So, The HR bill will not provide

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for coverage for e illegal aliens? Try reading the text in this link and see for yourself.



http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kMOdSkzbHLIi5bwv-c2ynwL0zcg3nXcLzcm44voXauowDj5mKfyfxlRuusc0PBEQpPd AHWRuO-_S7O-7wf1hq6uHK9Wy/CRS%20-%20Aliens%20and%20HR%203200.pdf

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for coverage for e illegal aliens? Try reading the text in this link and see for yourself.



http://f1.grp.yahoofs.com/v1/kMOdSkzbHLIi5bwv-c2ynwL0zcg3nXcLzcm44voXauowDj5mKfyfxlRuusc0PBEQpPd AHWRuO-_S7O-7wf1hq6uHK9Wy/CRS%20-%20Aliens%20and%20HR%203200.pdf

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Yoda

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Gnu,

Like Yoda, I found the link did not work. Can you check and update it?

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Try this link:

http://factcheck.org/2009/07/misleading-gop-health-care-claims/

H.R. 3200 includes a provision that specifically says that there will be no federal funds spent to cover illegal immigrants:

H.R. 3200: Sec 246 — NO FEDERAL PAYMENT FOR UNDOCUMENTED ALIENS

Nothing in this subtitle shall allow Federal payments for affordability credits on behalf of individuals who are not lawfully present in the United States.

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congress person said beginning with "however, there is nothing in the bill that states specifically they can't apply. And there is nothing in the bill that would preclude a decision to allow a given applicant. To the point they could even qualify for subsidy to help pay for the insurance if they could not afford it.

As we continue to learn, it is not just what the bill may state, but equally as important is what it does not state, hence LOOPHOLES, included and I would guess, intentionally. Lawyers go to school to wordsmith for a reason.

My opinion.

btk

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when my husband, a legal alien from belgium, was dying in tampa general hospital in 1995, a social worker asked me if he was an illigal alien...i said of course not as we had worked for months to organize his legal residency in this country...she sighed and responded that it was too bad, because if he were an illegal alien there are govt programs to cover him....you can imagine my reaction and i have never forgotten her words....

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CHACHA: It is stories like this that make my blood boil. Where is the fairness in all of this? I have a friend that come to Canada legally , she registered every two years as she was told. After being in Canada for almost 10 years she was deported back to Europe because one of the government agents gave her incorrect Information as to what she was to do.

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i am sure that many people suffer because of govt employee errors. the reason my husband was dying without ins was that first, his excellent ins from belgium would cover him anywhere in the world except the US because of our outlandish costs, and secondly, a social security bureaucrat had assured us that he could be covered on medicare under my work record but they neglected to say that i would have to be 62 before he could be covered. he was older than i and i was only 51 when he passed away. all insurance we tried to purchase converts to medicare supplement at 65 and he did not of course have medicare. to entrust the healthcare of our citizens to these paper pushers would be a terrible mistake....

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I found this you tube video interesting.
3:50 minutes
See what you think..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G44NCvNDLfc&feature=player_embedded

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Pick apart what you will. The base premise is correct and sound....the 85% insured today will be adversly affected in order to cover the 15% currently un-insured.
Makes NO SENSE.
Fix the ills of the working existing system:
Medicare abuse
insurance abuse
pharmaceutical company abuse

The develop a program for the 15%....more than funded by the above, plus lowering health care costs overall.

Once again the above is a specific, common sense, business like approach that the US Government is incapable of implementing. The above represents the needs of we the people first and that does not fly in Washington, DC.

Say no to overall reform....to :cus::cus: with Obama's nebulous objective to do "something/anything by year end!!!

My 2 cents (again).

btk