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[Talk Host]

After all the hoopla, many of our most outspoken TOTV political posters have hightailed it out of town. :crap2:

I guess the voice of reason won out.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

[billethkid]

another's oblique statement, what is the message being conveyed?

btk

[cologal]

After all the hoopla, many of our most outspoken TOTV political posters have hightailed it out of town. :crap2:

I guess the voice of reason won out.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

Some of us have decided to get control of our blood pressure. I will admit my will power has nearly failed me several times but as of yet I have not opted in.

[tony]

If you do, will you respect yourself in the morning?

[dklassen]

I thought we had a pretty good group going in there. We had some fairly spirited debates with a pretty diverse set of opinions. It was fun and I enjoyed it, even with the folks I disagreed. What fun would the world be if we all thought the exact same thing right?

So as a courtesy to the rest of the members who were not interested in seeing the "spirited" political posts and titles constantly mixed in with the rest of the new and recent discussions, we decided to make the political board a membership board. Two quick clicks of the mouse and you were back in like nothing ever happened. No big deal really.

And for that I hear some of the regulars took their toys and went home in a huff. Dare I say... wow.

[gnu]

And for that I hear some of the regulars took their toys and went home in a huff. Dare I say... wow.

I wouldn't say anyone took their toys and went home in a huff except whoever the few were that complained to Tony how they didn't like the way we play. Most of the liberal posters were not happy, not able to stand the heat and stopped posting. I guess their man is the POTIS now so they don't need to debate issues any more. I'm sorry that their so thin skinned that they can't take the heat of the opposition.

[gnu]

Some of us have decided to get control of our blood pressure. I will admit my will power has nearly failed me several times but as of yet I have not opted in.

I hope that when you get your blood presure under control that you'll sign up. Even though I personally am against most of your ideas I still appreciate the chance to have an opposing point of view. It's not a debate if everyone is on the same side of the platform.

[dklassen]

Nah, I don't think it was that. Some of the libs ;) hang in there pretty well and I love them too and it's not just the folks on the left that stopped posting. We got push back the minute I announced it was going to be a membership board. I just don't see the big deal, nothing changed except you had to click your mouse a couple times to see the board. Life as we know it didn't come to an end. The weather in Tennessee today was beautiful. Now that's important!

[Ooper]

Yes... I agree this whole forum should be, but I didn't start it here!

[Talk Host]

Yes... I agree this whole forum should be, but I didn't start it here!


:shrug:

[billethkid]

have departed if, using Tony's latest figure of 100 members, state how many.
Just like few is more than two (but how many more?). Many is what number?

Specificity, or lack of it, is the real crux for most issues presented, allowing everybody to be right (or left:confused:) in their own mind.

btk

[Talk Host]

have departed if, using Tony's latest figure of 100 members, state how many.
Just like few is more than two (but how many more?). Many is what number?

Specificity, or lack of it, is the real crux for most issues presented, allowing everybody to be right (or left:confused:) in their own mind.

btk

Why are you so hung up on exact numbers? What does it prove?

[redwitch]

I quit posting to the political forum because it quit being interesting or fun. People weren't really saying anything, just adding links to "jounalists" and columnists who agreed with their viewpoints. If you dared to disagree, they just got nasty. No fun, nothing new, nothing worth saying a thing about. It really had nothing to do with the fact that my man won or that I'm a liberal. If it ain't fun or interesting, why bother? I can hear the same tired arguments any evening in the squares and they don't want to hear any counterpoint to their viewpoints there, either.

[Ooper]

Yes... I agree this whole forum should be, but I didn't start it here!

This was a reply to a post that must have been removed. It is not there now!

[billethkid]

to a point being made. While you are certainly entitled to your perspective/view, your conclusion or illusion that I have a hang up is incorrect. Numbers do make the difference in interpretation. Generalities usually offer no real perspective and and have a tendency to appeal to emotion only. Seeking clarity or understanding is not a "hang up" or trying to "prove" anything.

Whenever anything I say/state/write, is incorrectly represented, I always obligate myself to set the record straight. It is just that simple!!

btk

[joannej]

I quit posting to the political forum because it quit being interesting or fun. People weren't really saying anything, just adding links to "jounalists" and columnists who agreed with their viewpoints. If you dared to disagree, they just got nasty. No fun, nothing new, nothing worth saying a thing about. It really had nothing to do with the fact that my man won or that I'm a liberal. If it ain't fun or interesting, why bother? I can hear the same tired arguments any evening in the squares and they don't want to hear any counterpoint to their viewpoints there, either.
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During the elections I visited Political quite a bit and added comments and felt the disagreements had more of a civil tone. Recently many issues discussed turned into an Obama bashing or unfortunately a bashing of the poster with an opposing opinion (like what was happening to Cologal). I agree with Red, and I think she clearly stated some of the issues some of us had about the former Political site. I honestly felt afraid to post any opinion for fear of getting a bashing too.

[chelsea24]

I'm here....

http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/kvasthexa.gif (http://www.millan.net)



ahem.... that's spelled with a "W" boys! :laugh:

[champion6]

After all the hoopla, many of our most outspoken TOTV political posters have hightailed it out of town. :crap2:

I guess the voice of reason won out.:eclipsee_gold_cup:I really don't care and I think this post belongs in the political forum.

Long ago after a few visits to the political forum, I realized I didn't like it. I simply never went back to it.

[cologal]

I'm here....

http://www.millan.net/minimations/smileys/kvasthexa.gif (http://www.millan.net)



ahem.... that's spelled with a "W" boys! :laugh:

Good one Chels!!!

[diskman]

After all the hoopla, many of our most outspoken TOTV political posters have hightailed it out of town. :crap2:

I guess the voice of reason won out.:eclipsee_gold_cup:

I think you just made it more trouble than it was worth. To sign up and go to another area.:evil6:

[tony]

Yea, you're right. We thought that might happen. Two mouse clicks are far too difficult for them.

[Shirleevee]

I quit posting to the political forum because it quit being interesting or fun. People weren't really saying anything, just adding links to "jounalists" and columnists who agreed with their viewpoints. If you dared to disagree, they just got nasty. No fun, nothing new, nothing worth saying a thing about. It really had nothing to do with the fact that my man won or that I'm a liberal. If it ain't fun or interesting, why bother? I can hear the same tired arguments any evening in the squares and they don't want to hear any counterpoint to their viewpoints there, either.

I agree! I listen & read enough bs from friends who have turned hateful because of political stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!

[BobKat1]

I agree! I listen & read enough bs from friends who have turned hateful because of political stuff!!!!!!!!!!!!

I've been receiving emails from friends and former co-workers, who don't know one another, recirculating the same kind of negative bs that you referred too. I can tell from the titles what they are and can delete without bothering to open.

[Boomer]

Good morning, Shirleevee and BobKat,

I know what you mean and so I had to come up with a plan. For the emails, it's easy. The pattern can be spotted right away and so you can just hit delete without even opening it. I still very much like these people, but enough is enough. (They never know I deleted the stuff though. I am a moderate after all. I just never respond on that topic.)

But, when your friends and relatives are with you in person, sometimes you have to set ground rules. My sister-in-law makes a noise like a loud buzzer when topics of conversation at family gatherings start to go astray. She is a pastor so everybody minds her.

When people are at my house and they want to invoke Rush or Beck or whoever, I just say, "I cannot talk about that anymore." And then I tickle them and tickle them and tickle them until they cannot stop laughing.

I hope you find these suggestions helpful.

Boomer

[zcaveman]

In a post a while ago I asked Tony if we could do the following:

1. Provide a way that we can filter the forums so we only see the forums we want in the New Posts. Then, if we want, we can go to the list at the bottom to see the other forums.

I personally though that this would have been better than making the Political forum a selected forum because I could have gotten rid of all of those forums I do not want to see.

It also would not have singled a particular group out which I think is undemocratic.


2. Put a checkbox in the new forums so we can mark unwanted posts as read so we don't see them on the next time we go to the New Posts unless there is a new posting.

My feeling was that we could go to New Posts and Click on all of the posts we do not want to see be it political or feminine or items for sale, etc and do a GO and end up with a filtered list.

[anyexit]

In a post a while ago I asked Tony if we could do the following:

1. Provide a way that we can filter the forums so we only see the forums we want in the New Posts. Then, if we want, we can go to the list at the bottom to see the other forums.

I personally though that this would have been better than making the Political forum a selected forum because I could have gotten rid of all of those forums I do not want to see.

It also would not have singled a particular group out which I think is undemocratic.


2. Put a checkbox in the new forums so we can mark unwanted posts as read so we don't see them on the next time we go to the New Posts unless there is a new posting.

My feeling was that we could go to New Posts and Click on all of the posts we do not want to see be it political or feminine or items for sale, etc and do a GO and end up with a filtered list.

I feel that the administrators have identified a concern/problem without bias. It is apparent that they looked at a large varitety of possible solutions and selected what they believe to be the BEST solution available. They believe that it is the BEST solution for their business and the BEST option for all members. I appreciate their attention to this matter and respect their decision.

[katezbox]

In a post a while ago I asked Tony if we could do the following:

1. Provide a way that we can filter the forums so we only see the forums we want in the New Posts. Then, if we want, we can go to the list at the bottom to see the other forums.

I personally though that this would have been better than making the Political forum a selected forum because I could have gotten rid of all of those forums I do not want to see.

It also would not have singled a particular group out which I think is undemocratic.


2. Put a checkbox in the new forums so we can mark unwanted posts as read so we don't see them on the next time we go to the New Posts unless there is a new posting.

My feeling was that we could go to New Posts and Click on all of the posts we do not want to see be it political or feminine or items for sale, etc and do a GO and end up with a filtered list.


Caveman, I agree that this is a good option. But, I am in the software business. Sometimes things that "sound" easy and logical to users, are in fact complex and expensive to program.

I don't know if your suggestion is possible inside the framework of the provider that provides hosting for TOTV.

I agree with anyexit that TH and Tony have made the best decision for their business and (hopefully) for their customers.