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ColdNoMore
05-10-2017, 04:42 PM
The pure ignorance, narcissism and arrogance of Chump to think he can squelch and make the investigation into Russia's involvement in the election go away...is beyond the pale. :oops:


Now let's see if there are more than a couple Republican politicians with integrity and honor, who are capable of putting the welfare of this nation...ahead of party politics. :ohdear:


It should be interesting. :popcorn:

Rockyrd
05-10-2017, 06:00 PM
The pure ignorance, narcissism and arrogance of Chump to think he can squelch and make the investigation into Russia's involvement in the election go away...is beyond the pale. :oops:


Now let's see if there are more than a couple Republican politicians with integrity and honor, who are capable of putting the welfare of this nation...ahead of party politics. :ohdear:


It should be interesting. :popcorn:

I have no idea what happened during the election, BUT Russia sure embarrassed the USA with the assistance of our vey own White House....

First, the Foreign Minister of Russia, arms locked with Sec Tilleson makes a sarcastic joke about our FBI head being fired while Tillison snickered, and then..

We find out that our President shut down the USA press but allowed Putin own photographer to witness the meeting (WH photographer later) and the Russian press had the opportunity to roll out the story and pics of our beaming President arm in arm with the Forein minister of Russia to the world. Such meeting taking place in our capital, in our WH..

Russia was elated today.

Remember when a bow got our attention and hate.

Dr Winston O Boogie jr
05-10-2017, 06:33 PM
How many more witnesses and investigators have to say that there is no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and
Russia before this ends.

It's all nothing more than politics on the part of the democrats.

And now that the president has fired a guy that the dems were screaming should be fired, they are outraged. It is all so predictable and ridiculous.

Rockyrd
05-10-2017, 06:42 PM
How many more witnesses and investigators have to say that there is no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and
Russia before this ends.

It's all nothing more than politics on the part of the democrats.

And now that the president has fired a guy that the dems were screaming should be fired, they are outraged. It is all so predictable and ridiculous.

What witnesses specifically ? Do you have access that nobody else has ?

So, you just do not care if or what happened ? You do not care to have this looked into ?

This is just a lark....
Screw the country...we do not care what happened.

I have no idea what happened, NOR DO YOU, difference is I want to know what happened when Russia invaded our systems. I want to know if anyone was complicit with thevRussian"

You obviously don't give a sh$$ what happened. Our priorities are just different. I could care less about any of the things you care about before my country.

ColdNoMore
05-10-2017, 07:02 PM
How many more witnesses and investigators have to say that there is no evidence of collusion between the Trump campaign and
Russia before this ends.

It's all nothing more than politics on the part of the democrats.

And now that the president has fired a guy that the dems were screaming should be fired, they are outraged. It is all so predictable and ridiculous.

Are you really serious? :22yikes:

So you are one of those that don't believe the mounting evidence that there was not only interference by Russia in our election, but that at the minimum Trump associates (and possibly Trump himself)...were part of it?

And how do you slough off the fact that there have been credible reports that Comey was asking for more resources for the investigation, a very good indication that more leads & info...are turning up daily?


https://www.wsj.com/articles/james-comey-had-requested-more-money-for-fbi-s-russia-investigation-before-being-fired-u-s-official-1494***061?mod=trending_now_3

Former Federal Bureau of Investigation Director James Comey asked the Justice Department last week for more resources for the agency's investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election, a U.S. official said Wednesday.

The request, a week before President Donald Trump fired Mr. Comey, adds to questions about the motives behind Mr. Comey's dismissal.

Or are you really dumb enough to believe (I know there are definitely some others here who are :D ), that Comey being fired almost immediately after asking for more resources...was just purely coincidental? :loco:


Recognizing by your post in another thread about how you supposedly ate at Crispers and didn't like their pizza (even though they don't make pizza :oops:), that you share a lack of honesty and credibility with your Demigod and sometimes just need to say something even if it's not true...tell us why you aren't patriotic enough to want the truth about what happened during the last election?

Real patriots will wait for your wriggling and obfuscation. :popcorn:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

rubicon
05-11-2017, 04:34 AM
Does anyone really believe the histronics staged by Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, et al? Does anyone really believe their behavior is good for America? ( both rhetorical questions)

Schumer is outraged and concerned about the timing of Comey's firing. How do people like this do it all with a straight face.

Trump Derangement syndrome sure has funny side affects

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd
05-11-2017, 06:36 AM
Does anyone really believe the histronics staged by Chuck Schumer, Nancy Pelosi, et al? Does anyone really believe their behavior is good for America? ( both rhetorical questions)

Schumer is outraged and concerned about the timing of Comey's firing. How do people like this do it all with a straight face.

Trump Derangement syndrome sure has funny side affects

Personal Best Regards:

I find this post to reek.

It, and you are the most offensive of people.

Make America great my a$$

You and yours lack the gene of even common sense, and it has nothing to do with your party affiliation or whether you are conservative, liberal or progressive.

I call you out as a very very unpatriotic, unamerican person (cannot refer to you as man)

We all have ideology, but most Americans can smell no matter that ideology.

You lack of emotion concerning the victory by Russia yesterday (Trump was warned about allowing their photo equip in the WH! But he promised Putin) is duly noted, and those you hate so much on the left are moving to a huge power grab in 2018

Don Baldwin
05-11-2017, 12:10 PM
Listen...

IF Trump was so beholden to the Russians, if he was getting ALL his loans from there because no American bank would touch him...WHERE are his tax returns? Where IS the evidence? SOMEONE in the IRS would have grabbed them and released them. Either his personal returns or his business returns would have page after page of Russian banks he's paying interest to.

I haven't seen anything...have you? Not ONE form from anywhere showing Russian bank loans to Trump. If they're there...with the rabidity of the Democrats to get rid of him...we'd have seen it.

This is a lot like the Obama birther thing...there never was a "wet ink" birth certificate, just a computer print out. Show us the proof.

MAYBE he DID fire these people because they ARE against the sitting president and they persist on looking for ANYTHING against him? I'd fire them too.

Rockyrd
05-11-2017, 12:42 PM
Listen...

IF Trump was so beholden to the Russians, if he was getting ALL his loans from there because no American bank would touch him...WHERE are his tax returns? Where IS the evidence? SOMEONE in the IRS would have grabbed them and released them. Either his personal returns or his business returns would have page after page of Russian banks he's paying interest to.

I haven't seen anything...have you? Not ONE form from anywhere showing Russian bank loans to Trump. If they're there...with the rabidity of the Democrats to get rid of him...we'd have seen it.

This is a lot like the Obama birther thing...there never was a "wet ink" birth certificate, just a computer print out. Show us the proof.

MAYBE he DID fire these people because they ARE against the sitting president and they persist on looking for ANYTHING against him? I'd fire them too.

I doubt you will read any of this....that is exactly and precisely what Trump counts on from you folks.....trust me...Trump has been dirty his entire life. This may help explain the scope of this investigation that the President thinks is a waste.

Here is what flies in the face of your "logic".

The committe he fears is NOT...NOT N\investigating HIM, and have never said such a thing. HE is the only person who says that.

This began as an investigation into Russia interfering with our election and enough evidence was gained to take it to investigating ties that are there between the Trump CAMPAIGN and Russian interference.

NO ONE....NOBODY has ever made an accusation against him. HE, on the other hand makes it all about him.

This is why so many are so upset. WHY would not the President of the United States want this investigation to continue ? WHY would the President of the United States try to stop this investigation ?

Lets talk about "loans" as you call them.

"The Senate panel has requested information about President Donald Trump and his top aides from a financial intelligence unit in the Treasury Department that imposed a $10 million civil penalty on Trump Taj Mahal in 2015 for multiple violations of money-laundering laws.

The Senate Intelligence Committee wants to see any information relevant to its Russia investigation the Treasury agency has gathered, including evidence that might include possible money laundering, according to a committee aide who spoke on condition of anonymity. Also at issue: to what extent, if at all, people close to Vladimir Putin have invested in Trump's real estate empire."

http://www.cnbc.com/2017/05/10/russia-probe-senate-requests-documents-from-money-laundering-watchdog-agency.html

IT is not as simple as you think, and to his returns....subpoenas can get them if issued...no need to leak.

Here is another wrinkle....this from a Dutch News site....

"How the Dutch Media is on the paper trail of Trump money laundering in the Netherlands

Cool, calm and collected – everything Donald J. Trump is not, Dutch media are calmly but steadily on the trail of what could best be described as toilet paper hanging from his pants. You can try and deny it but the facts are there, Donny. We look for you at night.

Back in 2009 Barack Obama called the Netherlands a tax haven, together with places like the Cayman Islands, and struck the Dutch right in our tiny, little sensitive hearts. But was he wrong? Well, there’s some nuance to it, but the country is earning some sweet pocket money for this side gig. But it appears that the Netherlands’ banking system may actually have one little gem in store for former president Obama and a total nightmare for “President 45”.

You see, Trump used to be a “successful” businessman – given you ignore all the bankruptcies and lawsuits – and did many investments through a company called Bayrock. Guess where this Pokémon-sounding investment company is headquartered? Tax Haven Holland!
Oh, and ZEMBLA has all the little receipts – it’s pure money laundering, by setting up in the Netherlands in 2007, it laundered $1,5 million dollars. And the company is in hot water already, the State of New York is doing investigations into their tax fraud, large scale tax fraud – and Donald is a key figure. According to attorney F. Oberlander – prosecuting on behalf of New York State – the maximum jail term could be as long as 30 years! But it doesn’t end there! There’s more! This was just the appetizer!

Now we’re heading for the steak – Trump, and Bayrock, have been working closely with some third parties, namely the Georgian-born Tamir Sapir and Kazakhstani Tevfik Ari and formed a new joint company Bayrock/Sapir Organization, LLC. Guess what? That company has been accused of grand scale fraud. Oh, and guess what else? That company was the developer behind Trump SoHo, the hotel condiminium Trump bought into for nearly 20% back in 2005. Soviet/Russian-ties confirmed. Nice.

But it keeps getting better, this is the proverbial ketchup on the steak. Remember Rudy Giulliani? Sure you do, top lawyer, former mayor of New York and current advisor to the Trump Administration. Well guess what the legal company backing Trump’s Bayrock is called? Bracewell & Giulliani…
And guess what else? ZEMBLA has access to the communications between Bracewell & Giulliani and several dark figures in the former USSR. And I really do mean dark – people that embezzled hundreds of millions, people that were fugitives and had fraudulent government roles supporting controversial regimes. These people have worked with, and are directly tied to, Donald J. Trump."

Trump money laundering in the Netherlands: Paper trail could be the end - DutchReview (https://dutchreview.com/news/international-news/trump-money-laundering-in-the-netherlands/)

So you see this is complicated and takes time. Trump knows what he did or did not do. If nothing, let them continue and then say.....see I told you...but it is complicated. He has been dirty his entire life

This is from todays news....

"A web of agencies and committees is investigating Moscow’s interference in the 2016 presidential election—and any possible ties to the Trump campaign."

Good reading and you may understand why according to some sources, Trump is in a panic because they are getting close.

This is complicated and will not end soon, because the WH keeps sticking their nose in.....see Nunez....see his total and complete anger at Comey for not supporting his claim of being bugged.

ColdNoMore
05-11-2017, 01:22 PM
Listen...

IF Trump was so beholden to the Russians, if he was getting ALL his loans from there because no American bank would touch him...WHERE are his tax returns? Where IS the evidence? SOMEONE in the IRS would have grabbed them and released them. Either his personal returns or his business returns would have page after page of Russian banks he's paying interest to.

I haven't seen anything...have you? Not ONE form from anywhere showing Russian bank loans to Trump. If they're there...with the rabidity of the Democrats to get rid of him...we'd have seen it.

This is a lot like the Obama birther thing...there never was a "wet ink" birth certificate, just a computer print out. Show us the proof.

MAYBE he DID fire these people because they ARE against the sitting president and they persist on looking for ANYTHING against him? I'd fire them too.

Besides being a soulless racist...you are truly ignorant. :oops:

1. Great question on where is Chumps tax return. Why is he quaking in his shoes to release them?

2. The IRS DOES NOT care where someone gets their loans...they simply ensure that the loans are in fact properly documented.

3. Asserting something must not exist, simply because 'someone' has not 'yet leaked' parts of Chump's IRS audit...is beyond asinine.


To say that all is hunky-dory because the IRS has not leaked anything contrary, is quite frankly...massively ignorant and stupid. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

billethkid
05-11-2017, 02:00 PM
The double standard two faced hypocrisy is actually some what alarming.

I am completely amused to the point of laughter when some plead the case of how can we over look such evidence, etc.

Are these the same folks who ignored any and all evidence of wrong doing by Obama? Clinton? Rice? Holder? Lynch?

Really?

:1rotfl::1rotfl:

Cedwards38
05-11-2017, 02:30 PM
The Russia/Trump Investigation does not end until:

(1) We hear from former National Security Advisor Gen. Michael Flynn
(2) We hear from former Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort
(3) We hear from former Trump advisor Carter Page
(4) We hear from former Trump advisor Roger Stone
(5) We hear from former FBI Director James Comey
(6) We see complete Trump tax returns
(7) We know the information used to produce the Steele Report and hear from Christopher Steele
(8) We hear from investigators who dig into cyber security of our election process
(9) We hear from FBI investigators on any peripheral information uncovered by the investigation
(10) We hear from others implicated by the investigation, including possibly the POTUS

And by "We," I mean the Senate Intelligence Committee and the information they receive made public to the American people. I don't care if you are a Republican or a Democrat, a Trump supporter or anti-Trump, this is important and these things have to happen. If the President is innocent, then he has nothing to fear.

Rockyrd
05-11-2017, 02:42 PM
The Russia/Trump Investigation does not end until:

(1) We hear from former National Security Advisor Gen. Michael Flynn
(2) We hear from former Trump Campaign Chairman Paul Manafort
(3) We hear from former Trump advisor Carter Page
(4) We hear from former Trump advisor Roger Stone
(5) We hear from former FBI Director James Comey
(6) We see complete Trump tax returns
(7) We know the information used to produce the Steele Report and hear from Christopher Steele
(8) We hear from investigators who dig into cyber security of our election process
(9) We hear from FBI investigators on any peripheral information uncovered by the investigation
(10) We hear from others implicated by the investigation, including possibly the POTUS

And by "We," I mean the Senate Intelligence Committee and the information they receive made public to the American people. I don't care if you are a Republican or a Democrat, a Trump supporter or anti-Trump, this is important and these things have to happen. If the President is innocent, then he has nothing to fear.

I agree with you, and add from morning news, Trumps background laundering money for Russia through casino which is now being pursued.

I am struck by so called Americans who do not want this investigation to continue. Their motivation is not our country

ColdNoMore
05-11-2017, 02:55 PM
I agree with you, and add from morning news, Trumps background laundering money for Russia through casino which is now being pursued.

I am struck by so called Americans who do not want this investigation to continue. Their motivation is not our country

Alas, I truly wished your last statement weren't true, but all too many Trump Cultists are proving that for a significant portion of our citizenry...it IS becoming our country. :ohdear:

rubicon
05-11-2017, 03:11 PM
I had to fire a guy and he did his level best to convince everyone that I was wrong and a rotten.......................................

Well all I had to do to solve that falsehood was to evenly assign this fire employees workload to the remaining staff. One look at his work product immediately cleared up any defamation to my character.

So too with James Comey. Rosenten's memo made clear that Comey violated numerous standards of federal prosecutorial procedures and lines of authority within the Department of Justice and hisl wrongful behaviors are certainly known to all on this board as said behaviors have been in the news for months

in the meantime the people's work sits idle while progressives continue their irresponsible and unproductive rage against all things Trump

Personal Best Regards:

Rockyrd
05-11-2017, 03:21 PM
I had to fire a guy and he did his level best to convince everyone that I was wrong and a rotten.......................................

Well all I had to do to solve that falsehood was to evenly assign this fire employees workload to the remaining staff. One look at his work product immediately cleared up any defamation to my character.

So too with James Comey. Rosenten's memo made clear that Comey violated numerous standards of federal prosecutorial procedures and lines of authority within the Department of Justice and hisl wrongful behaviors are certainly known to all on this board as said behaviors have been in the news for months

in the meantime the people's work sits idle while progressives continue their irresponsible and unproductive rage against all things Trump

Personal Best Regards:

Do you even ever watch news or read news ?

