I Can't Remember Being This Heated

[Nucky]

I'm ****ed off. What the **** is this world coming to. First people don't stand to salute the flag then the one and only TV personality that I have followed since I can remember gets snagged for political correctness reasons from his spineless employer. Listen, everyone has rites, that includes me. I hope Mr. Bill O'Reilly sues everyone who is involved balls off. He is an old school dude who preaches many good thing and I can't imagine him being a wolf in sheep's clothing. And if you disagree with me kiss my ass cause I don't give a hoot about your opinion on this unless you align with me. So stuff it.

[graciegirl]

I'm ****ed off. What the **** is this world coming to. First people don't stand to salute the flag then the one and only TV personality that I have followed since I can remember gets snagged for political correctness reasons from his spineless employer. Listen, everyone has rites, that includes me. I hope Mr. Bill O'Reilly sues everyone who is involved balls off. He is an old school dude who preaches many good thing and I can't imagine him being a wolf in sheep's clothing. And if you disagree with me kiss my ass cause I don't give a hoot about your opinion on this unless you align with me. So stuff it.

I do agree with you. I am so glad it is you, I thought I was going to have to agree with someone I didn't like.

I think that someone looked on the wealthy Mr. O Reilly as an opportunity to make some dough. He is single, widowed now for several years. He is allowed to make overtures toward women. There is more to this than we know. My money's on Bill.

This is Grace Gantner. Love to you and your wife.

[Rockyrd]

I do agree with you. I am so glad it is you, I thought I was going to have to agree with someone I didn't like.

I think that someone looked on the wealthy Mr. O Reilly as an opportunity to make some dough. He is single, widowed now for several years. He is allowed to make overtures toward women. There is more to this than we know. My money's on Bill.

This is Grace Gantner. Love to you and your wife.

So, if you KNOW he is innocent, you should offer up as a witness.

Otherwise, you are condoning sexual harassment in the workplace.

I don't know, but seems guys who have women report them to the personnel department after asking them to stop and need to resort to suing...well, let's say.....i cannot condone that kind of actions anywhere I ever worked. I assume you know that the last two women are Not asking for money.

Why do you feel he is innocent ? Based on what ?

I assume you feel this is another "progressive" plot. The condemnation of people on here with zero facts is staggering, but hey one of the woman was black.

[dbussone]

So, if you KNOW he is innocent, you should offer up as a witness.

Otherwise, you are condoning sexual harassment in the workplace.

I don't know, but seems guys who have women report them to the personnel department after asking them to stop and need to resort to suing...well, let's say.....i cannot condone that kind of actions anywhere I ever worked. I assume you know that the last two women are Not asking for money.

Why do you feel he is innocent ? Based on what ?

I assume you feel this is another "progressive" plot. The condemnation of people on here with zero facts is staggering, but hey one of the woman was black.



How do you know he isn't innocent? Based on what? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? And the last 2 women aren't asking for money YET.

I don't condone harassment either. I'm with Nucky and Gracie on this one.


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[cologal]

I think it would be best to take a look that they whole picture here. This is NOT the 1st time this has come up with Mr. O'Reilly. Why would Fox kill the number 1 rated show on the basis of 1 woman's account. They would would not!

Do some research on this one!

[graciegirl]

I think it would be best to take a look that they whole picture here. This is NOT the 1st time this has come up with Mr. O'Reilly. Why would Fox kill the number 1 rated show on the basis of 1 woman's account. They would would not!

Do some research on this one!

Gloria is very good at what she does?

[Rockyrd]

How do you know he isn't innocent? Based on what? What happened to innocent until proven guilty? And the last 2 women aren't asking for money YET.

I don't condone harassment either. I'm with Nucky and Gracie on this one.


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I absolutely have no idea if guilty or not.

I only know what you know.....at least..maybe you know more...

He and Fox settled FIVE...FIVE charges over FIFTEEN YEARS...15 MILLION DOLLARS THEY PAID in exchange and this is their words....FOX...for the women's silence.

The sixth would not settle nor shut up it seems, and then this week the SEVENTH WOMAN came forward.

In 2004 he was all over the New York papers in yet another sexual harrassment charge.

He also but unrelated has had a time with inconsistencies with his resume.

So, no....I do not know whether he is guilty but you add it up...what company allows and will pay out 15 million dollars to silence the accuser, and then has two more come forward, with a incident 13 year ago also looming. Would you still have your job?

[ColdNoMore]

With as many lawsuits, for as much money, as have been settled regarding his behavior...I'm surprised he wasn't fired before now. :shrug:

I guess Faux News figured that as long as he was making them money, it was worth looking the other way and swallowing any pretense at integrity that they might try to portray.

Once the advertisers had enough...now all of a sudden so has Faux News?

NOT a coincidence.

[dbussone]

With as many lawsuits, for as much money, as have been settled regarding his behavior...I'm surprised he wasn't fired before now. :shrug:



I guess Faux News figured that as long as he was making them money, it was worth looking the other way and swallowing any pretense at integrity that they might try to portray.



Once the advertisers had enough...now all of a sudden so has Faux News?



NOT a coincidence.



Come on CNM. That's just supposition and you know it.


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[ColdNoMore]

Come on CNM. That's just supposition and you know it.


A few questions for you.

1. Do you believe a business like Fox, has the right to determine who they put on the air?

2. Do you believe advertisers have the right to spend their money...in the manner they see fit?

3. Do you think those same advertisers (who gladly spent money previously, in spite of O'Really's controversial politics) would run away...if they weren't convinced that something was very wrong?

Keep in mind, we're not talking about criminal charges or legal ramifications...just simple business decisions.

