Russians in the Oval Office

[Warren Kiefer]

Can you believe Trump invited our Russian enemies directly into the most secure offices in America ?? Is he nuts or what !!!?????????

[Taltarzac725]

Can you believe Trump invited our Russian enemies directly into the most secure offices in America ?? Is he nuts or what !!!?????????

Russia’s Oval Office Victory Dance - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-firing-trump-lavrov-putin-215124)

He does not seem to have any vision of what might happen in the future. Or, at least, a concern for it.

[dirtbanker]

Can you believe Trump invited our Russian enemies directly into the most secure offices in America ?? Is he nuts or what !!!?????????

WHATS NEXT ??

Maybe he will invite Chinese, Japanese, Iranian, Somalin, Egyptian, or someone from Jordan!!!

Top 10 Countries that Love the U.S., and the Top 10 that Hate Us (http://www.cnsnews.com/mrctv-blog/barbara-boland/top-10-countries-love-us-and-top-10-hate-us)

[Rockyrd]

Russia’s Oval Office Victory Dance - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/05/10/james-comey-firing-trump-lavrov-putin-215124)

He does not seem to have any vision of what might happen in the future. Or, at least, a concern for it.

Not the invite or the visit that is troubling.

He allowed the Russian government to use our house and him for propoganda.

He was warned not to allow them in with their equipment but he had promised Putin....no USA allowed.

The pic and story was broken by the Russians and the world heard it all from them...grinning Trump arm in arm while his own country knew nothing.

Then the foreign minister actually laughed and was sarcastic on the Comey firing while arm in arm with our Secy of State.

This story and pics were all over the Russian press.

Good day for Putin...he also scored 6 goals in a hockey game

DO YOU RECALL THE OUTRAGE WHEN OBAMA USED LOCAL CUSTOM AND BOWED SLIGHTLY....OH THE OUTRAGE ON THIS FORUM AND IN THE PRESS.

People on this forum were outraged at Obama for that....actually out of control with the admonissions. Obama did his little bow in their country.....Trump made an ass of The USA in OUR WHITE HOUSE. the world is talking a lot about the lying yesterday from our White House...loudly and they join the snickering

[maureenod]

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER STICK TOGETHER" This would have been a good photo for Larbud.

[billethkid]

So he is not performing in accordance to what the past has dictated?

More so he is not performing the way the opposition, whoever and what ever they are, thinks he should.

Then there is the resistance whereby it doesn't matter how he performs they are against it.

Some must like living the fantasy that the folks in power have no idea what they are doing. Be happy in your obsessions.

Trump does not perform to the usual crony political, partisan models and expectations. That is why he was elected.

If some of you folks used the same magnifying glass on Obama for the past 8 years there would would have been just as much BITCHING AND MOANING!

[Rockyrd]

So he is not performing in accordance to what the past has dictated?

More so he is not performing the way the opposition, whoever and what ever they are, thinks he should.

Then there is the resistance whereby it doesn't matter how he performs they are against it.

Some must like living the fantasy that the folks in power have no idea what they are doing. Be happy in your obsessions.

Trump does not perform to the usual crony political, partisan models and expectations. That is why he was elected.

If some of you folks used the same magnifying glass on Obama for the past 8 years there would would have been just as much BITCHING AND MOANING!

So....

Putting your own country second is the philosophy you put aside as he did. We are the laughing stock of the world, in addition to headline news and photos in Russia.

We were mocked by the FM of Russia, made to look like a 3rd world country, again...all for HIM to the denegradation of the USA. Don't believe it...read international press.....we are the ones to laugh at

Listen, if you still buy into that make America great again crap, you are a fool.

[Rockyrd]

iNTERNATIONAL FEELINGS IN GENERAL

"Trump has also taken up an inordinate share of the international news cycle. The tenor of the coverage has been mixed, from the Russian TV host who praised Trump for avoiding the word democracy in his inauguration speech to the German reporter who was hailed as a hero at home for her tough questioning of Trump during a press conference and the Australian newspaper that reopened its Washington bureau to take advantage of the Trump bump.

Media Tenor International, a monitoring firm based in Switzerland, has been tracking Trump coverage in Europe and the US since Trump announced his run. Founder and CEO Roland Schatz says there has been more coverage of Trump in European media than any other US president—most of it negative.

As US media gave Trump a honeymoon, international journalists took aim - Columbia Journalism Review (https://www.cjr.org/covering_trump/trump-journalists-international.php)

INTERNATIONAL SPECIFIC..

"The story had international reverberations as well, in countries ranging from America’s allies to its adversaries, on and off the front pages. In Germany, Der Spiegel, like some U.S. commentators, dubbed the event “The Tuesday Night Massacre,” in reference to former President Richard Nixon’s order to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the Watergate scandal. (That incident was a “massacre” because it resulted in the resignation of the attorney general and his deputy, both of whom refused to carry out the firing on Nixon’s behalf. Tuesday, Comey alone was fired.) The weekly magazine noted that, while the White House denied allegations the move was related to Comey’s role overseeing the investigation into Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, “few believe it.” German tabloid Bild also likened the incident to what happened under Nixon, calling the event “so dramatic.”

In France, the center-left daily Le Monde newspaper dubbed the event Trump’s “coup de force” against the FBI, noting that while the U.S. president’s decision was said to be motivated by Comey’s mismanagement of the case surrounding Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s private emails, “the American press does not believe” it.

In the U.K., the BBC queried whether Comey’s firing could be part of a cover up, noting that “no-one—in Congress, in conservative circles, even in the FBI itself —seemingly had an inkling of what was in store.” An op-ed by Laurence Douglas in the left-leaning Guardian called the firing “a brazen attack on the rule of law,” noting that “even if innocent of collusion, Trump has done something almost as bad—he has undermined investigative independence, a mainstay of rule-based governance.” Writing in the conservative weekly magazine The Spectator, Freddy Gray questioned if the incident warranted its Nixon comparisons. “As usual with Trump, though, it seems impossible to figure out quite what he is up to. If he really wanted to conceal his ties to Russia, why would he do something quite so dramatic? … It seems extremely foolish to draw so much attention, even for this reckless administration, unless of course Trump really does have nothing to hide.”

How International Media Saw James Comey's Firing - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/05/comeys-firing-through-international-headlines/526083/)

Again, making america great again my a$$.....it is all about HIM and nobody else.

[larbud]

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER STICK TOGETHER" This would have been a good photo for Larbud.

Fuc off douchebag������

[ColdNoMore]

"BIRDS OF A FEATHER STICK TOGETHER" This would have been a good photo for Larbud.

:1rotfl: :1rotfl:


Being a third rate photographer...it fits him perfectly. :thumbup:

[larbud]

:1rotfl: :1rotfl:


Being a third rate photographer...it fits him perfectly. :thumbup:

Put your money where your mouth is! Oh sorry, didn't know it was in use...

[dirtbanker]

Oh crap Rockface is back to copy and paste...je is sayong; you have to read this, I have decided.

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[Rockyrd]

Oh crap Rockface is back to copy and paste...je is sayong; you have to read this, I have decided.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk

It speaks well of you two to call yourself patriots, even americans yet you simply can only make simpleton wise cracks.

