Whom to believe-- Comey or Trump.

[Taltarzac725]

Trump vs. Comey: Who will America trust? - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/trump-vs-comey-credibility/)

Let's see. Campaigner Donald Trump lied pretty much constantly on the campaign trail and now as President he continues to lie. Comey is often way too honest for his own good.

[Don Baldwin]

Trump vs. Comey: Who will America trust? - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/trump-vs-comey-credibility/)

Let's see. Campaigner Donald Trump lied pretty much constantly on the campaign trail and now as President he continues to lie. Comey is often way too honest for his own good.

That's funny...EVERY high level government position is a political position...the FBI director IS a political position too...and he IS "dirty" just like all the rest. You don't get there being an altar boy.

[cologal]

Comey!!!

[wjboyer1]

Did President Trump Obstruct Justice In His Dealings With James Comey? Legal Experts Disagree. : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2017/05/17/528776862/its-falling-out-of-the-trees-former-prosecutor-says-of-obstruction-evidence?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170517)

[billethkid]

If Comey is so honest, why did he with hold the information in his memo to himself alleging Trump's request to drop Flynn issues?

He was able to sit on such a hot potato for all these months. And their value now vs 3 months ago (assuming they exist in the form and content that is being pedaled these days)?

Why is nobody curious if he could have written the memo last week?

Simple Disgruntled fired employee looking for his pound of flesh....he said vs he said......BS!

[Rockyrd]

If Comey is so honest, why did he with hold the information in his memo to himself alleging Trump's request to drop Flynn issues?

He was able to sit on such a hot potato for all these months. And their value now vs 3 months ago (assuming they exist in the form and content that is being pedaled these days)?

Why is nobody curious if he could have written the memo last week?

Simple Disgruntled fired employee looking for his pound of flesh....he said vs he said......BS!

First be aware, we are not talking about some handwritten note filed in a manilla folder.

We are, as I understand, talking about a memo of understanding typed, printed and date stamped by third party and then filed away and secured. The day he was fired, within minutes all his files were under lock and key.

This has been his practice for many years, his career, and all know about it....see the 2004 case at Ashcrofts bedside.

These are not memos put into a little book simply for his own gratification. He has been known as someone who will always do that and then file it.........it is supposed by many that they are date stamped when he has them typed and then secured.

ALSO be aware that Comey did not challenge Trump.....

Trump is the one who challenged Comey on all the meetings, and mentioned the possibility of tapes....Comey has not challenged him at all.

He has only been firm that he wants to testify but ONLY IN PUBLIC.

In any case, we will hear him testify as I understand next week.

[jebartle]

Can not believe ANYTHING Trump says, look at his record.

Comey is well respected and gives me no reason to doubt his honesty,
Especially since he hopes there are tapes!

[fourandrew]

That's funny...EVERY high level government position is a political position...the FBI director IS a political position too...and he IS "dirty" just like all the rest. You don't get there being an altar boy.


Please explain how the FBI director IS guilty??????? please provide proof--not inuendo:spoken:

[billethkid]

And now all of a sudden Comey has become snow white.

:censored: amazing!

[Rockyrd]

And now all of a sudden Comey has become snow white.

:censored: amazing!

What is amazing ?

He is not under investigation except by folks like you who have no defense for you loved hero.

He did nothing wrong and why you would attack him....well, it is obvious why.

Stay calm...he will show up next week prepared to talk in public UNDER OATH.....we will see.

Turning the tables verbally as you are doing is sort of a dumb thing to do. He has not been charged with anything...he is volunteering to testify and wants it public and under oath.

Agreeing with ONLY DONBALDWIN is sort of a panic move. Baldwin thinks everyone is crooked, and Trump is his poster boy because he has a track record dating back decades and decades of lying and deceit

[wjboyer1]

And now all of a sudden Comey has become snow white.

:censored: amazing!

So Why do you think Trump fired Comey?
TRUMP: He’s a showboat, he’s a grandstander. The FBI has been in turmoil. You know that, I know that, everybody knows that. You take a look at the FBI a year ago, it was in virtual turmoil, less than a year ago. It hasn’t recovered from that.