This, in a nutshell...is capitalism at work.

Are you really against a company...being able to make these kinds of business decisions?

Especially since YOU have the right to show your disagreement...by not watching Fox.

Pretty simple really. :shrug:

[dbussone]

A few questions for you.

1. Do you believe a business like Fox, has the right to determine who they put on the air?

YES

2. Do you believe advertisers have the right to spend their money...in the manner they see fit?

YES

3. Do you think those same advertisers (who gladly spent money previously, in spite of O'Really's controversial politics) would run away...if they weren't convinced that something was very wrong?

YES, we have become way too PC. As a former exec I can tell you this for certain.

Keep in mind, we're not talking about criminal charges or legal ramifications...just simple business decisions.

This, in a nutshell...is capitalism at work.

Are you really against a company...being able to make these kinds of business decisions?

Especially since YOU have the right to show your disagreement...by not watching Fox.

Pretty simple really. :shrug:






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[Chi-Town]

Time for an O'Reilly tribute.....

Bill O'Reilly WAS FIRED "Tribute" - YouTube (https://youtu.be/w1GGNGuo0ac)

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[ColdNoMore]

YES

YES

YES, we have become way too PC. As a former exec I can tell you this for certain.

"PC" in many cases, simply means 'manners or decency.'

As a former executive myself (and I bet you'll agree, even if not publicly), in the past people like O'Really were typically always protected...and their victims were attacked as somehow provoking/causing it.

Thank goodness most decent folks have gotten past blaming the victim and just looking the other way...when it comes to sexual harassment/assault (and touching IS assault).

Not to say that there aren't times, that for whatever reason, someone levels charges that are untrue.

HOWEVER, this is far rarer than a dominant company male...being able to get away with pretty much anything they wanted.

We all have mothers, a lot of us have daughters or wives and predators like O'Really...should not be able to get away with what it appears he has done.

How can anyone, regardless of how much you like his show...defend him? :ohdear:

[Nucky]

It's all about the $$ Benjamin's $$. New book Killing Bill O.

[dbussone]

"PC" in many cases, simply means 'manners or decency.'

As a former executive myself (and I bet you'll agree, even if not publicly), in the past people like O'Really were typically always protected...and their victims were attacked as somehow provoking/causing it.

Thank goodness most decent folks have gotten past blaming the victim and just looking the other way...when it comes to sexual harassment/assault (and touching IS assault).

Not to say that there aren't times, that for whatever reason, someone levels charges that are untrue.

HOWEVER, this is far rarer than a dominant company male...being able to get away with pretty much anything they wanted.

We all have mothers, a lot of us have daughters or wives and predators like O'Really...should not be able to get away with what it appears he has done.

How can anyone, regardless of how much you like his show...defend him? :ohdear:



You've already made up your mind by calling him a predator.


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[ColdNoMore]

It's all about the $$ Benjamin's $$. New book Killing Bill O.

It's really all about 'not protecting predators'...regardless of how much some people like them.

[ColdNoMore]

You've already made up your mind by calling him a predator.

And you've already made up your mind that he's completely innocent...based simply on the fact that you like him. :oops:

I'm guessing you are taking the same position...over Roger Ailes?

Fox News Fires Bill O’Reilly Amid Sexual Harassment Storm [Video] (https://www.yahoo.com/tv/fox-news-fires-bill-oreilly-amid-sexual-harassment-storm-183851947.html)


The O’Reilly controversy surfaced as Fox News Channel and its parent continue to grapple with legal matters related to last year’s departure of Roger Ailes, the network’s founder and former CEO. He was ousted in 2016 in the wake of an internal investigation into sexual harassment allegations levied at him by Gretchen Carlson, a former Fox News anchor. The probe by the law firm of Paul, Weiss, Rifkind, Wharton and Garrison, turned up other accusations, all of which Ailes denied.

Fox had to bring in the law firm again after a former female Fox contributor made a new allegation via a corporate hotline put in place to give employees a way to make intolerable workplace conditions known.

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[graciegirl]

Many years ago a neighbors daughter accused her father, her brother in law, and her sisters father in law of sexual abuse.

Then she accused a teacher. He lost his job.

I believed then, and I believe now that none of those men sexually abused her.

I still know the family and thirty five years have passed.

I think that some woman accuse men of sexual harassment and lie to get attention or money.

I don't think it happens a lot, but I think that sometimes women pile on.

[graciegirl]

And you've already made up your mind that he's completely innocent...based simply on the fact that you like him. :oops:

I'm guessing you are taking the same position...over Roger Ailes?

Fox News Fires Bill O’Reilly Amid Sexual Harassment Storm [Video] (https://www.yahoo.com/tv/fox-news-fires-bill-oreilly-amid-sexual-harassment-storm-183851947.html)

You of all people are talking about being respectful of women. I know tons of men who have been annoyed by women but never called them names and lied about them.

[dbussone]

And you've already made up your mind that he's completely innocent...based simply on the fact that you like him. :oops:



I'm guessing you are taking the same position...over Roger Ailes?



Fox News Fires Bill O’Reilly Amid Sexual Harassment Storm [Video] (https://www.yahoo.com/tv/fox-news-fires-bill-oreilly-amid-sexual-harassment-storm-183851947.html)



As I said earlier - innocent until proven guilty. I haven't made up my mind either way. Enough said.


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[jebartle]

The courts will decide! We can kick this can down the road, really doesn't matter what any of us think, ONLY Bill O'Reilly KNOWS and the accusers!

[rubicon]

I'm ****ed off. What the **** is this world coming to. First people don't stand to salute the flag then the one and only TV personality that I have followed since I can remember gets snagged for political correctness reasons from his spineless employer. Listen, everyone has rites, that includes me. I hope Mr. Bill O'Reilly sues everyone who is involved balls off. He is an old school dude who preaches many good thing and I can't imagine him being a wolf in sheep's clothing. And if you disagree with me kiss my ass cause I don't give a hoot about your opinion on this unless you align with me. So stuff it.

As to your disgust concerning the behaviors of many in this nation I totally agree. But I would not defend Bill O'Reilly.

I explained to my wife early on that something was amiss with O'Reilly. On the air he seemed to be too dismissive of women. I explained if that was the way he treated women in front of millions of people then God what was the guy like behind the scenes.

a part of my job was to look into claims of sexual harassment. So as to the allegations against O'Reilly my experiences with those outcomes is "one should not judge".

It could be the allegations are factual. It could be the accusers were over-sensitive. keep in mind what a guy views as flirting a radical feminist would view as a sexual attack. I am not arguing either way because that is the subject for another thread.

As to his firing it simply could be that Fox had enough of the distraction given Ailes, Megan Kelly, etc.

My personal view is O'Reilly was very dismissive of women and that alone would have gotten him in trouble, that and he had far too high an ego both of which caused me not to view his show.

Personal Best Regards:

[ColdNoMore]

You of all people are talking about being respectful of women. I know tons of men who have been annoyed by women but never called them names and lied about them.

:1rotfl:

You will never fvcking get it...will you? :oops:


I "respect" women, by treating them EQUAL...which is the ultimate respect.


YOU on the other hand, want special treatment even when you act...so nasty, passive-aggressive, two-faced and hypocritical. :ohdear:


Sorry to treat you equally...but you're gonna have to live with it:. :D


Anything less, is tantamount to you agreeing with Racist Boy Baldwin...that as a female you're NOT equal.


And of course, I'm talking about as a human being...not based on physical strength.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:. :wave:

[ColdNoMore]

As I said earlier - innocent until proven guilty. I haven't made up my mind either way. Enough said.

That sounds good, except it only seems to apply...to those you like.

There was enough 'proof' unearthed by the law firm of Fox, for Fox to let their #1 cash cow go...how much more proof will it take to change your mind, if any?

[Don Baldwin]

Many years ago a neighbors daughter accused her father, her brother in law, and her sisters father in law of sexual abuse.

Then she accused a teacher. He lost his job.

I believed then, and I believe now that none of those men sexually abused her.

I still know the family and thirty five years have passed.

I think that some woman accuse men of sexual harassment and lie to get attention or money.

I don't think it happens a lot, but I think that sometimes women pile on.

MORE than just some...many falsely accuse. Most "rapes" aren't...they are "screwer's remorse". They let themselves get too drunk and the man took advantage of it. No different than women taking advantage of men. And women DO take advantage of men...drunk or not. If you don't want to have sex...you don't go with Mike Tyson up to his hotel room at 2am. You keep your legs closed and OUT of iffy situations. VERY few "rapes" are a true violent unwanted taking of a woman.

You of all people are talking about being respectful of women. I know tons of men who have been annoyed by women but never called them names and lied about them.

To their face...we talk about you in private...the same way YOU talk about us.

:1rotfl:

You will never fvcking get it...will you? :oops:


I "respect" women, by treating them EQUAL...which is the ultimate respect.


YOU on the other hand, want special treatment even when you act...so nasty, passive-aggressive, two-faced and hypocritical. :ohdear:


Sorry to treat you equally...but you're gonna have to live with it:. :D


Anything less, is tantamount to you agreeing with Racist Boy Baldwin...that as a female you're NOT equal.


And of course, I'm talking about as a human being...not based on physical strength.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:. :wave:

Then you're for eliminating ALL quotas? Raising the standards that have been lowered so they could "qualify"?

It'll be nice to actually HAVE equal treatment and NOT be the VICTIM of discrimination as WE are unjustly passed over because there are quotas.

UNTIL you allow the standards to go BACK to where they were...until you eliminate ALL affirmative action...ALL quotas...ALL you do is PROVE you are NOT equal.

So...you're talking exclusively about WHITE women? You specifically mentioned "human being"...and them being a different species...wouldn't qualify.

BTW...STRENGTH has EVERYTHING to do with it. There are a myriad of things a woman just CAN'T do because of the strength issues. Women aren't ironworkers, steelworkers, pipefitters, don't do much heavy construction at all...because they're physically too weak to do it. Therefore they are/were incapable of creating the modern technological world/civilization we live in.

It's a mans world...because WE built it.

[Chi-Town]

Just to make it official:

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[MDLNB]

:1rotfl:

You will never fvcking get it...will you? :oops:


I "respect" women, by treating them EQUAL...which is the ultimate respect.


YOU on the other hand, want special treatment even when you act...so nasty, passive-aggressive, two-faced and hypocritical. :ohdear:


Sorry to treat you equally...but you're gonna have to live with it:. :D


Anything less, is tantamount to you agreeing with Racist Boy Baldwin...that as a female you're NOT equal.


And of course, I'm talking about as a human being...not based on physical strength.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:. :wave:

Yes, and I have a black friend. You treat women equal? Very WHITE of you. THey ARE your equal, dummy.

[Cedwards38]

Another question:

Would you want your daughters or sisters to work with O'Reilly?

I've got daughters. "Boys will be boys" and "locker room talk" are inappropriate and don't get laughed off in the modern world, thank goodness. I'm glad the advertisers and FOX have the morality to get rid of him.

[MDLNB]

Another question:

Would you want your daughters or sisters to work with O'Reilly?

I've got daughters. "Boys will be boys" and "locker room talk" are inappropriate and don't get laughed off in the modern world, thank goodness. I'm glad the advertisers and FOX have the morality to get rid of him.

Even though I do not like O'Reilly, I would not have any input on who my daughters or sisters work for. I guess a chauvinist would assume the right to demand that their female family members adhere to their wishes.
Morality had nothing to do with FOX dismissing O'Reilly. Money did. FOX was losing advertisers due to the innuendos and accusations. They couldn't afford to keep paying him if the money was not coming in.

And yet, you are a supporter of Hillary Clinton, the wife and defender of Slick Willie's continuing perversion and sexual exploits. Some folks would consider that to be hypocritical.

[Nucky]

There is no doubt that there are minds that are way bigger than mine who have given much thought to such issues like the ones O'Reilley is accused of. Roger Ailes, I was aware he was accused of wrongdoing but didn't care. I'm a very simple guy, easy amused, easy entertained and trying to not be the hot head I have been most of my work life.

I like Archie Bunker, The Munsters, The O'reilly Factor in that order. I'm expected to watch various commercials like RuPaul and men kissing men on Million Dollar Listing and stay quiet but the show that I enjoy the most with Bill O'Reilly loses Bill because of a Chocolate remark? I'm pretty sure he must have done something wrong if that many women put cases on him but don't you think her deserves another chance? If I'm correct it was word's which I know can be as hurtful as action's but enlighten me did he actually put the wood to someone and the story was buried for money? If he is guilty I wouldn't protect him. I am open minded. Were all the other accusers women? How much is really known about the previous cases? If you know give the facts and supporting web sites not your personal SPIN.

I don't come to this forum often but if words being used heavily in the direction of women is a punishable offense then shame on some of our brother posters. I think it's a basic lack of respect for each other that is entwined throughout our society. It is a culture of to hell with everyone and hooray for me.

I shouldn't have posted yesterday until I calmed down. It is what it is. Sean Hannity is next....Oh Baby somebody is coming for him.

[Rockyrd]

There is no doubt that there are minds that are way bigger than mine who have given much thought to such issues like the ones O'Reilley is accused of. Roger Ailes, I was aware he was accused of wrongdoing but didn't care. I'm a very simple guy, easy amused, easy entertained and trying to not be the hot head I have been most of my work life.

I like Archie Bunker, The Munsters, The O'reilly Factor in that order. I'm expected to watch various commercials like RuPaul and men kissing men on Million Dollar Listing and stay quiet but the show that I enjoy the most with Bill O'Reilly loses Bill because of a Chocolate remark? I'm pretty sure he must have done something wrong if that many women put cases on him but don't you think her deserves another chance? If I'm correct it was word's which I know can be as hurtful as action's but enlighten me did he actually put the wood to someone and the story was buried for money? If he is guilty I wouldn't protect him. I am open minded. Were all the other accusers women? How much is really known about the previous cases? If you know give the facts and supporting web sites not your personal SPIN.

I don't come to this forum often but if words being used heavily in the direction of women is a punishable offense then shame on some of our brother posters. I think it's a basic lack of respect for each other that is entwined throughout our society. It is a culture of to hell with everyone and hooray for me.

I shouldn't have posted yesterday until I calmed down. It is what it is. Sean Hannity is next....Oh Baby somebody is coming for him.


ONE persons opinion


"I think you have to look at somebody like Sean Hannity," Peters said, "and question whether or not his almost propaganda-like attitude and programming every night is going to be acceptable in the minds of the family which is clearly trying to shift the network in another direction."

New York Times reporter: Sean Hannity could get caught up in Fox's house cleaning (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/new-york-times-reporter-sean-hannity-could-get-caught-up-in-foxs-house-cleaning/article/2620751)

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I wonder why David Letterman was drummed off the air.

Oh, I forgot, he's a liberal and as such, he's exempt.

[graciegirl]

Wowser!! The entrance on THIS thread of several men I KNOW and respect certainly calms down some of the bad boys.

Some of you frequent posters also posted some wonderful stuff. (Women are equal...and I did like the addition of Dummy to that phrase)

I never felt that issue of women being equal ever had to be discussed in my lifetime. I always felt that I could do whatever it was that I set out to do and the same for my daughters and granddaughters, and we all have.

I believe that women and men are equal but not alike. Men are stronger and smarter sometimes in some areas, women aren't usually as physically big or as strong but we are very intuitive and read non verbal signs about the universe that help us protect our young and the species. We also fight dirty more frequently. Women who are not ethical are to be feared because they have ways of getting what they want in slimy and subversive ways...I would say that is one of their worst qualities sometimes, just like strength used against women is not fair. That is why rules and laws have been made. However cunning women circumvent many laws of the land.

Well now that I have trashed my sisters, I want to applaud my brothers. So glad to see Dr. Boogie, DBussone, Nucky, Just Jim here along with other valuable souls, who I admire. MDNLB...you nail it just about every time... JBoyer...I think you run a business and have an academic background which usually is someone I like.BUT.... I really don't like much of what you post.

I think this thread is the best one on this Forum for a long time. I love sincerity and honor and all of the other good qualities about gentle and kind and strong and successful men.

[Rockyrd]

Wowser!! The entrance on THIS thread of several men I KNOW and respect certainly calms down some of the bad boys.

Some of you frequent posters also posted some wonderful stuff. (Women are equal...and I did like the addition of Dummy to that phrase)

I never felt that issue of women being equal ever had to be discussed in my lifetime. I always felt that I could do whatever it was that I set out to do and the same for my daughters and granddaughters, and we all have.

I believe that women and men are equal but not alike. Men are stronger and smarter sometimes in some areas, women aren't usually as physically big or as strong but we are very intuitive and read non verbal signs about the universe that help us protect our young and the species. We also fight dirty more frequently. Women who are not ethical are to be feared because they have ways of getting what they want in slimy and subversive ways...I would say that is one of their worst qualities sometimes, just like strength used against women is not fair. That is why rules and laws have been made. However cunning women circumvent many laws of the land.

Well now that I have trashed my sisters, I want to applaud my brothers. So glad to see Dr. Boogie, DBussone, Nucky, Just Jim here along with other valuable souls, who I admire. MDNLB...you nail it just about every time... JBoyer...I think you run a business and have an academic background which usually is someone I like.BUT.... I really don't like much of what you post.

I think this thread is the best one on this Forum for a long time. I love sincerity and honor and all of the other good qualities about gentle and kind and strong and successful men.

SO...you support a serial sexual harrasser in the work place ? I mean a lot....he did it and did for a number of years. A teammate from Fox, Kirsten Powers complained a number of times and was told...."you know Bill" and there is nothing we can do. This is not my kind of guy and more and more I see Moral and ethical issues being resolved based on how we feel about Trump. THAT is scary and sad. His abuse goes back many years and you believe that every single woman was lying, presumably because of politics. That thought should scare every woman on the planet.

SO...since his wife also charged him with abuse in divorce, you then support that kind of behavior. ? He also denied that but she got custody and the charge still stands.

How anyone can stand up for a man who is not once doing it but over many years with many women.

And, on here, we praise and we condemn based on our love for Trump....THAT just plain is scary. I will condemn Trump for his morals, but when his policy is on, I say it. You folks have completely gone to the "other side" and simply each issue, do what Trump's biographers said he does.....create your OWN reality and it does not even have to be related to the real thing.

[Nucky]

If you owned a business and the #1 money maker in that business was accused of something wrong and the person who did the accusing took $$$$ money $$$$ instead of justice over the thing that Bill did to her then accept that forever. That case is done. If what he did was so bad why was it settled with $$$$ MONEY $$$$. If it was my Daughter in Law or Granddaughter no amount of money could soothe an actual sexual romp. If it was only words then he was wrong but to fire him was also wrong based on the FACTS supplied so far. I learned that from Bill O'Reilly. He's just an Old School Guy I Think. We Shall See!

[MDLNB]

SO...you support a serial sexual harrasser in the work place ? I mean a lot....he did it and did for a number of years. A teammate from Fox, Kirsten Powers complained a number of times and was told...."you know Bill" and there is nothing we can do. This is not my kind of guy and more and more I see Moral and ethical issues being resolved based on how we feel about Trump. THAT is scary and sad. His abuse goes back many years and you believe that every single woman was lying, presumably because of politics. That thought should scare every woman on the planet.

SO...since his wife also charged him with abuse in divorce, you then support that kind of behavior. ? He also denied that but she got custody and the charge still stands.

How anyone can stand up for a man who is not once doing it but over many years with many women.

And, on here, we praise and we condemn based on our love for Trump....THAT just plain is scary. I will condemn Trump for his morals, but when his policy is on, I say it. You folks have completely gone to the "other side" and simply each issue, do what Trump's biographers said he does.....create your OWN reality and it does not even have to be related to the real thing.

Gotta love it when you liberals use the word "love" or "hate." Those are definites, no hedging, no mucking about.
What makes you so definite that a person that supports the president, also "loves" the president?
Personally, I do not like the man but I do support his ideas. I might like the man IF I was to meet him. I might have liked Obama if I had met him but I would NEVER support his ideology. I believe that Obama was dangerous for America. I believe that Trump has redeeming values in regards to where he wants to take this country.

And so far, Trump has done an excellent job in the short time he has been in office. He must be doing very well considering the only attacks that the left can throw at him are based on his personality, speech, texting, golf, his family, and his appearance. (by the way, he wears very expensive and stylish suits)

Trump has some of the best advisors most could imagine. It does not appear that most of his appointments are past friends or political cronies. It appears that he is choosing successful experts to assist him. Sure, he may have an acquaintance or two in the mix, but his choices have been pretty good. His choice of military leadership is has shown to be great choices.

So, if you think that just because I support the president, that I "love" him, you are nothing more than a liberal simpleton. The people have made a good choice, regardless of his perceived personality flaws.

[Rockyrd]

If you owned a business and the #1 money maker in that business was accused of something wrong and the person who did the accusing took $$$$ money $$$$ instead of justice over the thing that Bill did to her then accept that forever. That case is done. If what he did was so bad why was it settled with $$$$ MONEY $$$$. If it was my Daughter in Law or Granddaughter no amount of money could soothe an actual sexual romp. If it was only words then he was wrong but to fire him was also wrong based on the FACTS supplied so far. I learned that from Bill O'Reilly. He's just an Old School Guy I Think. We Shall See!

You make some valid points.

I have no more information than anyone, but the sheer NUMBER of cases, AND from what I have read instilled an environment that was becoming terrible. Ailes was let go, many others left with one constant theme. I might add, that you have never heard the stories of those who got money because of the NDAs, so we hear ONLY OReilly's EXECPT the last two public accusers have stepped up, and I heard Kirsten Powers speak out.

If this was one person, or even two, but so many over a long period of time is alarming.

I do not think there was any physical things, although until we might hear from the accusers we may never know.

To your analogy...if my daughter was subject to that kind of talk and action, and she did the right hang and went to HR, and they simply told her..."you know Bill"....or there is nothing we can do, and it continued.....which I understand it did, she would be gone, and how many have left there in the last year ? I certainly would have recommended to see HR, and the next time, I might be looking at OReilly face to face.

I cannot accept that any corporation on this planet would allow their female employees to be treated like that, ESPECIALLY after they had complained.

[Chi-Town]

O'Reilly was fired by the Murdochs who own Fox News (after an extensive investigation). The fat lady has sung.

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[Chi-Town]

End of story. $25M exit package.

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[ColdNoMore]

O'Reilly was fired by the Murdochs who own Fox News (after an extensive investigation). The fat lady has sung.


Maybe he and Chump can hang out more now, go buy some tic-tacs...and see what they can grab.

[Taltarzac725]

Maybe he and Chump can hang out more now, go buy some tic-tacs...and see what they can grab.

They are both laughing all the way to the banks.

[Chi-Town]

Maybe he and Chump can hang out more now, go buy some tic-tacs...and see what they can grab.
O'Reilly's buyout of $25M is coincidentally the same amount as Trump's payout sum for the Trump University lawsuit settlement. Or is it?

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[Taltarzac725]

O'Reilly's buyout of $25M is coincidentally the same amount as Trump's payout sum for the Trump University lawsuit settlement. Or is it?

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I do like O'Reilly's books but I also liked Bill Cosby's comedy. https://www.billoreilly.com/books

[graciegirl]

Spent last evening with dear friends of long standing...more than 40 years...who are opposite to us in Political beliefs.

They brought up Bill O'Reilly and felt the same as many; that many men in power or with money are often targeted with cases against them for harassment.

REad what WEndy Walsh had to say...I didn't get anything from this at all; 'I really did it for my daughters': L.A. radio host Wendy Walsh on why she spoke out against Bill O'Reilly - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/business/hollywood/la-fi-ct-walsh-fox-20170411-story.html)

When do legitimate attempts to date someone turn into sexual harassment? No one knows, but there are many people in danger who will be damaged forever by false claims of sexual harassment and many people who are guilty as hell.

I guess people have decided about Bill O'Reilly based on their own prejudices. I never was his fan, like Rubicon, there was something about his demeanor that didn't call out to me. I was neutral and rarely watched the show. However many men I know just loved his show. Those men are good men. I feel bad for how they feel. I feel bad about the entire thing. I think he is a victim, but I intuit more than know it.

[dillywho]

Women need to grow up and handle men just as they have always done in the past....themselves. FWCOL (for crying out loud) people cannot even speak to each other or compliment one another, or God forbid, take ANY interest in another without it getting characterized as some form of harassment.

If they are going to continue to insist that X, Y, or Z has sexually harassed them, since that's what most claim in their lawsuits, then the law needs to be changed to:

"All incidences of any form of harassment, including sexual harassment, SHALL be reported directly to law enforcement and investigated immediately."

That would take care of this crap of them staying in said "situation" and then "coming forward" years later.

Here's another commandment to add to the other ten:

"Thou shalt not bear false witness against another for money and 15 minutes of fame."

[dillywho]

SO...you support a serial sexual harrasser in the work place ? I mean a lot....he did it and did for a number of years. A teammate from Fox, Kirsten Powers complained a number of times and was told...."you know Bill" and there is nothing we can do. This is not my kind of guy and more and more I see Moral and ethical issues being resolved based on how we feel about Trump. THAT is scary and sad. His abuse goes back many years and you believe that every single woman was lying, presumably because of politics. That thought should scare every woman on the planet.

SO...since his wife also charged him with abuse in divorce, you then support that kind of behavior. ? He also denied that but she got custody and the charge still stands.

How anyone can stand up for a man who is not once doing it but over many years with many women.

And, on here, we praise and we condemn based on our love for Trump....THAT just plain is scary. I will condemn Trump for his morals, but when his policy is on, I say it. You folks have completely gone to the "other side" and simply each issue, do what Trump's biographers said he does.....create your OWN reality and it does not even have to be related to the real thing.

I thought this was about Bill O'Reilly.

If telling someone they look nice is harassment, then PLEASE harass me and do it often!

I worked with men for the better part of my working days. We bantered back and forth and we would not be able to do that in today's world because it would be labeled "sexual harassment". I miss the days when the words "politically correct" had not even been created. We had a great time, mutual respect for one another, and never had a problem....NEVER.

BTW, I don't think anybody in those days had any idea that there was a Donald Trump, much less have this love of which you speak for him.

[wjboyer1]

O'Reilly's buyout of $25M is coincidentally the same amount as Trump's payout sum for the Trump University lawsuit settlement. Or is it?

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Is it just coincidence?

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[ColdNoMore]

Is it just coincidence?

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[Nucky]

I really don't can't wait to see the Tuck Me Factor on Monday. I understand Scott Baio was booked so they got Jenner. OOOOOHHHHH riveting. Mike Rowe is a nice guy but this is going to be a big adjustment for those who cared for Mr O'Reilly.

Bill was fired because of his age pure and simple. If you can't give a compliment nowadays then I would have been fired also. If he sinned he has certainly confessed to his family priest. I just hope if he hurt anyone they heal quickly.

[ColdNoMore]

I really don't can't wait to see the Tuck Me Factor on Monday. I understand Scott Baio was booked so they got Jenner. OOOOOHHHHH riveting. Mike Rowe is a nice guy but this is going to be a big adjustment for those who cared for Mr O'Reilly.

Bill was fired because of his age pure and simple. If you can't give a compliment nowadays then I would have been fired also. If he sinned he has certainly confessed to his family priest. I just hope if he hurt anyone they heal quickly.