Either you just do not care about this country....are too lazy to find out what is actually happening.....or have been led astray by the Trump alternate Universe.

I think it is that you just do not care about this country of you would want any investigation completed and know what is happening, and might be interested in the FACTS surrounding that investigation.

I suspect that you two cannot understand what is happening and are so lazy, you wont read about it....so you have no cholce but to kneel at Trumps knees.

Good luck....oh, and

Make america great again my a$$...........going the opposite...we are the laughing stock of the world

[billethkid]

So....

Putting your own country second is the philosophy you put aside as he did. We are the laughing stock of the world, in addition to headline news and photos in Russia.

We were mocked by the FM of Russia, made to look like a 3rd world country, again...all for HIM to the denegradation of the USA. Don't believe it...read international press.....we are the ones to laugh at

Listen, if you still buy into that make America great again crap, you are a fool.

Except for the last sentence you very succinctly describe the Obama era!!!!

[Rockyrd]

Except for the last sentence you very succinctly describe the Obama era!!!!

DETAILS PLEASE on what visit to our White House had the USA press shut out, and only one foreign rep allowed, followed by the only story and picture of such visit to OUR COUBTRY coming from them. In addition, a Non ally.

Also, DETAILS PLEASE on when a FM or any foreign official joined arms with our Secy of State and had some fun with a firing by the President ?

You pick the administration...Obama or ANY administration ever

[larbud]

You'll just can't stand having a pres with a set of balls.. Girly man time is over...

[Rockyrd]

You'll just can't stand having a pres with a set of balls.. Girly man time is over...

Your definition of "a set of balls" is different than mine.

Far different.

[ColdNoMore]

You'll just can't stand having a pres with a set of balls.. Girly man time is over...

:1rotfl:


Chump is actually just a narcissistic, megalomaniacal moron. :oops:


Which, of course, speaks volumes about his cultists. :ho:




Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[billethkid]

DETAILS PLEASE on what visit to our White House had the USA press shut out, and only one foreign rep allowed, followed by the only story and picture of such visit to OUR COUBTRY coming from them. In addition, a Non ally.

Also, DETAILS PLEASE on when a FM or any foreign official joined arms with our Secy of State and had some fun with a firing by the President ?

You pick the administration...Obama or ANY administration ever

The comparison does not require a tit for tat counterpoint.
My views are not media/partisan driven.....believe it or not accept it or not.

[Rockyrd]

The comparison does not require a tit for tat counterpoint.
My views are not media/partisan driven.....believe it or not accept it or not.

You can't "tit for tat"......

You made a smart ass remark, and I asked you to put up or shut up.

I felt, and still feel dirty about what Trump allowed...it feels dirty. I felt the same way on a few other situations...in Nam...on 9/11.

You feel fine with this and have only smart ass remarks and you condone these actions. You are fine with the USA being mocked in their own house aided and abetted by our supposedly leader. You should have been involved with the giddy Putin yesrday on the ice rink. He knows how big a deal this is..he knows he is making this country look childish. Why Trump supports it, I don't know, but I know you do.

This happened in our White House, and was not accidental but done purposely, and you condone it.

All you can say is all you ever say...Obama. That black man(and I use that offensive description because you and your pals seem to enjoy that) had more class in his little black finger than Trump could ever muster in his life.

[dirtbanker]

Your definition of "a set of balls" is different than mine.

Far different.
I am guessing you and the (unt have the same definition...



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[billethkid]

You can't "tit for tat"......

You made a smart ass remark, and I asked you to put up or shut up.

I felt, and still feel dirty about what Trump allowed...it feels dirty. I felt the same way on a few other situations...in Nam...on 9/11.

You feel fine with this and have only smart ass remarks and you condone these actions. You are fine with the USA being mocked in their own house aided and abetted by our supposedly leader. You should have been involved with the giddy Putin yesrday on the ice rink. He knows how big a deal this is..he knows he is making this country look childish. Why Trump supports it, I don't know, but I know you do.

This happened in our White House, and was not accidental but done purposely, and you condone it.

All you can say is all you ever say...Obama. That black man(and I use that offensive description because you and your pals seem to enjoy that) had more class in his little black finger than Trump could ever muster in his life.

Let's get calibrated.
Please highlight my "smart a$$ remark(s).

Secondly I have challenged your allegation of my posts making reference to Obama's color...or black this or black that. Which I have never done. So for the sake of credibility direct commentary where appropriate.......of course you could show me one of my non existent black remarks.

Everybody deserves to say their piece....like it or not agree or not.

Usually I ignore the school yard BS until such time as someone states something claiming I said it when I did not. I also respond to those who re-interpret what is said to suit their agenda.

Some of us are very comfortable with the concept of agreeing to disagree. Very many here are not, as demonstrated daily, hourly.

[Rockyrd]

Let's get calibrated.
Please highlight my "smart a$$ remark(s).

Secondly I have challenged your allegation of my posts making reference to Obama's color...or black this or black that. Which I have never done. So for the sake of credibility direct commentary where appropriate.......of course you could show me one of my non existent black remarks.

Everybody deserves to say their piece....like it or not agree or not.

Usually I ignore the school yard BS until such time as someone states something claiming I said it when I did not. I also respond to those who re-interpret what is said to suit their agenda.

Some of us are very comfortable with the concept of agreeing to disagree. Very many here are not, as demonstrated daily, hourly.

Since search on political does not exist, I must back down for now but will call your color comments to your attention.

Listen you continue to talk to those who dislike Trump like we are some kind of idiot. I go well out of my way to give back for almost every single thing I post. Your cronies make fun of me for that, but that is civil discourse.

You use the exact same, and I have pointed this out to you many times so please do not plead ignorance, words in your posts. It is always about Obama or Clinton. I have tried to keep my comments narrowed to PRESENT and not past.

Your responses consistently, and 90% seems right, are always referring to Obama or Clinton. That is Nit discussion of current events?

Then you come on here and try to isolate me as if you were, at anytime, discussing anything.

You cannot possibly have an adult conversation when you are simply saying Obama, Clinton, ALL liberals etc. you cannot respond in threads with total generalizations that are not even closely related to the topic.

I, frankly, am tired of you and another lecturing everyone when you actually run away from topical discussion.

Mention Trump lies and spell them out with credible links and you get a response talking about Obama, Benghazi, whatever. Historical events investigated and over.

Trump is President NOW. You will not discuss his background, his ties to crime (thankfully today they opened the door to his money laundering) his firing of Comey is met with comments on Obama and Clinton. His unfounded accusations about Ibama are either met with silence or a general condemnation of liberals, his coverup today and yesterday which included more lies, are either met with silence or general condemnation of liberals, and I could go on.

A little over 100 days....3 government investigations (not generated by democrats but his actions)....3 fired justice department mployees who were investigating, to you is commonplace. You want to speak of everyone picking on him.

States that shut down his illegal foundation is met with Clinton or Obama.

It goes on, and the worse is that you actually feel superior to us s if you own the forum. I will back up what I say, therefore you can join in on criticizing me for giving too much information, but do not insult me by trying to isolate me with "some of us,....". That is bunk..,you want to spend your time on here dishing Clinton and Obama, and they may even warrant that, but do not ever say you are discussing current events. You guys simply want to bury two people specifically, and millions of others because they are progressive.