The White House said,"The official White House statement on May 9 said Trump “acted based on the clear recommendations” of the attorney general and deputy attorney general. But Trump, in an interview two days later, said he was going to fire Comey “regardless of recommendation.”
Trump said the “FBI has been in turmoil,” and a White House spokeswoman said “the rank and file of the FBI had lost confidence” in Comey. “That is not accurate,” according to Acting FBI Director Andrew McCabe, who said Comey “enjoyed broad support within the FBI, and still does to this day.”

Nobody fooled by Trump’s excuse for firing James Comey

Nobody fooled by Trump's excuse for firing James Comey | Chicago Sun-Times (http://chicago.suntimes.com/opinion/nobody-fooled-by-trumps-excuse-for-firing-james-comey/)

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[ColdNoMore]

What is amazing ?

He is not under investigation except by folks like you who have no defense for you loved hero.

He did nothing wrong and why you would attack him....well, it is obvious why.

Stay calm...he will show up next week prepared to talk in public UNDER OATH.....we will see.

Turning the tables verbally as you are doing is sort of a dumb thing to do. He has not been charged with anything...he is volunteering to testify and wants it public and under oath.

Agreeing with ONLY DON BALDWIN is sort of a panic move. Baldwin thinks everyone is crooked, and Trump is his poster boy because he has a track record dating back decades and decades of lying and deceit

I think it is even more than a panic move, it's a glimpse into those...who secretly agree with the racist but are afraid to come right out and say it. :ohdear:

[dillywho]

Did President Trump Obstruct Justice In His Dealings With James Comey? Legal Experts Disagree. : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2017/05/17/528776862/its-falling-out-of-the-trees-former-prosecutor-says-of-obstruction-evidence?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170517)

Check out Comey's sworn testimony of May 3rd. He said not then, so just which way is it?

[billethkid]

Check out Comey's sworn testimony of May 3rd. He said not then, so just which way is it?

Is this the same Comey the dems were upset with before the election?

The guy who they have said was the reason their Clinton shoe in lost the election.

The same gut that the dems were saying how he/Comey was out of bounds and not following Lynch's pattern?

Is that the Comey that the same dems are now claiming virgin like, snow white, honest, credible etc.

Now we know it is either political partisan BS or it is a different Comey.

All supported and amplified by the democratic media.

Certainly not two faced or double standard politics.....right!

[Rockyrd]

Check out Comey's sworn testimony of May 3rd. He said not then, so just which way is it?

NOBODY said he was told to HALT any investigation. If you read that somewhere it may have been an overzealous poster or something because he never even implied it.

To me, and none of this is impeachment stuff at this point is a request for loyalty...how that was couched is more important to me. It tells what is most important to the President...HIM or the country.

You folks are really grasping....having a President so involved in such controversary, ALL contrived by his actions, is a bit scary, and yet you still defend him.

He will not change...70 years of cheating and lying is not going to change. I bet you thought you would be rooting for policy !!!

[Rockyrd]

What the hell. Do they lie about everything.

"Michael Flynn and other advisers to Donald Trump’s campaign were in contact with Russian officials and others with Kremlin ties in at least 18 calls and emails during the last seven months of the 2016 presidential race, current and former U.S. officials familiar with the exchanges told Reuters.

The previously undisclosed interactions form part of the record now being reviewed by FBI and congressional investigators probing Russian interference in the U.S. presidential election and contacts between Trump’s campaign and Russia.

Six of the previously undisclosed contacts described to Reuters were phone calls between Sergei Kislyak, Russia's ambassador to the United States, and Trump advisers, including Flynn, Trump’s first national security adviser, three current and former officials said.

In January, the Trump White House initially denied any contacts with Russian officials during the 2016 campaign. The White House and advisers to the campaign have since confirmed four meetings between Kislyak and Trump advisers during that time."

Exclusive: Trump campaign had at least 18 undisclosed contacts with Russians: sources
| Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-russia-contacts-idUSKCN18E106)

[Rockyrd]

For all those who feel required to come on here and totally demean Comey, please note.......

He is not lying

AND most importantly his testimony is simply ONE brick in the building. This testimony will be because press reports imply nefarious things were said.

I think it is somewhere between......it DOES matter, but will not knock Trump out of the box.

So, all Trump supporters who must be very tired defending your hero, save trying to denigrate Comey...you will need all that hate for anyone opposed to your hero...believe me.

[Rockyrd]

When does this stop ? Seriously, if we had a serious problem in this country how in the world could you believe this man in the White House.

First, he fired Comey based on the recommendation of Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein. Said that pretty clearly.

Then, while still saying that he says he fired Comey and had the Russian investigation in his mind and was going to fire him without any recommendation.

Today, we hear from Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein that he knew at least a day before the memo was written that Comey would be fired. (keep in mind the memo in question was criticizing Comey for the Clinton press conference)

"So Rosenstein just told senators he knew Comey would be fired before he wrote the memo.

WH cover story was a lie from the start."




Twitter (https://twitter.com/JohnAvlon/status/865288519031369729?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp %5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet)

WHY CAN THIS MAN NOT TELL THE TRUTH EVER. HOW DO WE TRUST THE WHITE HOUSE EVER.

Oh, just as an after thought...this reported today from a leak FROM THE WHITE HOUSE AND TRUMP GROUP....

"A senior official in the Trump administration, who previously worked on the president’s campaign, offered a candid and brief assessment of the fallout from that string of bad press: “I don’t see how Trump isn’t completely fu$ked.”

Trump Officials on Comey Memo: ‘Don’t See How Trump Isn’t Completely F*cked’ (http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2017/05/16/trump-officials-on-comey-memo-dont-see-how-trump-isnt-completely-fcked)

THIS IS ALL HIS FAULT....100%

[ColdNoMore]

Every time Trump opens his mouth or uses his thumbs to tweet...he digs his hole deeper. :1rotfl:


Just listening to him today...he's whining like a two year old. :D

[mickey100]

Trump has zero credibility. We all know that, not even a point of discussion any more. Comey is an avowed Republican, and those leanings "may" have had ramifications regarding his treatment of candidate Clinton, but as far as honesty, most people see him as telling the truth.

[billethkid]

For many of us Comey tarnished his reputation and his ability to be objective in the job when he admitted Clinton broke the law; that she was reckless with national security; was incapable of comprehending the technology required for national security;

and then went on to say he could not see fit to prosecute.

He prostituted his reputation and the law of the land......like a bonafide politician playing the game instead of doing what was right by the law and right for the country.

So, no he is not any more trustworthy than any other politician, play the political game of self!

[Rockyrd]

For many of us Comey tarnished his reputation and his ability to be objective in the job when he admitted Clinton broke the law; that she was reckless with national security; was incapable of comprehending the technology required for national security;

and then went on to say he could not see fit to prosecute.

He prostituted his reputation and the law of the land......like a bonafide politician playing the game instead of doing what was right by the law and right for the country.

So, no he is not any more trustworthy than any other politician, play the political game of self!

I think you better reread his entire statement that he made.
This is a link to the entire thing.

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI (https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system)

Having said that, I would ask what one has to do with the other.

Comey is not on trial, nor does he stand accused of anything, nor is he under investigation for anything.

Nobody doubts the president may fire him.

Not sure what you think the issue is on Comeys reputation or anything. The issues are....

.....the President has told AT LEAST 3 different reasons for the firing, and told and tells different story than those who represent him.

....He admitted on camera, one reason was the investigation of HIS campaign and possible collusion with Russia.

....What did he say to Comey regarding Flynn.

....did Trump ask for a pledge of loyalty.

ALL of these issues relate to Trump, NOT COMEY. It is reported Comey has notes, heretofore considered admissible. Trump impliedvthere were tapes.

Bottom line...this is a side story. But attacking Comey means nothing. This is simply a small piece of the puzzle.

Collusion, if they find it.....laundering Russian money, if proven, etc are the important part.

I do suspect when it comes to honor and honesty, Comey wins hands down. You can question judgement or a decision, but there is NO..NONE...evidence of lying or deceit. On the other hand, Trump has wagons full.

I get your statement on "self", but gotta tell you...Trump was the exact opposite of who you need to keep everyone honest. And frankly, this is such a disaster, chances of another "Trump" is minimal. Trump is basically one of the most dishonest men in the planet. He was called that before politics and nothing has changed. He is the definition of being for "self".

[billethkid]

I think you better reread his entire statement that he made.
This is a link to the entire thing.

Statement by FBI Director James B. Comey on the Investigation of Secretary Hillary Clinton’s Use of a Personal E-Mail System — FBI (https://www.fbi.gov/news/pressrel/press-releases/statement-by-fbi-director-james-b-comey-on-the-investigation-of-secretary-hillary-clinton2019s-use-of-a-personal-e-mail-system)

Having said that, I would ask what one has to do with the other.

Comey is not on trial, nor does he stand accused of anything, nor is he under investigation for anything.

Nobody doubts the president may fire him.

Not sure what you think the issue is on Comeys reputation or anything. The issues are....

.....the President has told AT LEAST 3 different reasons for the firing, and told and tells different story than those who represent him.

....He admitted on camera, one reason was the investigation of HIS campaign and possible collusion with Russia.

....What did he say to Comey regarding Flynn.

....did Trump ask for a pledge of loyalty.

ALL of these issues relate to Trump, NOT COMEY. It is reported Comey has notes, heretofore considered admissible. Trump impliedvthere were tapes.

Bottom line...this is a side story. But attacking Comey means nothing. This is simply a small piece of the puzzle.

Collusion, if they find it.....laundering Russian money, if proven, etc are the important part.

I do suspect when it comes to honor and honesty, Comey wins hands down. You can question judgement or a decision, but there is NO..NONE...evidence of lying or deceit. On the other hand, Trump has wagons full.

I get your statement on "self", but gotta tell you...Trump was the exact opposite of who you need to keep everyone honest. And frankly, this is such a disaster, chances of another "Trump" is minimal. Trump is basically one of the most dishonest men in the planet. He was called that before politics and nothing has changed. He is the definition of being for "self".

For the highlight above....hence he was/is more of a politician than initially claimed......:jester:

[Warren Kiefer]

[QUOTE=Guest]Trump vs. Comey: Who will America trust? - CNNPolitics.com (http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/17/politics/trump-vs-comey-credibility/)

Let's see. Campaigner Donald Trump lied pretty much constantly on the campaign trail and now as President he continues to lie. Comey is often way too honest for his own good.[/QUOte

No contest, Comey is an amateur compared to Trump.

[Rockyrd]

This is beginning to sound like a SNL skit, but real.

This was during the meeting, without US media and with one party representing Russian spying.


"WASHINGTON — President Trump told Russian officials in the Oval Office this month that firing the F.B.I. director, James B. Comey, had relieved “great pressure” on him, according to a document summarizing the meeting.

“I just fired the head of the F.B.I. He was crazy, a real nut job,” Mr. Trump said, according to the document, which was read to The New York Times by an American official. “I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.”

Mr. Trump added, “I’m not under investigation.”

The conversation, during a May 10 meeting — the day after he fired Mr. Comey — reinforces the notion that Mr. Trump dismissed him primarily because of the bureau’s investigation into possible collusion between his campaign and Russian operatives. Mr. Trump said as much in one televised interview, but the White House has offered changing justifications for the firing."

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/05/19/us/politics/trump-russia-comey.html?_r=0

[Don Baldwin]

For the highlight above....hence he was/is more of a politician than initially claimed......:jester:

They're ALL politicians...that's what it takes to get into those positions.

When will you get that through your heads?

ALL high level government positions are filled with corrupt politicians. If you believe one of them is honest...it just means he a better liar.

[Rockyrd]

They're ALL politicians...that's what it takes to get into those positions.

When will you get that through your heads?

ALL high level government positions are filled with corrupt politicians. If you believe one of them is honest...it just means he a better liar.

That is total crap. This country has been blessed up to now with many fine people who are honest and patriotic.

There are exceptions, of course, but never have we had this lack of morals in our White House.

But, I think we can be very proud of most that have served us, both Democrat and Republican.

You not agreeing does not make it wrong. The dishonesty, open lying and deceit make everything tainted.