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jebartle
04-14-2017, 03:43 PM
Does anyone else find this very suspicious??????

Rockyrd
04-14-2017, 03:57 PM
Does anyone else find this very suspicious??????


Not sure at this point about "suspicious" but certanly it is very curious for a man who talked so much about transparency.

Adding this to not releasing tax returns, not really separating from businesses, etc do not a transparent White House make.

I will tell you.....seen others try these games...they always backfire in time

dirtbanker
04-14-2017, 04:37 PM
Does anyone else find this very suspicious??????

I don't find it suspicious at all. Maybe bad people are visitng...

I was more suspicious about the woman with a child that demanded to see the president, and after being denied she tried to crash thru the white house gate, and then she fled, they chased her down, and a few miles away the woman was shot dead. She was unarmed. That was during Obamma's presidency. I wonder what happened to the child...

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MDLNB
04-14-2017, 06:45 PM
Obama was the supposed "TRANSPARENT" one. He is the one that wanted to make the guest log in at the WH availible. Then he could not walk it back when it came back to bite him in the @ss. Like Trump's taxes, just because some wannabe community organizer with no job experience did something a certain way, does not make it a rule. It's no one's business how Trump does this. You libtards are a nosy lot and need to go to your safe space and cry some more.

Rockyrd
04-14-2017, 07:02 PM
Obama was the supposed "TRANSPARENT" one. He is the one that wanted to make the guest log in at the WH availible. Then he could not walk it back when it came back to bite him in the @ss. Like Trump's taxes, just because some wannabe community organizer with no job experience did something a certain way, does not make it a rule. It's no one's business how Trump does this. You libtards are a nosy lot and need to go to your safe space and cry some more.

Your total and complete obsession with Obama is very tiring.

You do not seem to be able to discuss anything with calling his name or that of Clinton.

Grow up and get in the present day

ColdNoMore
04-14-2017, 07:22 PM
Your total and complete obsession with Obama is very tiring.

You do not seem to be able to discuss anything with calling his name or that of Clinton.

Grow up and get in the present day

You would have more success asking the sun to quit shining and go dark, than getting MOCPD (Multiple Obsessive Compulsive Posting Disorder) to stop always answering criticisms of the Narcissistic Sociopath....with Obama/Clinton, this or that. :blahblahblah:...:blahblahblah:

MDLNB
04-15-2017, 04:29 AM
Your total and complete obsession with Obama is very tiring.

You do not seem to be able to discuss anything with calling his name or that of Clinton.

Grow up and get in the present day

Your stupidity is "very tiring. " Who was it that is causing you libtards the basis for your consternation? Obama. It is his fault, not mine that you think that the gov is supposed to be so transparent. He is the one that ran on transparency, not Trump.

Your obsession with looking for ANY flaw in your president is childish.

Grow up.

rubicon
04-15-2017, 04:59 AM
Why would the Trump administration not make the White House Visitors Log Available? Hmmm

Couldn't be because every psycho in America has threatened the life of Trump, his family and/or anyone wearing a Trump sweatshirt or Make America Great Again hat or in any way or fashion connected to Trump,his family or Business.

Couldn't be because Trump recognizes the press continues to spin a false and vicious narrative about Trump the man, the businessman, the president, the husband,his family, his friends and his supporters.

Couldn't be because the radical progressives (Obama holdovers) still in Washington continue to act like a virus that infects a computer to stop Trump's agenda

Couldn't be that Trump is concerned that there have been so many leaks, again Obama holdovers that he has a concern for security.

Oh you say Obama made the log available for public scrutiny. Hmm but the fine print at the bottom left him the right to chose what names became public and what names remained private. Besides Obama adoration by the press would always provide cover.
I mean who other than the press would spin a story that a dignitary and great statesman such as Al Sharpton graced the White House on several occasions.

Trump Derangement Syndrome appears to have the same staying power as Lyme disease . I suspect to hear shortly from CNN that even though the logs have gone dark one of their reporters can confirm unequivocally that Putin has been visiting the White House in secret for weeks now.

Personal Best Regards:

rubicon
04-15-2017, 05:49 AM
what is with whiteyu house visitor list secrecy????

Copied and pasted the title to this thread "whiteyu".. gosh you don't suppose with that depiction of the White House that any bias has entered the OP's thinking.

Naw progressives are open minded folks and have the patience, understanding, objectivity and fairness to provide an opportunity for this Administration to prove itself and they will do so without resistance and in full support in order to Make America Great Again.

Let's see GOP is the party of "No"

Yet, rumor has it the Democratic Party has been labeled the party of "Hell No":D Progressives you got to love them

Personal Best Regards:

MDLNB
04-15-2017, 07:02 AM
what is with whiteyu house visitor list secrecy????

Copied and pasted the title to this thread "whiteyu".. gosh you don't suppose with that depiction of the White House that any bias has entered the OP's thinking.

Naw progressives are open minded folks and have the patience, understanding, objectivity and fairness to provide an opportunity for this Administration to prove itself and they will do so without resistance and in full support in order to Make America Great Again.

Let's see GOP is the party of "No"

Yet, rumor has it the Democratic Party has been labeled the party of "Hell No":D Progressives you got to love them

Personal Best Regards:

:agree:

Leftards have no tolerance for National Security. Top Secret to them means, it's supposed to be released to the liberal media only.

wjboyer1
04-15-2017, 02:24 PM
obama was the supposed "transparent" one. He is the one that wanted to make the guest log in at the wh availible. Then he could not walk it back when it came back to bite him in the @ss. Like trump's taxes, just because some wannabe community organizer with no job experience did something a certain way, does not make it a rule. It's no one's business how trump does this. You libtards are a nosy lot and need to go to your safe space and cry some more.
67766

MDLNB
04-16-2017, 08:56 AM
67766

How many years did you libtards AND Obie blame and complain Bush for everything that bothered them?

Like they say, turnabout is fair play. In this case, the blame on Obama is valid.

Rockyrd
04-16-2017, 02:47 PM
what is with whiteyu house visitor list secrecy????

Copied and pasted the title to this thread "whiteyu".. gosh you don't suppose with that depiction of the White House that any bias has entered the OP's thinking.

Naw progressives are open minded folks and have the patience, understanding, objectivity and fairness to provide an opportunity for this Administration to prove itself and they will do so without resistance and in full support in order to Make America Great Again.

Let's see GOP is the party of "No"

Yet, rumor has it the Democratic Party has been labeled the party of "Hell No":D Progressives you got to love them

Personal Best Regards:

This okay with you superior folks ?

"WASHINGTON — President Trump is populating the White House and federal agencies with former lobbyists, lawyers and consultants who in many cases are helping to craft new policies for the same industries in which they recently earned a paycheck.

The potential conflicts are arising across the executive branch, according to an analysis of recently released financial disclosures, lobbying records and interviews with current and former ethics officials by The New York Times in collaboration with ProPublica.

In at least two cases, the appointments may have already led to violations of the administration’s own ethics rules. But evaluating if and when such violations have occurred has become almost impossible because the Trump administration is secretly issuing waivers to the rules."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/us/politics/trump-appointees-potential-conflicts.html?_r=0

Taltarzac725
04-16-2017, 03:16 PM
Did not Trump promise transparency in DC if he were elected???

Donald Trump is setting a new standard for lack of transparency - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/13/donald-trump-is-setting-a-new-standard-for-lack-of-transparency/?utm_term=.0ee9366ffb92)

wjboyer1
04-16-2017, 03:58 PM
:agree:

Leftards have no tolerance for National Security. Top Secret to them means, it's supposed to be released to the liberal media only.

The latest news is that Mr. Trump will not routinely release White House visitor records, as Mr. Obama did. The White House cited “grave national security risks and privacy concerns.” The former is not persuasive, since a national security exception was built into the policy. So Mr. Trump must argue that his right to privacy, or that of the lobbyists coming to see him, outweighs the public’s interest in knowing who is getting an audience. We don’t find that persuasive, either.

Abby10
04-16-2017, 04:31 PM
Does anyone else find this very suspicious??????


I guess it depends on what your twist on this is. Yes, apparently Obama did release SOME of the names on the visitor list when he was President, but not all, and it was at his discretion as to who he allowed to be released. Now, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to Obama's presidency I believe it was not a common thing to release this list to the public at all. In Trump's case I can see that with all the mass hysteria going on over his presidency that he might want to keep the list confidential for the sake of his visitors safety. Personally, I think this is a non-issue, but it seems as if people and the media want to make an issue of just about anything these days.

Rockyrd
04-16-2017, 04:43 PM
I guess it depends on what your twist on this is. Yes, apparently Obama did release SOME of the names on the visitor list when he was President, but not all, and it was at his discretion as to who he allowed to be released. Now, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to Obama's presidency I believe it was not a common thing to release this list to the public at all. In Trump's case I can see that with all the mass hysteria going on over his presidency that he might want to keep the list confidential for the sake of his visitors safety. Personally, I think this is a non-issue, but it seems as if people and the media want to make an issue of just about anything these days.

"In at least two cases, the appointments may have already led to violations of the administration’s own ethics rules. But evaluating if and when such violations have occurred has become almost impossible because the Trump administration is secretly issuing waivers to the rules."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/us/politics/trump-appointees-potential-conflicts.html?_r=1

This needs to be read. Lobbyists are taking over and we are allowing it to happen Secretly

Abby10
04-16-2017, 06:25 PM
I guess it depends on what your twist on this is. Yes, apparently Obama did release SOME of the names on the visitor list when he was President, but not all, and it was at his discretion as to who he allowed to be released. Now, someone can correct me if I'm wrong, but prior to Obama's presidency I believe it was not a common thing to release this list to the public at all. In Trump's case I can see that with all the mass hysteria going on over his presidency that he might want to keep the list confidential for the sake of his visitors safety. Personally, I think this is a non-issue, but it seems as if people and the media want to make an issue of just about anything these days.

"In at least two cases, the appointments may have already led to violations of the administration’s own ethics rules. But evaluating if and when such violations have occurred has become almost impossible because the Trump administration is secretly issuing waivers to the rules."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/04/15/us/politics/trump-appointees-potential-conflicts.html?_r=1

This needs to be read. Lobbyists are taking over and we are allowing it to happen Secretly

Thanks for the link. Have a couple of questions but want to review more info before responding. Again, thanks.

Rockyrd
04-16-2017, 07:53 PM
[QUOTE=Guest]

Thanks for the link. Have a couple of questions but want to review more info before responding. Again, thanks.

Add this to you reading. Everything is just either a secret or reversal of the campaign.

"CIA Director Mike Pompeo slammed WikiLeaks as a “non-state hostile intelligence service” Thursday, but during the presidential campaign, he and now-President Donald Trump were all but singing the organization’s praises.

Pompeo declared it is, “time to call out WikiLeaks for what it really is -- a non-state hostile intelligence service often abetted by state actors like Russia,” a stark departure from comments he and Mr. Trump made months earlier, after WikiLeaks released thousands of emails revealing the inner-workings and woes of the Democratic National Committee. Pompeo on Thursday also accused WikiLeaks of collaborating with the Russian government -- a government Mr. Trump has hesitated to criticize -- to push out information with the agenda of weakening western democracies. "

Pompeo slams WikiLeaks, but he and Trump tweeted praise of WikiLeaks during campaign - CBS News (http://www.cbsnews.com/news/pompeo-slams-wikileaks-but-he-and-trump-tweeted-praise-of-wikileaks-during-campaign/)

dirtbanker
04-16-2017, 07:56 PM
Why don't you get Abby10's email, you can send her all those bolded paragraphs of the things you feel she "must" read. Thanks!

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rubicon
04-17-2017, 04:02 AM
Did not Trump promise transparency in DC if he were elected???

Donald Trump is setting a new standard for lack of transparency - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/05/13/donald-trump-is-setting-a-new-standard-for-lack-of-transparency/?utm_term=.0ee9366ffb92)

did not Trump promise transparency demands the main street media as it continues its false and slanderous narrative against Trump an his family. :D

MDLNB
04-17-2017, 06:34 AM
The latest news is that Mr. Trump will not routinely release White House visitor records, as Mr. Obama did. The White House cited “grave national security risks and privacy concerns.” The former is not persuasive, since a national security exception was built into the policy. So Mr. Trump must argue that his right to privacy, or that of the lobbyists coming to see him, outweighs the public’s interest in knowing who is getting an audience. We don’t find that persuasive, either.

Other than nosy busybodies, who cares? Obama did a lot of anti-American things that were radical and not normal. Our government has secrets and it is in the interest of National Security. It is none of anyone's business how the sausage is made in our gov, unless it appears to be legitimately corrupt and not just innuendos.

Taltarzac725
04-17-2017, 07:11 AM
did not Trump promise transparency demands the main street media as it continues its false and slanderous narrative against Trump an his family. :D

How is any of that slanderous? It is true!!