You do not look down on me, and until you actually respond like an adult you are simply another troll.

PS..Idid neglect to respond to your asking what was your wise a$$ comment. In reply to my post giving highlights one ONE DAY that the USA was shut out of thevWH, and Russia ran the show, your reply was "Except for the last sentence you very succinctly describe the Obama era!!!!" which is typical...ignore the topic and mention Obama.

[Warren Kiefer]

since search on political does not exist, i must back down for now but will call your color comments to your attention.

Listen you continue to talk to those who dislike trump like we are some kind of idiot. I go well out of my way to give back for almost every single thing i post. Your cronies make fun of me for that, but that is civil discourse.

You use the exact same, and i have pointed this out to you many times so please do not plead ignorance, words in your posts. It is always about obama or clinton. I have tried to keep my comments narrowed to present and not past.

Your responses consistently, and 90% seems right, are always referring to obama or clinton. That is nit discussion of current events?

Then you come on here and try to isolate me as if you were, at anytime, discussing anything.

You cannot possibly have an adult conversation when you are simply saying obama, clinton, all liberals etc. You cannot respond in threads with total generalizations that are not even closely related to the topic.

I, frankly, am tired of you and another lecturing everyone when you actually run away from topical discussion.

Mention trump lies and spell them out with credible links and you get a response talking about obama, benghazi, whatever. Historical events investigated and over.

Trump is president now. You will not discuss his background, his ties to crime (thankfully today they opened the door to his money laundering) his firing of comey is met with comments on obama and clinton. His unfounded accusations about ibama are either met with silence or a general condemnation of liberals, his coverup today and yesterday which included more lies, are either met with silence or general condemnation of liberals, and i could go on.

A little over 100 days....3 government investigations (not generated by democrats but his actions)....3 fired justice department mployees who were investigating, to you is commonplace. You want to speak of everyone picking on him.

States that shut down his illegal foundation is met with clinton or obama.

It goes on, and the worse is that you actually feel superior to us s if you own the forum. I will back up what i say, therefore you can join in on criticizing me for giving too much information, but do not insult me by trying to isolate me with "some of us,....". That is bunk..,you want to spend your time on here dishing clinton and obama, and they may even warrant that, but do not ever say you are discussing current events. You guys simply want to bury two people specifically, and millions of others because they are progressive.

You do not look down on me, and until you actually respond like an adult you are simply another troll.

Ps..idid neglect to respond to your asking what was your wise a$$ comment. In reply to my post giving highlights one one day that the usa was shut out of thevwh, and russia ran the show, your reply was "except for the last sentence you very succinctly describe the obama era!!!!" which is typical...ignore the topic and mention obama.

we have become the most corrupt country in the free world.

[Don Baldwin]

we have become the most corrupt country in the free world.

We're HARDLY free...

WE have MORE rules and regulations than many others.

As far as volume and wealth stolen...we are THE most corrupt country on the planet. I hate to burst your bubble. But this isn't the "America" you grew up with. This is a country where HALF the population could care less...and have more loyalty and love towards their homeland than America. A country where half the population loathes the half that built it. Who maintain it.

"America" is done...replaced by Mexico II...within 30 years.

[MDLNB]

Let's get calibrated.
Please highlight my "smart a$$ remark(s).

Secondly I have challenged your allegation of my posts making reference to Obama's color...or black this or black that. Which I have never done. So for the sake of credibility direct commentary where appropriate.......of course you could show me one of my non existent black remarks.

Everybody deserves to say their piece....like it or not agree or not.

Usually I ignore the school yard BS until such time as someone states something claiming I said it when I did not. I also respond to those who re-interpret what is said to suit their agenda.

Some of us are very comfortable with the concept of agreeing to disagree. Very many here are not, as demonstrated daily, hourly.

:thumbup:

[Warren Kiefer]

since search on political does not exist, i must back down for now but will call your color comments to your attention.

Listen you continue to talk to those who dislike trump like we are some kind of idiot. I go well out of my way to give back for almost every single thing i post. Your cronies make fun of me for that, but that is civil discourse.

You use the exact same, and i have pointed this out to you many times so please do not plead ignorance, words in your posts. It is always about obama or clinton. I have tried to keep my comments narrowed to present and not past.

Your responses consistently, and 90% seems right, are always referring to obama or clinton. That is nit discussion of current events?

Then you come on here and try to isolate me as if you were, at anytime, discussing anything.

You cannot possibly have an adult conversation when you are simply saying obama, clinton, all liberals etc. You cannot respond in threads with total generalizations that are not even closely related to the topic.

I, frankly, am tired of you and another lecturing everyone when you actually run away from topical discussion.

Mention trump lies and spell them out with credible links and you get a response talking about obama, benghazi, whatever. Historical events investigated and over.

Trump is president now. You will not discuss his background, his ties to crime (thankfully today they opened the door to his money laundering) his firing of comey is met with comments on obama and clinton. His unfounded accusations about ibama are either met with silence or a general condemnation of liberals, his coverup today and yesterday which included more lies, are either met with silence or general condemnation of liberals, and i could go on.

A little over 100 days....3 government investigations (not generated by democrats but his actions)....3 fired justice department mployees who were investigating, to you is commonplace. You want to speak of everyone picking on him.

States that shut down his illegal foundation is met with clinton or obama.

It goes on, and the worse is that you actually feel superior to us s if you own the forum. I will back up what i say, therefore you can join in on criticizing me for giving too much information, but do not insult me by trying to isolate me with "some of us,....". That is bunk..,you want to spend your time on here dishing clinton and obama, and they may even warrant that, but do not ever say you are discussing current events. You guys simply want to bury two people specifically, and millions of others because they are progressive.

You do not look down on me, and until you actually respond like an adult you are simply another troll.

Ps..idid neglect to respond to your asking what was your wise a$$ comment. In reply to my post giving highlights one one day that the usa was shut out of thevwh, and russia ran the show, your reply was "except for the last sentence you very succinctly describe the obama era!!!!" which is typical...ignore the topic and mention obama.


o
ur government is totally disfunctional.

[Rockyrd]

o
ur government is totally disfunctional.

You could make a case for that, with the President firing MORE justice dept employees for investigating him than legislation offered, and daily tearing apart our FBI, justice dept and legal system, and lying from the White House.

This is not making america great again...it is not offering change for good....it is not bringing americans together....it is not "draining the swamp"....thus far, as predicted it is ALL about him and him alone.

[Taltarzac725]

You could make a case for that, with the President firing MORE justice dept employees for investigating him than legislation offered, and daily tearing apart our FBI, justice dept and legal system, and lying from the White House.

This is not making america great again...it is not offering change for good....it is not bringing americans together....it is not "draining the swamp"....thus far, as predicted it is ALL about him and him alone.

Henry the VIII very like Donald Trump – just add Twitter and see what you get | afr.com (http://www.afr.com/news/world/us-election/henry-the-viii-very-like-donald-trump--just-add-twitter-and-see-what-you-get-20170312-guwlnn)

Donald John Trump and Henry VIII.

[billethkid]

Since search on political does not exist, I must back down for now but will call your color comments to your attention.

Listen you continue to talk to those who dislike Trump like we are some kind of idiot. I go well out of my way to give back for almost every single thing I post. Your cronies make fun of me for that, but that is civil discourse.