I have to be honest Nucky, I'm surprised that I apparently misjudged you so much...when I accepted your 'friend' request.

I never thought you would be the type to defend a serial sexual harasser (physically and verbally/emotionally)...regardless of how much you may have liked him.

I figured that your integrity and ethics would quickly imagine it happening to a female friend or family member and recognize immediately...how wrong it is. :shrug:

In all honesty, do you really believe that Fox would pay $13 MILLION (for 5 different women)...for him just giving out "compliments?" :oops:

I mean, deep down in your heart...do you really believe that?

[Nucky]

I have to be honest Nucky, I'm surprised that I apparently misjudged you so much...when I accepted your 'friend' request.

I never thought you would be the type to defend a serial sexual harasser (physically and verbally/emotionally)...regardless of how much you may have liked him.

I figured that your integrity and ethics would quickly imagine it happening to a female friend or family member and recognize immediately...how wrong it is. :shrug:

In all honesty, do you really believe that Fox would pay $13 MILLION (for 5 different women)...for him just giving out "compliments?" :oops:

I mean, deep down in your heart...do you really believe that?

Accepting a friend request and not agreeing on something don't jive in my world which is small. To judge me because I like the guy is wrong in my eyes but is your option to judge. Every word his accusers said may be totally correct but they accepted Money instead of making him pay for the heinous crime he committed toward them and allowed him to commit the crime to the next woman or man no one ever said who they all were. Before I pronounce him guilty which I've said from the beginning he may be I would love to hear the depth and detail of the words that cut so deep that on that amount of money bandages could stop the pain or lessen it. Sometimes things are paid for instead of dealth with to save face. I wasn't there. I would think something is possibly askew.

Has anyone ever been executed for a crime they didn't commit? It's A simple YES or NO question.

Do me a favor also and get a hold of blowing this out of proportion. My integrity and ethics should never be brought into the conversation as I don't have all the facts. I am missing a person I admire and love listening to on television. I wouldn't ever think of defending my own ethics or integrity I don't need to. I won't question yours to get even although it is my rite to do so but I think that's sophomoric I don't have a clue who you are and people do tend to have beer muscles behind the computer screen. Not necessarily you but it does happen. Take Care. Here I am feeling down and hoping someone would side with me on some points because I was feeling bullied and was the underdog because I had the balls to take an unpopular position but I read today 70% of Bill's audience would forgive him as long as there was no physical problem with the unfortunate millionaires who settled their cases.


He is fired. He will be back somewhere at some point on TV a person like him who feels he has been done wrong is now just going to fade away....time will tell. Remember G Beck. Oh Baby. Would that suck or what and maybe Rush will join them.:boom:

[ColdNoMore]

Accepting a friend request and not agreeing on something don't jive in my world which is small. To judge me because I like the guy is wrong in my eyes but is your option to judge. Every word his accusers said may be totally correct but they accepted Money instead of making him pay for the heinous crime he committed toward them and allowed him to commit the crime to the next woman or man no one ever said who they all were. Before I pronounce him guilty which I've said from the beginning he may be I would love to hear the depth and detail of the words that cut so deep that on that amount of money bandages could stop the pain or lessen it. Sometimes things are paid for instead of dealth with to save face. I wasn't there. I would think something is possibly askew.

Has anyone ever been executed for a crime they didn't commit? It's A simple YES or NO question.

Do me a favor also and get a hold of blowing this out of proportion. My integrity and ethics should never be brought into the conversation as I don't have all the facts. I am missing a person I admire and love listening to on television. I wouldn't ever think of defending my own ethics or integrity I don't need to. I won't question yours to get even although it is my rite to do so but I think that's sophomoric I don't have a clue who you are and people do tend to have beer muscles behind the computer screen. Not necessarily you but it does happen. Take Care. Here I am feeling down and hoping someone would side with me on some points because I was feeling bullied and was the underdog because I had the balls to take an unpopular position but I read today 70% of Bill's audience would forgive him as long as there was no physical problem with the unfortunate millionaires who settled their cases.


He is fired. He will be back somewhere at some point on TV a person like him who feels he has been done wrong is now just going to fade away....time will tell. Remember G Beck. Oh Baby. Would that suck or what and maybe Rush will join them.

Let me start by assuring you that there are no "beer muscles" here, as I seldom drink and WILL always defend the underdog and speak out against sexual harassers and bullies like Bill O'Really, even in real life...as I do it all of the time. :ho:

That's not "judging," that's simply pointing out facts...and refusing to turn a blind eye away from it.

And the fact that you say 70% of his audience would forgive him, is an indictment of 70% of his audience...not something to brag about. :ohdear:

That's exactly the same thing we are seeing with the blind loyalty and cult worship of Trump...even after the despicable things he says/does.

Nowhere in my world...is that ever OK.

:boom:

[MDLNB]

Let me start by assuring you that there are no "beer muscles" here, as I seldom drink and WILL always defend the underdog and speak out against sexual harassers and bullies like Bill O'Really, even in real life...as I do it all of the time. :ho:

That's not "judging," that's simply pointing out facts...and refusing to turn a blind eye away from it.

And the fact that you say 70% of his audience would forgive him, is an indictment of 70% of his audience...not something to brag about. :ohdear:

That's exactly the same thing we are seeing with the blind loyalty and cult worship of Trump...even after the despicable things he says/does.

Nowhere in my world...is that ever OK.

:boom:

Says the bully. :cryin2:

[ColdNoMore]

Says the bully.

Says the ultimate TROLL. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[dirtbanker]

Let me start by assuring you that there are no "beer muscles" here, as I seldom drink and WILL always defend the underdog and speak out against sexual harassers and bullies like Bill O'Really, even in real life...as I do it all of the time. :ho:

That's not "judging," that's simply pointing out facts...and refusing to turn a blind eye away from it.

And the fact that you say 70% of his audience would forgive him, is an indictment of 70% of his audience...not something to brag about. :ohdear:

That's exactly the same thing we are seeing with the blind loyalty and cult worship of Trump...even after the despicable things he says/does.

Nowhere in my world...is that ever OK.

:boom:

And that's why you are known as the (unt...

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[Nucky]

Let me start by assuring you that there are no "beer muscles" here, as I seldom drink and WILL always defend the underdog and speak out against sexual harassers and bullies like Bill O'Really, even in real life...as I do it all of the time. :ho:

That's not "judging," that's simply pointing out facts...and refusing to turn a blind eye away from it.

And the fact that you say 70% of his audience would forgive him, is an indictment of 70% of his audience...not something to brag about. :ohdear:

That's exactly the same thing we are seeing with the blind loyalty and cult worship of Trump...even after the despicable things he says/does.

Nowhere in my world...is that ever OK.

:boom:

The term beer muscles which I clearly mentioned I did not aim at you has nothing to do with actually drinking a beer. It has to do with people saying things they wouldn't say to a person face to face.

You CMN taught me how to look at who posted a post on this thread which I thank you for but most of the time I don't use that function but it is nice to have. I admit I'm a little confused sometimes about who posted what but your colorful larger print makes it easy for me to read as my eyesight isn't what it was some years back. I'm surprised you criticise me for supporting Mr O'Reilly for sexual exploitation but continue to post on a site where your fellow poster use the most terrible word to describe a woman.:censored: Can you see the comparison? I support someone who we as of this minute have no clear ACTUAL evidence against...although they probably didn't pay 13 million for nothing...but we don't know EXACTLY what happened. On this forum we have clear evidence of the word I speak of being repeatedly used and yet you "hang out" on here with those that use it. That does not make me question your ethics, heart, or anything else. It only makes me think you are not practicing what you preach.

I have no chip on my shoulder against you or anyone else on here. I am not flawless. It seemed at times we would never survive the move to this beautiful place. Your going to get a kick out of this...my wife want me to try a old style antenna since we don't watch much TV anymore. I don't think you can get FOX cable on rabbit ears. :cryin2:

[Nucky]

We had one of Mrs Nucky's friends come over for coffee after church this morning. I asked her if she would mind giving me a hand with a technical problem on our beloved forum. She had the situation fixed up in a heartbeat and she showed me a whole lot that I would have never have found on my own. Her job was in one of the big banks on Wall St as an IT person. Impressive skills. I asked here to remove you from my friends list CNM because you brought it up the other day. I don't want you to feel uncomfortable anymore. She kiddingly said ok job done HE'S FIRED who's next. I got to see my friends list and it's jammed with fine people. I'm satisfied with my family, myself, my friends and now with you. Our business has concluded. Enjoy the Forum.

[ColdNoMore]

We had one of Mrs Nucky's friends come over for coffee after church this morning. I asked her if she would mind giving me a hand with a technical problem on our beloved forum. She had the situation fixed up in a heartbeat and she showed me a whole lot that I would have never have found on my own. Her job was in one of the big banks on Wall St as an IT person. Impressive skills. I asked here to remove you from my friends list CNM because you brought it up the other day. I don't want you to feel uncomfortable anymore. She kiddingly said ok job done HE'S FIRED who's next. I got to see my friends list and it's jammed with fine people. I'm satisfied with my family, myself, my friends and now with you. Our business has concluded. Enjoy the Forum.

Works for me...thanks. :thumbup:

[ColdNoMore]

The term beer muscles which I clearly mentioned I did not aim at you has nothing to do with actually drinking a beer. It has to do with people saying things they wouldn't say to a person face to face.

You CMN taught me how to look at who posted a post on this thread which I thank you for but most of the time I don't use that function but it is nice to have. I admit I'm a little confused sometimes about who posted what but your colorful larger print makes it easy for me to read as my eyesight isn't what it was some years back. I'm surprised you criticise me for supporting Mr O'Reilly for sexual exploitation but continue to post on a site where your fellow poster use the most terrible word to describe a woman.:censored: Can you see the comparison? I support someone who we as of this minute have no clear ACTUAL evidence against...although they probably didn't pay 13 million for nothing...but we don't know EXACTLY what happened. On this forum we have clear evidence of the word I speak of being repeatedly used and yet you "hang out" on here with those that use it. That does not make me question your ethics, heart, or anything else. It only makes me think you are not practicing what you preach.

I have no chip on my shoulder against you or anyone else on here. I am not flawless. It seemed at times we would never survive the move to this beautiful place. Your going to get a kick out of this...my wife want me to try a old style antenna since we don't watch much TV anymore. I don't think you can get FOX cable on rabbit ears.

If you had used the function to see user names on posts, you would have seen that I AM the recipient of the disgusting name for women....and I am also the one that constantly calls the scum out who uses it. :oops:

But hey, all is well now that you've admitted your blind support of O'Really...who is very similar to the person on here that uses that disgusting word. :ohdear:

So at least we know YOUR hypocrisy now.

Thanks for that. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Nucky]

I'm tempted for a come back at that last one but like some other people I've known I'll give you the last word. Now were done. Later.




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[Chi-Town]

I'm tempted for a come back at that last one but like some other people I've known I'll give you the last word. Now were done. Later.




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Hmmm. That sounds like a last word. Just sayin'. [emoji6]

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