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larbud
05-05-2017, 10:20 AM
'Good Samaritan' Kills Active Shooter in Texas Restaurant
A sad day for liberal politicians. Liberals would prefer that the the murderer have his way and kill everyone there and his life be spared. That way the murderer could receive tax payer assistance and counciling to help him have a better life, plus he could sue the estates of all those he murdered. Plenty of political judges would be supportive of him. But now, liberal politicians just lost a potential vote. Now how sad is that? Only criminals should have guns. Liberals love criminals and hate law abiding citizens that can't be brainwashed.
AJ32162
05-05-2017, 11:03 AM
'Good Samaritan' Kills Active Shooter in Texas Restaurant
A sad day for liberal politicians. Liberals would prefer that the the murderer have his way and kill everyone there and his life be spared. That way the murderer could receive tax payer assistance and counciling to help him have a better life, plus he could sue the estates of all those he murdered. Plenty of political judges would be supportive of him. But now, liberal politicians just lost a potential vote. Now how sad is that? Only criminals should have guns. Liberals love criminals and hate law abiding citizens that can't be brainwashed.
Some liberals are more concerned with making information available to the victims and survivors of crimes (so that the victims can deal with the trauma and aftermath of being victimized), than they are in supporting lengthy periods of incarceration for those that commit the crime.
cologal
05-05-2017, 11:24 AM
'Good Samaritan' Kills Active Shooter in Texas Restaurant
A sad day for liberal politicians. Liberals would prefer that the the murderer have his way and kill everyone there and his life be spared. That way the murderer could receive tax payer assistance and counciling to help him have a better life, plus he could sue the estates of all those he murdered. Plenty of political judges would be supportive of him. But now, liberal politicians just lost a potential vote. Now how sad is that? Only criminals should have guns. Liberals love criminals and hate law abiding citizens that can't be brainwashed.
And Republicans are full of BS..... For 8 years you all whined about how Obama was going to STEAL your guns and nothing happened.
As a person how had to stare down a WHITE MALE with a gun to put him in jail. All I would like is some common sense gun laws. Like how about limiting the expanded clips or magazines for the automatic weapons commonly used in mass shooting. They are certainly not used for deer hunting!
COPUFF
Taltarzac725
05-05-2017, 11:24 AM
Some liberals are more concerned with making information available to the victims and survivors of crimes (so that the victims can deal with the trauma and aftermath of being victimized), than they are in supporting lengthy periods of incarceration for those that commit the crime.
And whom are you talking about here? Those who commit heinous crimes should get at least life.
And common sense gun laws are very much needed.
MDLNB
05-05-2017, 12:14 PM
And Republicans are full of BS..... For 8 years you all whined about how Obama was going to STEAL your guns and nothing happened.
As a person how had to stare down a WHITE MALE with a gun to put him in jail. All I would like is some common sense gun laws. Like how about limiting the expanded clips or magazines for the automatic weapons commonly used in mass shooting. They are certainly not used for deer hunting!
COPUFF
Why don't you educate yourself on the subject of guns before making such ludicrous comments?
The second amendment is NOT about hunting. Although, hunting with a weapon is protected by the second amendment.
Automatic weapons are illegal unless a special federal license is obtained. If you know of any murders perpetrated by automatic weapons, then they were illegally obtained. Limiting the amount of ammo in a magazine hardly makes a difference in murder. Mass shootings are an exception and not a norm, so making laws that hinder gun ownership is not much difference than attempting to change the laws to the weight and material of an auto that might be used in a mass murder by auto.
There are millions of guns in America. There will always be a few crazies living among over 300 million in our population.
We have common sense gun laws. Dealers are required to submit a background check. Training is required in most states before issuing a concealed carry permit. No guns in bars, gov buildings and public schools, etc. All they have to do is enforce the existing laws.
Just like immigration laws. You can have all the protection of the laws on paper you want, but if you don't enforce them, then the people become victims.
Chi-Town
05-05-2017, 12:50 PM
Why don't you educate yourself on the subject of guns before making such ludicrous comments?
The second amendment is NOT about hunting. Although, hunting with a weapon is protected by the second amendment.
Automatic weapons are illegal unless a special federal license is obtained. If you know of any murders perpetrated by automatic weapons, then they were illegally obtained. Limiting the amount of ammo in a magazine hardly makes a difference in murder. Mass shootings are an exception and not a norm, so making laws that hinder gun ownership is not much difference than attempting to change the laws to the weight and material of an auto that might be used in a mass murder by auto.