You use the exact same, and I have pointed this out to you many times so please do not plead ignorance, words in your posts. It is always about Obama or Clinton. I have tried to keep my comments narrowed to PRESENT and not past.

Your responses consistently, and 90% seems right, are always referring to Obama or Clinton. That is Nit discussion of current events?

Then you come on here and try to isolate me as if you were, at anytime, discussing anything.

You cannot possibly have an adult conversation when you are simply saying Obama, Clinton, ALL liberals etc. you cannot respond in threads with total generalizations that are not even closely related to the topic.

I, frankly, am tired of you and another lecturing everyone when you actually run away from topical discussion.

Mention Trump lies and spell them out with credible links and you get a response talking about Obama, Benghazi, whatever. Historical events investigated and over.

Trump is President NOW. You will not discuss his background, his ties to crime (thankfully today they opened the door to his money laundering) his firing of Comey is met with comments on Obama and Clinton. His unfounded accusations about Ibama are either met with silence or a general condemnation of liberals, his coverup today and yesterday which included more lies, are either met with silence or general condemnation of liberals, and I could go on.

A little over 100 days....3 government investigations (not generated by democrats but his actions)....3 fired justice department mployees who were investigating, to you is commonplace. You want to speak of everyone picking on him.

States that shut down his illegal foundation is met with Clinton or Obama.

It goes on, and the worse is that you actually feel superior to us s if you own the forum. I will back up what I say, therefore you can join in on criticizing me for giving too much information, but do not insult me by trying to isolate me with "some of us,....". That is bunk..,you want to spend your time on here dishing Clinton and Obama, and they may even warrant that, but do not ever say you are discussing current events. You guys simply want to bury two people specifically, and millions of others because they are progressive.

You do not look down on me, and until you actually respond like an adult you are simply another troll.

PS..Idid neglect to respond to your asking what was your wise a$$ comment. In reply to my post giving highlights one ONE DAY that the USA was shut out of thevWH, and Russia ran the show, your reply was "Except for the last sentence you very succinctly describe the Obama era!!!!" which is typical...ignore the topic and mention Obama.

For ease of following I have highlighted the parts that are purely your view, your opinion and very often BS or you've got the wrong person to take to task.

It is a fair question when I challenge something being said about Trump that would have been ignored by Obama.

If you are looking for go along to get along....I do not subscribe to that. I simply, very simply challenge the double standards used in what is tolerated today vs the past 8 years. That, like it or not is meant to bring perspective....to the CURRENT discussion.

I do not go after you or anybody else personally. I do not refer to anybody's race or religion as alledged in far too many of your posts.

This will be the last post trying to defend my postings, my opinions, my beliefs. I am entitled to mine just as you are to yours.

Enough of this merry go round rhetoric.....for me that is.

[Rockyrd]

For ease of following I have highlighted the parts that are purely your view, your opinion and very often BS or you've got the wrong person to take to task.

It is a fair question when I challenge something being said about Trump that would have been ignored by Obama.

If you are looking for go along to get along....I do not subscribe to that. I simply, very simply challenge the double standards used in what is tolerated today vs the past 8 years. That, like it or not is meant to bring perspective....to the CURRENT discussion.

I do not go after you or anybody else personally. I do not refer to anybody's race or religion as alledged in far too many of your posts.

This will be the last post trying to defend my postings, my opinions, my beliefs. I am entitled to mine just as you are to yours.

Enough of this merry go round rhetoric.....for me that is.

Ok with me.

The only thing you ever say, without any backup except your hate is your speaking of Obama, Clinton, and any person not aligned with YOUR political views. It is old... THAT is not a position.

"In his wildest dreams, Russian leader (and former Soviet intelligence officer) Vladimir Putin could have never imagined the extent of his success during President Donald Trump’s first five months in office.

Trump’s move on Tuesday to terminate FBI Director James Comey puts another huge point on the scoreboard for Putin — especially given the FBI’s lead role in probing possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Trump’s decision to fire Comey is another win for Vladimir Putin - Vox (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/11/15616798/trump-comey-fire-fbi-putin-russia-influence-election)

Someday, perhaps you can offer something on here besides hate for Obama before this thing is all over

[Topspinmo]

iNTERNATIONAL FEELINGS IN GENERAL

"Trump has also taken up an inordinate share of the international news cycle. The tenor of the coverage has been mixed, from the Russian TV host who praised Trump for avoiding the word democracy in his inauguration speech to the German reporter who was hailed as a hero at home for her tough questioning of Trump during a press conference and the Australian newspaper that reopened its Washington bureau to take advantage of the Trump bump.

Media Tenor International, a monitoring firm based in Switzerland, has been tracking Trump coverage in Europe and the US since Trump announced his run. Founder and CEO Roland Schatz says there has been more coverage of Trump in European media than any other US president—most of it negative.

As US media gave Trump a honeymoon, international journalists took aim - Columbia Journalism Review (https://www.cjr.org/covering_trump/trump-journalists-international.php)

INTERNATIONAL SPECIFIC..

"The story had international reverberations as well, in countries ranging from America’s allies to its adversaries, on and off the front pages. In Germany, Der Spiegel, like some U.S. commentators, dubbed the event “The Tuesday Night Massacre,” in reference to former President Richard Nixon’s order to fire special prosecutor Archibald Cox during the Watergate scandal. (That incident was a “massacre” because it resulted in the resignation of the attorney general and his deputy, both of whom refused to carry out the firing on Nixon’s behalf. Tuesday, Comey alone was fired.) The weekly magazine noted that, while the White House denied allegations the move was related to Comey’s role overseeing the investigation into Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election, “few believe it.” German tabloid Bild also likened the incident to what happened under Nixon, calling the event “so dramatic.”

In France, the center-left daily Le Monde newspaper dubbed the event Trump’s “coup de force” against the FBI, noting that while the U.S. president’s decision was said to be motivated by Comey’s mismanagement of the case surrounding Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton’s private emails, “the American press does not believe” it.

In the U.K., the BBC queried whether Comey’s firing could be part of a cover up, noting that “no-one—in Congress, in conservative circles, even in the FBI itself —seemingly had an inkling of what was in store.” An op-ed by Laurence Douglas in the left-leaning Guardian called the firing “a brazen attack on the rule of law,” noting that “even if innocent of collusion, Trump has done something almost as bad—he has undermined investigative independence, a mainstay of rule-based governance.” Writing in the conservative weekly magazine The Spectator, Freddy Gray questioned if the incident warranted its Nixon comparisons. “As usual with Trump, though, it seems impossible to figure out quite what he is up to. If he really wanted to conceal his ties to Russia, why would he do something quite so dramatic? … It seems extremely foolish to draw so much attention, even for this reckless administration, unless of course Trump really does have nothing to hide.”

How International Media Saw James Comey's Firing - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/05/comeys-firing-through-international-headlines/526083/)

Again, making america great again my a$$.....it is all about HIM and nobody else.

There afraid the foreign aid going to be cut off. They been sucking the American tit for long time. It's time they start paying their own way. Especially for NATO and useless United Nations.

[MDLNB]

There afraid the foreign aid going to be cut off. They been sucking the American tit for long time. It's time they start paying their own way. Especially for NATO and useless United Nations.

:agree:

[billethkid]

Ok with me.

The only thing you ever say, without any backup except your hate is your speaking of Obama, Clinton, and any person not aligned with YOUR political views. It is old... THAT is not a position.

"In his wildest dreams, Russian leader (and former Soviet intelligence officer) Vladimir Putin could have never imagined the extent of his success during President Donald Trump’s first five months in office.

Trump’s move on Tuesday to terminate FBI Director James Comey puts another huge point on the scoreboard for Putin — especially given the FBI’s lead role in probing possible collusion between the Trump campaign and Russia.

Trump’s decision to fire Comey is another win for Vladimir Putin - Vox (https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/5/11/15616798/trump-comey-fire-fbi-putin-russia-influence-election)

Someday, perhaps you can offer something on here besides hate for Obama before this thing is all over

One sees and hears what one wants to see and hear.
To each his own....allowed in most quorums.

[autumnspring]

Can you believe Trump invited our Russian enemies directly into the most secure offices in America ?? Is he nuts or what !!!?????????

1. If, you are not aware, more Russians died in WWII then all the other allies combined. It is true that both the US and Great Brittan had a mistrust of the Russians.
Amusing is the fact that the Japanese, Italians and the Germans were the axis powers. Which Japanese are arians.

2. As to today, DO YOU WANT THE RUSSIANS AS ENEMIES?
IF, SO WHY? I SUGGEST IT IS BECAUSE ACCORDING TO YOU AND THE OTHER HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS YOU CANNOT SEE YOUR ANTI TRUMP PREJUDICE.

3. We are seeing a world military build up. Not only in N.Korea but in China as well. China out numbers us 200 to 1. We say, we hope NEVER but, rationally I would much rather see Russia at our side then charging at us.

4. RE: Russian influence in our election
FIRST OF ALL IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. In your PREJUDICE you CHOOSE to give Obama, Hillary and all around them Bill, Lynch a pass.
Are you aware that Obama tried to sabotage the election of Netanyahu? Are you aware that Obama stuck his nose into Kenya's politics AND HE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE.

[Rockyrd]

1. If, you are not aware, more Russians died in WWII then all the other allies combined. It is true that both the US and Great Brittan had a mistrust of the Russians.
Amusing is the fact that the Japanese, Italians and the Germans were the axis powers. Which Japanese are arians.

2. As to today, DO YOU WANT THE RUSSIANS AS ENEMIES?
IF, SO WHY? I SUGGEST IT IS BECAUSE ACCORDING TO YOU AND THE OTHER HYPNOTIZED LIBERALS YOU CANNOT SEE YOUR ANTI TRUMP PREJUDICE.

3. We are seeing a world military build up. Not only in N.Korea but in China as well. China out numbers us 200 to 1. We say, we hope NEVER but, rationally I would much rather see Russia at our side then charging at us.

4. RE: Russian influence in our election
FIRST OF ALL IT HAS NOT BEEN PROVEN. In your PREJUDICE you CHOOSE to give Obama, Hillary and all around them Bill, Lynch a pass.
Are you aware that Obama tried to sabotage the election of Netanyahu? Are you aware that Obama stuck his nose into Kenya's politics AND HE WAS ASKED TO LEAVE.

Do you ever read the news ? I mean that...EVER ?

You are on a wave length that is of the occult.

This is a country that supports OPENLY a government (Syria) where mass executions are the norm. Do YOU know how many journalists that are Russian have died trying to expose this truth alone.

Promoting a lack of faith in Western institutions allows Moscow to promote ideologies and processes that support its interests. These include support for authoritarian governments, ethno-nationalists, and for kleptocracies extracting resources for personal gain.

They have invaded and taken over countries.

They have been PROVEN to have been the seed of, the action of trying to impact the election of OUR country. Of course this little fact is of NO consequences, it seems to you and your ilk.

I dont want the Russians as enemies...they already ARE

What planet do you people live on. A real estate salesman is bilking you for HIS gain, certainly not our country.

You folks better wake up and quick. They celebrate each day in Russia and most of you read their various sites each day so you know that as you cite what you read.

[rubicon]

Can you believe Trump invited our Russian enemies directly into the most secure offices in America ?? Is he nuts or what !!!?????????

Russians in the oval office :D Horrors I hesitated to respond to this thread because no one should take threads like this seriously

Let's see Obama is good buddies with a failed terrorist Bill Ayers. His best pal Valerie Jarret , and I mean such a good pal she lives with him still. Her parent's were board certified communists and she is a Muslim.

Obama made repeated and friendly overtures to both Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakan

Huma Abedin Clnton's BFF is Muslim. Keith Ellison, co chair of the DNC is a Muslim and supporter of CAIR ( a Muslim group which covers for terrorist) ...and there is more I can add but to what avail.

The thread like every thread about Trump and Russia is so kardashian

Personal Best Regards:

[billethkid]

Russians in the oval office :D Horrors I hesitated to respond to this thread because no one should take threads like this seriously

Let's see Obama is good buddies with a failed terrorist Bill Ayers. His best pal Valerie Jarret , and I mean such a good pal she lives with him still. Her parent's were board certified communists and she is a Muslim.

Obama made repeated and friendly overtures to both Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakan

Huma Abedin Clnton's BFF is Muslim. Keith Ellison, co chair of the DNC is a Muslim and supporter of CAIR ( a Muslim group which covers for terrorist) ...and there is more I can add but to what avail.

The thread like every thread about Trump and Russia is so kardashian

Personal Best Regards:

That is a fair and balanced polite assessment.
Using the oppositions optics of today.

[ColdNoMore]

Do you ever read the news ? I mean that...EVER ?

You are on a wave length that is of the occult.

This is a country that supports OPENLY a government (Syria) where mass executions are the norm. Do YOU know how many journalists that are Russian have died trying to expose this truth alone.

Promoting a lack of faith in Western institutions allows Moscow to promote ideologies and processes that support its interests. These include support for authoritarian governments, ethno-nationalists, and for kleptocracies extracting resources for personal gain.

They have invaded and taken over countries.

They have been PROVEN to have been the seed of, the action of trying to impact the election of OUR country. Of course this little fact is of NO consequences, it seems to you and your ilk.

I don't want the Russians as enemies...they already ARE!

What planet do you people live on. A real estate salesman is bilking you for HIS gain, certainly not our country.

You folks better wake up and quick. They celebrate each day in Russia and most of you read their various sites each day so you know that as you cite what you read.
It boggles the mind, how many Cultists infected with the actual 'Trump Derangement Syndrome' (he can do no wrong) cannot even fathom...your very accurate statements underlined above. :oops:

Maybe if more yelling (by using caps), might pierce the void of people like susie? :D

I swear...some people. :ohdear:

[Rockyrd]

Russians in the oval office :D Horrors I hesitated to respond to this thread because no one should take threads like this seriously

Let's see Obama is good buddies with a failed terrorist Bill Ayers. His best pal Valerie Jarret , and I mean such a good pal she lives with him still. Her parent's were board certified communists and she is a Muslim.

Obama made repeated and friendly overtures to both Al Sharpton and Louis Farrakan

Huma Abedin Clnton's BFF is Muslim. Keith Ellison, co chair of the DNC is a Muslim and supporter of CAIR ( a Muslim group which covers for terrorist) ...and there is more I can add but to what avail.

