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Chi-Town
05-05-2017, 07:53 AM
A big celebration day here in the Villages. It's origin is the Battle of Puebla in1862 where a ragtag Mexican army defeated the French.
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Taltarzac725
05-05-2017, 08:07 AM
A big celebration day here in the Villages. It's origin is the Battle of Puebla in1862 where a ragtag Mexican army defeated the French.
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Thanks for posting that Chi-Town. ;)
manaboutown
05-05-2017, 01:35 PM
Actually Cinco de Mayo is not celebrated in Mexico except in the state of Puebla where the obscure battle occurred. Mexican (Chicano) immigrants in California started to celebrate it from the 1940's onward but the big push came in 1989 when the Gambrinus Group, a San Antonio based beer importer of Corona and Grupo Modelo, launched an ad campaign to encourage Mexican immigrants to drink Mexican beer on that day. So a beer company largely launched Cinco de Mayo into what it has become today in the USA! How Corona Made Cinco De Mayo An American Holiday | VinePair (https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/how-corona-made-cinco-de-mayo-an-american-holiday/)
Chi-Town
05-05-2017, 02:01 PM
Actually Cinco de Mayo is not celebrated in Mexico except in the state of Puebla where the obscure battle occurred. Mexican (Chicano) immigrants in California started to celebrate it from the 1940's onward but the big push came in 1989 when the Gambrinus Group, a San Antonio based beer importer of Corona and Grupo Modelo, launched an ad campaign to encourage Mexican immigrants to drink Mexican beer on that day. So a beer company largely launched Cinco de Mayo into what it has become today! How Corona Made Cinco De Mayo An American Holiday | VinePair (https://vinepair.com/wine-blog/how-corona-made-cinco-de-mayo-an-american-holiday/)
Cinco de Mayo is huge in the Chicago area. The weather is finally getting nice there, and it's a chance to just party without obligations. Just like in Mexico very few Mexicans take part in the festivities.
The Lifestyle section in today's Sun features the celebration here.
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manaboutown
05-05-2017, 02:24 PM
Cinco de Mayo is huge in the Chicago area. The weather is finally getting nice there, and it's a chance to just party without obligations. Just like in Mexico very few Mexicans take part in the festivities.
The Lifestyle section in today's Sun features the celebration here.
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It is a great excuse to party for many of us "Anglos" all over the USA - and increasingly even the world. I'd say that 1989 beer commercial has earned - unimagined at the time - billions of dollars for Mexican beer brewers!
None of the Mexico born people residing in the USA I personally know in either California or New Mexico celebrate it at all in a holiday sense. It literally means nothing to them although they love to party like anyone else.
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-05-2017, 05:29 PM
Why do we celebrate a Mexican holiday in the US?
We don't celebrate Boxing Day, Canada Day, Italian Liberation Day, Japanese Showa Day, Bastille Day or any other foreign holiday.
I expect to be called a racist for asking this question but I think that it's a reasonable question.
Nucky
05-05-2017, 05:43 PM
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:I think somebody's real first name is Donald! Why not celebrate it? Is there a specific reason for the question? All the other days may have organized get togethers that are not as popular. Ole!
manaboutown
05-05-2017, 05:51 PM
Why do we celebrate a Mexican holiday in the US?
We don't celebrate Boxing Day, Canada Day, Italian Liberation Day, Japanese Showa Day, Bastille Day or any other foreign holiday.
I expect to be called a racist for asking this question but I think that it's a reasonable question.
It is not celebrated as a holiday in Mexico so I do not consider it a Mexican holiday. It is more of a USA spring break and party down day which the beer companies continue to heavily promote. From what I read people are even starting to celebrate Cinco de Mayo in Australia, New Zealand, Japan and parts of Europe. Bottom line: any excuse to party will do.
Mexican independence day is September 16 which is of course celebrated down there but I never hear a peep about it here. BTW, my mother's family always got together on Boxing Day!
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-05-2017, 06:30 PM
it is not celebrated as a holiday in mexico so i do not consider it a mexican holiday. It is more of a usa spring break and party down day which the beer companies continue to heavily promote. From what i read people are even starting to celebrate cinco de mayo in australia, new zealand, japan and parts of europe. Bottom line: Any excuse to party will do.
Mexican independence day is september 16 which is of course celebrated down there but i never hear a peep about it here. Btw, my mother's family always got together on boxing day!
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cinco de mayo (pronounced: [ˈsiŋko ðe ˈmaʝo]; spanish for "fifth of may") is a celebration held on may 5. The date is observed to commemorate the mexican army's unlikely victory over french forces at the battle of puebla on may 5, 1862, under the leadership of general ignacio zaragoza.[1][2]
manaboutown
05-05-2017, 06:40 PM
It is not a big deal holiday in Mexico and can be argued to be a minor one at best. It is only celebrated in Puebla and maybe Veracruz.
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Chi-Town
05-05-2017, 09:25 PM
Fun time in Spanish Springs watching the Folkloric dancers in their. colorful dresses.
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Ooper
05-05-2017, 09:37 PM
But in reality... Hellmann's Mayonnaise Company is really behind the holiday - a bit of history...
Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as - Sinko De Mayo.
Chi-Town
05-05-2017, 09:49 PM
Why do we celebrate a Mexican holiday in the US?
We don't celebrate Boxing Day, Canada Day, Italian Liberation Day, Japanese Showa Day, Bastille Day or any other foreign holiday.
I expect to be called a racist for asking this question but I think that it's a reasonable question.
The Villages celebrates a lot of ethnic themed events. Haven't you've seen the Italian and St Patrick's Day parade in Spanish Springs? Or Tartan Day and Dyngus Day in LSL? Cinco de Mayo is at both of those squares. And don't forget Mardi Gras for a little Cajun flare. So don't act surprised at a Mexican themed celebration.
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RickeyD
05-05-2017, 10:09 PM
All my Mexican neighbors are in the street banging pots & pans !
This gringo will stay inside.
rivaridger1
05-06-2017, 07:19 AM
:eclipsee_gold_cup:[QUOTE=Ooper;1395406]But in reality... Hellmann's Mayonnaise Company is really behind the holiday - a bit of history...
Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as - Sinko De Mayo.
:eclipsee_gold_cup: WOW !!!
Chi-Town
05-06-2017, 07:21 AM
But in reality... Hellmann's Mayonnaise Company is really behind the holiday - a bit of history...
Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as - Sinko De Mayo.
Funny.
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Taltarzac725
05-06-2017, 07:46 AM
But in reality... Hellmann's Mayonnaise Company is really behind the holiday - a bit of history...
Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as - Sinko De Mayo.
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Thanks. That was funny.
John_W
05-06-2017, 09:16 AM
Celebrations in unlikely US cities. I lived most of the 80's in Savannah, Georgia. I went to the St. Patrick's Day Celebration there just once. Savannah's population is only about 150,000 but on that day, well over 300,000 turn out making it the second largest celebration in the US. One day beer licenses are sold and green beer stands are all over downtown. Here's a photo from 2016 on River Street.
http://www.savannah.com/wp-content/uploads/River-Street-Savannah-St-Patricks-Day_2-700x350.jpg
Those buildings on the right were cotton warehouses in the 1800's. Today the bottom floor faces cobblestone River Street and they are occupied by bars, restaurants and gift shops. Two floors up, the top floor faces the opposite direction which is Bay Street. There you'll find law offices, realtors, and many other businesses.
ColdNoMore
05-06-2017, 04:45 PM
But in reality... Hellmann's Mayonnaise Company is really behind the holiday - a bit of history...
Most people don't know that back in 1912, Hellmann's mayonnaise was manufactured in England. In fact, the Titanic was carrying 12,000jars of the condiment scheduled for delivery in Vera Cruz, Mexico, which was to be the next port of call for the great ship after its stop in New York. This would have been the largest single shipment of mayonnaise ever delivered to Mexico. But as we know, the great ship did not make it to New York. The ship hit an iceberg and sank, and the cargo was forever lost. The people of Mexico, who were crazy about mayonnaise, and were eagerly awaiting its delivery, were disconsolate at the loss. Their anguish was so great, that they declared a National Day of Mourning, which they still observe to this day. The National Day of Mourning occurs each year on May 5th and is known, of course, as - Sinko De Mayo.
:1rotfl:
:thumbup:
On another note, some may not know the back story on Mexico's infatuation with mayonnaise.
Up until their infatuation with mayo, a tomato based condiment was the most popular with the country.
Most would assume that it was salsa, however history shows that it was another tomato based condiment that they had actually fallen for.
To stem the popularity of this other tomato based condiment, there was a rush to get the mayonnaise to the country to try and slow the rise of this new condiment.
In the rush to get underway, the Titanic left Southampton, England with their radar only working partially...which is the real reason it hit the iceberg.
In other words, the hurry to leave the port without all of the safety devices working on the Titanic was primarily because they were behind schedule in delivering the mayonnaise and were simply...trying to ketchup.
BOO-JEER.... :D
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-06-2017, 06:54 PM
The Villages celebrates a lot of ethnic themed events. Haven't you've seen the Italian and St Patrick's Day parade in Spanish Springs? Or Tartan Day and Dyngus Day in LSL? Cinco de Mayo is at both of those squares. And don't forget Mardi Gras for a little Cajun flare. So don't act surprised at a Mexican themed celebration.
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I was talking about in the entire country in general.
As far as The Villages, I believe that there area lot of people of Italian, Irish and Scottish heritage in The Villages. There are a lot of Polish people as well. I doubt that there is a significant Mexican population although I do know that there is a rather substantial Filipino population but we don't celebrate any
Filipino holidays.
Mardi Gras is an American celebration. It began in New Orleans and has a Catholic connection.
perrjojo
05-06-2017, 07:03 PM
Why do we celebrate a Mexican holiday in the US?
We don't celebrate Boxing Day, Canada Day, Italian Liberation Day, Japanese Showa Day, Bastille Day or any other foreign holiday.
I expect to be called a racist for asking this question but I think that it's a reasonable question.
Because we like an excuse to drink Corona and lime and margaritas. It's not a racist question. Most people have no idea what the celebration is about.
manaboutown
05-06-2017, 08:38 PM
Because we like an excuse to drink Corona and lime and margaritas. It's not a racist question. Most people have no idea what the celebration is about.
And they truly do not care!
pauld315
05-06-2017, 08:56 PM
Celebrations in unlikely US cities. I lived most of the 80's in Savannah, Georgia. I went to the St. Patrick's Day Celebration there just once. Savannah's population is only about 150,000 but on that day, well over 300,000 turn out making it the second largest celebration in the US. One day beer licenses are sold and green beer stands are all over downtown. Here's a photo from 2016 on River Street.
http://www.savannah.com/wp-content/uploads/River-Street-Savannah-St-Patricks-Day_2-700x350.jpg
Those buildings on the right were cotton warehouses in the 1800's. Today the bottom floor faces cobblestone River Street and they are occupied by bars, restaurants and gift shops. Two floors up, the top floor faces the opposite direction which is Bay Street. There you'll find law offices, realtors, and many other businesses.
I have heard it is quite the celebration and I hope to make it there someday for it. The Irish have a very long history in Georgia with the first known settled there in the late 1600's. The Irish built much of the infrastructure for Georgia back in the 1800's (railroads etc) and many towns and counties have distinct Irish names. During the potato famine many thousands of Irish settled in the south and in Georgia. There is still a large amount of Irish Americans living in Georgia and the Savannah area.
manaboutown
05-06-2017, 09:05 PM
Will Guy Fawkes Day, Nov. 5, 2017, be celebrated in The Villages?
Chi-Town
05-06-2017, 09:08 PM
I was talking about in the entire country in general.
As far as The Villages, I believe that there area lot of people of Italian, Irish and Scottish heritage in The Villages. There are a lot of Polish people as well. I doubt that there is a significant Mexican population although I do know that there is a rather substantial Filipino population but we don't celebrate any
Filipino holidays.
Mardi Gras is an American celebration. It began in New Orleans and has a Catholic connection.
OK, OK. This may help you feel less racial. Enjoy this little bit of history.....
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Chi-Town
05-06-2017, 09:12 PM
Will Guy Fawkes Day, Nov. 5, 2017, be celebrated in The Villages?
It's on my calendar.
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manaboutown
05-06-2017, 09:21 PM
It's on my calendar.
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circletrack
05-06-2017, 11:49 PM
I was talking about in the entire country in general.
As far as The Villages, I believe that there area lot of people of Italian, Irish and Scottish heritage in The Villages. There are a lot of Polish people as well. I doubt that there is a significant Mexican population although I do know that there is a rather substantial Filipino population but we don't celebrate any
Filipino holidays.
Mardi Gras is an American celebration. It began in New Orleans and has a Catholic connection.
You may not be following the whole thread, but the reason has been given already a few times. Aside from the one main town in Mexico, this holiday is mostly an American-made tradition. I wouldn't over think it too much. It's one day out of the year.
TheDude
05-07-2017, 12:30 AM
You may not be following the whole thread, but the reason has been given already a few times. Aside from the one main town in Mexico, this holiday is mostly an American-made tradition. I wouldn't over think it too much. It's one day out of the year.
Happy Mexican St. Paddy's day.
personally, the Kentucky Derby was a bigger deal.
circletrack
05-07-2017, 08:11 AM
Happy Mexican St. Paddy's day.
personally, the Kentucky Derby was a bigger deal.
Agreed
WhoDat
05-08-2017, 07:36 PM
I don't celebrate Cinco de Mayo since the Mexican Army beating the French Army is considered only meeting minimum requirements.
charmed59
05-09-2017, 08:14 AM
I consider it similar to St. Patricks day, an excuse Americans made up to drink beer and have guacamole.
xNYer
05-09-2017, 10:39 AM
Why do we celebrate a Mexican holiday in the US?
We don't celebrate Boxing Day, Canada Day, Italian Liberation Day, Japanese Showa Day, Bastille Day or any other foreign holiday.
I expect to be called a racist for asking this question but I think that it's a reasonable question.
What do you think of the celebrations in the town squares for Dyngus Day, Tartan Day, St Patrick's Day?
Is there a reason why no comments are ever made about those?
simpkinp
05-09-2017, 08:06 PM
I have no Mexican heritage but am from California and love, love Mexican food and the wonderful Mexican friends I had there. The food is totally different from what you find on this coast. I cook Mexican food all the time., and so do my sons. I love Cinco de Mayo as it is a reason to celebrate a great culture. I fixed Shredded chicken enchiladas for a neighborhood party and sadly nothing was left, but I tamed it down for older tummies. Thankfully I have more shredded chicken left. I had a HUGE bowl I made yesterday and let it sit a day to blend flavor. Sad what has happened to a great country I enjoyed. Drugs and gangs. Let it not happen here!
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