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jebartle
04-21-2017, 01:42 PM
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

Rockyrd
04-21-2017, 01:50 PM
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

It is....well, shocking...to hear supposedly intelligence people defend outright lies....even when faced head on with proof of the lying.

They come on here and defend his every move.

Have we ever had a President in history that in less than 90 days has screwed up seriously so many times and so chronically.

I do not know about the tax return, except he is slapping every american in the country right in the face on that issue. With this President especially, for national security and any tax reform, we need to know. I say that and immediately think of the posters on here who actually seem not to care one iota about facts.

They have been snookered and it is only 100 days....as time goes on this just gets worse and worse, but hey.....the Trump family continues to manufacture overseas and make tons of money.

Can you imagine any other political figure of any party getting away with this ?

In return for that loyalty they spend their time,not celebrating his legislative victories, of which there are none, but defending his lying and deception. At what point do you say you don't like liars and do not like to be deceived ?

Lord knows I wanted and was prepared to strenously work for a conservative candidate to defeat Clinton, and now I am witnessing him destroy the party one lie, one deception and almost every single day

rubicon
04-21-2017, 02:41 PM
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!


Something tells me you looked into a mirror and repeated to your self "TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT"

Something tells me you were deeply engaged in listening to the polemics of Whoopi Golderberg and Joy Behar which provided you the insight you share with us in the form of an original post (OP)

Something tells me you side with the antics by students at Berkley, Middlebury, etc because these students are resisting the terrorist KKKér, nazi Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is becoming an epidemic

P.S. don't be surprised when CNN reports that Trump has been seen raising antenna from the back of his head

Personal Best Regards:

dirtbanker
04-21-2017, 02:52 PM
What did the Crooked Hillary supporter think when it became evident she had been lying all along...Oh that's right you voted for the biatch because she was a woman

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Rockyrd
04-21-2017, 02:55 PM
Posts #3 and #4 certainly make the point.

graciegirl
04-21-2017, 03:02 PM
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

That he is still the better choice over Hillary Clinton and the unrealistic way the left want to run things.

There is my answer. The nonsense that the left preaches all sounds good. But the truth is the left's rules and restrictions don't change global warming, water pollution, drug trade or Islamic terrorism. The left doesn't make women better off, or help the race issues. Obama just made the race issues worse, more tense, more angered. The left live in the world like naïve young people who want good to happen. I feel that Obama lied to us plenty. Not that that is a fair debate answer.

My answer is that we are probably better off with this man than we would be with any of the other candidates. They all had baggage and stuff I didn't want. At least this one isn't motivated by money. I hope I won't die of stress before it's over. I have never seen so many people show their ass. AND been so annoyed at both sides.

jebartle
04-21-2017, 03:53 PM
What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

That he is still the better choice over Hillary Clinton and the unrealistic way the left want to run things.

There is my answer. The nonsense that the left preaches all sounds good. But the truth is the left's rules and restrictions don't change global warming, water pollution, drug trade or Islamic terrorism. The left doesn't make women better off, or help the race issues. Obama just made the race issues worse, more tense, more angered. The left live in the world like naïve young people who want good to happen. I feel that Obama lied to us plenty. Not that that is a fair debate answer.

My answer is that we are probably better off with this man than we would be with any of the other candidates. They all had baggage and stuff I didn't want. At least this one isn't motivated by money. I hope I won't die of stress before it's over. I have never seen so many people show their ass. AND been so annoyed at both sides.

Did the OP say anything about Clinton, no! And you would have to be d illusion to think Obama was a bad choice. He had class, smarts and if congress gave him half a chance we would have accomplished a lot for America!

graciegirl
04-21-2017, 04:26 PM
Did the OP say anything about Clinton, no! And you would have to be d illusion to think Obama was a bad choice. He had class, smarts and if congress gave him half a chance we would have accomplished a lot for America!

Oh Jeannie.

Rockyrd
04-21-2017, 05:15 PM
What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

That he is still the better choice over Hillary Clinton and the unrealistic way the left want to run things.

There is my answer. The nonsense that the left preaches all sounds good. But the truth is the left's rules and restrictions don't change global warming, water pollution, drug trade or Islamic terrorism. The left doesn't make women better off, or help the race issues. Obama just made the race issues worse, more tense, more angered. The left live in the world like naïve young people who want good to happen. I feel that Obama lied to us plenty. Not that that is a fair debate answer.

My answer is that we are probably better off with this man than we would be with any of the other candidates. They all had baggage and stuff I didn't want. At least this one isn't motivated by money. I hope I won't die of stress before it's over. I have never seen so many people show their ass. AND been so annoyed at both sides.

Gracie, I am going to post with no intent to rile or anything. Just know this is how I feel.

There is nothing wrong with supporting a candidate while he is campaigning. I can even understand "panning" Clinton and Obama.

Where I find fault with you and Rubicon and all the other on here is, the election is over..done...he got elected. Now, his job is to guide our country and govern.

I will never sacrifice my own basic morals for nobody.

Now, he continues to lie FROM THE OVAL OFFICE. Your blind and I mean totally blind loyalty to him is flat out scary. You is being used in the group vernacular.

How can you allow the leader of our country to flat out lie...how can you allow the leader of our country to charge another President with wiretapping....how can you allow the President of our country to embarass us all with what he says to and about other countries.

Again, the election is over.....if the citizens of he country do not hold our President accountable, then what ? He is not longer your candidate....he is our president and we deserve better.

To come on here and reply when he is called out for lying...that "you don't read my links"......or.....speak about Clinton or Obama.....or some other reason to presumably just defer what you think is bad news.

We all have a responsibility to keep the White House honest. It is our house, not his. If you are going to accept whatever he says, even when you know it is a flat out lie, then this country is in deep trouble.

I have supported some of his "thoughts" but will never support dishonesty from that office. Everything I say I verify to be true...no president ever in history has had more people investigating him. Now, Rubicon has a name for it.....my name is being a good citizen because I assure you totally that the day will come when his honesty will be the only thing you have to rely on.

He is not honest and never has been. That does not mean he cannot survive as President...he has made some good appointments, but you are not even realizing how he lied to you and all other supporters, how he and his family are just getting richer off "our house".

If you don't question the President and what he says then you are not a loyal american. If he lies, and it is proven, he has to be called on it. As long as he has you and his base, which is dwindling, he will continue to lie. He is closing all the doors he can and becoming a secret. He has us the closest I can recall to nuclear conflict, NOT BECAUSE he is calling out Iran and/or N Korea, but because he continues to do it PUBLICLY AND WITH GREAT HATE. He needs the pats on the backs you guys give him....he needs the accolades.....may he not overextend and destroy this country any further.

Point is, and you probably have already stopped reading, but all the trip about Clinton or Obama that you say is simply making an excuse for voting for him, but now as President, we have a responsibility to keep him honest, because lying in the WH is a mortal sin and why you folks continue to support his lying and sneakiness and come on here and berate those who actually read what Trump dubs the fake news, which is sinful also to demean truth telling.

Thats it.....you probably left awhile ago, but it gets very tiresome when you post verified truths and have you and Rubicon tell us once again that Trump is never wrong and that the only bad people are progressives or whatever his word of the day is.

I do not have any of his made up syndromes. I just keep informed and care about my country before any mere mortal especially one like Trump.

dirtbanker
04-21-2017, 05:21 PM
Long winded way for Rockface to say Trump sucks and nothing Trump does or anyone else does will change that...Rockface (with all 50 year experience in the political arena) will never support Trump.

Does anyone want him to explain it any further? If so please respond so...

Can we agree to disagree with him and let him go over to the ladies forum and bitch?

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Rockyrd
04-21-2017, 06:12 PM
Long winded way for Rockface to say Trump sucks and nothing Trump does or anyone else does will change that...Rockface (with all 50 year experience in the political arena) will never support Trump.

Does anyone want him to explain it any further? If so please respond so...

Can we agree to disagree with him and let him go over to the ladies forum and bitch?

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See now, this is the problem with you children. By the way ALL are not children, but you certainly are.

I have in fact supported Trump. Not the man, but policy.

BUT you and your little friends come to this forum, NOT to discuss issues but to simply troll and cause trouble, so those posts you never read.

People like you and your play pals are the kids that everyone avoided and probably still do. No conversation skills, no knowledge, just bad, and let's be honest BAD wise ass remarks.

They are not even good so you are a failure at trolling.

wjboyer1
04-21-2017, 07:39 PM
Something tells me you looked into a mirror and repeated to your self "TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT"

Something tells me you were deeply engaged in listening to the polemics of Whoopi Golderberg and Joy Behar which provided you the insight you share with us in the form of an original post (OP)

Something tells me you side with the antics by students at Berkley, Middlebury, etc because these students are resisting the terrorist KKKér, nazi Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is becoming an epidemic

P.S. don't be surprised when CNN reports that Trump has been seen raising antenna from the back of his head

Personal Best Regards:

That "something that tells you" is a symptom of a rather serious mental illness, or you are taking too much medication.....or alcohol

wjboyer1
04-21-2017, 07:44 PM
What did the Crooked Hillary supporter think when it became evident she had been lying all along...Oh that's right you voted for the biatch because she was a woman

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It became evident that the congressional committee that was investigating HRC reported there was nothing that she did that was illegal (including and not limited to perjury). So, by regurgitating Republican talking points that have been debunked, you prove that the only thing that you have to defend your pseudo-president are pants on fire accusations. Being a woman who has the best qualifications does, in fact, mean that those who voted for her are, and continue to be the intelligent Americans that this county needs to succeed, unlike those of you with many forms of organic brain syndrome.

dirtbanker
04-21-2017, 09:41 PM
It became evident that the congressional committee that was investigating HRC reported there was nothing that she did that was illegal (including and not limited to perjury). So, by regurgitating Republican talking points that have been debunked, you prove that the only thing that you have to defend your pseudo-president are pants on fire accusations. Being a woman who has the best qualifications does, in fact, mean that those who voted for her are, and continue to be the intelligent Americans that this county needs to succeed, unlike those of you with many forms of organic brain syndrome.
So why did Crooked Hillary lose?

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dillywho
04-21-2017, 10:04 PM
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

The question is: What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

Answer: The same thing as when President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and Susan Rice told lie after lie after lie.

As for never admitting to being wrong, please tell me when President Obama ever in 8 years admitted to being wrong; but he was ALWAYS taking credit for anything that worked. He spent no less than 6 years blaming President Bush for any and everything that happened on his watch....not Bush's.

As for his tax returns, BFD, other than the fact that he said that he would release them. He still has time to do that. IF there is anything, and I mean anything amiss, you can bet the farm and all the chickens on it that the IRS will waste zero time in letting the whole world know. This country has bigger problems than his tax returns. I doubt seriously that ISIS cares about them, either.

At the very least, he does not travel the world apologizing for America or for being American. The blacks never liked sitting in the back of the bus and remedied the situation. I definitely don't like to see America taking a back seat to every other country and think it's about time we got back up front standing tall! Remember what Merle Haggard sang, "....they love our milk and honey, but talk about a better way of living....". They love our money, but many hate our guts while we fill their coffers.

dillywho
04-21-2017, 10:10 PM
It became evident that the congressional committee that was investigating HRC reported there was nothing that she did that was illegal (including and not limited to perjury). So, by regurgitating Republican talking points that have been debunked, you prove that the only thing that you have to defend your pseudo-president are pants on fire accusations. Being a woman who has the best qualifications does, in fact, mean that those who voted for her are, and continue to be the intelligent Americans that this county needs to succeed, unlike those of you with many forms of organic brain syndrome.

So you are saying that you did not see and hear her blaming the video for Benghazi on national television? I did and that is the same lie that Susan Rice and Obama told over and over. Those were also televised. That is exactly what she told the parents of two who died at Benghazi and then had the audacity to accuse them of lying! As my old boss used to say, "That dog won't hunt!"

wjboyer1
04-21-2017, 11:41 PM
So you are saying that you did not see and hear her blaming the video for Benghazi on national television? I did and that is the same lie that Susan Rice and Obama told over and over. Those were also televised. That is exactly what she told the parents of two who died at Benghazi and then had the audacity to accuse them of lying! As my old boss used to say, "That dog won't hunt!"

And, if there was a crime committed, there would be an indictment and trial.......where were those? Do you believe that in a Republican controlled Congress, that she could get away with any of that? Perhaps it is because there was no real illegal activity, and you just bought the Republican talking points, which, by the way, have been debunked and the reports of the committee have shown that their activity was a political witch hunt.

So, let that rest for a bit, and please inform me why, when over 90 people (American citizens) died in embassy attacks under Bush and Powell, were there no Congressional committees investigating those incidents.

Here is an interesting poll finding by Pew Research: prior to the election, less than 20% of Republicans felt that the economy was good, after the election over 80% of Republicans thought the economy was good. But, there was little, if any change in the economy during this past few months. So, if there is little ACTUAL change, it is the perception of who holds the presidential office: and if that is true, then those Republicans only believe what Trump tells them......and so far major news sources have documented well over 173 lies that Trump has told so far and that is a modest estimate because the number keeps growing.

I believe in factual discussion, I don't think that you have facts to support your opinion, but I am open to you providing actual verifiable factual data that we can openly debate. If you cannot provide that data (again that is verifiable and factual, not from pundits, or blogs, or editorials, or ultra-right or ultra-left wing sources) I would be more than eager to match your data with mine.

If you provide opinion, non-factual non-verifiable data, I will assume, as many other who have an intelligent perspective, that you have a problem with critical thinking, that you have a problem with reality, or that you have a chemical dependence problem, to name just a few things that clouds ones' ability to engage in intelligent discourse.

The other problem that you may have is that because you cannot intelligently argue a good case for Trump, you bring up old Republican talking points that have been proven false. Those types of people normally are in their first stages of dementia, or need to be in protective wards, and perhaps your family should consider one for you.

wjboyer1
04-21-2017, 11:47 PM
Something tells me you looked into a mirror and repeated to your self "TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT"

Something tells me you were deeply engaged in listening to the polemics of Whoopi Golderberg and Joy Behar which provided you the insight you share with us in the form of an original post (OP)

Something tells me you side with the antics by students at Berkley, Middlebury, etc because these students are resisting the terrorist KKKér, nazi Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is becoming an epidemic

P.S. don't be surprised when CNN reports that Trump has been seen raising antenna from the back of his head

Personal Best Regards:

VICE News - 24 things NOBODY does better than Trump* (https://www.facebook.com/vicenews/videos/744905612336058/)

ColdNoMore
04-22-2017, 06:13 AM
The question is: What does a Trump supporter think when lies come right out of his mouth?

Answer: The same thing as when President Obama, Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, and Susan Rice told lie after lie after lie.

As for never admitting to being wrong, please tell me when President Obama ever in 8 years admitted to being wrong; but he was ALWAYS taking credit for anything that worked. He spent no less than 6 years blaming President Bush for any and everything that happened on his watch....not Bush's.

As for his tax returns, BFD, other than the fact that he said that he would release them. He still has time to do that. IF there is anything, and I mean anything amiss, you can bet the farm and all the chickens on it that the IRS will waste zero time in letting the whole world know. This country has bigger problems than his tax returns. I doubt seriously that ISIS cares about them, either.

At the very least, he does not travel the world apologizing for America or for being American. The blacks never liked sitting in the back of the bus and remedied the situation. I definitely don't like to see America taking a back seat to every other country and think it's about time we got back up front standing tall! Remember what Merle Haggard sang, "....they love our milk and honey, but talk about a better way of living....". They love our money, but many hate our guts while we fill their coffers.

Do you really not understand...why his tax returns are so important? :oops:

Do you not understand that it's not the IRS' job to determine conflicts of interest...due to investments in other countries?

Are you really so partisan, that you don't care if the POTUS might be beholden to another country/leader...that it could affect how they are treated?

I realize that my questions are mostly rhetorical, as all too many Trump Cultists like yourself...have made it clear that they don't understand or care.

At a minimum, you have forfeited the right...to call yourself a patriotic American. :ohdear:




At the very least, he does not travel the world apologizing for America or for being American. The blacks never liked sitting in the back of the bus and remedied the situation. I definitely don't like to see America taking a back seat to every other country and think it's about time we got back up front standing tall! Remember what Merle Haggard sang, "....they love our milk and honey, but talk about a better way of living....". They love our money, but many hate our guts while we fill their coffers.

"The blacks?" :oops:

Just the fact that you and so many others can't tell the difference between addressing someone else in their customary form of greeting and somehow conferring subservience...pretty much says it all.

Which goes right back to your "the blacks" comment, which even though you didn't mean to...indicates the REAL reason so many hate Obama. :ohdear:

ColdNoMore
04-22-2017, 06:17 AM
VICE News - 24 things NOBODY does better than Trump* (https://www.facebook.com/vicenews/videos/744905612336058/)

WOW! :22yikes:


And people still love this narcissistic, sociopathic liar? :oops:


Which is primarily a commentary on their lack of moral fiber...NOT Trump's. :ohdear:

Taltarzac725
04-22-2017, 06:55 AM
Gracie, I am going to post with no intent to rile or anything. Just know this is how I feel.

There is nothing wrong with supporting a candidate while he is campaigning. I can even understand "panning" Clinton and Obama.

Where I find fault with you and Rubicon and all the other on here is, the election is over..done...he got elected. Now, his job is to guide our country and govern.

I will never sacrifice my own basic morals for nobody.

Now, he continues to lie FROM THE OVAL OFFICE. Your blind and I mean totally blind loyalty to him is flat out scary. You is being used in the group vernacular.

How can you allow the leader of our country to flat out lie...how can you allow the leader of our country to charge another President with wiretapping....how can you allow the President of our country to embarass us all with what he says to and about other countries.

Again, the election is over.....if the citizens of he country do not hold our President accountable, then what ? He is not longer your candidate....he is our president and we deserve better.

To come on here and reply when he is called out for lying...that "you don't read my links"......or.....speak about Clinton or Obama.....or some other reason to presumably just defer what you think is bad news.

We all have a responsibility to keep the White House honest. It is our house, not his. If you are going to accept whatever he says, even when you know it is a flat out lie, then this country is in deep trouble.

I have supported some of his "thoughts" but will never support dishonesty from that office. Everything I say I verify to be true...no president ever in history has had more people investigating him. Now, Rubicon has a name for it.....my name is being a good citizen because I assure you totally that the day will come when his honesty will be the only thing you have to rely on.

He is not honest and never has been. That does not mean he cannot survive as President...he has made some good appointments, but you are not even realizing how he lied to you and all other supporters, how he and his family are just getting richer off "our house".

If you don't question the President and what he says then you are not a loyal american. If he lies, and it is proven, he has to be called on it. As long as he has you and his base, which is dwindling, he will continue to lie. He is closing all the doors he can and becoming a secret. He has us the closest I can recall to nuclear conflict, NOT BECAUSE he is calling out Iran and/or N Korea, but because he continues to do it PUBLICLY AND WITH GREAT HATE. He needs the pats on the backs you guys give him....he needs the accolades.....may he not overextend and destroy this country any further.

Point is, and you probably have already stopped reading, but all the trip about Clinton or Obama that you say is simply making an excuse for voting for him, but now as President, we have a responsibility to keep him honest, because lying in the WH is a mortal sin and why you folks continue to support his lying and sneakiness and come on here and berate those who actually read what Trump dubs the fake news, which is sinful also to demean truth telling.

Thats it.....you probably left awhile ago, but it gets very tiresome when you post verified truths and have you and Rubicon tell us once again that Trump is never wrong and that the only bad people are progressives or whatever his word of the day is.

I do not have any of his made up syndromes. I just keep informed and care about my country before any mere mortal especially one like Trump.


Nice post.

Cedwards38
04-22-2017, 07:36 AM
To sum up the conservative defense of President Donald Trump:

1. He won the election so shut up.
2. We hate Hillary.
3. Progressives are children.
4. Go chat with women because they are silly.
5. Obama did it first.
6. We are smarter, and right, because we can call you names like Libtard and Commie.
7. Republican, right or wrong.
8. We simply don't care that he lies.
9. Russians? What Russians?
10. It's unAmerican to speak up about policy issues with which you disagree.

How about accepting some facts? Do you still prefer the "alternative facts?" How much do you have to see and hear before you accept the truth?

dirtbanker
04-22-2017, 07:38 AM
WOW!


And people still love this narcissistic, sociopathic liar?


Which is primarily a commentary on their lack of moral fiber...NOT Trump's.

Your idol, Crooked Hillary, called us deplorables...I guess you agree with her!

ColdNoMore
04-22-2017, 07:39 AM
To sum up the conservative defense of President Donald Trump:

1. He won the election so shut up.
2. We hate Hillary.
3. Progressives are children.
4. Go chat with women because they are silly.
5. Obama did it first.
6. We are smarter, and right, because we can call you names like Libtard and Commie.
7. Republican, right or wrong.
8. We simply don't care that he lies.
9. Russians? What Russians?
10. It's unAmerican to speak up about policy issues with which you disagree.

How about accepting some facts? How much do you have to see and hear before you accept the truth?


Excellent summary. :BigApplause:

Taltarzac725
04-22-2017, 07:40 AM
To sum up the conservative defense of President Donald Trump:

1. He won the election so shut up.
2. We hate Hillary.
3. Progressives are children.
4. Go chat with women because they are silly.
5. Obama did it first.
6. We are smarter, and right, because we can call you names like Libtard and Commie.
7. Republican, right or wrong.
8. We simply don't care that he lies.
9. Russians? What Russians?
10. It's unAmerican to speak up about policy issues with which you disagree.

How about accepting some facts? Do you still prefer the "alternative facts?" How much do you have to see and hear before you accept the truth?

And lots and lots of attacks on you personally especially if you get under their very thin skins. My finances, sex life, work history and whether my parents love me have all been brought up which have nothing to do with Donald John Trump.

Rockyrd
04-22-2017, 10:07 AM
And lots and lots of attacks on you personally especially if you get under their very thin skins. My finances, sex life, work history and whether my parents love me have all been brought up which have nothing to do with Donald John Trump.

I agree with this. The name calling combined with the lack of sharing anything but who they hate the most is staggering.

I think any group that even has whispered as disagreeing with Trump has been attacked and attacked as a group. Label them and call them a name, or at minimum, blame those you have labeled for all the evils of the world.

Warren Kiefer
04-22-2017, 11:43 AM
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

I wish I had the answer !! I have many republican friends who simply dismiss trump's lying. If I have a person lie to me only three times, I find I cannot trust that person and in no way be friends. I feel the same about Trump who has lied nearly every day. I CANNOT TRUSt HIM !!!

Warren Kiefer
04-22-2017, 11:48 AM
Something tells me you looked into a mirror and repeated to your self "TRUMP IS NOT MY PRESIDENT"

Something tells me you were deeply engaged in listening to the polemics of Whoopi Golderberg and Joy Behar which provided you the insight you share with us in the form of an original post (OP)

Something tells me you side with the antics by students at Berkley, Middlebury, etc because these students are resisting the terrorist KKKér, nazi Trump.

Trump Derangement Syndrome is becoming an epidemic

P.S. don't be surprised when CNN reports that Trump has been seen raising antenna from the back of his head

Personal Best Regards:


My response is that I hear some who has a working brain and it is not you !!

Warren Kiefer
04-22-2017, 11:53 AM
Gracie, I am going to post with no intent to rile or anything. Just know this is how I feel.

There is nothing wrong with supporting a candidate while he is campaigning. I can even understand "panning" Clinton and Obama.

Where I find fault with you and Rubicon and all the other on here is, the election is over..done...he got elected. Now, his job is to guide our country and govern.

I will never sacrifice my own basic morals for nobody.

Now, he continues to lie FROM THE OVAL OFFICE. Your blind and I mean totally blind loyalty to him is flat out scary. You is being used in the group vernacular.

How can you allow the leader of our country to flat out lie...how can you allow the leader of our country to charge another President with wiretapping....how can you allow the President of our country to embarass us all with what he says to and about other countries.

Again, the election is over.....if the citizens of he country do not hold our President accountable, then what ? He is not longer your candidate....he is our president and we deserve better.

To come on here and reply when he is called out for lying...that "you don't read my links"......or.....speak about Clinton or Obama.....or some other reason to presumably just defer what you think is bad news.

We all have a responsibility to keep the White House honest. It is our house, not his. If you are going to accept whatever he says, even when you know it is a flat out lie, then this country is in deep trouble.

I have supported some of his "thoughts" but will never support dishonesty from that office. Everything I say I verify to be true...no president ever in history has had more people investigating him. Now, Rubicon has a name for it.....my name is being a good citizen because I assure you totally that the day will come when his honesty will be the only thing you have to rely on.

He is not honest and never has been. That does not mean he cannot survive as President...he has made some good appointments, but you are not even realizing how he lied to you and all other supporters, how he and his family are just getting richer off "our house".

If you don't question the President and what he says then you are not a loyal american. If he lies, and it is proven, he has to be called on it. As long as he has you and his base, which is dwindling, he will continue to lie. He is closing all the doors he can and becoming a secret. He has us the closest I can recall to nuclear conflict, NOT BECAUSE he is calling out Iran and/or N Korea, but because he continues to do it PUBLICLY AND WITH GREAT HATE. He needs the pats on the backs you guys give him....he needs the accolades.....may he not overextend and destroy this country any further.

Point is, and you probably have already stopped reading, but all the trip about Clinton or Obama that you say is simply making an excuse for voting for him, but now as President, we have a responsibility to keep him honest, because lying in the WH is a mortal sin and why you folks continue to support his lying and sneakiness and come on here and berate those who actually read what Trump dubs the fake news, which is sinful also to demean truth telling.

Thats it.....you probably left awhile ago, but it gets very tiresome when you post verified truths and have you and Rubicon tell us once again that Trump is never wrong and that the only bad people are progressives or whatever his word of the day is.

I do not have any of his made up syndromes. I just keep informed and care about my country before any mere mortal especially one like Trump.

I totally agree with this post !!! I too cannot understand how ones brain seems to go into neutral when Trump lies to them. How long would someone remain your friend if they lied to you constantly ?? For myself, it is not very long. I cannot believe America will sit idly by while Trump lies to them for four years >>>

dirtbanker
04-22-2017, 11:54 AM
If I have a person lie to me only three times, I find I cannot trust that person and in no way be friends.

Only 3 times? Do you warn them at lie #2? What kind of lies are you talking about (like you ask do I look good, and they lie saying you look great)? How many friends do you have? Are any of them on lie #2?



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Warren Kiefer
04-22-2017, 11:54 AM
It became evident that the congressional committee that was investigating HRC reported there was nothing that she did that was illegal (including and not limited to perjury). So, by regurgitating Republican talking points that have been debunked, you prove that the only thing that you have to defend your pseudo-president are pants on fire accusations. Being a woman who has the best qualifications does, in fact, mean that those who voted for her are, and continue to be the intelligent Americans that this county needs to succeed, unlike those of you with many forms of organic brain syndrome.


Great post and so true !!!

Warren Kiefer
04-22-2017, 11:56 AM
So why did Crooked Hillary lose?

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She won the popular vote, any fool knows that and did it without the Russian help Trump enjoyed.

Warren Kiefer
04-22-2017, 12:00 PM
only 3 times? Do you warn them at lie #2? What kind of lies are you talking about (like you ask do i look good, and they lie saying you look great)? How many friends do you have? Are any of them on lie #2?



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any lies that have a serious effect on me or my friends.

dillywho
04-22-2017, 12:16 PM
And, if there was a crime committed, there would be an indictment and trial.......where were those? Do you believe that in a Republican controlled Congress, that she could get away with any of that? Perhaps it is because there was no real illegal activity, and you just bought the Republican talking points, which, by the way, have been debunked and the reports of the committee have shown that their activity was a political witch hunt.

So, let that rest for a bit, and please inform me why, when over 90 people (American citizens) died in embassy attacks under Bush and Powell, were there no Congressional committees investigating those incidents.

Here is an interesting poll finding by Pew Research: prior to the election, less than 20% of Republicans felt that the economy was good, after the election over 80% of Republicans thought the economy was good. But, there was little, if any change in the economy during this past few months. So, if there is little ACTUAL change, it is the perception of who holds the presidential office: and if that is true, then those Republicans only believe what Trump tells them......and so far major news sources have documented well over 173 lies that Trump has told so far and that is a modest estimate because the number keeps growing.

I believe in factual discussion, I don't think that you have facts to support your opinion, but I am open to you providing actual verifiable factual data that we can openly debate. If you cannot provide that data (again that is verifiable and factual, not from pundits, or blogs, or editorials, or ultra-right or ultra-left wing sources) I would be more than eager to match your data with mine.

If you provide opinion, non-factual non-verifiable data, I will assume, as many other who have an intelligent perspective, that you have a problem with critical thinking, that you have a problem with reality, or that you have a chemical dependence problem, to name just a few things that clouds ones' ability to engage in intelligent discourse.

The other problem that you may have is that because you cannot intelligently argue a good case for Trump, you bring up old Republican talking points that have been proven false. Those types of people normally are in their first stages of dementia, or need to be in protective wards, and perhaps your family should consider one for you.

The question was about lying, not whether a crime was committed or not. They all LIED. And, NO, I did not get that from any talking points. I was WATCHING when they all 3 went on national television time and again to try and sell their BIG lie about the slaughter at Benghazi being the result of a damned video. I was WATCHING when those parents related what she told them happened to their loved ones and promised to catch the video maker. I was WATCHING when Hillary said they were LYING and then hastily tried to cover up by saying that MAYBE they just misunderstood. She was just trying to cover her own butt. They would never have lied about what happened had this happened AFTER Obama was re-elected. They were too afraid that he would lose if they told the truth. Those, my friend, are the FACTS. I am neither stupid nor in any stage of dementia nor have diminished hearing. I will gladly allow my physicians to attest to those FACTS concerning me.

Tell me, did you keep count of their lies? Of course not. That would not fit with either your admiration or love of them or your agenda.

President Trump is not perfect and will never be. Funny thing, when he gets something wrong, he lies. When libs do it, they mis-spoke. He probably doesn't always tell the truth. So far, I don't think he has managed to get anyone killed by it. Seems that YOU are the one listening to the pundits, bloggers, etc. instead of admitting when you are wrong. Or are you trying to convince everyone that you are NEVER wrong?

It may turn out that voting for President Trump will end up being a big mistake. If so, then it will not be the first mistake any of us has ever made in an election. I am a firm believer in voting and, as such, am willing to own my choices. Unless a person votes, they have no gripe or celebration coming.

It was heavily predicted that the stock market would have totally crashed by now, people would be stuck with zero health care, more people than ever would be out of work, etc. What happened to all that? It is only insurance companies that are kicking folks to the curb because Obamacare is not sustainable, not President Trump.

Everything he tries to do, he meets opposition. Why? When will those in power start thinking about our country and its people instead of themselves, and work with each other just like they ALL promise to do.....until they get re-elected. The only good thing I can say for ole Nancy Pelosi is that she makes no bones about not even going to try to get along with anything coming from the "other side". At least, that's honest.

You want facts: Just go to youtube, put in Obama Addressing the Nation and the UN after Benghazi. You will see and hear him. Then come back and tell me I "don't have any facts to back up what I say". I watched it all when it was FiRST televised live. I am also going to check out what Hillary and Susan Rice said about it. It should also be available on youtube.

rubicon
04-22-2017, 12:48 PM
Reading this thread brought to mind the mutual admiration hugfest also called Hollywood's Award Shows.

First they always flatter one another and boast about their great acting abilities and how great they are at being humanitarians blah blah blah.

Secondly they love it so much they keep inventing more awards shows so that a) they can have more hug fests b) be certain everyone gets a participant trophy .

Well did you notice the comments here by progressives who made false, nasty, incorrect observations and assumptions ,about Trump, and conservative posters received a high five from another progressive. Convenient. "Hey man your right on that conservative bozo can't chew gum and walk at the same time" Kool your just so Kool:D

Rockyrd
04-22-2017, 01:11 PM
Reading this thread brought to mind the mutual admiration hugfest also called Hollywood's Award Shows.

First they always flatter one another and boast about their great acting abilities and how great they are at being humanitarians blah blah blah.

Secondly they love it so much they keep inventing more awards shows so that a) they can have more hug fests b) be certain everyone gets a participant trophy .

Well did you notice the comments here by progressives who made false, nasty, incorrect observations and assumptions ,about Trump, and conservative posters received a high five from another progressive. Convenient. "Hey man your right on that conservative bozo can't chew gum and walk at the same time" Kool your just so Kool:D

Since I KNOW, despite your on going litany, that I am not one of your described evil ne'er-do well progressives, and despite not being afflicted with whatever terrible disease you lay at the feet of ALL progressives, I criticize our President and I do it routinely and factually.

Since you accuse posters of "...,,"who made false, nasty, incorrect observations and assumptions ,about Trump" I feel compelled to ask you to, instead of the blanket condemnation that you so enjoy, share specifics for those "false, nasty, incorrect observations" that you reference.

Seems like an honorable thing to do, and since I am sure I have criticized Trump, I take it personally. However, I recall being critiqued for supply TOO MUCH backup.

I await specifics, see without that nobody can defend themselves and your general accusations just lay out there.

PS...I would hope that you might consider backing up your charges, because you would not want to practice that Alinsky tactic, now would you ? Who attacks and accuses with no backup...oh, yeah...the President

Taltarzac725
04-22-2017, 01:15 PM
I totally agree with this post !!! I too cannot understand how ones brain seems to go into neutral when Trump lies to them. How long would someone remain your friend if they lied to you constantly ?? For myself, it is not very long. I cannot believe America will sit idly by while Trump lies to them for four years >>>

I do not like to be lied to either but sometimes it has taken me a long time to figure out what a con man or woman someone I really liked was or is. But Donald Trump is quite easy to spot as a habitual liar.

MDLNB
04-22-2017, 03:03 PM
She won the popular vote, any fool knows that and did it without the Russian help Trump enjoyed.

What help did Trump "enjoy?" Was it the help he got from a decade old illegally obtained recording that was released to the public? Did that help him get elected? Was it the illegally released Trump tax returns that the media released? Did that help him?

What hurt Hillary? Did her illegally having a server to do classified business upon, hurt her? Who's fault was that? Was that due to the Russians? Did her lying to congress hurt her? Was that attributed to the Russians? Did these help Trump? The truth about Hillary's corruption helped Trump? Did the Russians make Hillary break several felonies? I know that Hillary and Pedosta made millions from the Russians. But, that doesn't count, right?

Why don't you grow up and admit that Hillary was a flawed and very bad candidate. She was lazy too. She did not campaign when she should have been, allowing everyone else to do her work for her. Obamas (both) campaigned for her, Biden campaigned for her, Slick Willie campaigned for her (although that probably hurt her more than helped her). She even had Sanders campaigning for her. And she did not win. Not only did she lose, but areas that were blue before are now RED. I believe that both Hillary and Obama can share the blame for that.

Cedwards38
04-22-2017, 04:54 PM
And lots and lots of attacks on you personally especially if you get under their very thin skins. My finances, sex life, work history and whether my parents love me have all been brought up which have nothing to do with Donald John Trump.

You're right! It's simply pathetic schoolyard bullying. I guess it's been working for them since they pushed people around and made fun of them on the elementary school playground, and it's still all they have. No facts. No logic. No rational thought. And certainly no questioning of what is right in front of their face. All of us who have questioned any of the lies and lunacy of the Trump Presidency on this website have faced this type of insane childish criticism. His supporters can't argue the facts so they attempt to attack the speaker.

Bottom line though is that we see through it. It's not going to work. I obviously don't care what someone thinks of me who denies the obvious, and I urge you to do the same. Their credibility was lost long ago. Hang in there, and keep on sharing the truth! Thanks for posting.

:BigApplause:

ColdNoMore
04-22-2017, 05:43 PM
You're right! It's simply pathetic schoolyard bullying. I guess it's been working for them since they pushed people around and made fun of them on the elementary school playground, and it's still all they have. No facts. No logic. No rational thought. And certainly no questioning of what is right in front of their face. All of us who have questioned any of the lies and lunacy of the Trump Presidency on this website have faced this type of insane childish criticism. His supporters can't argue the facts so they attempt to attack the speaker.

Bottom line though is that we see through it. It's not going to work. I obviously don't care what someone thinks of me who denies the obvious, and I urge you to do the same. Their credibility was lost long ago. Hang in there, and keep on sharing the truth! Thanks for posting.



:BigApplause:...:BigApplause: You nailed it! :BigApplause:...:BigApplause:

Taltarzac725
04-22-2017, 07:22 PM
You're right! It's simply pathetic schoolyard bullying. I guess it's been working for them since they pushed people around and made fun of them on the elementary school playground, and it's still all they have. No facts. No logic. No rational thought. And certainly no questioning of what is right in front of their face. All of us who have questioned any of the lies and lunacy of the Trump Presidency on this website have faced this type of insane childish criticism. His supporters can't argue the facts so they attempt to attack the speaker.

Bottom line though is that we see through it. It's not going to work. I obviously don't care what someone thinks of me who denies the obvious, and I urge you to do the same. Their credibility was lost long ago. Hang in there, and keep on sharing the truth! Thanks for posting.

:BigApplause:

I had hoped we had seen the last of Affald though. See he is posting again.

Do have a lot of people on my Ignore List. I have often been way too sensitive for my own good. Their hero-- Donald John Trump-- used bullying to very good affect but this is not working all that well now that he actually has to get things done as POTUS.

dirtbanker
04-22-2017, 07:40 PM
You're right! It's simply pathetic schoolyard bullying. I guess it's been working for them since they pushed people around and made fun of them on the elementary school playground, and it's still all they have. No facts. No logic. No rational thought. And certainly no questioning of what is right in front of their face. All of us who have questioned any of the lies and lunacy of the Trump Presidency on this website have faced this type of insane childish criticism. His supporters can't argue the facts so they attempt to attack the speaker.

Bottom line though is that we see through it. It's not going to work. I obviously don't care what someone thinks of me who denies the obvious, and I urge you to do the same. Their credibility was lost long ago. Hang in there, and keep on sharing the truth! Thanks for posting.

:BigApplause:

You are encouraging a wackadoodle to continue posting in here and suggest he "hang in there"...the guy is age 50+ living with his parents, has not had a job in 17 years, started a thread about librarians and has made 90% of the posts himself...and you think it would be a good idea for him to hang in there on a forum with an abundance of school yard bullying...

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affald
04-22-2017, 07:48 PM
I had hoped we had seen the last of Affald though. See he is posting again.

Do have a lot of people on my Ignore List. I have often been way too sensitive for my own good. Their hero-- Donald John Trump-- used bullying to very good affect but this is not working all that well now that he actually has to get things done as POTUS.
Stop bullying me Jon.

And Why do you keep calling me a he?

banjobob
04-24-2017, 06:45 PM
It is easy to spot the embedded "Progressives" when they rave how great Obama and "Rules for Radicals" policies along with Hillary and her constant lying and corruption are touted as being the path to the future. It is no secret the patriotic Democrats won't support it and the loss of elections from local to state to federal proves the point. It was reported Maxine Waters and Elizabeth Warren are being considered for 2020 with their unhinged DNC chairman this should be fun to watch.

MDLNB
04-25-2017, 04:46 AM
It is easy to spot the embedded "Progressives" when they rave how great Obama and "Rules for Radicals" policies along with Hillary and her constant lying and corruption are touted as being the path to the future. It is no secret the patriotic Democrats won't support it and the loss of elections from local to state to federal proves the point. It was reported Maxine Waters and Elizabeth Warren are being considered for 2020 with their unhinged DNC chairman this should be fun to watch.

Hope so. Maybe this will be the last we have to see the two idiots and the ultimate destruction of the perverted Democrat party. It would be an easy win for the GOP.

dillywho
04-25-2017, 09:00 AM
And, if there was a crime committed, there would be an indictment and trial.......where were those? Do you believe that in a Republican controlled Congress, that she could get away with any of that? Perhaps it is because there was no real illegal activity, and you just bought the Republican talking points, which, by the way, have been debunked and the reports of the committee have shown that their activity was a political witch hunt.

So, let that rest for a bit, and please inform me why, when over 90 people (American citizens) died in embassy attacks under Bush and Powell, were there no Congressional committees investigating those incidents.

Here is an interesting poll finding by Pew Research: prior to the election, less than 20% of Republicans felt that the economy was good, after the election over 80% of Republicans thought the economy was good. But, there was little, if any change in the economy during this past few months. So, if there is little ACTUAL change, it is the perception of who holds the presidential office: and if that is true, then those Republicans only believe what Trump tells them......and so far major news sources have documented well over 173 lies that Trump has told so far and that is a modest estimate because the number keeps growing.

I believe in factual discussion, I don't think that you have facts to support your opinion, but I am open to you providing actual verifiable factual data that we can openly debate. If you cannot provide that data (again that is verifiable and factual, not from pundits, or blogs, or editorials, or ultra-right or ultra-left wing sources) I would be more than eager to match your data with mine.

If you provide opinion, non-factual non-verifiable data, I will assume, as many other who have an intelligent perspective, that you have a problem with critical thinking, that you have a problem with reality, or that you have a chemical dependence problem, to name just a few things that clouds ones' ability to engage in intelligent discourse.

The other problem that you may have is that because you cannot intelligently argue a good case for Trump, you bring up old Republican talking points that have been proven false. Those types of people normally are in their first stages of dementia, or need to be in protective wards, and perhaps your family should consider one for you.

You asked for "factual" discussion, not opinion, and I provided it. Strangely, rather not so strangely, there has been no response. Suppose why that is? Did you even listen to the youtube recordings? My guesses would be that 1) either you didn't bother, or 2) you didn't like what you heard. Funny how that works. And just so you know, my doctor is required each year to test for early signs of dementia; I passed with flying colors. I have no substance abuse problems, either. As for critical thinking and the ability to handle things, you couldn't follow me around for even one day without crying 'uncle' and giving up.

Warren Kiefer
04-25-2017, 11:03 AM
[QUOTE=Guest]You asked for "factual" discussion, not opinion, and I provided it. Strangely, rather not so strangely, there has been no response. Suppose why that is? Did you even listen to the youtube recordings? My guesses would be that 1) either you didn't bother, or 2) you didn't like what you heard. Funny how that works. And just so you know, my doctor is required each year to test for early signs of dementia; I passed with flying colors. I have no substance abuse problems, either. As for critical thinking and the ability to handle things, you couldn't follow me around for even one day without crying 'uncle' and giving up.[/QUOT

Republicans find it so easy to put aside facts such as these.. They would rather believe that Michelle Obama is actually a man. Barack is gay and their daughters were fathered by someone else.

autumnspring
04-25-2017, 12:45 PM
Are all of you BRAINWASHED! Come on, when will you start to join the
Real world. I know you must know that this is a man that needs mental help.
You should be concerned that Trump will do anything as a deversion, rather than EVER ADMIT THAT HE IS WRONG! How many times will you let this country down by turning your back to his OBVIOUS errors in judgement.
I know that if his tax return was available to Congress, the fall of TRUMP would be immediate, and you know that also!!

Insert OBAMA-HILLARY AND BILL.
Find yourself a COLORING BOOK.

dillywho
04-26-2017, 10:35 AM
[QUOTE=Guest]You asked for "factual" discussion, not opinion, and I provided it. Strangely, rather not so strangely, there has been no response. Suppose why that is? Did you even listen to the youtube recordings? My guesses would be that 1) either you didn't bother, or 2) you didn't like what you heard. Funny how that works. And just so you know, my doctor is required each year to test for early signs of dementia; I passed with flying colors. I have no substance abuse problems, either. As for critical thinking and the ability to handle things, you couldn't follow me around for even one day without crying 'uncle' and giving up.[/QUOT

Republicans find it so easy to put aside facts such as these.. They would rather believe that Michelle Obama is actually a man. Barack is gay and their daughters were fathered by someone else.

No, these are FACTS about the Benghazi LIES straight out of the mouths of Obama, Clinton, and Rice said on national television. Just because you refuse to acknowledge their lies has nothing to do with Republicans setting aside facts. They are not the ones denying or refusing to acknowledge what liberals choose to ignore, refuse to believe, or are in denial.

MDLNB
04-26-2017, 12:56 PM
[QUOTE=Guest]

No, these are FACTS about the Benghazi LIES straight out of the mouths of Obama, Clinton, and Rice said on national television. Just because you refuse to acknowledge their lies has nothing to do with Republicans setting aside facts. They are not the ones denying or refusing to acknowledge what liberals choose to ignore, refuse to believe, or are in denial.

:thumbup:

cologal
04-26-2017, 01:03 PM
What did the Crooked Hillary supporter think when it became evident she had been lying all along...Oh that's right you voted for the biatch because she was a woman

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And you voted for Trump because he was a MAN?

dirtbanker
04-26-2017, 03:57 PM
And you voted for Trump because he was a MAN?
Sort of...

Lol. No, I voted for Trump cause he was the best choice on the ballot. Was he perfect, hell no. Was he better than Crooked Hillary, hell yes!

I guess I could have done what the idiot with "50 years experience in the political arena" did and vote for somebody that was not running for president...because I did not think any of the candidates were perfect in my eyes. Then non stop whining about the winner!



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Rockyrd
04-26-2017, 04:00 PM
Sort of...

Lol. No, I voted for Trump cause he was the best choice on the ballot. Was he perfect, hell no. Was he better than Crooked Hillary, hell yes!

I guess I could have done what the idiot with "50 years experience in the political arena" did and vote for somebody that was not running for president...because I did not think any of the candidates were perfect in my eyes. Then non stop whining about the winner!



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And may I ask who you voted for in the primary ?

dirtbanker
04-26-2017, 04:29 PM
And may I ask who you voted for in the primary ?
Ask anything you want. And I will be happy to answer, after you respond to my questions that you
Ignored...


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Rockyrd
04-26-2017, 04:43 PM
Ask anything you want. And I will be happy to answer, after you respond to my questions that you
Ignored...


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Not sure what question you refer to, but will stay on for a few minutes and try. If you asked why I voted as I did....I already answered.

My write in for McCollum was based on voting every election I can recall, and in good conscience I could not vote for either Trump or Clinton. I knew what I was doing but casting a vote is important to me and I found the two major candidates to both be offensive. In addition, I did consider simply avoiding the top line, but to me, and this is my vote, it was sort of a rebel vote.

MDLNB
04-27-2017, 03:46 AM
Not sure what question you refer to, but will stay on for a few minutes and try. If you asked why I voted as I did....I already answered.

My write in for McCollum was based on voting every election I can recall, and in good conscience I could not vote for either Trump or Clinton. I knew what I was doing but casting a vote is important to me and I found the two major candidates to both be offensive. In addition, I did consider simply avoiding the top line, but to me, and this is my vote, it was sort of a rebel vote.

That is the dumbest explanation for wasting a vote I have heard yet. You DO realize that you are admitting to being stupid?

affald
04-27-2017, 03:48 AM
That is the dumbest explanation for wasting a vote I have heard yet. You DO realize that you are admitting to being stupid?
Only a moron would write in a vote for someone who has zero chance. Anything this Moron says is forever ignored!

ColdNoMore
04-27-2017, 06:31 AM
Only a moron would write in a vote for someone who has zero chance. Anything this Moron says is forever ignored!

Wrong again. :oops:

Voting for someone who you believe best aligns with your own beliefs and/or think will be the best leader of this country, instead of the person (regardless of being a lying, narcissistic nutcase) just because they have the right letter in front of their name...takes character and ethics.

I know, I know, my point is too far above your head for a cultist to understand...but hey, it was worth a shot. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes:. :wave:

dirtbanker
04-27-2017, 06:54 AM
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Voting for someone who you believe best aligns with your own beliefs and/or think will be the best leader of this country, instead of the person (regardless of being a lying, narcissistic nutcase) just because they have the right letter in front of their name...takes character and ethics.

Nice try...

Anyone that votes for a person that is not running in an election might as well stay home and stick his thumb up his a$$. The idiot could have voted for "Papa Smurf" and it would have the same effect - NOTHING!

Stop throwing around words like "character" and "ethics"...anyone that would lie about making a charitable contribution has little experience with those traits.

Don Baldwin
04-27-2017, 06:59 AM
Only a moron would write in a vote for someone who has zero chance. Anything this Moron says is forever ignored!

Only a moron would vote for a D or R candidate. KNOWING they are the LESSER evil...but still VERY evil.

Don Baldwin
04-27-2017, 07:06 AM
Wrong again. :oops:

Voting for someone who you believe best aligns with your own beliefs and/or think will be the best leader of this country, instead of the person (regardless of being a lying, narcissistic nutcase) just because they have the right letter in front of their name...takes character and ethics.

I know, I know, my point is too far above your head for a cultist to understand...but hey, it was worth a shot. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes:. :wave:

Oh please...YOU voted for Hillary...a D...you'd have voted for ANY D over Trump. You're as sleazy as Hillary is with your dishonesty.

Taltarzac725
04-27-2017, 07:09 AM
Oh please...YOU voted for Hillary...a D...you'd have voted for ANY D over Trump. You're as sleazy as Hillary is with your dishonesty.

Not true for some of us. I would have voted for almost any of the people in the Republican field except for that con man, fraud and liar Donald John Trump. We did not need another Clinton in the White House. But we sure do not need Trump.

ColdNoMore
04-27-2017, 07:23 AM
Oh please...YOU voted for Hillary...a D...you'd have voted for ANY D over Trump. You're as sleazy as Hillary is with your dishonesty.

Nice try, but trying to explain why I thought she would make the best leader (between two less than ideal candidates)...is much too complicated for a simpleton cultist like yourself. :oops:


Deepest Sincere Wishes:. :wave:

ColdNoMore
04-27-2017, 07:42 AM
Nice try...

Anyone that votes for a person that is not running in an election might as well stay home and stick his thumb up his a$$. The idiot could have voted for "Papa Smurf" and it would have the same effect - NOTHING!

Stop throwing around words like "character" and "ethics"...
As predicted, I didn't expect you to understand those foreign words such as "character" & "ethics." :oops:



..anyone that would lie about making a charitable contribution has little experience with those traits.

:1rotfl:

While certainly not a lie, the fact that you take great umbrage with me donating to very many great social causes...really tickles the cockles of my heart. :D

Thanks for the chuckles. :thumbup:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

dirtbanker
04-27-2017, 08:24 AM
While certainly not a lie, the fact that you take great umbrage with me donating to very many great social causes...really tickles the cockles of my heart.

Well it most certainly was a lie, told directly by you:
Au contraire.

Don't sell DirtBag short.

He is definitely a cockroach also.

I've already sent in $100....with 10 poster's names. :D

dirtbanker
04-27-2017, 08:28 AM
Next the (unt will be claiming she did not infer that people that do not speak good English are undocumented...
And, she will forget how she took her spouse to a 3rd world country for dentistry work and her terrific healthcare insurance will not cover "major medical issues" the spouse has incurred (due to the (unt's cheapness).
All examples of her "character" and "ethics"...

Don Baldwin
04-27-2017, 08:33 AM
Nice try, but trying to explain why I thought she would make the best leader (between two less than ideal candidates)...is much too complicated for a simpleton cultist like yourself. :oops:


Deepest Sincere Wishes:. :wave:

This country is running off a cliff...NO D or R is going to save it. EVERYTHING is politicized.

Hispanics ARE the majority of kids...within 30 years they are THE majority...and America is lost.

EVERYTHING else is moot.

The worlds POOR make up 80%, 6 billion of the total population. How long can we hold them up? How many more CAN we feed?

We are drowning in poverty. Half the US population receives a government benefit...something "free" from the government. Healthcare costs the government a $ trillion a year. The number of people being served continues to grow. People are aging, costing more. It's unsustainable. The government CAN'T subsidize over half the population. How high can the debt go? That's the question. And what happens to "America" when the Hispanic absolute majority arrives? Will it as I fear become Mexico II? Judging by the border states and counties...it will. The western states are already Mexico II.

You knoweth NOT what you do...seeking "justice" you are condeming your race to extinction. THEY will not be as kind to US as we were to them... Are you familiar with S Africa? The other former African Colonies handed over to blacks? They're nightmares...for EVERYONE and especially whites.

They are NOT us...look how they continue to live in Africa. Slavery, genocide, they ARE animals...apes who can talk. They can't run a modern society, they can't LIVE in one either.

ColdNoMore
04-28-2017, 08:31 AM
Well it most certainly was a lie, told directly by you:

Next the (unt will be claiming she did not infer that people that do not speak good English are undocumented...
And, she will forget how she took her spouse to a 3rd world country for dentistry work and her terrific healthcare insurance will not cover "major medical issues" the spouse has incurred (due to the (unt's cheapness).
All examples of her "character" and "ethics"...

:1rotfl:

Living in your empty head rent free is a bit lonely...so maybe I can sublet? :D

As to your lies, I'm sorry if my honesty, integrity and the fact that I don't lie (no need to) bothers you so much...but you're just gonna have to live with it. ;)

And it's obvious why smart people don't share too much personal info here, because scumbags like yourself and the nasty, passive-aggressive Graceless have nothing better to do than expunge their own insecurities by nosing around...and then trying to use that information to attack their superiors. :ho:

Remember, there's nothing stopping you from posting your own/spouses/relatives real names/addresses...so got for it. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

jebartle
04-28-2017, 02:43 PM
John Kasich would have been a better choice.

dirtbanker
04-28-2017, 04:03 PM
John Kasich would have been a better choice.

Then why did you vote for Crooked Hillary??

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