The thread like every thread about Trump and Russia is so kardashian

Personal Best Regards:

"Here is how it works: Rather than defend President Trump’s specific actions, his conservative champions change the subject to (1) the biased “fake news” media, (2) over-the-top liberals, (3) hypocrites on the left, (4) anyone else victimizing Mr. Trump or his supporters and (5) whataboutism, as in “What about Obama?” “What about Clinton?”

For the anti-anti-Trump pundit, whatever the allegation against Mr. Trump, whatever his blunders or foibles, the other side is always worse."


https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/12/opinion/sunday/if-liberals-hate-him-then-trump-must-be-doing-something-right.html?_r=0

KARDASHIAN YOU SAY ????

"WASHINGTON — President Trump boasted about highly classified intelligence in a meeting with the Russian foreign minister and ambassador last week, providing details that could expose the source of the information and the manner in which it was collected, a current and a former American government official said Monday.

The intelligence disclosed by Mr. Trump in a meeting with Sergey V. Lavrov, the Russian foreign minister, and Sergey I. Kislyak, the Russian ambassador to the United States, was about an Islamic State plot, according to the officials. A foreign ally that closely guards its own secrets provided the information, which was considered so sensitive that American officials did not share it widely within the United States government or pass it on to other allies.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/15/us/politics/trump-russia-classified-information-isis.html

And we have to put up with it, because as he tells us each day.....HE won...."Mr. Trump’s disclosure does not appear to have been illegal — the president has the power to declassify almost anything. But sharing the information without the express permission of the ally who provided it represented a major breach of espionage etiquette, and could jeopardize a crucial intelligence-sharing relationship."

Yep...other counties will line up to share information with our country now.....

Can you see Trump...."hey guys wanna see what I know" ?

[Rockyrd]

That is a fair and balanced polite assessment.
Using the oppositions optics of today.

Now I know why he continually said that "maybe" Clinton gave up secrets to the Russians.....

He KNEW there was an easier way....

"President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency."



Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.d11bcf4c1640)


billethkid I am sorry for sharing facts with you....I know that just does not set well with you

[billethkid]

Now I know why he continually said that "maybe" Clinton gave up secrets to the Russians.....

He KNEW there was an easier way....

"President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency."



Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.d11bcf4c1640)


billethkid I am sorry for sharing facts with you....I know that just does not set well with you

Give it a break!
Where is the :censored: bite me emoticon when it is needed?

[MDLNB]

Now I know why he continually said that "maybe" Clinton gave up secrets to the Russians.....

He KNEW there was an easier way....

"President Trump revealed highly classified information to the Russian foreign minister and ambassador in a White House meeting last week, according to current and former U.S. officials, who said Trump’s disclosures jeopardized a critical source of intelligence on the Islamic State.

The information the president relayed had been provided by a U.S. partner through an intelligence-sharing arrangement considered so sensitive that details have been withheld from allies and tightly restricted even within the U.S. government, officials said.

The partner had not given the United States permission to share the material with Russia, and officials said Trump’s decision to do so endangers cooperation from an ally that has access to the inner workings of the Islamic State. After Trump’s meeting, senior White House officials took steps to contain the damage, placing calls to the CIA and the National Security Agency."



Trump revealed highly classified information to Russian foreign minister and ambassador - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-revealed-highly-classified-information-to-russian-foreign-minister-and-ambassador/2017/05/15/530c172a-3960-11e7-9e48-c4f199710b69_story.html?utm_term=.d11bcf4c1640)


billethkid I am sorry for sharing facts with you....I know that just does not set well with you

I think someone wanted to provide you with a suggestion, so I am assisting him, because I agree with him.

[wjboyer1]

I think someone wanted to provide you with a suggestion, so I am assisting him, because I agree with him.

"We can't have someone in the oval office who doesn't understand the meaning of the word confidential or classified." - Donald Trump, September 6, 2016

[Nucky]

What is the problem with turning this around? Is it possible that we put a bug on the Russians while they were at ease when they made it to the promised land, The Oval Office? Maybe while they sat down a listening device was planted on them. I have no proof, just a thought. If you think its not possible your nuts.

[ColdNoMore]

What is the problem with turning this around? Is it possible that we put a bug on the Russians while they were at ease when they made it to the promised land, The Oval Office? Maybe while they sat down a listening device was planted on them. I have no proof, just a thought. If you think its not possible your nuts.
:1rotfl:


I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're just completely brainwashed...and you're not really this goofy (and desperate). :oops:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[wjboyer1]

Truth Examiner - This is truly INCREDIBLE!
Using Donald... (https://www.facebook.com/TruthExaminer/videos/1703558096322596/)

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[Nucky]

:1rotfl:


I'm gonna give you the benefit of the doubt and say you're just completely brainwashed...and you're not really this goofy (and desperate). :oops:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Goofy? Are you posting from Disney? You are really an amazing person.

If he's guilty then get him out. Until he's found guilty let him work.

Respect, try it, it feels good. Desperate about what? Legal he stays, Not legal get out! Is that clearer?

[Taltarzac725]

Truth Examiner - This is truly INCREDIBLE!
Using Donald... (https://www.facebook.com/TruthExaminer/videos/1703558096322596/)

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Like that. :popcorn:

[MDLNB]

Trump passing intelligence to the Russians is a normal operation. That is a day to day operation that happens all over the world. Tit for tat and all that. Leaks by liberal spies in the White House is a felony. It is a shame how nasty Democrats have become. My family was Democrat for generations, but now there is absolutely no commonality with the radical left that goes under the guise of Democrat. There used to be issues that we had common views on, but now, no matter what one party says, the other will take the opposing view. The Democrats are dead to me. I no longer see anything we have in common. They are racists, UN-Patriotic, UN-lawful and deniers of the Constitution. There will be no future discussions, just adversity. That is what happens when they are takers instead of givers. They do not support our troops, our law enforcement officers, our laws or ANY religious beliefs. They are led by a communist pig, Soros and are so ignorant of his influence and financing that they adamantly deny he exists.

Liberals are so miserable that they hate America and wish to change it into a European satellite state. Better yet, a socialist/communist union so that they can have the gov make all their decisions for them. Adult babies.

If you are a liberal and an atheist, then you have nothing that you stand up for. You have no goals and no beliefs. You are dead.

[wjboyer1]

trump passing intelligence to the russians is a normal operation. That is a day to day operation that happens all over the world. Tit for tat and all that. Leaks by liberal spies in the white house is a felony. It is a shame how nasty democrats have become. My family was democrat for generations, but now there is absolutely no commonality with the radical left that goes under the guise of democrat. There used to be issues that we had common views on, but now, no matter what one party says, the other will take the opposing view. The democrats are dead to me. I no longer see anything we have in common. They are racists, un-patriotic, un-lawful and deniers of the constitution. There will be no future discussions, just adversity. That is what happens when they are takers instead of givers. They do not support our troops, our law enforcement officers, our laws or any religious beliefs. They are led by a communist pig, soros and are so ignorant of his influence and financing that they adamantly deny he exists.

Liberals are so miserable that they hate america and wish to change it into a european satellite state. Better yet, a socialist/communist union so that they can have the gov make all their decisions for them. Adult babies.

If you are a liberal and an atheist, then you have nothing that you stand up for. You have no goals and no beliefs. You are dead.

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[Rockyrd]

Trump passing intelligence to the Russians is a normal operation. That is a day to day operation that happens all over the world. Tit for tat and all that. Leaks by liberal spies in the White House is a felony. It is a shame how nasty Democrats have become. My family was Democrat for generations, but now there is absolutely no commonality with the radical left that goes under the guise of Democrat. There used to be issues that we had common views on, but now, no matter what one party says, the other will take the opposing view. The Democrats are dead to me. I no longer see anything we have in common. They are racists, UN-Patriotic, UN-lawful and deniers of the Constitution. There will be no future discussions, just adversity. That is what happens when they are takers instead of givers. They do not support our troops, our law enforcement officers, our laws or ANY religious beliefs. They are led by a communist pig, Soros and are so ignorant of his influence and financing that they adamantly deny he exists.

Liberals are so miserable that they hate America and wish to change it into a European satellite state. Better yet, a socialist/communist union so that they can have the gov make all their decisions for them. Adult babies.

If you are a liberal and an atheist, then you have nothing that you stand up for. You have no goals and no beliefs. You are dead.

I hate to burst your bubble, but what you say is made Up BS

NO President shares top secret information without lengthy and long detailed batting of the situation, the individuals who might get it and many long procedures.

OF THIS I AM SURE, and it has always been that way so wherever you get your information is very flawed, and of that I am 100% positive.

Something I have always wanted to say on here. Posters, especially the brain dead who refuse to accept the fact our President is a proven liar and criminal, both before and since the election, keep speaking of some liberal rut over the election, YET...

I NEVER READ THE ELECTION BROUGHT UP EXCEPT BY TRUMP SUPPORTERS.

THEY appear to have stopped Tim in Nov 2016 and refuse to accept anything that has happened since.

ALL...EVERY SINGLE..instance that has gotten Trump in trouble....EVERY SINGLE BIT is the action of Trump himself. Actually, liberals have behaved more adult like that Trump since the election.

You who keep speaking of the past...Obama, Clinton or whatever are making fools of yourself.

Trump is ruining himself, you, the Republican Party and the country all by himself. He is destroying any chance of getting any good strong legislation passed, because of HIS ACTIONS, nobody else. If even 65% of Powhatan we read is true, he is single handily handing the reins of government over to the Democrats.

You sound infantile in what you think is fact about sharing of intelligence, and even more so with your comments about the past. The past is the past..step forward from the election...no liberal in congress has done one single thing to even slow down Trump. Outside noise is just that...do some research on the comments right after Obama election or the Bush election.

NOBODY IS DOING A THING TO TRUMP....ALL SELF INDUCED.

By the way, I lived the sharing of secrets between countries but will search to see if I can find something to prove how inane your remarks are.

[Allegiance]

I hate to burst your bubble, but what you say is made Up BS

NO President shares top secret information without lengthy and long detailed batting of the situation, the individuals who might get it and many long procedures.

OF THIS I AM SURE, and it has always been that way so wherever you get your information is very flawed, and of that I am 100% positive.

Something I have always wanted to say on here. Posters, especially the brain dead who refuse to accept the fact our President is a proven liar and criminal, both before and since the election, keep speaking of some liberal rut over the election, YET...

I NEVER READ THE ELECTION BROUGHT UP EXCEPT BY TRUMP SUPPORTERS.

THEY appear to have stopped Tim in Nov 2016 and refuse to accept anything that has happened since.

ALL...EVERY SINGLE..instance that has gotten Trump in trouble....EVERY SINGLE BIT is the action of Trump himself. Actually, liberals have behaved more adult like that Trump since the election.

You who keep speaking of the past...Obama, Clinton or whatever are making fools of yourself.

Trump is ruining himself, you, the Republican Party and the country all by himself. He is destroying any chance of getting any good strong legislation passed, because of HIS ACTIONS, nobody else. If even 65% of Powhatan we read is true, he is single handily handing the reins of government over to the Democrats.

You sound infantile in what you think is fact about sharing of intelligence, and even more so with your comments about the past. The past is the past..step forward from the election...no liberal in congress has done one single thing to even slow down Trump. Outside noise is just that...do some research on the comments right after Obama election or the Bush election.

NOBODY IS DOING A THING TO TRUMP....ALL SELF INDUCED.

By the way, I lived the sharing of secrets between countries but will search to see if I can find something to prove how inane your remarks are.

Do you even understand, NO ONE CAN EVER take you seriously when you talk like this..

"NO President shares top secret information without lengthy and long detailed batting of the situation, the individuals who might get it and many long procedures.

OF THIS I AM SURE, and it has always been that way so wherever you get your information is very flawed, and of that I am 100% positive."



Think about it.

[Rockyrd]

Just quickly because most of the procedures are closely held, but I assure you...it is not a "normal procedure"

"Classified information is typically shared after considerable government deliberation since, as the Nixon anecdote illustrates, such disclosures risk undermining the work of intelligence officials and endangering national security. And it’s another matter entirely “when the United States shares another country’s secret information”—as opposed to its own—without that country’s permission, Naftali explained. “The U.S. government does that very, very, very rarely” since it can jeopardize intelligence sources and the intelligence-sharing relationship as a whole."

Was Trump's Disclosure to the Russians Unprecedented? - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2017/05/trump-russia-precedent/526830/)

[Rockyrd]

Do you even understand, NO ONE CAN EVER take you seriously when you talk like this..

"NO President shares top secret information without lengthy and long detailed batting of the situation, the individuals who might get it and many long procedures.

OF THIS I AM SURE, and it has always been that way so wherever you get your information is very flawed, and of that I am 100% positive."



Think about it.

No need to think.....I KNOW what I am speaking of and you should learn a bit instead of just offering up waste cracks.

[Rockyrd]

Do you even understand, NO ONE CAN EVER take you seriously when you talk like this..

"NO President shares top secret information without lengthy and long detailed batting of the situation, the individuals who might get it and many long procedures.

OF THIS I AM SURE, and it has always been that way so wherever you get your information is very flawed, and of that I am 100% positive."



Think about it.

It appears you have an aversion to reading, but if you really want to undersatnd a little, click and read for a general overview.

How it works: intelligence sharing with other countries - The Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/05/16/how-works-intelligence-sharing-with-other-countries/rGicD2GMZnWueKnK1TOkON/story.html)

"Few doubt that President Trump had the legal right to share highly-classified US intelligence information with Russian diplomats during a meeting last week. But to understand why it still might not have been a good idea, it’s important to consider the established ground rules of “intelligence sharing.” That’s the vital but little-discussed practice in which allies — and sometimes adversaries — agree to exchange secret information, under strict conditions."

[dirtbanker]

It appears you have an aversion to reading, but if you really want to undersatnd a little, click and read for a general overview.

How it works: intelligence sharing with other countries - The Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/news/nation/2017/05/16/how-works-intelligence-sharing-with-other-countries/rGicD2GMZnWueKnK1TOkON/story.html)

"Few doubt that President Trump had the legal right to share highly-classified US intelligence information with Russian diplomats during a meeting last week. But to understand why it still might not have been a good idea, it’s important to consider the established ground rules of “intelligence sharing.” That’s the vital but little-discussed practice in which allies — and sometimes adversaries — agree to exchange secret information, under strict conditions."


Hey Mr. Thick, the key word in that opinion = "might"

I thought you and the (unt were going to MARCH in DC??

[Rockyrd]

Hey Mr. Thick, the key word in that opinion = "might"

I thought you and the (unt were going to MARCH in DC??

Did you miss the "established ground rules"

Look pal, you can post all the crap you want. He can do what he did.....it is absolutely extraordinarily rare.

The "Five Eyes Alliance" will not be happy, and I KNOW information from them will slow and we will get less.

You wanting to blindly love this crook is blinding you from facts. Nobody said he could not do what he did. It was stupid, and should petrify anyone who is Ann American

[Rockyrd]

I suggest you read this link...very very general, but may help you understand the uproar.


"The Five Eyes, often abbreviated as FVEY, is an intelligence alliance comprising Australia, Canada, New Zealand, the United Kingdom and the United States. These countries, all Anglophone and ruled by a common law legal system, are bound by the multilateral UKUSA Agreement, a treaty for joint cooperation in signals intelligence.[1][2][3]"


Five Eyes - Wikipedia (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Five_Eyes)

[Allegiance]

Did you miss the "established ground rules"

Look pal, you can post all the crap you want. He can do what he did.....it is absolutely extraordinarily rare.

The "Five Eyes Alliance" will not be happy, and I KNOW information from them will slow and we will get less.

You wanting to blindly love this crook is blinding you from facts. Nobody said he could not do what he did. It was stupid, and should petrify anyone who is Ann American
Once again, "nobody" think this thru moron.


People who speak in absolutes usually appear to me as unintelligent dolts with a poor grasp of the English language. A person doesn't need to engage in Bayesian probabilistic reasoning to arrive at every single belief (in fact, it's too slow and mentally taxing to do so). But it doesn't take a genius to recognize the fact that there are very few self-evident propositions (in fact, one could intelligibly argue, "we probably don't know anything with 100% certainty - including this very assertion, of course).

It just chafes me the wrong way when people speak absolutes and actually believe the statements coming from their lips. I've heard multiple people state (and try to seriously argue) that all generalizations are false.

On the other hand, I have no problem if a person is speaking in absolutes in a joking manner.


Have you talked this way your whole life? Are you college educated?

[Rockyrd]

Once again, "nobody" think this thru moron.


People who speak in absolutes usually appear to me as unintelligent dolts with a poor grasp of the English language. A person doesn't need to engage in Bayesian probabilistic reasoning to arrive at every single belief (in fact, it's too slow and mentally taxing to do so). But it doesn't take a genius to recognize the fact that there are very few self-evident propositions (in fact, one could intelligibly argue, "we probably don't know anything with 100% certainty - including this very assertion, of course).

It just chafes me the wrong way when people speak absolutes and actually believe the statements coming from their lips. I've heard multiple people state (and try to seriously argue) that all generalizations are false.

On the other hand, I have no problem if a person is speaking in absolutes in a joking manner.


Have you talked this way your whole life? Are you college educated?

Ok...not sure on what front you are defending Trump, but since you question me and my knowledge......

1. I have supplied you with factual reading on the subject, which you obviously have not read.

2. I lived this process in late 50s to early 60's and know it quite well.

3. Because of my exposure, I keep tabs on what I can( obviously minimal) and know how it works.

4. Before you break your smart ass bone, nobody said the President could not do this...EVER. It is simply being pointed out that it is BEYOND highly unusual, and even more "newsworthy" because the country supplying this info, the city it was sourced from, etc was revealed. And it was revealed to Russia, who last time we hated in 2016, they used such info to bomb our allies.
Russia is not our friend, and we should use extreme caution with them. This is not smart and certainly not in the interest of our country.

[dirtbanker]

Once again, "nobody" think this thru moron.

People who speak in absolutes usually appear to me as unintelligent dolts with a poor grasp of the English language. A person doesn't need to engage in Bayesian probabilistic reasoning to arrive at every single belief (in fact, it's too slow and mentally taxing to do so). But it doesn't take a genius to recognize the fact that there are very few self-evident propositions (in fact, one could intelligibly argue, "we probably don't know anything with 100% certainty - including this very assertion, of course).

It just chafes me the wrong way when people speak absolutes and actually believe the statements coming from their lips. I've heard multiple people state (and try to seriously argue) that all generalizations are false.

On the other hand, I have no problem if a person is speaking in absolutes in a joking manner.


Have you talked this way your whole life? Are you college educated?

You have not been here much, let me get you up to speed on Rockface's knowledge:

He is an expert with "50 years experience in the political arena"...

He used to be screen name Bucco on here. He claims he was a republican and criticized Obamma "relentlessly"...

The liberals on here threatened him via PM, he pussed out and left for a while. He came back as Rockface, a liberal, and has been criticizing the GOP for the last year.

With his expert knowledge; in the last election, he decided it would be best to vote for someone that was not even a candidate for president (Dopey Smurf).

He does not feel there has been a good president since Eisenhower, none of the contemporary era presidents are, or have been, good enough for him. It did not matter who got elected, he was going complain non stop about their every move too...

Everyone of his posts are negative, many of them have copy and paste opinions that he agrees with, and feels we need to read it (in bold and red ink).

He has a hard on for Gracie and Rubi...he can't help but comment on each and everyone of their posts - negatively.

He used to be super critical on conservatives forgetting to include a link, I pointed out he was not complaining about the liberals not providing links...

He then changed to being critical on lying, till I caught him lying (he said "honestly, I don't mean to pick on you" to Rubi and then went on to pick on him personally)...and now that obsession has seemed to die down too.

Lately he has been whining about vulgar language. He does not like "locker room talk", I get the feeling he is a girly man...

In short he is just a long winded old fool...

[MDLNB]

You have not been here much, let me get you up to speed on Rockface's knowledge:

He is an expert with "50 years experience in the political arena"...

He used to be screen name Bucco on here. He claims he was a republican and criticized Obamma "relentlessly"...

The liberals on here threatened him via PM, he pussed out and left for a while. He came back as Rockface, a liberal, and has been criticizing the GOP for the last year.

With his expert knowledge; in the last election, he decided it would be best to vote for someone that was not even a candidate for president (Dopey Smurf).

He does not feel there has been a good president since Eisenhower, none of the contemporary era presidents are, or have been, good enough for him. It did not matter who got elected, he was going complain non stop about their every move too...

Everyone of his posts are negative, many of them have copy and paste opinions that he agrees with, and feels we need to read it (in bold and red ink).

He has a hard on for Gracie and Rubi...he can't help but comment on each and everyone of their posts - negatively.

He used to be super critical on conservatives forgetting to include a link, I pointed out he was not complaining about the liberals not providing links...

He then changed to being critical on lying, till I caught him lying (he said "honestly, I don't mean to pick on you" to Rubi and then went on to pick on him personally)...and now that obsession has seemed to die down too.

Lately he has been whining about vulgar language. He does not like "locker room talk", I get the feeling he is a girly man...

In short he is just a long winded old fool...

Funny........:a20: