Why are democrats and liberals so upset?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I hear from my liberal friends about everything that President Trump has done is ruining the country.

But then recently because of this arbitrary 100 days idea, we are hearing from those on the left that this administration has accomplished nothing in the first 100 days. Keith Olberman had a Facebook post about how the president has accomplished nothing, zero, zilch in his first one hundred days.

If he hasn't accomplished anything, what are all of his opponents up in arms about?

Some claim, even though there is no proof, that he has played golf 34 times in the past hundred days. Even if that's he case, as Hasan Minhaj said last night, you should be happy that he's playing golf and not being president.

So which is it? He's ruining the country with all of his accomplishments or he's not accomplishing anything?

[Rockyrd]

I hear from my liberal friends about everything that President Trump has done is ruining the country.

But then recently because of this arbitrary 100 days idea, we are hearing from those on the left that this administration has accomplished nothing in the first 100 days. Keith Olberman had a Facebook post about how the president has accomplished nothing, zero, zilch in his first one hundred days.

If he hasn't accomplished anything, what are all of his opponents up in arms about?

Some claim, even though there is no proof, that he has played golf 34 times in the past hundred days. Even if that's he case, as Hasan Minhaj said last night, you should be happy that he's playing golf and not being president.

So which is it? He's ruining the country with all of his accomplishments or he's not accomplishing anything?

He has and continues to destroy the faith in the words of our President. The trust in the White House is simply eroding.

And I suggest you read..it is not just Democrats and LIberals.

[Taltarzac725]

Environmental policy of the Donald Trump administration - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_Donald_Trump_administr ation)

Trump's immigration, environmental, social, and other of his policies have us up in arms along with the various Russian connections to his campaign. Anthony Weiner's e-mails handed the election to Donald John Trump when FBI Director James Comey made that announcement abut 10 days before the election. Here's What the FBI Found in the Emails on Anthony Weiner's Laptop (http://www.newsweek.com/what-fbi-found-emails-anthony-weiner-laptop-517652)

We have a prick in the White House because of e-mails about someone's johnson.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

He has and continues to destroy the faith in the words of our President. The trust in the White House is simply eroding.

And I suggest you read..it is not just Democrats and LIberals.

You're right, it's not just the left. Some of those of the extreme right believe that he's not conservative enough just as some on on the extreme left didn't support President Obama for not being liberal enough.

But right now his approval rating is rising and his disapproval rating is dropping, if you can believe polls. Of course these are the same polls that predicted there was a less than 15% that he would be elected, so who knows what to believe?

Right now, according to Gallup, his disapproval is 51%. You have to factor a certain number of those are on the right that think that he should be more conservative. Many of those are disappointed that he didn't get the ACA repealed or that the wall hasn't been built by now. some of his supporters, just as President Obama's supporters have an un realistic view of how fast things can be accomplished.

His approval rating is at 43% which leaves about 6% of those polled who have no opinion.

I expect that as the economy continues to grow and more, good paying jobs are created, as the ACA gets dismantled and the wall gets built, you'll see a lot of those on the right get on his side. Also we'll have to see where those 6% come down.

[Don Baldwin]

You're right, it's not just the left. Some of those of the extreme right believe that he's not conservative enough just as some on on the extreme left didn't support President Obama for not being liberal enough.

But right now his approval rating is rising and his disapproval rating is dropping, if you can believe polls. Of course these are the same polls that predicted there was a less than 15% that he would be elected, so who knows what to believe?

Right now, according to Gallup, his disapproval is 51%. You have to factor a certain number of those are on the right that think that he should be more conservative. Many of those are disappointed that he didn't get the ACA repealed or that the wall hasn't been built by now. some of his supporters, just as President Obama's supporters have an un realistic view of how fast things can be accomplished.

His approval rating is at 43% which leaves about 6% of those polled who have no opinion.

I expect that as the economy continues to grow and more, good paying jobs are created, as the ACA gets dismantled and the wall gets built, you'll see a lot of those on the right get on his side. Also we'll have to see where those 6% come down.

Believe NONE of it...you fret over nothing...over theater. The meaningless social issues drama make the news while they rob us blind. Over a $trillion a year...

[Taltarzac725]

Donald Trump Goes All In for the Military-Industrial Complex | The Nation (https://www.thenation.com/article/donald-trump-goes-all-in-for-the-military-industrial-complex/)

Also not too thrilled with his military bloat.

[Rockyrd]

You're right, it's not just the left. Some of those of the extreme right believe that he's not conservative enough just as some on on the extreme left didn't support President Obama for not being liberal enough.

But right now his approval rating is rising and his disapproval rating is dropping, if you can believe polls. Of course these are the same polls that predicted there was a less than 15% that he would be elected, so who knows what to believe?

Right now, according to Gallup, his disapproval is 51%. You have to factor a certain number of those are on the right that think that he should be more conservative. Many of those are disappointed that he didn't get the ACA repealed or that the wall hasn't been built by now. some of his supporters, just as President Obama's supporters have an un realistic view of how fast things can be accomplished.

His approval rating is at 43% which leaves about 6% of those polled who have no opinion.

I expect that as the economy continues to grow and more, good paying jobs are created, as the ACA gets dismantled and the wall gets built, you'll see a lot of those on the right get on his side. Also we'll have to see where those 6% come down.

I am speaking oh HONESTY.

When you lie openly; when you characterize media who does not "roll over" as fake news, and define respect as agreeing with you alone; when you continue to have pep rallies to demean others; when you make it obvious that you are NOT even trying to be President of ALL American, then I assure you that the shelf life is very short. Ups and downs for sure but as we see the deficit rise, and more of his promises go up in smoke....you cannot trust a word our President says, and your adoration may be great, but a liar will always be found out.

He destroys any good ideas he has with his dis honesty

[dirtbanker]

I am speaking oh HONESTY.

....you cannot trust a word...but a liar will always be found out.


Honesty or honestly...Hmmmm

What about your lie yesterday? Should your lies influence your credibility and trust on this forum? Possibly you have a quota, or threshold, and you feel as long as you don't go over that amount - your good??

I just wonder when you are going to stop whining about Trump...you wasted your vote!

Which president lived up to your standards?

[Rockyrd]

Honesty or honestly...Hmmmm

What about your lie yesterday? Should your lies influence your credibility and trust on this forum? Possibly you have a quota, or threshold, and you feel as long as you don't go over that amount - your good??

I just wonder when you are going to stop whining about Trump...you wasted your vote!

Which president lived up to your standards?

CLEARLY spell out my lie ...what thread and what post number

[Don Baldwin]

He has and continues to destroy the faith in the words of our President. The trust in the White House is simply eroding.

And I suggest you read..it is not just Democrats and LIberals.

That trust eroded a long time ago...where have you been? Are you sentient?

I am speaking oh HONESTY.

When you lie openly; when you characterize media who does not "roll over" as fake news, and define respect as agreeing with you alone; when you continue to have pep rallies to demean others; when you make it obvious that you are NOT even trying to be President of ALL American, then I assure you that the shelf life is very short. Ups and downs for sure but as we see the deficit rise, and more of his promises go up in smoke....you cannot trust a word our President says, and your adoration may be great, but a liar will always be found out.

He destroys any good ideas he has with his dis honesty

Who are "All American's"? Everyone who lives here? Or ONLY those who SHOULD be here.

We have 100 million Hispanics living here...that are here illegally. 50 million anchor babies had babies who are now beginning to have babies...Hispanics are the majority of children born, minorities are the majority in grade school...and whites are at 50% of the national population. 1/3 the current population doesn't belong here. They're considered citizens and they vote. They ARE breeding us out AND they are voting us out. "Sanctuary Cities" are actually cities that Hispanics have gained control over politically. They ARE taking over the country. They already own the border states/counties. When was the last time you were out west? It's already becoming Mexico II.

[Taltarzac725]

I am speaking oh HONESTY.

When you lie openly; when you characterize media who does not "roll over" as fake news, and define respect as agreeing with you alone; when you continue to have pep rallies to demean others; when you make it obvious that you are NOT even trying to be President of ALL American, then I assure you that the shelf life is very short. Ups and downs for sure but as we see the deficit rise, and more of his promises go up in smoke....you cannot trust a word our President says, and your adoration may be great, but a liar will always be found out.

He destroys any good ideas he has with his dis honesty

Not really sure if many of his followers care if he lies incessantly. As long as he wins that seems to be all that is important to them even if he screws them also with his policies.

[MDLNB]

He has and continues to destroy the faith in the words of our President. The trust in the White House is simply eroding.

And I suggest you read..it is not just Democrats and LIberals.


:a20:..:a20:.. :a20:

Now, that is funny. I've seen interviews where many liberals are pleasantly surprised at what he has done. If you check out the polls, you will find that it is the Democrats that they are disappointed with, because of all their resistance. This is the end of the Democrat party and many REAL Democrats are upset by it. Schumer, Pelogrosi and the new leader of the DNC are ruining it for the Democrats. Many of them do not want to be part of the left. It is TOO far left now.

Trump is doing an excellent job. And the funny thing is that the left is too naive and stubborn to educate themselves on his accomplishments in order to argue or debate it. Liberal talking points are becoming repetitious, boring and outdated.

The left is self-destructing.

[MDLNB]

Not really sure if many of his followers care if he lies incessantly. As long as he wins that seems to be all that is important to them even if he screws them also with his policies.

Go back to your library, Tal. I'm sure that there are plenty of overdue books that require your attention....in your mind. You still don't get it. Many of us look past the appearance of his rough verbiage to the actual results of his actions. He is doing a great job and the whole world is starting to acknowledge it. You need to get on board before you are still sitting on your @ss wondering what happened while you weren't paying attention.

Ask yourself this; what has Trump done in the past 100 days that has affected you personally? Other than rejecting your Project 90210.

I do not need to list what he has done. It's all over the internet if you need edification.

I have already asked this question of your leftard friends on here. They have conveniently ignored the question. It tends to leave them impotent.

You on the left still don't get it. When Sean Spicer made a slip of the tongue when he mentioned Nazis not gassing their own citizens, all you libtards went berserk. Now, this idiot made a holocaust joke last night at the gathering of press idiots and Hollywood celebs, and you all think he is funny. Makes one wonder whether we live in the same America or if you all want to draw lines across America to divide us.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I am speaking oh HONESTY.

When you lie openly; when you characterize media who does not "roll over" as fake news, and define respect as agreeing with you alone; when you continue to have pep rallies to demean others; when you make it obvious that you are NOT even trying to be President of ALL American, then I assure you that the shelf life is very short. Ups and downs for sure but as we see the deficit rise, and more of his promises go up in smoke....you cannot trust a word our President says, and your adoration may be great, but a liar will always be found out.

He destroys any good ideas he has with his dis honesty

so as I understand this, you're more bothered by what he has said than what he has done because according to many on the left he has done nothing.

[Rockyrd]

Honesty or honestly...Hmmmm

What about your lie yesterday? Should your lies influence your credibility and trust on this forum? Possibly you have a quota, or threshold, and you feel as long as you don't go over that amount - your good??

I just wonder when you are going to stop whining about Trump...you wasted your vote!

Which president lived up to your standards?

Still waiting for you to CLEARLY spell out my lie yesterday.

Thread and post number please.

Not used to being called a liar

[rubicon]

I hear from my liberal friends about everything that President Trump has done is ruining the country.

But then recently because of this arbitrary 100 days idea, we are hearing from those on the left that this administration has accomplished nothing in the first 100 days. Keith Olberman had a Facebook post about how the president has accomplished nothing, zero, zilch in his first one hundred days.

If he hasn't accomplished anything, what are all of his opponents up in arms about?

Some claim, even though there is no proof, that he has played golf 34 times in the past hundred days. Even if that's he case, as Hasan Minhaj said last night, you should be happy that he's playing golf and not being president.

So which is it? He's ruining the country with all of his accomplishments or he's not accomplishing anything?

My friend when it comes to the progressives "Trump obsession" it is clear they have gone beyond a nauseating saturation point.

Its all counter productive, a waste of time and energy and they do best to reorganize their failing party. Dumping Pelosi, Shumer, Waters, Warren, Lewis, Franken and Perez is a good start

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

My friend when it comes to the progressives "Trump obsession" it is clear they have gone beyond a nauseating saturation point.

Its all counter productive, a waste of time and energy and they do best to reorganize their failing party. Dumping Pelosi, Shumer, Waters, Warren, Lewis, Franken and Perez is a good start

Personal Best Regards:

Do you folks not hear the President of the United States lie from the White House ?

Do you not hear the President of the United States accusing people of crimes without any basis, including an ex President ?

You folks just seem to gloss over a President having just a fleeing relationship with the truth.

We are not talking about style difference....we are not talking about policy....we are talking simply about LYING CHRONICALLY from the White House.

[Rockyrd]

Honesty or honestly...Hmmmm

What about your lie yesterday? Should your lies influence your credibility and trust on this forum? Possibly you have a quota, or threshold, and you feel as long as you don't go over that amount - your good??

I just wonder when you are going to stop whining about Trump...you wasted your vote!

Which president lived up to your standards?

DIRTBANKER...STILL waiting for clarity on you calling me a liar.

Thread and post number please

[Rockyrd]

Honesty or honestly...Hmmmm

What about your lie yesterday? Should your lies influence your credibility and trust on this forum? Possibly you have a quota, or threshold, and you feel as long as you don't go over that amount - your good??

I just wonder when you are going to stop whining about Trump...you wasted your vote!

Which president lived up to your standards?

DIRTBANKER...YOU called me a liar. I am asking for you to clarify that accusation with facts in where I lied, as you say..yesterday.

[dillywho]

Do you folks not hear the President of the United States lie from the White House ?

Do you not hear the President of the United States accusing people of crimes without any basis, including an ex President ?

You folks just seem to gloss over a President having just a fleeing relationship with the truth.

We are not talking about style difference....we are not talking about policy....we are talking simply about LYING CHRONICALLY from the White House.

Then why did you NOT have a problem with the last administration's lies? He did you know. If you don't know or don't believe me, most any of his speeches can be found on YouTube.

[Cedwards38]

He demeans the office of the POTUS with his constant and unapologetic lies, his arrogant narcissism, his nepotism, his lack of knowledge and understanding, his pathetic insistence on making his lack of a majority election sound like the greatest victory in American political history, his hypocrisy, his attacks on anyone who disagrees with him, his blatant attempt to give significant tax breaks to only the wealthy (including himself and his family) and the impact that will have on the federal budget, his misogyny, his xenophobia, his Russian connections during the election and the bromance with Putin, and his inarticulate defining of any positive and well thought direction for the country.

Other than Gorsuch, which was meaningful for his base, and the issuing of more Executive Orders than any other sitting POTUS during the first 100 days (something he and conservatives railed against during the Obama years) most of which are meaningless, possibly the MOAB in Afghanistan, and the Syrian bombing (59 bombs on an airport that was used the next day by the Syrian Air Force to launch bombers), what has he accomplished?

[Rockyrd]

Then why did you NOT have a problem with the last administration's lies? He did you know. If you don't know or don't believe me, most any of his speeches can be found on YouTube.

It is difficult for me to respond unemotionally o this kind of post.

I once read somewhere that there are 8 kinds of lies.

When you speak of Obama, you speak of exaggeration or broken promises, and that's fair to be disappointed with that. I am sure, no I know that Obama did that.

We are talking, with Trump of compulsive, boldfaced lying. Lying ON VIDEO, and then denying he said it. Lying by lashing out and making totally false accusations of very serious nature. Of lying and calling "fake news" if it does not fit that day.

A substantial, and extremely serious difference.

This difference is profound and deadly serious, because we are at the mercy of a compulsive liar in a National emergency. We are at the mercy of a man who if his personal reputation is on the line, if there is a chance he could be construed as anything but the winner, he will do or say anything.

[Rockyrd]

Honesty or honestly...Hmmmm

What about your lie yesterday? Should your lies influence your credibility and trust on this forum? Possibly you have a quota, or threshold, and you feel as long as you don't go over that amount - your good??

I just wonder when you are going to stop whining about Trump...you wasted your vote!

Which president lived up to your standards?

DIRTBANKER......YOU CALLED ME A LIAR.

PLEASE list the lie you accused me of yesterday...thread and post.

I do not take kindly to being called a liar

[Chi-Town]

Uh-oh. I feel a Buffalo Jim coming on.

Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk

[ColdNoMore]

Uh-oh. I feel a Buffalo Jim coming on.


Speaking of which, he's been conspicuous by his absence of late.

While I realize that Graceless' little PM crusade tried to rally her bully clique against me and he seemed to take it most to heart (numerous threads aimed directly at me :D) by not ceasing in the main forums...I was thinking he would only get a timeout at most. :shrug:

Of course, the passive-aggressive Queen B will try to convince herself that she had no hand in driving an obviously disturbed person...completely over the edge. :oops:

Intelligent folks will, of course...know better. :ohdear:

[dirtbanker]

DIRTBANKER......YOU CALLED ME A LIAR.

PLEASE list the lie you accused me of yesterday...thread and post.

I do not take kindly to being called a liar

YEP!! REMEMBER YESTERDAY WHEN YOU POSTED SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF " I HONESTLY DON"T LIKE TO PICK ON RUBICON"?? That was a bold face lie, you have targeted his posts, one right after another, making accusations and picking on the guy...I called you out on it and you ignored me. Now if you want you can ask me to find it, or you can man up and admit the falsehood, or run and hide.

Just for the record old man, I don't care what you take kindly...

[dirtbanker]

Uh-oh. I feel a Buffalo Jim coming on.

Sent from my VS995 using Tapatalk

Is that the guy that tapes his weenie between his legs and wears someone else's skin?

[dirtbanker]

...numerous threads aimed directly at me...
Get a life, your imagining things...

[Rockyrd]

YEP!! REMEMBER YESTERDAY WHEN YOU POSTED SOMETHING TO THE EFFECT OF " I HONESTLY DON"T LIKE TO PICK ON RUBICON"?? That was a bold face lie, you have targeted his posts, one right after another, making accusations and picking on the guy...I called you out on it and you ignored me. Now if you want you can ask me to find it, or you can man up and admit the falsehood, or run and hide.

Just for the record old man, I don't care what you take kindly...

Yes I have and will when I deem it it, but how dare you call me a liar. I was responding to a post that mentioned him, and thus I said I hate to pick on him.....I ignored you because what is said about you is evidently true...you deserve no respect whatsoever.

If you feel that reference in context was a lie, you have even less comprehension skills that you manifest in here daily.

I do not lie. Period.

You do a good job of representing the Trump lovers on here...no respect for anything or anybody but him, and the immaturity to manifest that fact in public and while shame would be appropriate, you show none.

[ColdNoMore]

...numerous threads aimed directly at me...


Get a life, your imagining things...

You're lying again...so go crawl back in your hole. :1rotfl:


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/freeze-out-bully-called-cnm-231020/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/what-do-you-enjoy-most-about-cnm-231283/



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[dirtbanker]

Yes I have and will when I deem it it, but how dare you call me a liar. I was responding to a post that mentioned him, and thus I said I hate to pick on him.....I ignored you because what is said about you is evidently true...you deserve no respect whatsoever.

If you feel that reference in context was a lie, you have even less comprehension skills that you manifest in here daily.

I do not lie. Period.

You do a good job of representing the Trump lovers on here...no respect for anything or anybody but him, and the immaturity to manifest that fact in public and while shame would be appropriate, you show none.

When you said "I Hate to pick on this poster" - you were lying. If that is too complicated for you to comprehend, I can't help you...

You lied, PERIOD!

[dirtbanker]

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/freeze-out-bully-called-cnm-231020/

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/what-do-you-enjoy-most-about-cnm-231283/

Deepest Sincere Wishes:

And from there how do you arrive at the statement:


While I realize that Graceless' little PM crusade tried to rally her bully clique against me and he seemed to take it most to heart (numerous threads aimed directly at me...

[Rockyrd]

He demeans the office of the POTUS with his constant and unapologetic lies, his arrogant narcissism, his nepotism, his lack of knowledge and understanding, his pathetic insistence on making his lack of a majority election sound like the greatest victory in American political history, his hypocrisy, his attacks on anyone who disagrees with him, his blatant attempt to give significant tax breaks to only the wealthy (including himself and his family) and the impact that will have on the federal budget, his misogyny, his xenophobia, his Russian connections during the election and the bromance with Putin, and his inarticulate defining of any positive and well thought direction for the country.

Other than Gorsuch, which was meaningful for his base, and the issuing of more Executive Orders than any other sitting POTUS during the first 100 days (something he and conservatives railed against during the Obama years) most of which are meaningless, possibly the MOAB in Afghanistan, and the Syrian bombing (59 bombs on an airport that was used the next day by the Syrian Air Force to launch bombers), what has he accomplished?

Great post. I felt compelled to tell you how accurate you were in this post.

The new scary thing for me is his total lack of depth. I honestly do not believe he even understands the basics. It was said he didn't even understand what he was handing to congress with his health bill, and this tax proposal is insulting. Not what was in it, but to think a few pages could be construed as a proposal to congress. His lack of depth is surprising me.

But what he is doing to our once proud White House and our once respected presidency.

He just invited Duterte to the WH, a man who just kills people.

[ColdNoMore]

And from there how do you arrive at the statement:

:1rotfl:

You just had your ignorant lie publicly stuffed back down your throat (don't choke :D) and were completely eviscerated...so now you're trying to obfuscate. :boxing2:

THANKS for that. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Rockyrd]

Speaking of which, he's been conspicuous by his absence of late.

While I realize that Graceless' little PM crusade tried to rally her bully clique against me and he seemed to take it most to heart (numerous threads aimed directly at me :D) by not ceasing in the main forums...I was thinking he would only get a timeout at most. :shrug:

Of course, the passive-aggressive Queen B will try to convince herself that she had no hand in driving an obviously disturbed person...completely over the edge. :oops:

Intelligent folks will, of course...know better. :ohdear:

I certainly hope those PM induced excursions will stop. I recall those and thought they were a thing of the past, although, and perhaps unrelated, activity one day on here that had the earmarks.

Sounds like teen girls on Facebook or something.

[dirtbanker]

You just had your ignorant lie publicly stuffed back down your throat (don't choke) and were completely eviscerated...so now you're trying to obfuscate.

THANKS for that.



Deepest Sincere Wishes:

Can't answer the question, so you throw a tantrum..
LOSER!

[dirtbanker]

I certainly hope those PM induced excursions will stop. I recall those and thought they were a thing of the past, although, and perhaps unrelated, activity one day on here that had the earmarks.

Sounds like teen girls on Facebook or something.

You and the (unt both sound like a couple teen girls, but we all know you are old ladies...

If you got any proof anyone was conversing via PM, lets see it. Otherwise just another one of your "feelings"...

[Rockyrd]

You and the (unt both sound like a couple teen girls, but we all know you are old ladies...

If you got any proof anyone was conversing via PM, lets see it. Otherwise just another one of your "feelings"...

Look pal....get lost.

I have been on here for many years. I not only know of the PM calls to arms, I participated in one where we were sent to another forum to shut a poster down, so I know much much more than you. By the way, this poster was way out of line.

My advice,,shut up...you have not a clue.

[dirtbanker]

Look pal....get lost.

I have been on here for many years. I not only know of the PM calls to arms, I participated in one where we were sent to another forum to shut a poster down, so I know much much more than you. By the way, this poster was way out of line.

My advice,,shut up...you have not a clue.

Look Pansy...I go where I want, when I want.
You voted for Papa Smurf in the presidential election, I don't value your opinion on ANYTHING.

If you participated , you are a teenage girl too!

But, unless you got proof, it is nothing more than just your "feeling"...

[MDLNB]

Look pal....get lost.

I have been on here for many years. I not only know of the PM calls to arms, I participated in one where we were sent to another forum to shut a poster down, so I know much much more than you. By the way, this poster was way out of line.

My advice,,shut up...you have not a clue.

Hate to butt in to your little tiff, but are you admitting to being a TROLL? Just curious.

[Rockyrd]

Hate to butt in to your little tiff, but are you admitting to being a TROLL? Just curious.

You and your little friends should spend more time reading and learning so yo can participate in real factual discussion instead of trolling those who actually know something.

About 4 years or so, a poster on TOTV was being seriously hassled. To the point of going to another forum, not only bashing this poster personally, but listing the posters full name and home address.

The poster being harassed on here became aware of the personal attacks on this other forum along with others. And was very upset, and with good reason. The poster on here enlisted via PM a number of us regulat posters who were not involved in that sort of crap, and who this poster trusted.

I, and a number of others did visit that site, and I suppose "outed" this person, by sharing everything we knew and soundly criticizing.

If that is trolling, I plead guilty.

I have heard of that kind of PM origin attack since, and have experienced it. It is juvenile, and a vicious thing to do. This is a computer forum. When this becomes your reality you need to get help, and that help should not come from PMing your "friends" to "go get other posters" who YOU have deemed "enemies"

[MDLNB]

You and your little friends should spend more time reading and learning so yo can participate in real factual discussion instead of trolling those who actually know something.

About 4 years or so, a poster on TOTV was being seriously hassled. To the point of going to another forum, not only bashing this poster personally, but listing the posters full name and home address.

The poster being harassed on here became aware of the personal attacks on this other forum along with others. And was very upset, and with good reason. The poster on here enlisted via PM a number of us regulat posters who were not involved in that sort of crap, and who this poster trusted.

I, and a number of others did visit that site, and I suppose "outed" this person, by sharing everything we knew and soundly criticizing.

If that is trolling, I plead guilty.

I have heard of that kind of PM origin attack since, and have experienced it. It is juvenile, and a vicious thing to do. This is a computer forum. When this becomes your reality you need to get help, and that help should not come from PMing your "friends" to "go get other posters" who YOU have deemed "enemies"

So, in short the answer is "YES."

Sounds like a bunch of juveniles, but hey if you all want to play your teenie bopper games, go for it. Different strokes for different folks as they say. Sounds like you sensitive types take this stuff seriously. Tough to have a discussion when all the teenage girls on here insist on crying have calling names.

I guess to some, this is considered entertainment. It's become kind of tedious. Maybe it's time for them to shut it down until the next election cycle. Just my thought on it, not necessarily a suggestion. I really don't care, just like I do not care about any of your personal problems. Just wish you kids would find some other forum to play in. Maybe the local high school facebook site?

[Rockyrd]

So, in short the answer is "YES."

Sounds like a bunch of juveniles, but hey if you all want to play your teenie bopper games, go for it. Different strokes for different folks as they say. Sounds like you sensitive types take this stuff seriously. Tough to have a discussion when all the teenage girls on here insist on crying have calling names.

I guess to some, this is considered entertainment. It's become kind of tedious. Maybe it's time for them to shut it down until the next election cycle. Just my thought on it, not necessarily a suggestion. I really don't care, just like I do not care about any of your personal problems. Just wish you kids would find some other forum to play in. Maybe the local high school facebook site?

Well, since you need to persist in this.....

You friend GracieGirl is the person who solicited help with being terribly harassed by another, and I tried to help.

Since then rumors, and I have no facts that I am able to share, that she has done the same kind of things regarding folks she either does not like or whatever.

I am sure she is happy that you continue to dig at this for your little girl reasons.

I say no more because I respect promises I have made, but keep pushing.....you truely are a sick and not bright person.

[MDLNB]

Well, since you need to persist in this.....

You friend GracieGirl is the person who solicited help with being terribly harassed by another, and I tried to help.

Since then rumors, and I have no facts that I am able to share, that she has done the same kind of things regarding folks she either does not like or whatever.

I am sure she is happy that you continue to dig at this for your little girl reasons.

I say no more because I respect promises I have made, but keep pushing.....you truely are a sick and not bright person.

Sorry, but I do not know Gracie Girl other than your reference to her on here. I have nothing to do with her actions. I have on occasion shown that I agree with one or many of her comments, but other than that, I have no personal knowledge of her. If you have a grudge against her, why not take your cat fight outside and quit accusing the rest of us of things just to make yourself feel good? If you say something I agree with, I will tell you that, and if not I will tell you that too. Quit being so sensitive and girly, or do what you wish. I don't care. But, if you wish to pick a fight with me, bring you lunch and flashlight, because if I am in the gaming mood, you will be here for a long time. Your best bet is to be courteous and be treated civilly. I am not anyone's punching bag and I do not care what little protected group you feel you are in. I speak my mind.

I am going to choose to believe that you have me mixed up with someone else, because I am not involved in your little squabbles. I do not care if I offend you with my comments. If I am wrong, correct me with some facts. If I am right or you cannot debate my statement, then STFU. I have little patience with your little girly games.

[Don Baldwin]

Get rid of the women...make this men only...and all this drama ends.

How about a men only forum? They have one...why not us?

[MDLNB]

Get rid of the women...make this men only...and all this drama ends.

How about a men only forum? They have one...why not us?

How would you filter them out? They ALL sound like girls.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I find it interesting that we have the back and forth name calling like a bunch of grammar school kids and half of those are do it are complaining about the way the POTUS talks.

But I'm still having a problem understanding how one minute I'm hearing how President Trump is destroying the country and the next minute, from the same people I hear that he's done nothing but play golf and take vacations and that he's has accomplished absolutely zero in his first hundred days.

If he's done nothing, how is he destroying the country? How is he hurting the little people by making himself and his friends rich if he's accomplished nothing?

[Rockyrd]

I find it interesting that we have the back and forth name calling like a bunch of grammar school kids and half of those are do it are complaining about the way the POTUS talks.

But I'm still having a problem understanding how one minute I'm hearing how President Trump is destroying the country and the next minute, from the same people I hear that he's done nothing but play golf and take vacations and that he's has accomplished absolutely zero in his first hundred days.

If he's done nothing, how is he destroying the country? How is he hurting the little people by making himself and his friends rich if he's accomplished nothing?

It is called integrity.

He is daily destroying the confidence of the White House...of the Presidency.

South Korea has already said publicly they will be slow to believe what he says, and Americans are rapidly losing confidence in everything that he says.

Day is coming when we will require honesty from the White House. Hope the truth makes Trump look good, or you will get a lie, and hope that does not have disasterous consequences.

He is still in election mode, playing to his fan club instead of Americans.

[MDLNB]

I find it interesting that we have the back and forth name calling like a bunch of grammar school kids and half of those are do it are complaining about the way the POTUS talks.

But I'm still having a problem understanding how one minute I'm hearing how President Trump is destroying the country and the next minute, from the same people I hear that he's done nothing but play golf and take vacations and that he's has accomplished absolutely zero in his first hundred days.

If he's done nothing, how is he destroying the country? How is he hurting the little people by making himself and his friends rich if he's accomplished nothing?

Please.........that went over their heads, while they were crying. This is getting a bit tedious. They were told that Trump is the boogieman so they see the boogieman everywhere they go.

[Taltarzac725]

It is called integrity.

He is daily destroying the confidence of the White House...of the Presidency.

South Korea has already said publicly they will be slow to believe what he says, and Americans are rapidly losing confidence in everything that he says.

Day is coming when we will require honesty from the White House. Hope the truth makes Trump look good, or you will get a lie, and hope that does not have disasterous consequences.

He is still in election mode, playing to his fan club instead of Americans.

I have not believed anything Donald Trump says for months if not years. He is a reality TV star and a real estate developer.

[MDLNB]

It is called integrity.

He is daily destroying the confidence of the White House...of the Presidency.

South Korea has already said publicly they will be slow to believe what he says, and Americans are rapidly losing confidence in everything that he says.

Day is coming when we will require honesty from the White House. Hope the truth makes Trump look good, or you will get a lie, and hope that does not have disasterous consequences.

He is still in election mode, playing to his fan club instead of Americans.

Sorry, but the "integrity of the White House" was tarnished long before Trump ever thought of being president. You really need to move on.

Tell us what you don't like about what he is doing. We already know you don't like what he says, so skip over that. Give me a policy or E.O. or law he has signed that you do not approve of so that a legitimate discussion can be started. Even you must be tired of crying over his lack of verbal polish.

[Don Baldwin]

It is called integrity.

He is daily destroying the confidence of the White House...of the Presidency.

South Korea has already said publicly they will be slow to believe what he says, and Americans are rapidly losing confidence in everything that he says.

Day is coming when we will require honesty from the White House. Hope the truth makes Trump look good, or you will get a lie, and hope that does not have disasterous consequences.

He is still in election mode, playing to his fan club instead of Americans.

When will that be? Never? We haven't had honesty in the WH...in like...forever.

[Rockyrd]

When will that be? Never? We haven't had honesty in the WH...in like...forever.

You are so wrong, jaded but wrong.....this is from today's Newsweek. I understand the Trump lovers now attack the source and ignore the substance, but someday, you will be confronted with what you already know is fact

"America prides itself on peaceful transitions from one president to the other. No coups. No backstabbing. No backward glances at what might have been.

We witness this every four years or, at the most, every eight. No matter how bitter a presidential campaign or how antithetical an outgoing president’s policies and ideology may be from his successor’s, the newcomer is ushered into the highest office in the land with dignity and courtesy.

Such continuity is a fundamental tenet of the United States. Only in the weeks preceding the Civil War was it violated, when the southern states seceded after the election of Abraham Lincoln.

Also part of our tradition is the absence of any remonstrance from one president toward another, regardless of the ideological gulf between them. Almost since the founding of the nation, it has been considered unthinkable for a former president to criticize a sitting president.

But as these are the times that try men’s (and women’s) souls, such niceties must cease. Since January 20, the nation’s most fundamental values have been distorted as the man who spoke of “carnage” at his inauguration presides over a divided and fractious nation.

This carnage—a blow to our comity and polity, to our sense of union and of purpose—Trump has personally unleashed. If this is what is in store for us over the next four years, the United States may be unrecognizable by 2020.[/B]

[B]Confronted by such conditions, it is incumbent upon the five living former presidents—Jimmy Carter, George H.W. Bush, Bill Clinton, George W. Bush and Barack Obama—to disregard tradition and form a Presidential Committee of Conscience that would have one purpose: to admonish and correct a sitting president whose actions are a threat to the defining ethos of the nation; whose policies contribute to the shredding of the fabric that bind us together as a people and fracture alliances that have been the foundation of a reasonably calm and sensible global order; whose cavalier utterances betray the dignity and purpose of the office of the presidency."

Former Presidents Should Lead the Criticism of Trump (http://www.newsweek.com/former-presidents-should-lead-criticism-trump-590829)

[Don Baldwin]

What does that have to do with honesty in the white house?

[dillywho]

I have not believed anything Donald Trump says for months if not years. He is a reality TV star and a real estate developer.

Mmmm....and your beloved Barack Obama was a community organizer and a part of ACORN, so what's your point?

[MDLNB]

Mmmm....and your beloved Barack Obama was a community organizer and a part of ACORN, so what's your point?

I've been asking that question for several threads, but the only response I get is more crying and accusations that Trump is a big meanie. Try to have a conversation and they will divert to whatever Trump may have said a dozen years ago. I guess losers will always be losers.

[Don Baldwin]

I've been asking that question for several threads, but the only response I get is more crying and accusations that Trump is a big meanie. Try to have a conversation and they will divert to whatever Trump may have said a dozen years ago. I guess losers will always be losers.

Yes...women and minorities will ALWAYS be behind white men.

[dirtbanker]

It is called integrity.

He is daily destroying the confidence of the White House...of the Presidency.

South Korea has already said publicly they will be slow to believe what he says, and Americans are rapidly losing confidence in everything that he says.

Day is coming when we will require honesty from the White House. Hope the truth makes Trump look good, or you will get a lie, and hope that does not have disasterous consequences.

He is still in election mode, playing to his fan club instead of Americans.

Geeze...You still on this non stop negative whine about nothing old fool?

In your OPINION, seeing how you have 50 years experience in the political arena LOL, which past President displayed the correct amount of integrity?

Which President did a better job of instilling confidence in the White House...Presidency?

South Korea...Did they say they want no help from us? If so, I am all for letting them handle North Korea without our help. I wish them luck!

Americans are rapidly losing confidence...You never had confidence in him, is this in the same poll that said voters that voted for him would not change their vote? Or, is this another one of your "feelings"?

The rest of your post does not even deserve reading...

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

It is called integrity.

He is daily destroying the confidence of the White House...of the Presidency.

South Korea has already said publicly they will be slow to believe what he says, and Americans are rapidly losing confidence in everything that he says.

Day is coming when we will require honesty from the White House. Hope the truth makes Trump look good, or you will get a lie, and hope that does not have disasterous consequences.

He is still in election mode, playing to his fan club instead of Americans.

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I and millions of American disagree. I don't believe that hi supporters are losing confidence in him at all. Millions of us believe that he is doing a great job and is doing exactly what we elected him to do.

If anything, people I talk with are disappointed that he hasn't been able to get these things done fast enough. That the republicans can't all get on the same page and use the power that they have. People I know are very upset over them giving the democrats this horrendous budget that funds every thing that we were promised would get unfunded.

This budget is the disastrous consequences of the party in power not following through on their promises or recognizing why they were put in power. It adds to the debt and takes us in the wrong direction. Unfortunately, it appears that President Trump will sign it. Hopefully this is just part of a long term plan of giving a little and getting a lot in the long run.

I'm sorry to say that we're seeing politics as usual and that concerns about re-election is taking precedence over what they know is best for the country.

[Cedwards38]

Mmmm....and your beloved Barack Obama was a community organizer and a part of ACORN, so what's your point?

You forgot he was a member of the Illinois Senate and elected to and served in the United States Senate. Those are real facts, and not alternative facts.

[Rockyrd]

You are certainly entitled to your opinion. I and millions of American disagree. I don't believe that hi supporters are losing confidence in him at all. Millions of us believe that he is doing a great job and is doing exactly what we elected him to do.

If anything, people I talk with are disappointed that he hasn't been able to get these things done fast enough. That the republicans can't all get on the same page and use the power that they have. People I know are very upset over them giving the democrats this horrendous budget that funds every thing that we were promised would get unfunded.

This budget is the disastrous consequences of the party in power not following through on their promises or recognizing why they were put in power. It adds to the debt and takes us in the wrong direction. Unfortunately, it appears that President Trump will sign it. Hopefully this is just part of a long term plan of giving a little and getting a lot in the long run.

I'm sorry to say that we're seeing politics as usual and that concerns about re-election is taking precedence over what they know is best for the country.

I appreciate that we can disagree and I am not hearing about Obama, Clinton or that kind of stuff which is just plain stupid.

The budget is bad and I am also disappointed in the actual numbers for 2017 and the proposals being bandied about for 2018.

Just know, that me personally, it is tough to discuss topics much because you have no idea when the President is telling the truth....it fluctuates, not only in substance but in comparison to the real world. I just wish that topics like the budget and foreign policy were up for discussions, but we have a president, who I realize is adored by millions....actually that is one of the things that scares me most.....adoration and loyalty with no question at all, despite proven lies and accusations FROM the White House.

However, on the budget, how do you see the spending going down at all in 2018. Just weighing the "talk" on budget proposals is staggering in its sheer numbers after hearing so much criticism for 8 years, it appears it might be worse.

[dillywho]

You forgot he was a member of the Illinois Senate and elected to and served in the United States Senate. Those are real facts, and not alternative facts.

You are correct, I did fail to mention that fact.

Just googled Barack Obama's Senate voting record, most of which is furnished by FactCheck and is also a matter of public record, and it is not exactly what you would call "stellar". Missing 70% of the votes and just voting 'present' on especially controversial items does not scream of good representation. These records are reflective of Senate business in or just prior to the election years. There is much stuff there to go through and in all fairness, it was a Democrat controlled Senate, so maybe his votes or lack thereof, didn't or wouldn't make a difference.

[Cedwards38]

You are correct, I did fail to mention that fact.

Just googled Barack Obama's Senate voting record, most of which is furnished by FactCheck and is also a matter of public record, and it is not exactly what you would call "stellar". Missing 70% of the votes and just voting 'present' on especially controversial items does not scream of good representation. These records are reflective of Senate business in or just prior to the election years. There is much stuff there to go through and in all fairness, it was a Democrat controlled Senate, so maybe his votes or lack thereof, didn't or wouldn't make a difference.

Nevertheless, Obama was elected to the Presidency twice by winning the popular vote of American citizens. I think that really bothers Trump.

[dirtbanker]

Nevertheless, Obama was elected to the Presidency twice by winning the popular vote of American citizens. I think that really bothers Trump.

Obviously not as much as it bothers you that Trump won the presidency, when everyone said he could not win...

Hey sore loser, instead of searching for non stop negative crap about Trump as a person, why don't you spend your time posting some positive stuff about Crooked Hillary?

[dillywho]

Nevertheless, Obama was elected to the Presidency twice by winning the popular vote of American citizens. I think that really bothers Trump.

It matters not that he won the popular vote since he had to have the electoral votes, as well, which he did. That's how it worked then, and that's how it always has and does work.

[MDLNB]

Obviously not as much as it bothers you that Trump won the presidency, when everyone said he could not win...

Hey sore loser, instead of searching for non stop negative crap about Trump as a person, why don't you spend your time posting some positive stuff about Crooked Hillary?

Now, that will be a challenge.

Let me give it a go.

She failed her promise to NY to create jobs.

She DID author three bills in the senate. Of course, they were do nothing bills.

She was SecState, but that is not really a plus in her case, because she was not very good at that job either. She did lose some Americans while she was sleeping.

She was instrumental in turning over Libya to ISIS. Probably does not brag about that, either.

She broke several felony laws by having her own personal server to do gov business upon, some of it prohibited classified information.

She also made classified information available to uncleared individuals. Another felony, not yet prosecuted.

I'm sorry, but I really can't find anything good to say about Hillary, so I will have to pass this chore onto someone that is blinded by her celebrity status.

Oh, did I mention that she was instrumental in the sale of 20% of the world's uranium to Russia. I wonder if she could have gotten a better deal if she would have consulted with Trump?

[Rockyrd]

Obviously not as much as it bothers you that Trump won the presidency, when everyone said he could not win...

Hey sore loser, instead of searching for non stop negative crap about Trump as a person, why don't you spend your time posting some positive stuff about Crooked Hillary?

I just spend my time in this forum wondering the reaction of all the big mouths if Obama had said 1/3 of what Trump has said about vicious leaders of the world, including his invite to them. Referring to a conversation with North Korea as an "honor".

I can recall the loud shrilling when he bowed to a leader using normal local custom......yet here we are.......it is amazing.

My post is NOT about the right or wrong of the action but the sheer total hypocrisy of you big mouths.

I cringed when Obama embraced Cuba and I am sure you did also, but now we are fine to treat dictators as heroes....simply awesome the hypocrisy.

__________________________________________________ ________________

JOHN ADAMS (1735-1826)
The people "have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge-- I mean of the character and conduct of their rulers."

DWIGHT EISENHOWER (1890-1969)
The qualities of a great man are "vision, integrity, courage, understanding, the power of articulation, and profundity of character."

[Cedwards38]

Obviously not as much as it bothers you that Trump won the presidency, when everyone said he could not win...

Hey sore loser, instead of searching for non stop negative crap about Trump as a person, why don't you spend your time posting some positive stuff about Crooked Hillary?

OK, if you insist. How about more Americans voted for her for POTUS than any other candidate!

[dirtbanker]

I just spend my time in this forum wondering the reaction of all the big mouths if Obama had said 1/3 of what Trump has said about vicious leaders of the world, including his invite to them. Referring to a conversation with North Korea as an "honor".

I can recall the loud shrilling when he bowed to a leader using normal local custom......yet here we are.......it is amazing.

My post is NOT about the right or wrong of the action but the sheer total hypocrisy of you big mouths.

I cringed when Obama embraced Cuba and I am sure you did also, but now we are fine to treat dictators as heroes....simply awesome the hypocrisy.

__________________________________________________ ________________

JOHN ADAMS (1735-1826)
The people "have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge-- I mean of the character and conduct of their rulers."

DWIGHT EISENHOWER (1890-1969)
The qualities of a great man are "vision, integrity, courage, understanding, the power of articulation, and profundity of character."

Possibly the "Honor" is about the chance to converse and negotiate better relations...I suppose you feel doing NOTHING (what Obamma did) would be better?

So, is it John Adams and Dwight Eisenhower...those are the last presidents that lived up to your moral standards??

[MDLNB]

I just spend my time in this forum wondering the reaction of all the big mouths if Obama had said 1/3 of what Trump has said about vicious leaders of the world, including his invite to them. Referring to a conversation with North Korea as an "honor".

I can recall the loud shrilling when he bowed to a leader using normal local custom......yet here we are.......it is amazing.

My post is NOT about the right or wrong of the action but the sheer total hypocrisy of you big mouths.

I cringed when Obama embraced Cuba and I am sure you did also, but now we are fine to treat dictators as heroes....simply awesome the hypocrisy.

__________________________________________________ ________________

JOHN ADAMS (1735-1826)
The people "have a right, an indisputable, unalienable, indefeasible, divine right to that most dreaded and envied kind of knowledge-- I mean of the character and conduct of their rulers."

DWIGHT EISENHOWER (1890-1969)
The qualities of a great man are "vision, integrity, courage, understanding, the power of articulation, and profundity of character."

Obama said in a campaign debate that he would sit down and chat with the dictators of N.Korea, Iran, etc. Why is it a big deal when Trump said it?

[MDLNB]

OK, if you insist. How about more Americans voted for her for POTUS than any other candidate!

And yet, she lost. She lost because she is LAZY. Get over it.

[Cedwards38]

And yet, she lost. She lost because she is LAZY. Get over it.

Well, thanks for the suggestion, but no thanks. I have no intention of getting over it. And according to the Presidential Job Approval Polls for the current occupant of the White House, I'm not alone.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval | Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx)

[MDLNB]

Well, thanks for the suggestion, but no thanks. I have no intention of getting over it. And according to the Presidential Job Approval Polls for the current occupant of the White House, I'm not alone.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval | Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx)

No wonder you lost. You let polls dictate your life. How did that work for you last year? :1rotfl:

[Cedwards38]

No wonder you lost. You let polls dictate your life. How did that work for you last year? :1rotfl:

Not well at all, thank you for asking, but I'm really looking forward to the next big poll that matters, the 2018 Congressional elections. Brace yourself!

[Don Baldwin]

Not well at all, thank you for asking, but I'm really looking forward to the next big poll that matters, the 2018 Congressional elections. Brace yourself!

It may just happen...the people on the wrong side...you...are banding together, making a lot of noise...organizing...because you CAN...because "your side" is mostly women and minorities without jobs or responsibilities. The "right side" HAS jobs and responsibilities. The cities are FULL of the unemployed living on welfare...who CAN show up at protests...to get them even MORE free stuff.

Without affirmative action and quotas...where would blacks be today? They had 150 years to become our equals, they've been getting PREFERENTIAL treatment the last 60 years...what HAVE they done? Become MORE of a burden?

Hispanics aren't much better, just different. A Hispanic...Mexican...lets be real here...majority IS coming...within 30 years, the US Census says 2042 THEY become the majority. NONE of you are comprehending the change that WILL occur. Look at the border towns...that IS America's future. They ARE breeding us out.

Soon it will be mostly Hispanics being elected.

[MDLNB]

Not well at all, thank you for asking, but I'm really looking forward to the next big poll that matters, the 2018 Congressional elections. Brace yourself!

Why should I brace myself. We endured a socialist majority in the past, so I am sure we can endure it again. Americans get complacent and once they see that there is no such thing as a socialist utopia, they wake up and elect conservatives again. No one likes the burden of carrying the lazy. And liberals are lazy.

[banjobob]

Environmental policy of the Donald Trump administration - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environmental_policy_of_the_Donald_Trump_administr ation)

Trump's immigration, environmental, social, and other of his policies have us up in arms along with the various Russian connections to his campaign. Anthony Weiner's e-mails handed the election to Donald John Trump when FBI Director James Comey made that announcement abut 10 days before the election. Here's What the FBI Found in the Emails on Anthony Weiner's Laptop (http://www.newsweek.com/what-fbi-found-emails-anthony-weiner-laptop-517652)

We have a prick in the White House because of e-mails about someone's johnson. No that guy is speaking to banks at 400000 a pop. Americas first black liar president

[dirtbanker]

No that guy is speaking to banks at 400000 a pop. Americas first black liar president

Not to nit pick, but your post is inaccurate.
Obamma was the first HALF black liar president.

[ColdNoMore]

And the heretofore closet racists...keep oozing out of the woodwork. :D


Please keep it up though, as it is just more proof of the reason Obama was so despised...by a significant number of right-wingnut bigots & racists. :thumbup:

[dirtbanker]

And the heretofore closet racists...keep oozing out of the woodwork.


Please keep it up though, as it is just more proof of the reason Obama was so despised...by a significant number of right-wingnut bigots & racists.

Sort of like the left - wingnut bigot and racist that inferred people that do not speak good English are undocumented...

Race had no influence on my despising Obamma, it was all based on his actions / or lack of. The guy was a POS, just like you!

[dillywho]

Well, thanks for the suggestion, but no thanks. I have no intention of getting over it. And according to the Presidential Job Approval Polls for the current occupant of the White House, I'm not alone.

Gallup Daily: Trump Job Approval | Gallup (http://www.gallup.com/poll/201617/gallup-daily-trump-job-approval.aspx)

Guess you missed the news a few days ago about the latest unemployment figures. It is now the lowest it has been since 2007. There's one for you, and it is not from a poll.

[MDLNB]

Guess you missed the news a few days ago about the latest unemployment figures. It is now the lowest it has been since 2007. There's one for you, and it is not from a poll.

Of course, they will give Obama credit. Just wait.

Actually, Obama did have some part in the raise in employment. As soon as he left office, everyone was so ecstatic that they started hiring again.

[Joe De Vito]

No that guy is speaking to banks at 400000 a pop. Americas first black liar president

Compared to Trump, Obama is a saint. Only a fool would believe anything that comes out of Trump's mouth, or fingers. There are plenty of fools out there.

The one page tax plan put forward will save Trump millions in income taxes. The one two page tax return showed him paying millions in taxes. Why, because of the alternative minimum tax. Guess what he wants to eliminate. It wouldn't be the alternative minimum tax would it? Hell no. Trump wouldn't be that transparent. RIGHT!

That doesn't go far enough. He wants to reduce his tax rate.

He also wants to eliminate the estate tax. That will save his kids hundreds of millions in taxes.

To Trump $400,000 is chump change.

Have no fear his supporters, who can't find their butts with both their hands, will stand by him. Why? Stupidity holds no bounds.

[Don Baldwin]

Compared to Trump, Obama is a saint. Only a fool would believe anything that comes out of Trump's mouth, or fingers. There are plenty of fools out there.

The one page tax plan put forward will save Trump millions in income taxes. The one two page tax return showed him paying millions in taxes. Why, because of the alternative minimum tax. Guess what he wants to eliminate. It wouldn't be the alternative minimum tax would it? Hell no. Trump wouldn't be that transparent. RIGHT!

That doesn't go far enough. He wants to reduce his tax rate.

He also wants to eliminate the estate tax. That will save his kids hundreds of millions in taxes.

To Trump $400,000 is chump change.

Have no fear his supporters, who can't find their butts with both their hands, will stand by him. Why? Stupidity holds no bounds.

Obama gave our country away to the black/Hispanic minorities.

Which is worse?

[autumnspring]

You're right, it's not just the left. Some of those of the extreme right believe that he's not conservative enough just as some on on the extreme left didn't support President Obama for not being liberal enough.

But right now his approval rating is rising and his disapproval rating is dropping, if you can believe polls. Of course these are the same polls that predicted there was a less than 15% that he would be elected, so who knows what to believe?

Right now, according to Gallup, his disapproval is 51%. You have to factor a certain number of those are on the right that think that he should be more conservative. Many of those are disappointed that he didn't get the ACA repealed or that the wall hasn't been built by now. some of his supporters, just as President Obama's supporters have an un realistic view of how fast things can be accomplished.

His approval rating is at 43% which leaves about 6% of those polled who have no opinion.

I expect that as the economy continues to grow and more, good paying jobs are created, as the ACA gets dismantled and the wall gets built, you'll see a lot of those on the right get on his side. Also we'll have to see where those 6% come down.

I was contacted before the election by a poll. Once they determined I was voting for Trump the line went dead.
I've heard the same from others. NO WONDER THE POLLS WERE FALSE.

Also, here in the VILLAGES I received several mailings from the DEMOCRATS they were addressed to me using my first middle and last name. I only use my middle name on FINANCIAL DOCUMENTS. Translation, they used a list from the VILLAGES SALES OFFICE or from the VILLAGES BANK-CITIZENS FIRST.

[Joe De Vito]

Obama gave our country away to the black/Hispanic minorities.

Which is worse?

Obama gave our country away to blacks/Hispanics? How did he do that? You can't make a statement and not back it up. Considering what is on the forum, apparently you can.

You might want to check the number of Hispanics Obama deported.

Trump is a president. He is a circus clown.

[Don Baldwin]

Obama gave our country away to blacks/Hispanics? How did he do that? You can't make a statement and not back it up. Considering what is on the forum, apparently you can.

You might want to check the number of Hispanics Obama deported.

Trump is a president. He is a circus clown.

You might want to check and you'll find out that Hispanics are the MAJORITY of children being born. They'll be the majority within 30 years.

[MDLNB]

Obama gave our country away to blacks/Hispanics? How did he do that? You can't make a statement and not back it up. Considering what is on the forum, apparently you can.

You might want to check the number of Hispanics Obama deported.

Trump is a president. He is a circus clown.

A BILLIONAIRE CLOWN. A WINNING CLOWN. The one that beat the falling down, two time loser, tramp. Does that work for you? Rhetorical question. No answer necessary when I am stating the obvious.

[wjboyer1]

White House Denies Any Ties to United States - The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/white-house-denies-any-ties-to-united-states)

ROFL

[Rockyrd]

White House Denies Any Ties to United States - The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/humor/borowitz-report/white-house-denies-any-ties-to-united-states)

ROFL

While sarcasm, the ring of truth is there.

It is so disappointing to have a President who while a disgusting human being, held hope maybe.

But we find he roots against his country, UNLESS IT BENEFITS HIM PERSONALLY. He has totally turned on his supporters...he tweets to keep them "on call" but he has all but abandoned them. He continues a LIFE LONG career as a liar, only this time he is in the Oval Office and is lying to us.

[Rockyrd]

A BILLIONAIRE CLOWN. A WINNING CLOWN. The one that beat the falling down, two time loser, tramp. Does that work for you? Rhetorical question. No answer necessary when I am stating the obvious.

Election is over. He won.

Start measuring him as a President. Start KNOWING his lying is on YOUR behalf. His EO's, which are basically a series of ordered studies on subjects does not make him a leader.

When does he talk to the nation off prompter ?

When does HE step up and explain what our foreign policy is and where it is headed(obviously not what he said while campaigning) ?

When does he understand that he continues to demean citizens of this country that actually have done something for that country ?

Someday, this will all shake out.....I had hope, but have totally lost it.

I am sick of hearing from you idiots about Clinton and Obama. Step up.....listen without him telling you what to think.

[MDLNB]

Election is over. He won.

Start measuring him as a President. Start KNOWING his lying is on YOUR behalf. His EO's, which are basically a series of ordered studies on subjects does not make him a leader.

When does he talk to the nation off prompter ?

When does HE step up and explain what our foreign policy is and where it is headed(obviously not what he said while campaigning) ?

When does he understand that he continues to demean citizens of this country that actually have done something for that country ?

Someday, this will all shake out.....I had hope, but have totally lost it.

I am sick of hearing from you idiots about Clinton and Obama. Step up.....listen without him telling you what to think.

It's a shame to see you despondent like this. Why can't you get over Trump's win?
You're right, E.O.s do not make the leader. Obama signed a bunch of them, and proved not to be a leader. On the other hand, Trump's actions have shown he is a leader, whether or not you approve. He's made some difficult decisions, and half believe they were good decisions and half (YOU) believe they were bad. Oh well, you can't satisfy those that are not looking to be satisfied.
Why should he speak to the nation off prompter? Perhaps he does not wish to sound like he is lecturing children, like Obama did consistently. Perhaps, he feels that his many interviews by supposed news reporters is sufficient. I have not seen a mandate for the president to make so many appearances to discuss his job.
His foreign policy is flexible and "evolving" like Obama's many views. Why did you give Obama a pass and not Trump. Are you racist?
Demean our country? So far, Trump has not made an "apology tour" to other countries. Perhaps those that are supposedly demeaned deserve his non-PC view?
You are sick? I am sorry to hear that and hope you get well soon.

You asked the question, and you received answers. I doubt you wanted answers, and I doubt you will be satisfied, but HEY, that's life.