There are millions of guns in America. There will always be a few crazies living among over 300 million in our population.
We have common sense gun laws. Dealers are required to submit a background check. Training is required in most states before issuing a concealed carry permit. No guns in bars, gov buildings and public schools, etc. All they have to do is enforce the existing laws.
Just like immigration laws. You can have all the protection of the laws on paper you want, but if you don't enforce them, then the people become victims.
Kind of makes you miss your old Smith & Wesson forum, eh?
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MDLNB
05-05-2017, 01:00 PM
Kind of makes you miss your old Smith & Wesson forum, eh?
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Probably more than you miss working for Cardinal Health.
Don Baldwin
05-05-2017, 01:25 PM
Some liberals are more concerned with making information available to the victims and survivors of crimes (so that the victims can deal with the trauma and aftermath of being victimized), than they are in supporting lengthy periods of incarceration for those that commit the crime.
How about information about how NOT to be a victim in the first place? And then death for VIOLENT multiple offenders.
And Republicans are full of BS..... For 8 years you all whined about how Obama was going to STEAL your guns and nothing happened.
As a person how had to stare down a WHITE MALE with a gun to put him in jail. All I would like is some common sense gun laws. Like how about limiting the expanded clips or magazines for the automatic weapons commonly used in mass shooting. They are certainly not used for deer hunting!
COPUFF
That is the EXCEPTION...look it up yourself...minorities are responsible for 80% of violet crimes. You have to remember that Hispanics have been counted as white.
Why don't you educate yourself on the subject of guns before making such ludicrous comments?
The second amendment is NOT about hunting. Although, hunting with a weapon is protected by the second amendment.
Automatic weapons are illegal unless a special federal license is obtained. If you know of any murders perpetrated by automatic weapons, then they were illegally obtained. Limiting the amount of ammo in a magazine hardly makes a difference in murder. Mass shootings are an exception and not a norm, so making laws that hinder gun ownership is not much difference than attempting to change the laws to the weight and material of an auto that might be used in a mass murder by auto.
There are millions of guns in America. There will always be a few crazies living among over 300 million in our population.
We have common sense gun laws. Dealers are required to submit a background check. Training is required in most states before issuing a concealed carry permit. No guns in bars, gov buildings and public schools, etc. All they have to do is enforce the existing laws.
Just like immigration laws. You can have all the protection of the laws on paper you want, but if you don't enforce them, then the people become victims.
No it not...it's about an ARMED populace. There wasn't supposed to BE a standing Army owned by the federal gov. The PEOPLE were supposed to be the Army. "A well regulated militia, the right of the PEOPLE to bear ARMS shall not be infringed". The people were supposed to form neighborhood militias for the common defense of their farm, community, county, state, or nation. ARMS meant everything available as a weapon. We were never supposed to be an empire.
A FEW white crazies but a whole lot of minorities who regularly use guns. You want to cut ALL crime by 80%? Ban the minorities from being in public. It's simple. THEY are the problem. Minorities with guns is America's gun problem.
Exactly...we ALLOWED 100 million Hispanics to waltz in and out over the last 30 years...11 million here at any given time...dropping ILLEGAL anchor babies who were considered citizens who are now along with their children...breeding white people out of the country. Hispanics are already the majority of babies born and within 30 years WILL be the absolute majority. You LET them turn America into Mexico II. Look at the border towns...ALREADY Mexico II.
billethkid
05-05-2017, 02:03 PM
And Republicans are full of BS..... For 8 years you all whined about how Obama was going to STEAL your guns and nothing happened.
As a person how had to stare down a WHITE MALE with a gun to put him in jail. All I would like is some common sense gun laws. Like how about limiting the expanded clips or magazines for the automatic weapons commonly used in mass shooting. They are certainly not used for deer hunting!
COPUFF
We could adopt the strictest guns laws in the USA like the state of Illinois, specifically Chicago.....to make us all safer!!
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
Don Baldwin
05-05-2017, 02:22 PM
We could adopt the strictest guns laws in the USA like the state of Illinois, specifically Chicago.....to make us all safer!!
:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
We could throw out ALL the black and brown minorities and REALLY make America safe...AND great again.
They commit 80% of the crime. They've dragged us down from #1 to #25.
How about a national referendum BEFORE it's too late? Liberia was created specifically for repatriation.
rubicon
05-05-2017, 02:30 PM
And Republicans are full of BS..... For 8 years you all whined about how Obama was going to STEAL your guns and nothing happened.
As a person how had to stare down a WHITE MALE with a gun to put him in jail. All I would like is some common sense gun laws. Like how about limiting the expanded clips or magazines for the automatic weapons commonly used in mass shooting. They are certainly not used for deer hunting!
COPUFF
Please let me ask, do you honestly believe that Obama did not pursue his attmepts to disseminate the 2nd Amendment simply out the goodness of his heart?
The vast majority of citizens in this nation hold the 2nd Amendment sacrosanct and Obama realized that but kept trying to find a way to insert his gun control goals but people were not buying what he was selling.
Interestingly the ex-Illinois senator state has the toughest gun control laws in the nation and yet even those "expanded clips or magazine automatic weapons" you reference abound in Chicago . Just ask the Chicago cops because they were used against them.
To suggest that gun control is the solution to the problems associated with crime, the mentally ill or terrorists is naive at minimum and ignores true cause and preventive solutions.
And I'll go one step further and say that there are some situation that no matter what authorities/experts do will never prevent these tragedies from happening. risk is inherent in life
Personal Best Regards:
MDLNB
05-05-2017, 02:54 PM
We could throw out ALL the black and brown minorities and REALLY make America safe...AND great again.
They commit 80% of the crime. They've dragged us down from #1 to #25.
How about a national referendum BEFORE it's too late? Liberia was created specifically for repatriation.
As harsh as that sounds, it's hard to argue with the truth.
larbud
05-05-2017, 03:13 PM
As harsh as that sounds, it's hard to argue with the truth.
Truth anymore rquals harsh reality to most...
Don Baldwin
05-05-2017, 03:44 PM
As harsh as that sounds, it's hard to argue with the truth.
Truth anymore rquals harsh reality to most...
It's absolutely the truth.
Norman Rockwell's America didn't have many blacks...and his world was idyllic. America WAS #1 back then...it was also VERY white.
We are NOT equal...so we will NEVER all get along as equals.
How long have men and women been together? Forever...millions of years...men and women, living together, raising a family. Women are STILL after millions of years...are complaining that men treat them unfairly. Why? Because we're NOT equal and the men know it.
dirtbanker
05-05-2017, 04:07 PM
As a person how had to stare down a WHITE MALE with a gun to put him in jail. All I would like is some common sense gun laws. Like how about limiting the expanded clips or magazines for the automatic weapons commonly used in mass shooting. They are certainly not used for deer hunting!
COPUFF
Well you never found time to explain what exactly took place after some discrepancies in your story were questioned...
Chi-Town
05-05-2017, 10:02 PM
Wow. What a string of posts.......MDCPD, Donny B, BTK, Donny B again, PBR, MDCPD again, Lbud, Donny B again, and the Dirt. Must have been a white sale going on.
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Don Baldwin
05-06-2017, 05:03 AM
Wow. What a string of posts.......MDCPD, Donny B, BTK, Donny B again, PBR, MDCPD again, Lbud, Donny B again, and the Dirt. Must have been a white sale going on.
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And once again...you have nothing to say.
Lets hear about equality...tell me about all the good the blacks are doing in CHI town. Explain to me WHY there is so much violence and killing in West and South Chicago. Explain to us WHY you and the others won't go to MLK Blvd at midnight on a Saturday night.
MDLNB
05-06-2017, 06:53 AM
Wow. What a string of posts.......MDCPD, Donny B, BTK, Donny B again, PBR, MDCPD again, Lbud, Donny B again, and the Dirt. Must have been a white sale going on.
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If you don't agree with the facts, then it must be wrong. Are you going to sing "good bye, Irene" like the retards in congress when the House passed the Obiecare repeal? I laughed for a while on that one. How silly and pathetic can they get? It looks like they wish to keep the band playing as the Titanic (Democrat party) sinks into oblivion.
All I could do is laugh as I heard Booker and Bernie scream "but people are going to DIE." hysterically. "But we can fix the flawed Obiecare" they insisted. Really, we can. Just wait until the health care industry is totally destroyed and then have the gov take over........right.
The left needs a hail Mary and what do they have? They have "Resistance" Hillary, attempting to make a come back. Not really, but it is a good cover for gathering easy money. And the foolish women are rushing with their grocery money to support her. WOW! Can the left get any more pathetic. Time for the old Democratic party to dust off their monkey suits and take over for the radical children...the socialists.
larbud
05-06-2017, 06:57 AM
Wow. What a string of posts.......MDCPD, Donny B, BTK, Donny B again, PBR, MDCPD again, Lbud, Donny B again, and the Dirt. Must have been a white sale going on.
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What an airhead. As Jerry Clower used to say, some people are educated beyond their intelligence.
dirtbanker
05-06-2017, 07:22 AM
Wow. What a string of posts.......MDCPD, Donny B, BTK, Donny B again, PBR, MDCPD again, Lbud, Donny B again, and the Dirt. Must have been a white sale going on.
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Pabst Blue Ribbon is on here?
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Don Baldwin
05-06-2017, 07:27 AM
If you don't agree with the facts, then it must be wrong. Are you going to sing "good bye, Irene" like the retards in congress when the House passed the Obiecare repeal? I laughed for a while on that one. How silly and pathetic can they get? It looks like they wish to keep the band playing as the Titanic (Democrat party) sinks into oblivion.
All I could do is laugh as I heard Booker and Bernie scream "but people are going to DIE." hysterically. "But we can fix the flawed Obiecare" they insisted. Really, we can. Just wait until the health care industry is totally destroyed and then have the gov take over........right.
The left needs a hail Mary and what do they have? They have "Resistance" Hillary, attempting to make a come back. Not really, but it is a good cover for gathering easy money. And the foolish women are rushing with their grocery money to support her. WOW! Can the left get any more pathetic. Time for the old Democratic party to dust off their monkey suits and take over for the radical children...the socialists.
As the country, as America, as white culture sinks into oblivion.
What an airhead. As Jerry Clower used to say, some people are educated beyond their intelligence.
And some aren't educated...they're brainwashed.
larbud
05-06-2017, 08:27 AM
As the country, as America, as white culture sinks into oblivion.
And some aren't educated...they're brainwashed.
Indoctrinated!!
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-06-2017, 08:40 AM
And Republicans are full of BS..... For 8 years you all whined about how Obama was going to STEAL your guns and nothing happened.
As a person how had to stare down a WHITE MALE with a gun to put him in jail. All I would like is some common sense gun laws. Like how about limiting the expanded clips or magazines for the automatic weapons commonly used in mass shooting. They are certainly not used for deer hunting!
COPUFF
Automatic weapons are banned in this country unless you obtain an extremely difficult to get and expensive permit. Even then the restrictions place on them are huge. I don't know of any mass shooting where automatic weapons have been used.
As far a limiting magazine capacity, first of all, I feel that I should be able to have the same number of rounds as the criminals. and since they are not going to obey the law, how can I be sure that we are on equal footing if you limit my capacity? All that would happen by limiting magazine capacity is that, even if they obeyed the law, anyone intent on doing a mass shooting, would have to do would be carry multiple magazines which take a second or so to change out. Or multiple weapons can easily be concealed and carried. A person with a pair of cargo shorts could easily carry ten handguns, each with a capacity of 15 rounds and at least ten additional magazines.
So explain to me how limiting the number of rounds a law abiding gun owner with a permit is going to help anything?
And what does deer hunting have to do with anything? The intent of the 2nd amendment is that we are able to defend ourselves. All gun laws do is to take away or limit the ability of law abiding citizens to do just that. Criminals don't obey the laws. I do, even when it puts me at a disadvantage.
cologal
05-06-2017, 10:38 AM
Automatic weapons are banned in this country unless you obtain an extremely difficult to get and expensive permit. Even then the restrictions place on them are huge. I don't know of any mass shooting where automatic weapons have been used.
As far a limiting magazine capacity, first of all, I feel that I should be able to have the same number of rounds as the criminals. and since they are not going to obey the law, how can I be sure that we are on equal footing if you limit my capacity? All that would happen by limiting magazine capacity is that, even if they obeyed the law, anyone intent on doing a mass shooting, would have to do would be carry multiple magazines which take a second or so to change out. Or multiple weapons can easily be concealed and carried. A person with a pair of cargo shorts could easily carry ten handguns, each with a capacity of 15 rounds and at least ten additional magazines.
So explain to me how limiting the number of rounds a law abiding gun owner with a permit is going to help anything?
And what does deer hunting have to do with anything? The intent of the 2nd amendment is that we are able to defend ourselves. All gun laws do is to take away or limit the ability of law abiding citizens to do just that. Criminals don't obey the laws. I do, even when it puts me at a disadvantage.
Perhaps you missed these mass shooting, one gf which occurred <1hr away from here!
Assault rifles are becoming mass shooters’ weapon of choice - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/12/the-gun-used-in-the-orlando-shooting-is-becoming-mass-shooters-weapon-of-choice/?utm_term=.e9efcd87f7bb)
The Newtown school shooter was a "legal" gun owner until he open up the gun case in his house, killed his mother and then went to the school and killed all those kids.
You should know that the NRA always uses the "hunter" argument in response to any kind of gun control law.
I have explained things to you now you explain how limiting the number of bullets in a magazine will take away your 2nd amendment right as you still would have a gun and bullet to defend yourself!
If a criminal in shorts carried that many guns and ammo in his pants we would be seeing something that shouldn't be out in the light of day.
You have the right to bear arms that is a given. What I don't understand why we can impose speeding limits on our highways but we can't limit anything around guns.
Do you know how many women are killed each year by a man with a gun. We saw this here in The Villages a couple of years ago.
MDLNB
05-06-2017, 10:48 AM
Perhaps you missed these mass shooting, one gf which occurred <1hr away from here!
Assault rifles are becoming mass shooters’ weapon of choice - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/12/the-gun-used-in-the-orlando-shooting-is-becoming-mass-shooters-weapon-of-choice/?utm_term=.e9efcd87f7bb)
The Newtown school shooter was a "legal" gun owner until he open up the gun case in his house, killed his mother and then went to the school and killed all those kids.
You should know that the NRA always uses the "hunter" argument in response to any kind of gun control law.
I have explained things to you now you explain how limiting the number of bullets in a magazine will take away your 2nd amendment right as you still would have a gun and bullet to defend yourself!
If a criminal in shorts carried that many guns and ammo in his pants we would be seeing something that shouldn't be out in the light of day.
You have the right to bear arms that is a given. What I don't understand why we can impose speeding limits on our highways but we can't limit anything around guns.
Do you know how many women are killed each year by a man with a gun. We save this here in The Villages a couple of years ago.
That weapon was NOT considered an "assault rifle." An assault rifle is one that shoots automatically, by producing multiple shots per one single finger squeeze of the trigger. If the rifle is not bolt action or lever action, it will most likely be semiautomatic. Even shotguns are semiautomatic. Any weapon that provides multiple shots per trigger squeeze is owned legally ONLY if a special Federal permit is obtained. Yes, some drug gangs in the cities own ILLEGALLY obtained automatic weapons. Key word "illegal."
Chi-Town
05-06-2017, 03:25 PM
What an airhead. As Jerry Clower used to say, some people are educated beyond their intelligence.
Lbud never heard of your quoted source but found his picture on Wikipedia. I can see why you would like him.
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dirtbanker
05-06-2017, 03:51 PM
Lbud never heard of your quoted source but found his picture on Wikipedia. I can see why you would like him.
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Funny guy. My dad used to listen to that stuff when we were driving long distances. I enjoy the "coon hunt" story and the "Ole mule" story.
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cologal
05-06-2017, 03:51 PM
That weapon was NOT considered an "assault rifle." An assault rifle is one that shoots automatically, by producing multiple shots per one single finger squeeze of the trigger. If the rifle is not bolt action or lever action, it will most likely be semiautomatic. Even shotguns are semiautomatic. Any weapon that provides multiple shots per trigger squeeze is owned legally ONLY if a special Federal permit is obtained. Yes, some drug gangs in the cities own ILLEGALLY obtained automatic weapons. Key word "illegal."
The gun the Orlando shooter used was a Sig Sauer MCX, not an AR-15. That doesn’t change much. - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/14/the-gun-the-orlando-shooter-used-was-not-an-ar-15-that-doesnt-change-much/?utm_term=.fc67e6851ea3)
He got off 202 rounds.....
MDLNB
05-07-2017, 05:14 AM
The gun the Orlando shooter used was a Sig Sauer MCX, not an AR-15. That doesn’t change much. - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/06/14/the-gun-the-orlando-shooter-used-was-not-an-ar-15-that-doesnt-change-much/?utm_term=.fc67e6851ea3)
He got off 202 rounds.....
So???
I can do the same thing with a Ruger 10/22 using large capacity mags for an easy reloading. The fact that anyone can get off 202 rounds/shots, justifies the idea of more citizens carrying concealed. If only one person was CCW in the crowd, the guy may have been reduced to a hand full of shots.
larbud
05-07-2017, 06:18 AM
Lbud never heard of your quoted source but found his picture on Wikipedia. I can see why you would like him.
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There's that smarmy libturd air of superiority stinking up the room again...
Urban Dictionary: smarmy
A certain attitude often accompanied by a squinty look and a superior smile that makes you instantly hate a person. Similar to snobby.
The adjective smarmy appeared in the early 20th century. At first meaning "insincerely flattering" or "smug," it later took on an additional meaning: "sleazy."
dirtbanker
05-07-2017, 09:26 AM
Perhaps you missed these mass shooting, one gf which occurred <1hr away from here!
Assault rifles are becoming mass shooters’ weapon of choice - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/wonk/wp/2016/06/12/the-gun-used-in-the-orlando-shooting-is-becoming-mass-shooters-weapon-of-choice/?utm_term=.e9efcd87f7bb)
The Newtown school shooter was a "legal" gun owner until he open up the gun case in his house, killed his mother and then went to the school and killed all those kids..
Nope. The nut job, Adam Lanza, was not a legal gun owner...his mother was a legal gun owner, and she was reckless to allow him to have access to the guns(he had a development disorder).
You should know that the NRA always uses the "hunter" argument in response to any kind of gun control law..
You need to visit the NRA website a little more often. They have plenty of information explaining gun ownership and safety, they have more than the "hunter argument".
NRA Explore | Women's Interests (https://explore.nra.org/interests/womens-interests/)
I have explained things to you now you explain how limiting the number of bullets in a magazine will take away your 2nd amendment right as you still would have a gun and bullet to defend yourself! .
Reducing the number of rounds in a magazine, will not reduce the gun violence. Take Adam Lanza's first victim, his mother, was shot 4 times in the head with a bolt action rifle. The Savage MKii magazine is only 10 rounds. She was most likely dead with the first round and he just put 3 more in her due to emotional "over kill". Another thing to consider; there are many areas in the country that already restrict the magazine size, I challenge you to prove those places are any safer than places that do not have the limit (Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, DC).
If a criminal in shorts carried that many guns and ammo in his pants we would be seeing something that shouldn't be out in the light of day..
Huh, Is this a weenie joke?
You have the right to bear arms that is a given. What I don't understand why we can impose speeding limits on our highways but we can't limit anything around guns.. There are plenty of restrictions for firearms. The person has to be registered in the state (that process is supposed to eliminate the nut jobs trying to legally own firearms). There is a process of documentation for purchasing the firearm, there is a waiting period to reduce the chance someone is purchasing with emotional plans to do harm to someone else...
Do you know how many women are killed each year by a man with a gun. We saw this here in The Villages a couple of years ago.
1600 a year?
Will taking guns away from everyone reduce the number of woman killed by spouse, ex spouse, or other males in their life...No. They are going to stab her, strangle her, run her over with the car, push her off a cliff on vacation...
Don Baldwin
05-07-2017, 09:38 AM
Nope. The nut job, Adam Lanza, was not a legal gun owner...his mother was a legal gun owner, and she was reckless to allow him to have access to the guns(he had a development disorder).
You need to visit the NRA website a little more often. They have plenty of information explaining gun ownership and safety, they have more than the "hunter argument".
NRA Explore | Women's Interests (https://explore.nra.org/interests/womens-interests/)
Reducing the number of rounds in a magazine, will not reduce the gun violence. Take Adam Lanza's first victim, his mother, was shot 4 times in the head with a bolt action rifle. The Savage MKii magazine is only 10 rounds. She was most likely dead with the first round and he just put 3 more in her due to emotional "over kill". Another thing to consider; there are many areas in the country that already restrict the magazine size, I challenge you to prove those places are any safer than places that do not have the limit (Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, DC).
Huh, Is this a weenie joke?
There are plenty of restrictions for firearms. The person has to be registered in the state (that process is supposed to eliminate the nut jobs trying to legally own firearms). There is a process of documentation for purchasing the firearm, there is a waiting period to reduce the chance someone is purchasing with emotional plans to do harm to someone else...
1600 a year?
Will taking guns away from everyone reduce the number of woman killed by spouse, ex spouse, or other males in their life...No. They are going to stab her, strangle her, run her over with the car, push her off a cliff on vacation...
Gun violence...MOST violence...is a black/Hispanics problem. It's THEM...THEY are the problem. With OR without guns.
MDLNB
05-07-2017, 09:52 AM
Copuff,
Laws pertaining to driving?
Ok, even though the car is the example you wish to use, we can make a comparison.
You can't speed on the highway, but you can speed at the race track.
You can't shoot within the city but you can shoot at the range.
You can't drink and drive.
You can't drink and carry.
You have to have a permit to drive.
You have to have a permit to carry.
You have to be a certain age to drive.
You have to be a certain age to carry.
You cannot threaten people with your car.
You cannot threaten people with your gun.
There is no limit to the fuel you may carry.
Why should there be a limit to how much ammo you can load?
There is no law limiting the speed a car could operate (limited only by the speed limit of the road).
Why should there be a limit to how fast a gun can fire a round under the law?
Don Baldwin
05-07-2017, 12:21 PM
Copuff,
Laws pertaining to driving?
Ok, even though the car is the example you wish to use, we can make a comparison.
You can't speed on the highway, but you can speed at the race track.
You can't shoot within the city but you can shoot at the range.
You can't drink and drive.
You can't drink and carry.
You have to have a permit to drive.
You have to have a permit to carry.
You have to be a certain age to drive.
You have to be a certain age to carry.
You cannot threaten people with your car.
You cannot threaten people with your gun.
There is no limit to the fuel you may carry.
Why should there be a limit to how much ammo you can load?
There is no law limiting the speed a car could operate (limited only by the speed limit of the road).
Why should there be a limit to how fast a gun can fire a round under the law?
The point they ALL miss is that the Amendment was put there..."An organized militia, the right to bear ARMS, shall NOT be infringed"...is to keep the GOVERNMENT afraid of the people and not the other way around. WE were supposed to be the Army. Our "rulers" should FEAR what we will do should they "screw us". And screw us they have...to the tune of $20 trillion and a $ trillion a year. Going into their pockets. They've made the public impotent.
MDLNB
05-07-2017, 03:10 PM
The point they ALL miss is that the Amendment was put there..."An organized militia, the right to bear ARMS, shall NOT be infringed"...is to keep the GOVERNMENT afraid of the people and not the other way around. WE were supposed to be the Army. Our "rulers" should FEAR what we will do should they "screw us". And screw us they have...to the tune of $20 trillion and a $ trillion a year. Going into their pockets. They've made the public impotent.
It's not totally their fault. The half of the country that pays no taxes vote to decide how much the other half should pay with their taxes and how it should be redistributed. The voter does not get off the hook of responsibility.
cologal
05-07-2017, 03:25 PM
Why don't you educate yourself on the subject of guns before making such ludicrous comments?
The second amendment is NOT about hunting. Although, hunting with a weapon is protected by the second amendment.
Automatic weapons are illegal unless a special federal license is obtained. If you know of any murders perpetrated by automatic weapons, then they were illegally obtained. Limiting the amount of ammo in a magazine hardly makes a difference in murder. Mass shootings are an exception and not a norm, so making laws that hinder gun ownership is not much difference than attempting to change the laws to the weight and material of an auto that might be used in a mass murder by auto.
There are millions of guns in America. There will always be a few crazies living among over 300 million in our population.
We have common sense gun laws. Dealers are required to submit a background check. Training is required in most states before issuing a concealed carry permit. No guns in bars, gov buildings and public schools, etc. All they have to do is enforce the existing laws.
Just like immigration laws. You can have all the protection of the laws on paper you want, but if you don't enforce them, then the people become victims.
Look you and I are on different tracks.... I did acknowledge you have the right to bear arms and I meant that. I have been civil no reason to attack.
Why don't you take a look at the number of women killed by men? In the case of murder suicide do women kill the husband or is, in most cases the other way around?
I have heard that enforce the current law before so what are you talking about....
cologal
05-07-2017, 03:42 PM
Copuff,
Laws pertaining to driving?
Ok, even though the car is the example you wish to use, we can make a comparison.
You can't speed on the highway, but you can speed at the race track.
You can't shoot within the city but you can shoot at the range.
You can't drink and drive.
You can't drink and carry.
You have to have a permit to drive.
You have to have a permit to carry.
You have to be a certain age to drive.
You have to be a certain age to carry.
You cannot threaten people with your car.
You cannot threaten people with your gun.
There is no limit to the fuel you may carry.
Why should there be a limit to how much ammo you can load?
There is no law limiting the speed a car could operate (limited only by the speed limit of the road).
Why should there be a limit to how fast a gun can fire a round under the law?
I was threatened by a white male with a gun!
Colorado is an open carry state now and shortly after that a women in Colorado Springs called 911 to report a man walking around carrying a gun. The 911 operator told her that was legal now. A few minutes later 4 people were dead including the shooter.
A couple of days later a man walked into Planned Parenthood shot the place up leaving 3 dead including a police officer!
I know many of us are worried about the number of shooting deaths in the United States. I am worried about the amount of gun violence against women! Here in The Villages we had a Murder Suicide by a Husband against his wife.
We have a right to be worried given the amount of gun violence.
cologal
05-07-2017, 04:24 PM
Nope. The nut job, Adam Lanza, was not a legal gun owner...his mother was a legal gun owner, and she was reckless to allow him to have access to the guns(he had a development disorder).
You need to visit the NRA website a little more often. They have plenty of information explaining gun ownership and safety, they have more than the "hunter argument".
NRA Explore | Women's Interests (https://explore.nra.org/interests/womens-interests/)
Reducing the number of rounds in a magazine, will not reduce the gun violence. Take Adam Lanza's first victim, his mother, was shot 4 times in the head with a bolt action rifle. The Savage MKii magazine is only 10 rounds. She was most likely dead with the first round and he just put 3 more in her due to emotional "over kill". Another thing to consider; there are many areas in the country that already restrict the magazine size, I challenge you to prove those places are any safer than places that do not have the limit (Los Angeles, New York, Chicago, DC).
Huh, Is this a weenie joke?
There are plenty of restrictions for firearms. The person has to be registered in the state (that process is supposed to eliminate the nut jobs trying to legally own firearms). There is a process of documentation for purchasing the firearm, there is a waiting period to reduce the chance someone is purchasing with emotional plans to do harm to someone else...
1600 a year?
Will taking guns away from everyone reduce the number of woman killed by spouse, ex spouse, or other males in their life...No. They are going to stab her, strangle her, run her over with the car, push her off a cliff on vacation...
Is this a weenie joke? You bet its a weenie joke!
There are still problems with restrictions as mentally ill people still get guns, for example, the wack job that shot up the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood and killed 3 which is about 1.5 miles from my house out there. He is NUTS and he had gun. After an investigation the gun he had was NOT legally obtained. Did he get it from a gun show?
You are probably right about the wife killing thing as in Colorado we have already had the POT MADE ME DO IT DEFENSE It failed
Here is a link to one article on the subject:
An American Woman Is Fatally Shot by a Romantic Partner Every 16 Hours (https://www.thetrace.org/2016/02/woman-shot-killed-frequency-domestic-violence/)
dirtbanker
05-07-2017, 07:45 PM
There are still problems with restrictions as mentally ill people still get guns, for example, the wack job that shot up the Colorado Springs Planned Parenthood and killed 3 which is about 1.5 miles from my house out there. He is NUTS and he had gun. After an investigation the gun he had was NOT legally obtained. Did he get it from a gun show?
I am unaware of any law that would prevent him from committing violence...other than if your a nut job you are locked up.
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Don Baldwin
05-07-2017, 07:59 PM
It's not totally their fault. The half of the country that pays no taxes vote to decide how much the other half should pay with their taxes and how it should be redistributed. The voter does not get off the hook of responsibility.
The SMART lawmakers make the twisted, one sided, thieving, corrupt laws that they voted for. I blame the politicians.
WHAT "choice" do we really have? The D party puts their "bought and paid for" guy up there...the R party puts their "bought and paid for" guy up there...what CHOICE do we have? EVERY time it the choice between the LESSER EVIL.
The ONLY fault with the public is voting for a D or an R...the rest...the looting of the treasury...that happens automatically. They vote that way because the system pushed them into thinking it's the ONLY viable choice.
I was threatened by a white male with a gun!
Colorado is an open carry state now and shortly after that a women in Colorado Springs called 911 to report a man walking around carrying a gun. The 911 operator told her that was legal now. A few minutes later 4 people were dead including the shooter.
A couple of days later a man walked into Planned Parenthood shot the place up leaving 3 dead including a police officer!
I know many of us are worried about the number of shooting deaths in the United States. I am worried about the amount of gun violence against women! Here in The Villages we had a Murder Suicide by a Husband against his wife.
We have a right to be worried given the amount of gun violence.
Everything you wrote about...is a drop in the bucket compared to the violence committed by the minorities...fully 80% of ALL violence...including against women...is committed by MINORITIES. Blacks and Hispanics commit 80% of crime.
You worry about the wrong people. Do you think you're safer in a planned parenthood office or MLK Blvd? You're safer ANYWHERE than you are on MLK Blvd.
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