some sort of break and for what reason.

If I plagerize or tell a lie, you should call me on it and right away.

I have been stewing in this and asking why in the world should someone be able to do this and I, and others, asked to back off or examine our actions.

Rubicon, NOT ME, steals by plagiarizing.

Rubicon, not me then lectures me and others in following rules. What rules is he referring to.

I also expect if you want to make a case, you research and share your information for others to see.

And on a forum, does anyone really care? Is this your only contribution? You lefties are more concerned about the manner something is presented than with the content. Maybe, it's because you have no substance to back your argument?

[Don Baldwin]

And on a forum, does anyone really care? Is this your only contribution? You lefties are more concerned about the manner something is presented than with the content. Maybe, it's because you have no substance to back your argument?

Yup...

[Rockyrd]

Today, the Vice President said...""[T]he era of strategic patience is over," while visiting South Korea.

He intimidated that the ball is in China's corner relative to this problem. And I assume that our fleet is there because the time frame is short.

Lots of bad things can happen here....LOTS....but hopefully China can pull this off.

I did a little bit of investigation to see what the relationship is between China and North Korea.

They have been allies for years but the relationship is a bit strained now......

"There have been unconfirmed reports that China has moved up to 150,000 troops to its border with North Korea, which Beijing has called "pure fabrication". But on Friday, China did suddenly suspend flights between Beijing and Pyongyang without offering any explanation.

Whether China is preparing to intervene in Korea once again, preparing to manage the fallout of a US intervention in Korea, or just playing it safe, nobody knows."

Will China intervene in North Korea? | North Korea | Al Jazeera (http://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/opinion/2017/04/170415110614281.html)

In the meantime, Russia joins the fray....

"China and Russia have dispatched spy vessels to shadow Donald Trump’s ‘armada’ as it steams to North Korean waters, amid rising tensions over Pyongyang’s nuclear ambitions.

Japanese media reported the deployment as Mike Pence, the US vice president, warned Pyongyang the “era of strategic patience is over” during a visit to South Korea.

Beijing sought Russian help in averting a crisis over North Korea last week, as concerns grow in China that Donald Trump is seeking to confront North Korea over its weapon’s program."

"Pointing to Mr Trump’s recent military actions in Syria and Afghanistan, he said: "North Korea would do well not to test his resolve.”

Mr Pence also joined South Korean acting President Hwang Kyo-ahn in reaffirming their plans for the deployment in South Korea of a US anti-missile system, known as THAAD.

China and Russia dispatch ships to shadow Donald Trump’s 'armada' as it approaches North Korean waters - Japanese media report (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/04/17/china-russia-dispatch-ships-shadow-donald-trumps-armada-approaches/)

HOWEVER, China has to play both sides here.....

"A Chinese Foreign Ministry spokesman immediately voiced Beijing’s opposition to the missiles, which China claims is a threat to its own security interests.

The vice president also said Mr Trump was hoping China would use its "extraordinary levers" to pressure the North.

However, a report by Bloomberg said Beijing’s leaders had been snubbed when requesting to meet with North Korean officials.

“Pyongyang didn’t respond to requests from China Foreign Minister Wang Yi and Wu Dawei, the country’s top envoy for North Korean nuclear affairs, to meet with their North Korean counterparts,” the report said.

Seems a bit "hairy" in that area now and on the assumption that the time frame is short.....but the North Korean also...

"Saturday’s event saw the North unveil a special forces unit who were "wearing black camouflage cream on their faces and black sunglasses”, South Korea’s Yonhap news agency said.

“They were carrying a new type of rifle installed with grenade launchers,” it said, adding that it may have been set up to counter a potential US "beheading" operation to take out Pyongyang's leadership.

The US counterterrorism unit best known for removing Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in May 2011 were reported to have been involved in recent drills in South Korea.

But observers believe President Trump has little room for manoeuvre over North Korea, given the military deterrent Kim Jong-un’s regime has at its disposal.

It seems "something" has to give......looking for opinions based on this assumption...

Any move by the US militarily will certainly bring a response of perhaps nuclear arms, which "could be" a lot of lives in South Korea or Japan or based on the reaction that N Korea had to China, perhaps in China.

North Korea seems ready to "rock and roll".

It does not appear we are going to back off, and obviously we will not use nuclear weaponery. But it does appear we have to do something now. It now involves a few other countries with nukes (Russia, China) and that alone is a bit scary. Even a momentary lapse in judgement or understanding could be fatal.

This is what North Korea has hoped for.....ATTENTION, and now they got it. I just cannot imagine them allowing this attention to just fade away.

[dirtbanker]

It seems "something" has to give......looking for opinions based on this assumption...

Any move by the US militarily will certainly bring a response of perhaps nuclear arms, which "could be" a lot of lives in South Korea or Japan or based on the reaction that N Korea had to China, perhaps in China.

North Korea seems ready to "rock and roll".

It does not appear we are going to back off, and obviously we will not use nuclear weaponery. But it does appear we have to do something now. It now involves a few other countries with nukes (Russia, China) and that alone is a bit scary. Even a momentary lapse in judgement or understanding could be fatal.

This is what North Korea has hoped for.....ATTENTION, and now they got it. I just cannot imagine them allowing this attention to just fade away.

You mean "looking for agreeing opinions on my assumption based on what I think you need to read".

What's scary is your just realized any lapse in judgement toward foreign affairs could be fatal...in the 50 years you have so called been active in the political arena, when was that not the case?

Last week you felt we needed to bomb Syria and this week we have given N Korea too much ATTENTION...

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