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Lottoguy
05-31-2017, 09:39 AM
Every day it seems more and more news is slowing coming out about President Donald Trump. It will only be a matter of time before many of you hear the names Bayrock and Felix Sater. Grab a cold one and watch this 45 minute documentary. Leave your comments after watching.
The Dubious Friends of Donald Trump - YouTube (https://youtu.be/1nf0K713Zv4)
FYI: I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. Totally independent and proud of that.
Rockyrd
05-31-2017, 10:06 AM
Every day it seems more and more news is slowing coming out about President Donald Trump. It will only be a matter of time before many of you hear the names Bayrock and Felix Sater. Grab a cold one and watch this 45 minute documentary. Leave your comments after watching.
The Dubious Friends of Donald Trump - YouTube (https://youtu.be/1nf0K713Zv4)
FYI: I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. Totally independent and proud of that.
Thanks for the link. These names keep popping up when you really look at Trump.
This from LA Times a few months ago...
“Working from a 24th-floor office in Manhattan’s Trump Tower, Felix Sater spent years trying to line up lucrative deals in the United States, Russia and elsewhere in Europe with Donald Trump’s real estate organization.
For much of that time, according to court records and U.S. officials, Sater also worked as a confidential informant for the FBI, and — he says — U.S. intelligence.
In January, Sater and Trump’s personal attorney, Michael Cohen, met in a New York hotel with a Ukrainian lawmaker who asked them to bring the White House a pro-Russian peace deal for Ukraine.
“I was only trying to stop a war,” Sater said of his role linking the lawmaker, Andrei Artemenko, with Cohen."
Trump business associate led double life as FBI informant — and more, he says - LA Times (http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-pol-sater-trump-20170223-story.html)
I have said it many times, and I appreciate your input. I have looked into and read about our President for many years. I feel bad for those who trusted him and looked to him as some sort of savior. He should have been stopped during the primary by the Republican Party.
There is so very much more to come on this person. Those who wonder why our President would not want an investigation into any foreign government, let alone Russia, will get answers. As will those who wonder why so adamant on tax returns, and why he has made numerous attempts to squash a very much needed investigation, or even why he bad mouths everyone but Russia.
Thanks for the link. I have not watched the video yet, but am well aware of the names you mention.
Notice the link to Trumps personal lawyer in the article, and of course in the most recent news items.
My fear is, knowing Trump, he will make this ugly. We are already losing our credibility in the world, our allies don't trust us, and a bitter fight as this develops spells doom.
Rockyrd
05-31-2017, 10:15 AM
Trump, now says, he doesn't know this man..but this exert is revealing.....
"He appears to have been close to Mr. Trump. He escorted Ivanka Trump and Donald Jr. to Moscow in 2006 in pursuit of deals and flew to Colorado with Mr. Trump. By 2007, Mr. Henry reports, Bayrock and its associates had partnered with Mr. Trump to pursue “more than $2 billion in Trump-branded deals.” In 2008, Donald Trump Jr. told a real estate conference that “Russians make up a pretty disproportionate cross-section of a lot of our assets” and that “we see a lot of money pouring in from Russia.”
None of the Bayrock deals seem to have been successful. The most spectacular failure involving Mr. Sater, Mr. Trump and Bayrock was the Trump Soho hotel condominium in lower Manhattan, a marquee Trump effort launched in 2006 amid much spectacle. By 2010, a civil lawsuit alleging fraudulent enticement in sales of condos was gaining traction and the Manhattan district attorney had started exploring criminal charges. The New York Times has an excellent rundown of the complicated case here. Mr. Trump settled and the criminal case was closed. Meanwhile, another Sater project, Trump Tower in Fort Lauderdale, Florida, went broke.
Who Is Felix Sater? - Judicial Watch (http://www.judicialwatch.org/bulletins/who-is-felix-sater/)
Thanks again for bringing the you tube video, which again, I have not seen, but your post brought back to me some of those slimes who are/were buddies of Trump.
By the way, Sater will never be considered a "good guy", and the Judicial Watch gives a great overview
dirtbanker
05-31-2017, 10:42 AM
You talking to yourself again??
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Rockyrd
05-31-2017, 10:59 AM
You talking to yourself again??
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AND to any americans on here who value truth and democracy and give a damn about truth.
You folks seem to adore the person Trump way above your country because he surely is doing what he wants FOR HIS AND HIS FAMILIES OWN GOOD, with your support.
So hopefully there are some americans out there who value telling the truth, not pushing our allies away and embracing what is Russia. I did not say that......the Russia comment for a long time but it appears that it his country of choice. They want NATO to be weak and he is on it.....they want to push a hard right agenda and he is on it.....they want to interfere in our country and he is ok with it and does not want anyone to look into it, and in fact has never said he opposed it...They want our country as divided as possible and fragmented and he is doing his very best....they despise a free press and he has called the media and free press "the enemy", so hopefully there are others who might pay attention to his con of you and others who simply cannot or refuse to become knowledgeable on world and domestic affairs.
Your world is about the election 6 months ago, Clinton and Obama and nothing else, and by nothing else, I mean our country which is at risk
autumnspring
05-31-2017, 11:03 AM
Every day it seems more and more news is slowing coming out about President Donald Trump. It will only be a matter of time before many of you hear the names Bayrock and Felix Sater. Grab a cold one and watch this 45 minute documentary. Leave your comments after watching.
The Dubious Friends of Donald Trump - YouTube (https://youtu.be/1nf0K713Zv4)
FYI: I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. Totally independent and proud of that.
I do wonder why. Your CHOICE was to throw your vote away. There will never be a perfect candidate-someone who will agree with you on every issue.
I did not vote for Obama. Yet, he was my president. I would have been proud had he been a success. I keep telling people don't blame me-I DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.
Yet, I am still stuck with the mess he created or if you choose allowed to continue.
I did AND I DO choose Trump over Hillary. So if it makes you feel better you are welcome to blame me. Just be sure to credit me with the GOOD as well as the BAD.
Rockyrd
05-31-2017, 11:55 AM
I do wonder why. Your CHOICE was to throw your vote away. There will never be a perfect candidate-someone who will agree with you on every issue.
I did not vote for Obama. Yet, he was my president. I would have been proud had he been a success. I keep telling people don't blame me-I DID NOT VOTE FOR OBAMA.
Yet, I am still stuck with the mess he created or if you choose allowed to continue.
I did AND I DO choose Trump over Hillary. So if it makes you feel better you are welcome to blame me. Just be sure to credit me with the GOOD as well as the BAD.
You are responding to the OP as if it were me. It's not.
I threw no vote away and since I have never ever questioned anyone's choice, I really resent it that you brought it up. The worst thing I have said about Trump voters was I felt sorry for them.
Your opinion of my vote is noted, but as much as you count wins and losses, I count on what's best for my country. I considered both Trump and Clinton to be terrible, horrendous choices, and even though you mock me, my decision was easy under the circumstances.
I blame nobody for Trump...he did a great job of conning, and to add to that. I have always expressed sympathy, and nothing more to Trump voters. I understand what grabbed them.
I do recall Woodward and Bernstein, who exposed Nixon, and are really not on the same page as each other politically, during the primary wondering where the investigative journalists were on Trump.
What I find demoralizing is, and will use this forum as an example.
Trump supporters never express much support FOR Trump, more a defense of him, and hatred for Clinton/Obama. They look at facts, they hear facts, they are learning what I and others have been saying....he was a crooked. Deceitful, lying man for 70 years. He still is that same man.
There was a point where I really thought...ok, I don't like him, but the country is first...maybe. But his self absorption has not allowed any growth, in fact he is worse. Looking at any and all Presidents, this man has set so many low standards, it is hard to comprehend.
I do not "blame" anyone for their vote, although you seem to..Again based on hate of Clinton. I choose not to vote against but for, and if that is the underdog, so be it.
I DO blame those that despite this "train wreck" of a presidency would still expend effort to defend Trump.
MDLNB
05-31-2017, 03:40 PM
Every day it seems more and more news is slowing coming out about President Donald Trump. It will only be a matter of time before many of you hear the names Bayrock and Felix Sater. Grab a cold one and watch this 45 minute documentary. Leave your comments after watching.
The Dubious Friends of Donald Trump - YouTube (https://youtu.be/1nf0K713Zv4)
FYI: I didn't vote for Trump or Hillary. Totally independent and proud of that.
Glad you are proud of LOSING. Everyone needs to have a good sense of self esteem. By the way, Independent in NOT a party. It means you can vote for either candidate, but actually you can if you are either party also. It just means that you are not affiliated with any party. It means that you do not belong. It means you have an excuse if someone does not like who the winner is and you may or may not have voted for them. You are able to say that you are Independent. My brother is an Independent and has voted every election for Republicans only.
Rocky and Chi are Republicans that put down Republicans. Rocky said he did not vote for a legitimate candidate. Chi is registered as a Republican but disparages everything Republican.
You are an Independent. Congrats.
Rockyrd
05-31-2017, 03:43 PM
Glad you are proud of LOSING. Everyone needs to have a good sense of self esteem. By the way, Independent in NOT a party. It means you can vote for either candidate, but actually you can if you are either party also. It just means that you are not affiliated with any party. It means that you do not belong. It means you have an excuse if someone does not like who the winner is and you may or may not have voted for them. You are able to say that you are Independent. My brother is an Independent and has voted every election for Republicans only.
Rocky and Chi are Republicans that put down Republicans. Rocky said he did not vote for a legitimate candidate. Chi is registered as a Republican but disparages everything Republican.
You are an Independent. Congrats.
WHY DO YOU INVENT THINGS ? SERIOUSLY, you need help...you just make things up.
You have absolutely no idea of what you are saying.
You obviously are one of those that simply trolls the boards. YOU never read anything presented...YOU ARE A DEFINITIVE TROLL,
AND FRANKLY, NOT EVEN VERY GOOD AT IT.
MDLNB
05-31-2017, 03:43 PM
You are responding to the OP as if it were me. It's not.
I threw no vote away and since I have never ever questioned anyone's choice, I really resent it that you brought it up. The worst thing I have said about Trump voters was I felt sorry for them.
Your opinion of my vote is noted, but as much as you count wins and losses, I count on what's best for my country. I considered both Trump and Clinton to be terrible, horrendous choices, and even though you mock me, my decision was easy under the circumstances.
I blame nobody for Trump...he did a great job of conning, and to add to that. I have always expressed sympathy, and nothing more to Trump voters. I understand what grabbed them.
I do recall Woodward and Bernstein, who exposed Nixon, and are really not on the same page as each other politically, during the primary wondering where the investigative journalists were on Trump.
What I find demoralizing is, and will use this forum as an example.
Trump supporters never express much support FOR Trump, more a defense of him, and hatred for Clinton/Obama. They look at facts, they hear facts, they are learning what I and others have been saying....he was a crooked. Deceitful, lying man for 70 years. He still is that same man.
There was a point where I really thought...ok, I don't like him, but the country is first...maybe. But his self absorption has not allowed any growth, in fact he is worse. Looking at any and all Presidents, this man has set so many low standards, it is hard to comprehend.
I do not "blame" anyone for their vote, although you seem to..Again based on hate of Clinton. I choose not to vote against but for, and if that is the underdog, so be it.
I DO blame those that despite this "train wreck" of a presidency would still expend effort to defend Trump.
You're pathetic. You are a crybaby that feels that your vote mattered. It didn't. All you did was make yourself feel better by throwing your vote away. That way, no matter who was elected, you feel legitimate when you disparage them.
You are miserable. But, keep telling yourself that you are doing the right thing. Maybe you can at least convince yourself.
Rockyrd
05-31-2017, 03:45 PM
You're pathetic. You are a crybaby that feels that your vote mattered. It didn't. All you did was make yourself feel better by throwing your vote away. That way, no matter who was elected, you feel legitimate when you disparage them.
You are miserable. But, keep telling yourself that you are doing the right thing. Maybe you can at least convince yourself.
Are you still on the election....IT IS OVER....6 MONTHS NOW, IN CASE YOU DIDNT KNOW THAT.
Did you read the thread....do you care at all about what is presented ?
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