The President himself isn't saying what you claim any longer.

The acting FBI head testified the opposite of what you say.

You should make sure which lie is active before you post..

MDLNB
05-11-2017, 03:45 PM
You liberals are more interested in vindication of your election loss than of our country's national security. You are pathetic and boring.

Don Baldwin
05-11-2017, 07:15 PM
Besides being a soulless racist...you are truly ignorant. :oops:

1. Great question on where is Chumps tax return. Why is he quaking in his shoes to release them?

2. The IRS DOES NOT care where someone gets their loans...they simply ensure that the loans are in fact properly documented.

3. Asserting something must not exist, simply because 'someone' has not 'yet leaked' parts of Chump's IRS audit...is beyond asinine.


To say that all is hunky-dory because the IRS has not leaked anything contrary, is quite frankly...massively ignorant and stupid. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

I was just going to ignore you...for you truly are nothing but a little (unt...you're always just plain vile when you reply. Is this your life because nobody will have you?

YES...it's a GREAT question. With ALL the liberals/progressives/Democrats chomping on the bit to get Trump on ANYTHING. Someone at the IRS would have leaked them. Thousands of employees have access to those records. His personal or his various business records would show whom Trump is paying and being paid from. There has been NOTHING.

Like I said...this is like the Obama birther controversy...there are no smoking gun records from ANYONE to PROVE Trump/Russian involvement. Just as there was NO "wet ink" signed Obama birth certificate.

WHERE are the "properly documented" loan papers? If you can't produce it...then does it exist? Same with Obama's birth certificate...the computer generated piece of paper didn't prove a thing.

Assuming it DOES exist without ANY proof/documentation is more than asinine...it's psychotic. Liberalism IS a mental disorder. It's a religion...made up sh!t that people believe with all their heart.

NOBODY outside those involved knows what's really going on. And isn't it BETTER to be friendly with other countries than enemies? Isn't it better to trade with them, have joint business dealings? WHY are they such an enemy? Because in reality...they're freer than we are?

You are being fed propaganda...from both sides.

You liberals are more interested in vindication of your election loss than of our country's national security. You are pathetic and boring.

It's their way or no way...THEY are the Nazis telling everyone else what to think...how to live...who to hire, who to serve, who to live with, who to go to school with, who MUST be in your clubs, what you must eat, how to eat it, how much you can eat...and on and on...

ColdNoMore
05-11-2017, 08:22 PM
I was just going to ignore you...for you truly are nothing but a little (unt...you're always just plain vile when you reply. Is this your life because nobody will have you?

YES...it's a GREAT question. With ALL the liberals/progressives/Democrats chomping on the bit to get Trump on ANYTHING. Someone at the IRS would have leaked them. Thousands of employees have access to those records. His personal or his various business records would show whom Trump is paying and being paid from. There has been NOTHING.

Like I said...this is like the Obama birther controversy...there are no smoking gun records from ANYONE to PROVE Trump/Russian involvement. Just as there was NO "wet ink" signed Obama birth certificate.

WHERE are the "properly documented" loan papers? If you can't produce it...then does it exist? Same with Obama's birth certificate...the computer generated piece of paper didn't prove a thing.

Assuming it DOES exist without ANY proof/documentation is more than asinine...it's psychotic. Liberalism IS a mental disorder. It's a religion...made up sh!t that people believe with all their heart.

NOBODY outside those involved knows what's really going on. And isn't it BETTER to be friendly with other countries than enemies? Isn't it better to trade with them, have joint business dealings? WHY are they such an enemy? Because in reality...they're freer than we are?

You are being fed propaganda...from both sides.

It's their way or no way...THEY are the Nazis telling everyone else what to think...how to live...who to hire, who to serve, who to live with, who to go to school with, who MUST be in your clubs, what you must eat, how to eat it, how much you can eat...and on and on...

And here I thought you couldn't be more disgusting and ignorant, than when you're spewing...your simpleton, misogynist/racist hate. :ohdear:

But, in your attempt at discussing grown up subjects requiring critical thinking and a modicum of intelligence...you're proving that you're even less adept at that. :oops:

My bad. :D



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave: