Russian Interference in US Election

[mickey100]

Former CIA chief says Russia interfered in US election and had contact with members of Donald Trump's campaign. How can anyone say this doesn't raise questions of collusion???:cus:

[MDLNB]

Former CIA chief says Russia interfered in US election and had contact with members of Donald Trump's campaign. How can anyone say this doesn't raise questions of collusion???:cus:

Please show us some evidence that the Russians had ANY influence in how someone voted or changed any votes. Since it did not happen, and since you have no problem with Obama spending taxpayer money to influence Israel's, why don't you talk about something relevant?

[wjboyer1]

Please show us some evidence that the Russians had ANY influence in how someone voted or changed any votes. Since it did not happen, and since you have no problem with Obama spending taxpayer money to influence Israel's, why don't you talk about something relevant?

Well, the investigation has begun, and many individuals who have access to evidence have indicated that there was Russian involvement with members of the Trump campaign, there was Russian support of Alt-Right, and Trump lies, and of Fake News against Clinton.

As your charge of Obama, another "spin" from your "sources" (alternate facts as they are):

The State Department had funded a series of grants in 2013-2014, totaling $349,276, which went to the One Voice Movement, which has Israeli and Palestinian branches: One Voice Israel and One Voice Palestine. (The grant period ended in November 2014.) These groups support peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine, and a two-state solution based on the borders of 1967.
In the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations report about the State Department’s action:“The Subcommittee found no evidence that OneVoice spent grant funds to influence the 2015 Israeli elections.

[ColdNoMore]

Former CIA chief says Russia interfered in US election and had contact with members of Donald Trump's campaign. How can anyone say this doesn't raise questions of collusion???:cus:

How?

Easy.

Just wait for the usual Trump Cultists to ooze out of the woodwork, then start counting the Un-American ways... they'll say they don't care. :ohdear:

[TheDude]

okay, so you get Pres Trump out... then VP Pence takes over... or, you get rid of Pence, then Tillerson takes over... or you get rid of Tillerson... basically, for the next 4 years the democrats will not be leading the greatest nation in the world. All they are doing is dividing. If there was such a problem then maybe handle it before the votes. What is the goal?

[ColdNoMore]

okay, so you get Pres Trump out... then VP Pence takes over... or, you get rid of Pence, then Tillerson takes over... or you get rid of Tillerson... basically, for the next 4 years the democrats will not be leading the greatest nation in the world. All they are doing is dividing. If there was such a problem then maybe handle it before the votes. What is the goal?

The "goal" for any patriotic American, should be to ensure that the leader of the free world...is NOT a lying, narcissistic, clueless blowhard.

Even if Trump's replacement is of the same party (and it would be), the key is to make sure that we have someone competent in the position.

[TheDude]

The "goal" for any patriotic American, should be to ensure that the leader of the free world...is NOT a lying, narcissistic, clueless blowhard.

Even if Trump's replacement is of the same party (and it would be), the key is to make sure that we have someone competent in the position.

So, hold up American congress from working on what is needed over a personally attack? You don't know him, you only know what the media says, no one knows him 24 hours a day. I think he is a work horse. What is a fair chance? I say 4 years, then if it doesn't work, get him out.

[TheDude]

The "goal" for any patriotic American, should be to ensure that the leader of the free world...is NOT a lying, narcissistic, clueless blowhard.

Even if Trump's replacement is of the same party (and it would be), the key is to make sure that we have someone competent in the position.

Who are you to speak for all patriotic Americans?

[Fraugoofy]

okay, so you get Pres Trump out... then VP Pence takes over... or, you get rid of Pence, then Tillerson takes over... or you get rid of Tillerson... basically, for the next 4 years the democrats will not be leading the greatest nation in the world. All they are doing is dividing. If there was such a problem then maybe handle it before the votes. What is the goal?
I thought if for some reason the President (Trump) is unable to serve, next in line is the VP (Pence) and then next in line is Speaker of the House (Paul Ryan).. is this incorrect? Thanks for the clarification...

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[TheDude]

Al Haig and the Reagan Assassination Attempt - "I'm in charge here" - Association for Diplomatic Studies and TrainingAssociation for Diplomatic Studies and Training (http://adst.org/2014/03/al-haig-and-the-reagan-assassination-attempt-im-in-charge-here/)

[TheDude]

I thought if for some reason the President (Trump) is unable to serve, next in line is the VP (Pence) and then next in line is Speaker of the House (Paul Ryan).. is this incorrect? Thanks for the clarification...

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[ColdNoMore]

I take offense of tap talk people posting people other than guest and should be deleted by moderators and tap talk should be banned.

Dude...offense noted. :D

[Fraugoofy]

I take offense of tap talk people posting people other than guest and should be deleted by moderators and tap talk should be banned.
The only way I can connect is via Tapatalk since TOTV doesn't have a mobile app for their website. I don't own a home computer. Not trying to offend anyone, just my way of using the technology that is available (or not). I have asked for years for TOTV to make an app... no one is anonymous in the age of internet, son...

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[wjboyer1]

I take offense of tap talk people posting people other than guest and should be deleted by moderators and tap talk should be banned.

And, according to the 1st Amendment, your request is denied.....I suppose you would ban books that are not published by major publishers as well.....

[wjboyer1]

Why The Russia Investigation Matters And Why You Should Care : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2017/05/24/529781094/why-the-russia-investigation-matters-and-why-you-should-care?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170524)

[Cedwards38]

Please show us some evidence that the Russians had ANY influence in how someone voted or changed any votes. Since it did not happen, and since you have no problem with Obama spending taxpayer money to influence Israel's, why don't you talk about something relevant?

Oh, we will show you some evidence, as soon as Special Prosecutor Mueller finishes his investigation and produces his report. You want relevant? That's going to be RELEVANT!

[Taltarzac725]

Why The Russia Investigation Matters And Why You Should Care : NPR (http://www.npr.org/2017/05/24/529781094/why-the-russia-investigation-matters-and-why-you-should-care?utm_source=facebook.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=npr&utm_term=nprnews&utm_content=20170524)

Thanks for putting in a link. :BigApplause:

[maureenod]

Oh, we will show you some evidence, as soon as Special Prosecutor Mueller finishes his investigation and produces his report. You want relevant? That's going to be RELEVANT!

If it walks like a duck, and quacks like a duck....

[Sandtrap328]

Oh, we will show you some evidence, as soon as Special Prosecutor Mueller finishes his investigation and produces his report. You want relevant? That's going to be RELEVANT!

Anyone want to bet an ice-cold Yeungling that Trump fires Mueller during the investigation - just like Tricky Dick fired Archibald Cox?

I see history repeating itself - even down to Trump resigning (declaring victory for himself) and leaving in a helicopter from the White House lawn.

[autumnspring]

Well, the investigation has begun, and many individuals who have access to evidence have indicated that there was Russian involvement with members of the Trump campaign, there was Russian support of Alt-Right, and Trump lies, and of Fake News against Clinton.

As your charge of Obama, another "spin" from your "sources" (alternate facts as they are):

The State Department had funded a series of grants in 2013-2014, totaling $349,276, which went to the One Voice Movement, which has Israeli and Palestinian branches: One Voice Israel and One Voice Palestine. (The grant period ended in November 2014.) These groups support peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine, and a two-state solution based on the borders of 1967.
In the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations report about the State Department’s action:“The Subcommittee found no evidence that OneVoice spent grant funds to influence the 2015 Israeli elections.

Palestinians is people who live in Palestine. For centuries that has been CHRISTIANS, JEWS AND MUSLIMS. Listed in politically correct for the liberals, alphabetical order.

The bible, both old and new testaments, WRITTEN CENTURIES BEFORE THE BIRTH OF MOHAMMAD, list this as the LAND OF THE JEWS.

Obama, by his words and his actions clearly favored the muslims.

By law, WE ARE RID OF OBAMA.

PEACE IN THE MIDDLE EAST? Clinton failed, Bush failed, Obama failed. Trump has been welcomed by Saudi Arabia and by Israel. Obama CHOSE, to disrespect Netanyahu. Obama stuck his nose into Israeli elections and a projected to be close election the VOTERS said loud and clear go ,,,,,,,, yourself Obama. There is an art to DEAL MAKING.
Obama is the poster child for what not to do.

BY LAW WE ARE RID OF OBAMA.

Bush, negotiated a peace deal in which Israel, the smallest nation in the middle east, agreed to give up land to the Palestinian MUSLIMS and the MUSLIMS insisted on control of the major fresh water supply for Israel so the deal died.

The Muslims of Palestine are historically Syrian. Bush proposed and the Israelis agreed to give land to these people. To essentially for the Christians and Jews to move and the deal was rejected.

BY LAW WE ARE RID OF OBAMA-THERE IS HOPE.

[autumnspring]

Well, the investigation has begun, and many individuals who have access to evidence have indicated that there was Russian involvement with members of the Trump campaign, there was Russian support of Alt-Right, and Trump lies, and of Fake News against Clinton.

As your charge of Obama, another "spin" from your "sources" (alternate facts as they are):

The State Department had funded a series of grants in 2013-2014, totaling $349,276, which went to the One Voice Movement, which has Israeli and Palestinian branches: One Voice Israel and One Voice Palestine. (The grant period ended in November 2014.) These groups support peace negotiations between Israel and Palestine, and a two-state solution based on the borders of 1967.
In the Permanent Subcommittee on Investigations report about the State Department’s action:“The Subcommittee found no evidence that OneVoice spent grant funds to influence the 2015 Israeli elections.

1. Why do you INSIST upon thinking the Russians would prefer Trump over Hillary? Hillary is far more of a socialist than is Trump. Bernie is by his own admission a socialist-.
Bernie CLAIMS he is left of Hillary-on what scale? Hilary like Bill will spin facts to the point that there is NO TRUTH OR HONOR LEFT
2. Lies-how can you use the term and still show your OBVIOUS Hillary support?
3. The boarders of 1967? WOW-there are BOOKS on the subject. Israel is listed in the bible, BOTH Old and New Testament, as the Land of the Jews. The Old Testament is almost 6000 years old, the New Testament is 2,000 year sold the Koran, The Muslim faith is just a few centuries.
As declared in the Bible, the Land of the Jews is roughly TWICE the current boarders. YOUR VIEW, YOUR THOUGHT is the same as saying the US should go back to it's boarders of? 1607?
The 1967 boarders were the result of not Israel attacking the muslims but of the muslims yet again attacking Israel.

There are 49 predominantly Muslim countries. That term predominantly Muslim country is a politically corrected distortion. Read and discover the number of Jews in any of these 49 countries or the number of Christians. Freedom of choice? The choice is be Muslim or we will kill you-AND THE WORLD ACCEPTS THIS. There is only ONE predominantly Jewish country in the world and that is Israel. YOU MAY FIND IT ENLIGHTENING that 20% of the population of Israel is Muslim

[MDLNB]

Oh, we will show you some evidence, as soon as Special Prosecutor Mueller finishes his investigation and produces his report. You want relevant? That's going to be RELEVANT!

Yep, there certainly IS evidence. Almost 3 million more votes for Hillary than Trump. It must be a Russian influence. But, I really didn't think that Soros was Russian. I think he is Hungarian, isn't he? And a WWII war criminal.

[Rockyrd]

1. Why do you INSIST upon thinking the Russians would prefer Trump over Hillary? Hillary is far more of a socialist than is Trump. Bernie is by his own admission a socialist-.
Bernie CLAIMS he is left of Hillary-on what scale? Hilary like Bill will spin facts to the point that there is NO TRUTH OR HONOR LEFT
2. Lies-how can you use the term and still show your OBVIOUS Hillary support?
3. The boarders of 1967? WOW-there are BOOKS on the subject. Israel is listed in the bible, BOTH Old and New Testament, as the Land of the Jews. The Old Testament is almost 6000 years old, the New Testament is 2,000 year sold the Koran, The Muslim faith is just a few centuries.
As declared in the Bible, the Land of the Jews is roughly TWICE the current boarders. YOUR VIEW, YOUR THOUGHT is the same as saying the US should go back to it's boarders of? 1607?
The 1967 boarders were the result of not Israel attacking the muslims but of the muslims yet again attacking Israel.

There are 49 predominantly Muslim countries. That term predominantly Muslim country is a politically corrected distortion. Read and discover the number of Jews in any of these 49 countries or the number of Christians. Freedom of choice? The choice is be Muslim or we will kill you-AND THE WORLD ACCEPTS THIS. There is only ONE predominantly Jewish country in the world and that is Israel. YOU MAY FIND IT ENLIGHTENING that 20% of the population of Israel is Muslim

Putin supported Trump for various reasons, HOWEVER, this intent by Trump supporters to cast this interference by Russia as less than evil is so wrong.

When it came down to two candidates, Clinton supported "interfering" in world affairs. Trump did not and thus Russia who wants to break NATO, the only thing standing between them and Europe domination which is their goal.

In addition, Putin has always been a real "market kind of guy". He believe his strength and everyones strength is in MONEY and POWER. He felt and still does he can "deal" with a Trump or Trump like candidate and this would never work with Clinton.

In addition, he hated Clinton for a lot of reasons, one being she was very very vocal about his fixing the Russian election in 2011.

I keep saying this also but it is one of those things Trump supporters continue to bring up. Russia did not influence one single vote that we are even remotely aware of. NOBODY ever said they did, EXCEPT Trump who claimed over 5 million illegals voted for Clinton. They ATTEMPTED to hold influence in anyway they could. Thus the hacks and timed releases.

They would have "supported" by tearing down Clinton for any Republican candidate. Of course we now hear that Trump campaign folks were discussing lifting of sanctions if he was elected and more to come on that certainly. There is NO DOUBT that Russian tried to influence our election process, and will again. I find it rather unpatriotic to not support this investigation as an american. I might add that Trump was not part of the original investigation but that criminal aspect was added based on findings in the original steps of the investigation.

As far as your comment...."YOU MAY FIND IT ENLIGHTENING that 20% of the population of Israel is Muslim"....how is this enlightening at all ? Most of the arab population of Israel is a result of war conquest and reset boundaries. They, the arab population, are NOT Israeli citizens. I believe that citizenship was offered to them but most if not all turned it down because it would recognize Israel as a soveriegn state.