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Taltarzac725
04-27-2017, 09:27 PM
Imagine this scenario: Hillary Clinton is president. It's learned that she has deep ties to Putin and that there is evidence to suggest Putin influenced the election in her favor as a quid pro quo for easing sanctions on Russia. She puts utterly unqualified billionaires in cabinet posts and her daughter Chelsea in a position of influence in the West Wing. Chelsea's husband is her chief advisor. She refuses to release any tax returns, she blocks access to the visitor logs in the White House and Bill refuses to live in the White House so our tax dollars are spent keeping him safe in Chappaqua. Hillary spends almost every weekend in a resort that is marketed by her very presence and from which the Clinton Foundation draws profits. AND, in an interview, she names the wrong country she bombed while bragging about the chocolate cake she was eating while she ordered said bombing. One could just go on and on.
The point is that the outrage, the outcries, the screaming by opposing political party would be heard around the world and impeachment proceedings would already be underway.
This is what white male privilege looks like in the United States of America. Let's face it, if Hillary--or any female candidate--had five children from three partners she would never have survived the primary.

What do you think?

Don Baldwin
04-27-2017, 09:42 PM
Everyone had to put up with your darkie the last 8 years...now it's your turn to be disgusted.

Taltarzac725
04-27-2017, 09:43 PM
Everyone had to put up with your darkie the last 8 years...now it's your turn to be disgusted.

I did vote for him twice.

Don Baldwin
04-27-2017, 09:58 PM
I did vote for him twice.

Why?

Equal rights? Rights have never been so unequal since slavery. WHITE MEN are singled our for discrimination. Official quotas steal our positions, our jobs.

To give EVERYONE $1,000 a month in value healthcare? Healthcare that is unaffordable to the nation?

The environment? It's been warmer...naturally...without man helping it.

http://friendsofscience.org/assets/documents/FOS%20Essay/HoloceneOptimumTemperature.jpg

CO2 emissions? CO2 contributes less than 3% of the total greenhouse gas effect.

cologal
04-27-2017, 10:20 PM
Everyone had to put up with your darkie the last 8 years...now it's your turn to be disgusted.

He speaks again!

When Obama took the office the Dow was at 6,626 when he left office it was 19,887..... That was really good for the 401K so you should have been happy about that Don.

I was!

Don Baldwin
04-27-2017, 10:27 PM
He speaks again!

When Obama took the office the Dow was at 6,626 when he left office it was 19,887..... That was really good for the 401K so you should have been happy about that Don.

I was!

And it ONLY cost $10,000,000,000,000 ($10 trillion) or $30,000 per man woman and child, or $120,000 per family of four to do it! That includes the half the population who don't pay their fair share...it cost WHITE...WORKING families over $200,000. Was it worth it?

Topspinmo
04-27-2017, 11:08 PM
He speaks again!

When Obama took the office the Dow was at 6,626 when he left office it was 19,887..... That was really good for the 401K so you should have been happy about that Don.

I was!

now the time to get OUT OF THE STOCK MARKET, It's way overdue a BIG DUMP.

MDLNB
04-28-2017, 02:54 AM
He speaks again!

When Obama took the office the Dow was at 6,626 when he left office it was 19,887..... That was really good for the 401K so you should have been happy about that Don.

I was!

That was IN SPITE of Obama. What did he do to change anything for the positive? Nothing, is the correct answer. The economy was the slowest to respond in history. The recession had the slowest rebound in history of recessions and depressions. Obama was a hindrance, not a positive factor.
Obama has the record for being the ONLY president to NEVER have a 3% year average GDP growth during his tenure.
If you want more statistics on how poor the economy STILL is, I suggest a little reading at some of the government sites.

affald
04-28-2017, 04:06 AM
He speaks again!

When Obama took the office the Dow was at 6,626 when he left office it was 19,887..... That was really good for the 401K so you should have been happy about that Don.

I was!
So then Trump is a genius, as his relative market gains since election outweigh Obama's.


O wait, I know you use liberal logic..... nothing Trump does brilliantly can be true.


O wait post election day gains belong to Obama.

Don't know how the conservatives continue to deal with the liberals here.

Cololdlady truely does not have the brainwaves to debate, maybe she can discuss world events with Tal, then rocky can write a dissertation about their discussion, then cnm, can give it an "o dear," Then fat boy can stamp it fake.

rubicon
04-28-2017, 05:53 AM
Let me see Obama was elected because of the color of his skin. Therefore he resonated as a good show horse. He was nurtured and protected by progressives all, even given the Nobel Peace Prize just for showing up for work, beautified in the press and yet his performance record is factually dismal.

Hillary Clinton a politician who accomplished nothing and who carried a cloud of suspicious and criminal activity over her head believed that, as a diva, she had the divine right to assume the Obama mantle and as an additional bona fide an anatomy that justified and solidified her right. Hillary is no show horse and not even a good work horse

Both are examples of the ultimate entitlement which have no basis on merit


Personal Best Regards

Don Baldwin
04-28-2017, 06:26 AM
Let me see Obama was elected because of the color of his skin. Therefore he resonated as a good show horse. He was nurtured and protected by progressives all, even given the Nobel Peace Prize just for showing up for work, beautified in the press and yet his performance record is factual dismal.

Hillary Clinton a politician who accomplished nothing and who carried a cloud of suspicious and criminal activity over her head believed that, as a diva, she had the divine right to assume the Obama mantle and as an additional bona fide an anatomy that justified and solidified her right. Hillary is no show horse and not even a good work horse

Both are examples of the ultimate entitlement which have no basis on merit


Personal Best Regards

Women and minorities...losers living in delusion...I've been telling you this!

Why do you think EVERY standard has fallen? Why do you think they NEED quotas? Why do you think NO minority or woman can beat white men? The BEST in the world is NEVER a woman. The BEST (besides certain sports) is NEVER a black person.

We are NOT all equal and forcing it IS destroying us. We've been importing mostly 3rd world losers since the 1960s and NOW it is catching up to us...whites are the minority now.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
04-28-2017, 06:37 AM
What do you think?

The problem with this scenario is that every one of these "problems" are your opinions and IMHO, have no basis in fact.

Taltarzac725
04-28-2017, 07:42 AM
Imagine this scenario: Hillary Clinton is president. It's learned that she has deep ties to Putin and that there is evidence to suggest Putin influenced the election in her favor as a quid pro quo for easing sanctions on Russia. She puts utterly unqualified billionaires in cabinet posts and her daughter Chelsea in a position of influence in the West Wing. Chelsea's husband is her chief advisor. She refuses to release any tax returns, she blocks access to the visitor logs in the White House and Bill refuses to live in the White House so our tax dollars are spent keeping him safe in Chappaqua. Hillary spends almost every weekend in a resort that is marketed by her very presence and from which the Clinton Foundation draws profits. AND, in an interview, she names the wrong country she bombed while bragging about the chocolate cake she was eating while she ordered said bombing. One could just go on and on.
The point is that the outrage, the outcries, the screaming by opposing political party would be heard around the world and impeachment proceedings would already be underway.
This is what white male privilege looks like in the United States of America. Let's face it, if Hillary--or any female candidate--had five children from three partners she would never have survived the primary.

Most of that looks like what has actually happened with the Trump Presidency probably even to FOX News.

billethkid
04-28-2017, 09:52 AM
He speaks again!

When Obama took the office the Dow was at 6,626 when he left office it was 19,887..... That was really good for the 401K so you should have been happy about that Don.

I was!

Hopefully you are not intimating that Obama or his policies or his lies or his pandering to Islamic terrorists, et al, had anything to do with the stock markets growth.

rjm1cc
04-28-2017, 10:04 AM
I do not think she could handle all the problems.

cologal
04-28-2017, 10:55 AM
And it ONLY cost $10,000,000,000,000 ($10 trillion) or $30,000 per man woman and child, or $120,000 per family of four to do it! That includes the half the population who don't pay their fair share...it cost WHITE...WORKING families over $200,000. Was it worth it?

Not sure what your are ranting about.....

cologal
04-28-2017, 10:59 AM
Hopefully you are not intimating that Obama or his policies or his lies or his pandering to Islamic terrorists, et al, had anything to do with the stock markets growth.

He was the president, he did the stimulus package and his policies restored the jobs lost under the previous administration.

Bush and his polices are the reason we are still at war in the Middle East and ISIS exists!

cologal
04-28-2017, 11:34 AM
That was IN SPITE of Obama. What did he do to change anything for the positive? Nothing, is the correct answer. The economy was the slowest to respond in history. The recession had the slowest rebound in history of recessions and depressions. Obama was a hindrance, not a positive factor.
Obama has the record for being the ONLY president to NEVER have a 3% year average GDP growth during his tenure.
If you want more statistics on how poor the economy STILL is, I suggest a little reading at some of the government sites.

To coin a REPUBLICAN phrase...YOU LIE!

GHW Bush 2.1
B Clinton 3.8
GW Bush 1.6
B Obama 1.2

Jeb Bush says tax policies of George W. Bush 'created a dynamic effect of high growth' | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/27/jeb-bush/jeb-bush-says-tax-policies-george-w-bush-created-d/)

Maybe we should have had Bill as the First Man! The economy might have turned around!!!

cologal
04-28-2017, 12:02 PM
So then Trump is a genius, as his relative market gains since election outweigh Obama's.


O wait, I know you use liberal logic..... nothing Trump does brilliantly can be true.


O wait post election day gains belong to Obama.

Don't know how the conservatives continue to deal with the liberals here.

Cololdlady truely does not have the brainwaves to debate, maybe she can discuss world events with Tal, then rocky can write a dissertation about their discussion, then cnm, can give it an "o dear," Then fat boy can stamp it fake.

If I were a liberal then I would apply "liberal logic". I am, most likely, left of you but hardly Elizabeth Warren.

The stock market is soaring because they are hoping for HUGE tax cuts, deregulation and a more pro business climate.

The last time that happened WE THE PEOPLE got 2008!

Strap in it could get ugly!

mickey100
04-28-2017, 01:02 PM
And it ONLY cost $10,000,000,000,000 ($10 trillion) or $30,000 per man woman and child, or $120,000 per family of four to do it! That includes the half the population who don't pay their fair share...it cost WHITE...WORKING families over $200,000. Was it worth it?

Your numbers are incorrect. And wait until Trump enacts his tax cuts for businesses and billionaires. Talk about making America's debt great again.....

Taltarzac725
04-28-2017, 01:04 PM
Your numbers are incorrect. And wait until Trump enacts his tax cuts for businesses and billionaires. Talk about making America's debt great again.....

We have almost no details on how he will fund the US government.

rubicon
04-28-2017, 01:22 PM
Progressives continue to side step embarrassing issues. "The topic is " what if Hillary Clinton had all of Trump's problems?"...not what Trump did or did not do will do or won't do.

The truth is the progressive establishment (all) only threw softball questions at her, provided her with answers to questions during the debates. Hide, denied, delayed or spun legitimate and factual scandal information in order to hide her criminality and poor judgments. She was a dud when it came to campaigning. She had no idea why she wanted to be president except that, she believed, her anatomy had given her the exclusive right to be president.

When the air clears and tempers abate the reality that Hillary Clinton was never a viable candidate for president will emerge

Hillary's candidacy was all smoke and mirrors . Think me wrong.
Well then ask yourself why did the DNC see fit to interfere and blunt Bernie Sanders campaign? Even they knew she was a loser.

Personal Best Regards:

cologal
04-28-2017, 02:45 PM
That was IN SPITE of Obama. What did he do to change anything for the positive? Nothing, is the correct answer. The economy was the slowest to respond in history. The recession had the slowest rebound in history of recessions and depressions. Obama was a hindrance, not a positive factor.
Obama has the record for being the ONLY president to NEVER have a 3% year average GDP growth during his tenure.
If you want more statistics on how poor the economy STILL is, I suggest a little reading at some of the government sites.

You might want to check your facts.....the last President to have 3% growth was President Clinton.

Jeb Bush says tax policies of George W. Bush 'created a dynamic effect of high growth' | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/27/jeb-bush/jeb-bush-says-tax-policies-george-w-bush-created-d/)

The Bush's were in the 2% range......

Love2Swim
04-28-2017, 03:49 PM
We have almost no details on how he will fund the US government.

You're right - no details, no thought out plan.

MDLNB
04-28-2017, 06:07 PM
POLITIFACT:

Trump said, "Obama is the first president in modern history not to have a single year of 3 percent growth."
We rate the statement Mostly True.

Trump's claim about weak economic growth under President Obama doesn't tell the full story | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2016/oct/31/donald-trump/trumps-claim-about-weak-economic-growth-under-obam/)

MDLNB
04-28-2017, 06:26 PM
You might want to check your facts.....the last President to have 3% growth was President Clinton.

Jeb Bush says tax policies of George W. Bush 'created a dynamic effect of high growth' | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2015/sep/27/jeb-bush/jeb-bush-says-tax-policies-george-w-bush-created-d/)

The Bush's were in the 2% range......

You may want to check your reading comprehension. The statement was that Obie was the ONLY president to NOT achieve an average year 3% GDP growth in history. Your information about Bush is incorrect.

Don Baldwin
04-28-2017, 08:44 PM
Your numbers are incorrect. And wait until Trump enacts his tax cuts for businesses and billionaires. Talk about making America's debt great again.....

My numbers ARE correct and if you disagree...post your own numbers Mickey

MDLNB
04-29-2017, 03:12 AM
We have almost no details on how he will fund the US government.

The same way previous presidents funded the gov. Spend the tax revenues until there is no more and then borrow what it needs.

Obama had no budget, so it makes one wonder why you suddenly have a problem with gov expense. Did you complain about Obama never having a budget, plan for funding the gov.? Of course not, he was given a pass. Why is that? Give me a reason why you libtards gave Obama a pass.

Don Baldwin
04-29-2017, 06:33 AM
The same way previous presidents funded the gov. Spend the tax revenues until there is no more and then borrow what it needs.

Obama had no budget, so it makes one wonder why you suddenly have a problem with gov expense. Did you complain about Obama never having a budget, plan for funding the gov.? Of course not, he was given a pass. Why is that? Give me a reason why you libtards gave Obama a pass.

Because he's black.

MDLNB
04-29-2017, 07:03 AM
Because he's black.

I didn't say that. But, the way he was treated seems to indicate that. Maybe the left is racist?

MDLNB
04-29-2017, 07:07 AM
But, back to subject. What if hillary had all of Trump's problems? Well, if Hillary was as rich as Trump, she would probably not be so concerned about positioning herself in the gov where she could accept bribes and payments for services. Of course, the way Slick Willie entertains and parties, they wouldn't be rich very long.

Don Baldwin
04-29-2017, 08:20 AM
I didn't say that. But, the way he was treated seems to indicate that. Maybe the left is racist?

Of course they are...and sexist too. The "left"...the "liberals" are mostly single women and minorities. The minorities are MORE racist than we are and we...no your grandchildren...WILL see just how racist they are. They HATE us and BLAME us for their own inabilities. They believe that white people, white men in particular, actively work together to keep them down...that THEY are superior and when given the chance will prove it. Same with many/most (?) women...they hate men for what they are...stronger, smarter, more aggressive...more successful. They know they need men and it bugs the sh!t out of them.

Obama got away with a LOT only because he's blacks. Blacks in general, in public get away with a LOT...ONLY because they're black and NOBODY wants to be part of a scene when they start yelling racism. NOBODY corrects blacks for their disgusting behavior...the pig sty's they live in...the violence...destroying schools with their behavior and INABILITY to learn as whites/Asians can. Blacks DESTROY everything they touch...EVERYWHERE they live. I've seen NEW housing projects having to be torn down after less than 10 years of black occupancy.

White people are LETTING them breed us out...we're PAYING for it...the government spends a $ trillion a year on welfare...80% of it going to minorities...Hispanics and blacks. THEY WILL be the majority...VERY soon. America WILL change...America IS changing. MLK Blvds, "Spanish town" IS growing...they ARE already the majority below age 7.

banjobob
05-01-2017, 07:26 AM
The embedded "Progressives will hug their Obama posters and lament if only the popular vote counted Hillary could continue the losers agenda ,but that is not reality President Trump won get over it !!!

Taltarzac725
05-01-2017, 07:31 AM
The embedded "Progressives will hug their Obama posters and lament if only the popular vote counted Hillary could continue the losers agenda ,but that is not reality President Trump won get over it !!!

The prick got into the White House because of Weiner's e-mails to women about the size of his Johnson and FBI Director James Comey's obsession with getting to the facts no matter what the cost to the environment, women needing abortions, health care, libraries, education, immigrants' rights, etc. United States presidential election, 2016 - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016)

And Trump lost the popular vote and only won the Electoral vote by 77,000 votes out of a HUGE number of voters.

MDLNB
05-01-2017, 11:19 AM
The prick got into the White House because of Weiner's e-mails to women about the size of his Johnson and FBI Director James Comey's obsession with getting to the facts no matter what the cost to the environment, women needing abortions, health care, libraries, education, immigrants' rights, etc. United States presidential election, 2016 - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016)

And Trump lost the popular vote and only won the Electoral vote by 77,000 votes out of a HUGE number of voters.

Make sure that you explain that to Ivanka next time you two are conversing..:1rotfl: Tell her what a "pri*k" her father is.

Find me ONE, only one person that says they did not vote for Hillary because of Weiner's emails and I will call you the liar you are because that would make them a hypocrite for voting for Trump after hearing his private conversation of a dozen years ago.

Go back to your library.

cologal
05-01-2017, 09:16 PM
You may want to check your reading comprehension. The statement was that Obie was the ONLY president to NOT achieve an average year 3% GDP growth in history. Your information about Bush is incorrect.

I suggest my information says otherwise!

To coin a phrase "yours is fake news!"

Don Baldwin
05-01-2017, 09:19 PM
I suggest my information says otherwise!

To coin a phrase "yours is fake news!"

You are correct we haven't had GDP growth above 4% since 2000. Going on 20 years.

Taltarzac725
05-01-2017, 09:30 PM
The prick got into the White House because of Weiner's e-mails to women about the size of his Johnson and FBI Director James Comey's obsession with getting to the facts no matter what the cost to the environment, women needing abortions, health care, libraries, education, immigrants' rights, etc. United States presidential election, 2016 - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_presidential_election,_2016)

And Trump lost the popular vote and only won the Electoral vote by 77,000 votes out of a HUGE number of voters.

4 pieces of evidence showing FBI Director James Comey cost Clinton the election - Vox (https://www.vox.com/the-big-idea/2017/1/11/14215930/comey-email-election-clinton-campaign)

A good link.

MDLNB
05-02-2017, 03:23 AM
I suggest my information says otherwise!

To coin a phrase "yours is fake news!"

I gave you the correct information. If you have a comprehension problem, talk to Tal. He'll fix you up.

My point is, and I will make it again:

Obama is the only president in history that did not have a year average GDP growth of 3% or more. Try to stay with me on this. I reiterate, a YEAR AVERAGE 3% GDP GROWTH.

If you are going to show me one month of 3% GDP, that is not going to cut it.