Developer purchases MORE land

[champion6]

The Villages has purchased 652 acres of land south of County Road 44 that will guarantee golf cart access down to the Village of Fenney and the Village of Southern Oaks.

The announcement of the purchase was made Saturday night at a meeting for Villages sales associates.

The land is located near the Rohan Recreation Center south of County Road 44 and along County Road 468.

[mic4me]

Shouldn't be a surprise to anyone. Now watch for the white space to start getting filled in and move further south. Orlando, here we come.

[karostay]

Don't expect your property values to rise anytime soon

[graciegirl]

Don't expect your property values to rise anytime soon

I will say what I have been saying. Baby Boomers are retiring at about ten thousand a day for the next 19 years. I think our property values are pretty solid.

We aren't stupid and we bought here, why shouldn't a lot of them?

AND someone is going to build around us, I would prefer it is the Morses. They have the hang of it.

[rustyp]

Fact or fiction ? Were not the present purchasers of new homes in Fenney told there would be no golf cart connection ?

[Bogie Shooter]

Fact or fiction ? Were not the present purchasers of new homes in Fenney told there would be no golf cart connection ?

Up until Saturday night......that was the truth.

[rustyp]

Up until Saturday night......that was the truth.

Perhaps they purchased because there was to be no connection. Wonder if they have to wait a year before selling. Sounds like a breach of an implied contract.

[graciegirl]

Perhaps they purchased because there was to be no connection. Wonder if they have to wait a year before selling. Sounds like a breach of an implied contract.

??????

[thelegges]

Perhaps they purchased because there was to be no connection. Wonder if they have to wait a year before selling. Sounds like a breach of an implied contract.

We were told when we looked at a house, at the present time they did not own the property to connect by golf cart. However they were in negotiations and we're hopeful. You can choose to take your golf cart wherever you want. Now it will be golf cart accessible Fenny residents will have less cars from our part of town to drive down to use their amenities. Our neighbors who bought were hoping for cart access.

[rustyp]

We were told when we looked at a house, at the present time they did not own the property to connect by golf cart. However they were in negotiations and we're hopeful. You can choose to take your golf cart wherever you want. Now it will be golf cart accessible Fenny residents will have less cars from our part of town to drive down to use their amenities. Our neighbors who bought were hoping for cart access.

Thanks - that is a lot different then being told there would be no connection. Sounds like honesty did prevail.

[thelegges]

Perhaps they purchased because there was to be no connection. Wonder if they have to wait a year before selling. Sounds like a breach of an implied contract.

Since I do not have any idea of what was on peoples minds when they bought in Fenny. I can't even answer that question. We would Buy because of the house, the walking paths, zero entry pool, nature

[rustyp]

??????

What's the question quick draw ?

[graciegirl]

What's the question quick draw ?

Gosh, Thank you. No one has ever called me that and I had perfectly good Dale Evans capguns back when.

I think that people will adjust to having a cart path to Fenney and all will be well. We are usually used to plans being changed unexpectedly...at our age.

[rustyp]

Gosh, Thank you. No one has ever called me that and I had perfectly good Dale Evans capguns back when.

I think that people will adjust to having a cart path to Fenney and all will be well. We are usually used to plans being changed unexpectedly...at our age.

My post was sincere - I could understand some people wanting to live in The Villages with a little bit less hustle and bustle. In fact my thought process was / is anyone that purchased in Fenney probably wanted a little isolation. Thus what exactly were they told on one of the biggest investments of their lives. I don't know - I'm asking.

[dbussone]

Gosh, Thank you. No one has ever called me that and I had perfectly good Dale Evans capguns back when.



I think that people will adjust to having a cart path to Fenney and all will be well. We are usually used to plans being changed unexpectedly...at our age.



But we will need more gas stations enroute, and I think electric golf carts will have greater difficulty making long hauls. (P.S., I had a Gene Autry outfit - chaps, gun & holster.)


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[zonerboy]

So you can drive your golf cart down to Highway 44 from Fenney or from the existing Villages north of 44. But how do you get across??? Since the development of areas adjacent to Highway 44 on the north side, there have been multiple serious traffic accidents at all Village streets intersecting 44 (Morse Blvd, Buena Vista, and Powell Rd). These have all involved vehicles attempting either to cross or turn onto this Highway which has a speed limit of 55 mph. And this is despite the fact that there are traffic lights at all 3 intersections. Add golf carts to the mix and who knows what the carnage will be.
I seriously doubt that the developers will be able to acquire permits to tunnel under this Highway or to build a bridge over it.
Greed at work!!!

[Fred R]

Don't expect your property values to rise anytime soon


Excellent point. Village sales agents are concentrating on new homes. Preowned is secondary. Those of us who own preowned homes and hoped to be able to realize a deceit profit will be lucky to make back what we paid for it if we owned less than 5 yrs, especially when you deduct all those sale fees. Great for the developer. Not so great for the home owner IMHO

[Lblueocala]

We just closed in Fenney. Anyone with with common sense would know that the Villages will make it all connect. They will not announce what they are buying in land just like Disney went about buying land for Disney World. It's easier to use golf cart when it comes to parking. Four carts fit parking space compared to one car. We're Floridan's and have watched the whole thing developed over the years. There will always be negative nellies, just grumpy old people, dating themselves, lighten up. If you don't like what's happening stay in your house or go back where you come from.

[Bogie Shooter]

So you can drive your golf cart down to Highway 44 from Fenney or from the existing Villages north of 44. But how do you get across??? Since the development of areas adjacent to Highway 44 on the north side, there have been multiple serious traffic accidents at all Village streets intersecting 44 (Morse Blvd, Buena Vista, and Powell Rd). These have all involved vehicles attempting either to cross or turn onto this Highway which has a speed limit of 55 mph. And this is despite the fact that there are traffic lights at all 3 intersections. Add golf carts to the mix and who knows what the carnage will be.
I seriously doubt that the developers will be able to acquire permits to tunnel under this Highway or to build a bridge over it.
Greed at work!!!

Greed?

[Polar Bear]

We just closed in Fenney. Anyone with with common sense would know that the Villages will make it all connect. They will not announce what they are buying in land just like Disney went about buying land for Disney World. It's easier to use golf cart when it comes to parking. Four carts fit parking space compared to one car. We're Floridan's and have watched the whole thing developed over the years. There will always be negative nellies, just grumpy old people, dating themselves, lighten up. If you don't like what's happening stay in your house or go back where you come from.
Pretty well sums it up.

[Bogie Shooter]

Excellent point. Village sales agents are concentrating on new homes. Preowned is secondary. Those of us who own preowned homes and hoped to be able to realize a deceit profit will be lucky to make back what we paid for it if we owned less than 5 yrs, especially when you deduct all those sale fees. Great for the developer. Not so great for the home owner IMHO

The same article in today's DS also stated in 2016 TV sold 1921 new homes and 2159 preowned.
In addition there would be thousands more sold by other realtors.
Looks to me like there is a market for preowned homes.

[champion6]

Excellent point. Village sales agents are concentrating on new homes. Preowned is secondary. <snip>Did you notice the sidebar to the article?
PROPERTIES OF THE VILLAGES TOTAL SALES AND LISTING RESULTS FOR FISCAL YEAR 2016

1 -- 1,921 new hones sold
2 -- 2,159 pre-owned homes sold
3 -- 2,159 closed listings
4 -- 6,239 transactions
5 -- 60 average days on market
6 -- 97% average list to sales price

Any agent who ignores selling pre-owned homes won't be around for much longer.

[champion6]

So you can drive your golf cart down to Highway 44 from Fenney or from the existing Villages north of 44. But how do you get across??? Since the development of areas adjacent to Highway 44 on the north side, there have been multiple serious traffic accidents at all Village streets intersecting 44 (Morse Blvd, Buena Vista, and Powell Rd). These have all involved vehicles attempting either to cross or turn onto this Highway which has a speed limit of 55 mph. And this is despite the fact that there are traffic lights at all 3 intersections. Add golf carts to the mix and who knows what the carnage will be.
I seriously doubt that the developers will be able to acquire permits to tunnel under this Highway or to build a bridge over it.
Greed at work!!!It's your right to "seriously doubt that the developers will be able to acquire permits to tunnel under this Highway or to build a bridge over it."

My opinion - based on quotes in the article from Mark Morse, Kelsea Morse Manly and Jennifer Parr - is that it's only a matter of time. Oh, and the title of the article, "Golf Car Connectivity For Entire Community."

You can attribute their plans to greed. I give them credit for developing a smart business plan.

[Bonny]

I think many of us assumed they would get the property and it would eventually connect with Fenney. The family knows how to get things done.
I say "Woo Hoo Morse Family"!! The more the merrier!! Love the Villages. :D

[rubicon]

The Villages has purchased 652 acres of land south of County Road 44 that will guarantee golf cart access down to the Village of Fenney and the Village of Southern Oaks.

The announcement of the purchase was made Saturday night at a meeting for Villages sales associates.

The land is located near the Rohan Recreation Center south of County Road 44 and along County Road 468.

yea this is a real surprise. Your going to need a lottery system to get a tee time

[thelegges]

We just closed in Fenney. Anyone with with common sense would know that the Villages will make it all connect. They will not announce what they are buying in land just like Disney went about buying land for Disney World. It's easier to use golf cart when it comes to parking. Four carts fit parking space compared to one car. We're Floridan's and have watched the whole thing developed over the years. There will always be negative nellies, just grumpy old people, dating themselves, lighten up. If you don't like what's happening stay in your house or go back where you come from.

We fell in love with a house, the curving roads, all the trees left standing, you will love it. We will wait for awhile need to sell some Real estate before we move again. But very much looking for how it will evolve.

[RVRoadie]

Wonder if the folks at Continental Country Club feel like sitting ducks, waiting to be picked off.

[slipcovers]

Crossing 44 shouldn't be a problem, they did it at BV. Why not Morse?

I am curious how they are going to keep the people in the trailer parks, along the way, off the MMP.

[rustyp]

Wonder if the folks at Continental Country Club feel like sitting ducks, waiting to be picked off.

Probably more like the goose that laid the golden egg. How ironic a certain faction here dreaming about increasing property values after build out. The big winners will be the owners of manufactured homes in the way of The Villages progress. I suspect 5 - 10x original investment at least.

[champion6]

Crossing 44 shouldn't be a problem, they did it at BV. Why not Morse? <snip> .No they didn't do it at BV. I agree that it shouldn't be a problem.

[drcar]

So you can drive your golf cart down to Highway 44 from Fenney or from the existing Villages north of 44. But how do you get across??? Since the development of areas adjacent to Highway 44 on the north side, there have been multiple serious traffic accidents at all Village streets intersecting 44 (Morse Blvd, Buena Vista, and Powell Rd). These have all involved vehicles attempting either to cross or turn onto this Highway which has a speed limit of 55 mph. And this is despite the fact that there are traffic lights at all 3 intersections. Add golf carts to the mix and who knows what the carnage will be.
I seriously doubt that the developers will be able to acquire permits to tunnel under this Highway or to build a bridge over it.
Greed at work!!!

You you don't think they will be able to get over or under the highways you have been living under a rock. The plans are in place just not announced yet.

Greed at Work? I always thought the idea for businesses was to make money. As far as I can tell they will continue until they can't. ITS the AMERICAN way!

[drcar]

yea this is a real surprise. Your going to need a lottery system to get a tee time

LOL, there will be three more Championship courses, and the answer is and always is, if people don't like it move!

[slipcovers]

No they didn't do it at BV. I agree that it shouldn't be a problem.

They did cross BV at 466A, and 44 is narrower. I should said 466A

[Bogie Shooter]

yea this is a real surprise. Your going to need a lottery system to get a tee time

I was curious, so I went to look how may open tee times were available for tomorrow (this is Sunday) at all Championship courses.
There were 92 foursome tee times before noon and I quit counting............
Looks like it will be awhile before a lottery system is needed.

[Bogie Shooter]

LOL, there will be three more Championship courses, and the answer is and always is, if people don't like it move!

3 champs is new news.

[drcar]

3 champs is new news.

"So let it be written, so let it be done" Time will tell, heck no one is could believe what has transpired over the last year!

[golfing eagles]

"So let it be written, so let it be done" Time will tell, heck no one is could believe what has transpired over the last year!

I agree, Dave. I was thinking 3 champ courses just based on the number of homes, and about a dozen or so execs as well. Probably another town square, 2 regional rec centers and 2 shopping plazas. And let's not forget the obligatory 176 branches of Citizen's First

[dbussone]

Excellent point. Village sales agents are concentrating on new homes. Preowned is secondary. Those of us who own preowned homes and hoped to be able to realize a deceit profit will be lucky to make back what we paid for it if we owned less than 5 yrs, especially when you deduct all those sale fees. Great for the developer. Not so great for the home owner IMHO



When a lot of us bought here it had nothing to do with seeking a profit. Any profit will most likely go to our kids. I have no interest in leaving.


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[thelegges]

3 champs is new news.

We were told two for sure, three a possible

[Chi-Town]

It's nothing but good news that 44 is not the stopping point. The Villages should be connected from top to bottom. It makes us one community as it should be.

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[Jdmiata]

With the present drought and the bottling of nearby water , my only concern is where will the water come from ?

[patfla06]

Actually The last Baby Boomers will turn 65 in 12 years.

Remember, a lot of the last Boomers will not have pensions like many of us do.

[rustyp]

Went for the big ride today and visited Fenney. Beautiful entrance under the oaks and ponds. About 2 tenths of a mile past the beauty looks like the Mohave desert. Oh yes I know the landscaping will grow fast. If you pay close attention kissing lanai's have been perfected along with the above ground eyesore utilities between them. Toured two open houses low end $179 - 200K. Good quality - I didn't see it. Bad quality - I didn't see it. Passes code is what I seen. Not for me- needs much more disclosure of why I would want to be there. I actually think not being connected to The Villages (less hustle and bustle) would be a better sales feature than if it is the same. Why would you want to be there. The few premiere houses (and I said few) that are around the entrance Oaks and ponds were nice.

[dbussone]

It's nothing but good news that 44 is not the stopping point. The Villages should be connected from top to bottom. It makes us one community as it should be.

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[kcrazorbackfan]

It's nothing but good news that 44 is not the stopping point. The Villages should be connected from top to bottom. It makes us one community as it should be.

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:agree::agree: Well said.

[ColdNoMore]

Went for the big ride today and visited Fenney. Beautiful entrance under the oaks and ponds. About 2 tenths of a mile past the beauty looks like the Mohave desert. Oh yes I know the landscaping will grow fast. If you pay close attention kissing lanai's have been perfected along with the above ground eyesore utilities between them. Toured two open houses low end $179 - 200K. Good quality - I didn't see it. Bad quality - I didn't see it. Passes code is what I seen. Not for me- needs much more disclosure of why I would want to be there. I actually think not being connected to The Villages (less hustle and bustle) would be a better sales feature than if it is the same. Why would you want to be there. The few premiere houses (and I said few) that are around the entrance Oaks and ponds were nice.

I drove around there today also and was impressed with the entrance and the short area to the right as you come in...but certainly not the rest.

In fact, the houses being built looked closer to each other and on flatter terrain...than almost anywhere else in the existing Villages.

NOT impressed in the least.

A big question I have, is why the street signs have a logo that says... "City of Wildwood" (est??) on each of them? :confused:

[dbussone]

I drove around there today also and was impressed with the entrance and the short area to the right as you come in...but certainly not the rest.



In fact, the houses being built looked closer to each other and on flatter terrain...than almost anywhere else in the existing Villages.



NOT impressed in the least.



A big question I have, is why the street signs have a logo that says... "City of Wildwood" (est??) on each of them? :confused:



So you know where to send your taxes, of course.


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[twoplanekid]

I drove around there today also and was impressed with the entrance and the short area to the right as you come in...but certainly not the rest.

In fact, the houses being built looked closer to each other and on flatter terrain...than almost anywhere else in the existing Villages.

NOT impressed in the least.

A big question I have, is why the street signs have a logo that says... "City of Wildwood" (est??) on each of them? :confused:



Fenney was annexed into the city of Wildwood as most of the other new lands under development.

[RickeyD]

I drove around there today also and was impressed with the entrance and the short area to the right as you come in...but certainly not the rest.



In fact, the houses being built looked closer to each other and on flatter terrain...than almost anywhere else in the existing Villages.



NOT impressed in the least.



A big question I have, is why the street signs have a logo that says... "City of Wildwood" (est??) on each of them? :confused:



So the residents know who their new masters are of course [emoji6]

[JoMar]

I drove around there today also and was impressed with the entrance and the short area to the right as you come in...but certainly not the rest.

In fact, the houses being built looked closer to each other and on flatter terrain...than almost anywhere else in the existing Villages.

NOT impressed in the least.

A big question I have, is why the street signs have a logo that says... "City of Wildwood" (est??) on each of them? :confused:

Don't think anyone cares if you are impressed, they do care that those that want to move there are impressed. You do know that The Villages are part Wildwood, part Fruitland Park and part Lady Lake right?

[twoplanekid]

Don't think anyone cares if you are impressed, they do care that those that want to move there are impressed. You do know that The Villages are part Wildwood, part Fruitland Park and part Lady Lake right?


And other areas are in Sumter, Lake or Marion counties but not in the above mentioned cities.

[NYGUY]

I think it is a smart move to keep all of The Villages connected via golf carts. It is a big part of what The Villages is. Individuals will decide how far they want to travel by cart.

[VillagerNut]

LOL, there will be three more Championship courses, and the answer is and always is, if people don't like it move!

There are going to be at this time two executive nine hole courses in Fenney. They are not championship courses. When I took the tour just a few weeks ago they have no plans to add championship courses in that area.

[golfing eagles]

There are going to be at this time two executive nine hole courses in Fenney. They are not championship courses. When I took the tour just a few weeks ago they have no plans to add championship courses in that area.

And last week they had no "plans" to connect areas south of 44 to the rest of TV. The developers are under no obligation to share their "plans" with us, but just as it was logical to guess that there would be a connection to the new southern villages, it is logical to guess that more golf courses are coming for 20,000 new homes.
A starter at one of the championship courses told me there would be no more golf courses(champ) since the starters "always" know 3 years in advance. One of the posters on the previous pages stated he expected 3 more champ courses, and he is a manager at one of our existing champ courses. Bottom line----the developers have not had a conversation with either of these people, much less the rest of us.

[Bay Kid]

Hopefully more golf courses!!!

[Regor]

Okay, it looks like y'all have decided that getting past 44 won't be a problem. But the Florida Turnpike is in the way also. Will it be worth it for the villages to spend lots of money (millions) just so golf carts can make the trip?

[kstew43]

Okay, it looks like y'all have decided that getting past 44 won't be a problem. But the Florida Turnpike is in the way also. Will it be worth it for the villages to spend lots of money (millions) just so golf carts can make the trip?

they already own the land with the bridge over the Turnpike. They bought that few years ago. Its a cattle crossing but I would bet that soon it will be a cart crossing.

[Steve9930]

I hear that once reaching the Gulf, they plan on creating more land by filling it in with rock and dirt. The goal is to reach all the way to the Mexican shore line.

[dbussone]

I hear that once reaching the Gulf, they plan on creating more land by filling it in with rock and dirt. The goal is to reach all the way to the Mexican shore line.



Nope. I have it on good authority that Cuba is the goal.


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[golfing eagles]

I hear that once reaching the Gulf, they plan on creating more land by filling it in with rock and dirt. The goal is to reach all the way to the Mexican shore line.

And what will they do if they reach Mexico---line the border with CYVs so there will be a wall????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[dbussone]

And what will they do if they reach Mexico---line the border with CYVs so there will be a wall????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:



CYVs with a beach. What a great marketing plan.


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[Bonny]

Nope. I have it on good authority that Cuba is the goal.


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Guess I better freshen up on my Spanish !! :1rotfl:

[champion6]

they already own the land with the bridge over the Turnpike. They bought that few years ago. Its a cattle crossing but I would bet that soon it will be a cart crossing.TV owns the land at the east end of the bridge. It doesn't own the land at the west end of the bridge.

[dbussone]

Guess I better freshen up on my Spanish !! :1rotfl:



I will need much more than a brush up. [emoji41]


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[pauld315]

Si Si !

[graciegirl]

TV owns the land at the east end of the bridge. It doesn't own the land at the west end of the bridge.

The Brooklyn Bridge?

[golfing eagles]

TV owns the land at the east end of the bridge. It doesn't own the land at the west end of the bridge.

Not that we know of,--- yet. Or there may be easements in place. I wonder who owns the actual bridge as well. I suspect there will be more to come, including cart crossing at Brownwood as they extend BV south of 44, and also a cart crossing at Rohan. I'm sure they'll find a way over or under the turnpike one way or another

[Bavarian]

When a lot of us bought here it had nothing to do with seeking a profit. Any profit will most likely go to our kids. I have no interest in leaving.


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You may want to sell to get a newer house on better land, smaller, or larger.You may need to sell to move into assisted living

So resale value and the chance to resell is always a question to consider.

[dbussone]

You may want to sell to get a newer house on better land, smaller, or larger.You may need to sell to move into assisted living



So resale value and the chance to resell is always a question to consider.



In that case, certainly.


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[billlaur]

they r very honest:wave:

[Cisco Kid]

We are The Villages. You will be assimilated. "Resistance is futile"

[twoplanekid]

How many years will it take to sell all of the projected new homes on the newly purchased land at a sales rate of 2,200 new homes per year? The Villages is at the mature stage of its life? From the Orlando paper in 2016 -> Sales drop in The Villages while Lake Nona sales grow - Orlando Sentinel (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/classified/realestate/os-cfb-villages-lake-nona-planned-communities-20160109-story.html)

Note: sales in 2016 were a little less than 2015 sales reported in the Orlando article.

However, maybe sales will increase with these land acquisitions?

[coffeebean]

With the present drought and the bottling of nearby water , my only concern is where will the water come from ?

Great question and concern. This is what I'm pondering too. Is there enough water for everyone?

[pauld315]

How many years will it take to sell all of the projected new homes on the newly purchased land at a sales rate of 2,200 new homes per year? The Villages is at the mature stage of its life? From the Orlando paper in 2016 -> Sales drop in The Villages while Lake Nona sales grow - Orlando Sentinel (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/classified/realestate/os-cfb-villages-lake-nona-planned-communities-20160109-story.html)

Note: sales in 2016 were a little less than 2015 sales reported in the Orlando article.

Maybe sales will increase?

Obviously, the author of this article is not informed that TV is buying up land and will soon be developing again at 2015 levels. There was a slowdown when TV thought they couldn't build anymore due to an agreement with Sumter County years ago. That agreement has been torn up and they can now build all they want.

[pauld315]

Great question and concern. This is what I'm pondering too. Is there enough water for everyone?

TV desalination plant coming to the Gulf of Mexico soon

[Steve9930]

Nope. I have it on good authority that Cuba is the goal.


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[Steve9930]

And what will they do if they reach Mexico---line the border with CYVs so there will be a wall????:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

:coolsmiley:

[Lblueocala]

Look at Spruce Creek and some of the other communities around the edges.

[Lblueocala]

I'm happy there are unimpressed people, the grumpy old negative nellies will go someplace else to live and stop trying to rain on everybody else's lives. Wouldn't want them for a neighbor because they have such bad outlook on live. These people are NEVER happy. They usual don't live very long lives, and want to drag everyone down to their depressing level.

[twoplanekid]

Obviously, the author of this article is not informed that TV is buying up land and will soon be developing again at 2015 levels. There was a slowdown when TV thought they couldn't build anymore due to an agreement with Sumter County years ago. That agreement has been torn up and they can now build all they want.

You have piqued my interest. What agreement are you referencing?

[Mleeja]

How many years will it take to sell all of the projected new homes on the newly purchased land at a sales rate of 2,200 new homes per year? The Villages is at the mature stage of its life? From the Orlando paper in 2016 -> Sales drop in The Villages while Lake Nona sales grow - Orlando Sentinel (http://www.orlandosentinel.com/classified/realestate/os-cfb-villages-lake-nona-planned-communities-20160109-story.html)

Note: sales in 2016 were a little less than 2015 sales reported in the Orlando article.

However, maybe sales will increase with these land acquisitions?

I do not think the Orlando Sentinel is a fan of The Villages or the Morse family. I would take anything written in this paper about The Villages with a healthy dose of skepticism.

[DARFAP]

We were told two for sure, three a possible
Who told you?

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[manaboutown]

When a lot of us bought here it had nothing to do with seeking a profit. Any profit will most likely go to our kids. I have no interest in leaving.


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The real profit has already gone to the developer - which is just fine.

[Barefoot]

I do not think the Orlando Sentinel is a fan of The Villages or the Morse family. I would take anything written in this paper about The Villages with a healthy dose of skepticism.
I so agree!!

[Nucky]

I will need much more than a brush up. [emoji41]


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Ay, Dios Mío, Got you covered do not worry Amigo. :a20:

[JMEZARIC3]

The Villages has purchased 652 acres of land south of County Road 44 that will guarantee golf cart access down to the Village of Fenney and the Village of Southern Oaks.

The announcement of the purchase was made Saturday night at a meeting for Villages sales associates.

The land is located near the Rohan Recreation Center south of County Road 44 and along County Road 468.

The area between 466 and 466A has 16 executive and 4 championship courses.The area south of 44 will have about the same number of homes.I hope they are planning more golf courses.

[Bonny]

You have piqued my interest. What agreement are you referencing?
There was a mutual agreement a few years back between the Villages & Sumter County that the Villages wouldn't build anymore in Sumter.
Most knew that wouldn't last long.

[thelegges]

The area between 466 and 466A has 16 executive and 4 championship courses.The area south of 44 will have about the same number of homes.I hope they are planning more golf courses.

Lots on a golf course command upwards of $100,000. Of course there will be more courses.

[RickeyD]

Lots on a golf course command upwards of $100,000. Of course there will be more cpurses.



Good point !

[pauld315]

There was a mutual agreement a few years back between the Villages & Sumter County that the Villages wouldn't build anymore in Sumter.
Most knew that wouldn't last long.

Right, it is my understanding that when the Morse's wanted permission to build south of 466 they had to sign an agreement with Sumter County that they would never build south of 44. That was torn up a few years ago, probably because of the economic impact. Sumter County was, at one time, one of the poorest counties in all of Florida.

[Marie1]

So you can drive your golf cart down to Highway 44 from Fenney or from the existing Villages north of 44. But how do you get across??? Since the development of areas adjacent to Highway 44 on the north side, there have been multiple serious traffic accidents at all Village streets intersecting 44 (Morse Blvd, Buena Vista, and Powell Rd). These have all involved vehicles attempting either to cross or turn onto this Highway which has a speed limit of 55 mph. And this is despite the fact that there are traffic lights at all 3 intersections. Add golf carts to the mix and who knows what the carnage will be.
I seriously doubt that the developers will be able to acquire permits to tunnel under this Highway or to build a bridge over it.
Greed at work!!!
A while back it was in the Daily Sun that Morse already had acquired Four permits for Four Tunnels to go under 44. Stating that it took too much time and was very costly when he crossed over 441 years ago, so this time quick and under without disrupting traffic in the process.

[justjim]

Excellent point. Village sales agents are concentrating on new homes. Preowned is secondary. Those of us who own preowned homes and hoped to be able to realize a deceit profit will be lucky to make back what we paid for it if we owned less than 5 yrs, especially when you deduct all those sale fees. Great for the developer. Not so great for the home owner IMHO

Our friends just sold their home (whispering Pine) in just five days. They made a profit after just six years. Isn't this a great place to live or what?

[hulahips]

Are they going to build more hospitals?

[twoplanekid]

Right, it is my understanding that when the Morse's wanted permission to build south of 466 they had to sign an agreement with Sumter County that they would never build south of 44. That was torn up a few years ago, probably because of the economic impact. Sumter County was, at one time, one of the poorest counties in all of Florida.

Interesting article from 2004 about politics and power changes to affect Villages building plans. -> ONE SUMTER ONE HOT ISSUE - News - Ocala.com - Ocala, FL (http://www.ocala.com/news/20040819/one-sumter-one-hot-issue)

[ColdNoMore]

Interesting article from 2004 about politics and power changes to affect Villages building plans. -> ONE SUMTER ONE HOT ISSUE - News - Ocala.com - Ocala, FL (http://www.ocala.com/news/20040819/one-sumter-one-hot-issue)

Good article on the history here.

Thanks. :thumbup:

[NJblue]

I was curious, so I went to look how may open tee times were available for tomorrow (this is Sunday) at all Championship courses.
There were 92 foursome tee times before noon and I quit counting............
Looks like it will be awhile before a lottery system is needed.

What about executive courses from January through March? On the morning after the requests turn to reservations there may be a handful of times for a foursome as the sun comes up (better wear your long johns and parka) and a few at the very end of the day (better bring a flashlight). Within a day, even these least desirable slots are taken. There is no way that the executive courses are keeping up with the population growth.

[JoMar]

Are they going to build more hospitals?

Not a question for the The Villages....building Hospitals would be the responsibility of the current owners of Lessburg and The Villages Hospital (Central Florida Health) or any other Health Care System that would choose to build here. As I understand it no hospital can be built or expanded without State Approval and that approval takes a lot of time and is restrictive since public money may be involved.

[Two Bills]

About time we had our own Airport! :plane: :plane:

[rustyp]

Our friends just sold their home (whispering Pine) in just five days. They made a profit after just six years. Isn't this a great place to live or what?

Was it a profit after the 6% reality fees + closing costs + upgrades (like landscaping) ?

[twoplanekid]

About time we had our own Airport! :plane: :plane:

YES! :MOJE_whot:

[JoMar]

YES! :MOJE_whot:

But would hanger space be affordable?

[twoplanekid]

But would hanger space be affordable?

Hangers have been built and are being built in Urbana, Ohio that are affordable. If we can do it in a community of 11,000 then the Villages should be able to make it happen!

[Lblueocala]

All new hospitals have to be approved by the state, based on long study, population, and needs in the area. They also look at current hospitals in the area, what class the ER is how many beds are available, how many of the beds are filled, and do patients have to be transferred because of lack of service not available.

[justjim]

Was it a profit after the 6% reality fees + closing costs + upgrades (like landscaping) ?

Yes, they made a few dollars after all expenses. They didn't get rich but they didn't get hit with a loss either. The house was in excellent condition, showed well and nicely landscaped. Sold through The Villages sales office.

[justjim]

About time we had our own Airport! :plane: :plane:

What about Leesburg Airport? It's pretty close.

[Challenger]

About time we had our own Airport! :plane: :plane:

Extremely expensive, depending on the level of service wanted. Some interesting stories about airports that were built at the costs of $millions that have completely flopped with enormous losses.

Careful what we wish for, we may get it.

[Maddie2009]

Anyone knows when they expect the road construction for the carts to be done and opened?

[thelegges]

Are they going to build more hospitals?

A CON ( certificate of need ) needs to be applied. State can send a denial at any time. Due to the influx of winter months than decrease for rest of year it could be difficult. More urgent cares would lighten the load on ED. It's the same rules for every state.

[dbussone]

A CON ( certificate of need ) needs to be applied. State can send a denial at any time. Due to the influx of winter months than decrease for rest of year it could be difficult. More urgent cares would lighten the load on ED. It's the same rules for every state.



Nope. There are states that do not require CoNs to build a hospital at all. You can build a hospital but it requires rigorous approval of plans. So you build your hospital and let the market decide if it will do well.

In NV, though, you can build your hospital, but must get approval for certain high level services like an NICU. There are lots of states like NV.

CoNs are found mainly in the North East. The South and Southwest are generally pretty open as far as allowing hospitals to be built. Even CA is fairly loose on building new hospitals, but relatively involved in high end services.


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[pauld315]

FYI...The Villages have added the sites of several new planned villages to their official map. Go to this website and you can zoom in on the land south of 44 and see the locations of each village.

The Villages - Map (https://www.thevillages.com/map/)

[batman911]

Does this now make Brownwood the center of TV? Maybe why the new hospital planned for the Brownwood area was cancelled to move it further south.

[Duppa]

:pepper2:The Villages has purchased 652 acres of land south of County Road 44 that will guarantee golf cart access down to the Village of Fenney and the Village of Southern Oaks.

The announcement of the purchase was made Saturday night at a meeting for Villages sales associates.

The land is located near the Rohan Recreation Center south of County Road 44 and along County Road 468.

Well, BOOM! There it is! Many of us called this long ago... and here it is! I say a GIANT WONDERFUL! The Villages, Florida, the BEST PLACE for RETIREMENT on EARTH! Bring it on, bring it all on! :pepper2:

[Bonny]

:pepper2:

Well, BOOM! There it is! Many of us called this long ago... and here it is! I say a GIANT WONDERFUL! The Villages, Florida, the BEST PLACE for RETIREMENT on EARTH! Bring it on, bring it all on! :pepper2:
Whoop, Whoop !!! I love it ! :pepper2:

[Packer Fan]

Now my house in Hillsborough is no longer on the southern end - it is in the Middle!

[Allegiance]

It's great the developer will have a stake in the villages for the rest of our lives. Amen

[Juliezappa]

I was looking at homes in Fenny about a month ago. 3 separate salespeople told me it wasn't possible to answer yes OR no regarding future access to other Villages by golf cart. All 3 seemed very ethical to me by saying that.

[golfing eagles]

I was looking at homes in Fenny about a month ago. 3 separate salespeople told me it wasn't possible to answer yes OR no regarding future access to other Villages by golf cart. All 3 seemed very ethical to me by saying that.

Just like the movie "Independence Day", it's called plausible deniability. They simply are not privy to the developers future plans.

[Barefoot]

Well, BOOM! There it is! Many of us called this long ago... and here it is! I say a GIANT WONDERFUL! The Villages, Florida, the BEST PLACE for RETIREMENT on EARTH! Bring it on, bring it all on! :pepper2:
:thumbup:

I was looking at homes in Fenny about a month ago. 3 separate salespeople told me it wasn't possible to answer yes OR no regarding future access to other Villages by golf cart. All 3 seemed very ethical to me by saying that.One reason, among many, that the Villages Developers are successful ....
They don't jeopardize their negotiation process by talking about their business plans ahead of the announcement dates. :ho:

[golfing eagles]

:thumbup:

One reason, among many, that the Villages Developers are successful ....
They don't jeopardize their negotiation process by talking about their business plans ahead of the announcement dates. :ho:


Maybe one of the seven new villages could be annexed by Canada and you could live here year round. (And deliver lobster):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[dbussone]

Maybe one of the seven new villages could be annexed by Canada and you could live here year round. (And deliver lobster):1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:



Or at least have a lobster pond which could be stocked by Canadian drones.


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[Barefoot]

Maybe one of the seven new villages could be annexed by Canada and you could live here year round. Perfect idea, we'd love to be able to stay more than 182 days in a calendar year!

[RickeyD]

Perfect idea, we'd love to be able to stay more than 182 days in a calendar year!



File for permanent residency. Way too cold up there !

[Barefoot]

File for permanent residency. Way too cold up there ! RickeyD, believe me, we would file for permanent residency if we could.
To get a green card you have to be working. There is no such thing as a retiree visa.
We are stuck in Canada for 183 days in a calendar year. :sigh:
Luckily we can spend winters in The Villages, and we appreciate that very much!

[Nucky]

But I got a guy.

[RickeyD]

But I got a guy.



Probably deported by now.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I took a ride to Fenney yesterday. I didn't realize it, but the entrance is 5 miles from Rte 44. Looking at the map I can see that 44 swings west so it's not 5 miles as the crow flies, but still it has to be three miles to Brownwood.

It also appears that golf carts are going to have to go under the Turnpike. It's going to be interesting to see how this is all done.

As someone stated, the demand must be there. These are not stupid people doing this. I'm sure that they understand the risks and rewards and the odds.

What's amazing is the sheer magnitude of a project like this. As you drive around the neighborhoods you see many, many houses being built at the same time. I can't imagine the amount of money needed to do a project like this.

[pauld315]

I took a ride to Fenney yesterday. I didn't realize it, but the entrance is 5 miles from Rte 44. Looking at the map I can see that 44 swings west so it's not 5 miles as the crow flies, but still it has to be three miles to Brownwood.
.

How does that compare to the distance (by golf cart) to get from Osceola Hills or Pine Hills to Brownwood ? I would bet it is close to 3 miles from either of those villages.

[justjim]

How does that compare to the distance (by golf cart) to get from Osceola Hills or Pine Hills to Brownwood ? I would bet it is close to 3 miles from either of those villages.

Yep, you are not far off (3 miles) or slightly more sounds about right. We live in LaBelle and it takes about twenty minutes or so to travel by golf cart to Brownwood. If it was much more, I would take the car. However, we will sometimes travel a greater distance to play golf. Go figure. :gc: