Paris Agreement

[Chi-Town]

We're out but not alone. Trump has two allies.


Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Representative

"Syria and Nicaragua are the only nations that didn't sign the Paris Agreement. Nicaragua said it wasn't tough enough."

in a tweet – Thursday, June 1, 2017



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[Allegiance]

Incredible points, thank you.

[ColdNoMore]

We're out but not alone. Trump has two allies.


Debbie Wasserman Schultz
Representative

"Syria and Nicaragua are the only nations that didn't sign the Paris Agreement. Nicaragua said it wasn't tough enough."

in a tweet – Thursday, June 1, 2017


So basically, we are now officially aligned...with Syria? :22yikes:


Not even in the genre of science fiction...could this have been predicted. :ohdear:

[MDLNB]

Apparently, hysteria rules the day with liberals, AGAIN. Why not listen to what Trump said, since you all seem to dwell on his tweets. He said that the deal was not good and that he wants to renegotiate a new deal where America comes before the rest of world. He has OUR interest at heart, not some delusion of being emperor of the world like Obama wished to become. Besides, America leads the world in emissions control and advancement. Learn a bit more of the situation before having a hissy fit.

[maureenod]

All you have to do is read what he did in Scotland. When he built his golf course he promised jobs, jobs, jobs. WHERE ARE THEY???

Some neighbors, that family have been on their land for 100s of years did not want to sell. What did vindictive Trump do?? He built 18 foot walls around their homes, and actually sent them a bill.

For years Trump has been fighting the erection of wind turbines, miles out to sea, BUT he can still view them. Of course, he as his "signature name calling", bully attitude when dealing with local government.

On the other side, as I posted before, his golf course in Ireland is falling into the sea. He wants to build a wall 2 miles long. Applied for permits claiming GLOBAL WARMING Doesn't care what impact it has on the sea, beach, marine life OR local farmers.

He is all about GREED AND ME, ME , ME.

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[Rockyrd]

So basically, we are now officially aligned...with Syria? :22yikes:


Not even in the genre of science fiction...could this have been predicted. :ohdear:

He is finding out that he has made us followers now..not leaders, and nobody is any longer looking to our country for any kind of leadership


"France, Germany and Italy have no intention of renegotiating the Paris climate agreement, their leaders said Thursday in response to U.S. President Donald Trump’s announcement that he intends to withdraw and wants to broker another deal."

France, Germany and Italy: Paris deal ‘cannot be renegotiated’ – POLITICO (http://www.politico.eu/article/france-germany-and-italy-paris-deal-cannot-be-renegotiated/)

"European leaders dismissed Donald Trump’s claim that the Paris climate accord can be renegotiated after the US president announced he will pull out of the deal struck in 2015 to seek better terms.

Shortly after Trump’s announcement the leaders of France, Germany and Italy released a joint statement rejecting Trump’s assertion that the climate deal can be redrafted."

World leaders reject Trump's claim Paris climate deal can be renegotiated | Environment | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2017/jun/01/trump-withdraw-paris-climate-deal-world-leaders-react)

"Three events in recent days dramatize the challenges facing the free world resulting from President Trump's lack of global leadership, the international stature of German Chancellor Angela Merkel and the dynamism of the newly-elected President of France, Emmanuel Macron."

OPINION: Countering Trump, Merkel and Macron look to lead free world | TheHill (http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blog/foreign-policy/335603-countering-trump-merkel-and-macron-look-to-lead-free-world)

"President Donald Trump may be calling his first foreign trip a "great success for America," but his stormy encounter with NATO leaders has pundits and world leaders shaking their heads in dismay.

An unnamed state department official reportedly said Trump acted like a "drunk tourist," and MSNBC political analyst Joan Walsh took it a step further saying, Trump "defeated the first woman president but he's now made a woman the leader of the free world because it's Angela Merkel right now. He has abdicated."

[Rockyrd]

"America will probably never send a woman like Merkel to the White House. A research scientist by training, with a doctorate in physical chemistry, she’s super smart and so unsexy she makes Hillary Clinton look hot. Totally devoid of glamour, Merkel has something more important: character, principle, and the courage to show contempt for an American president who lacks all of the above."

Merkel, not Trump, rules on the world stage - The Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/05/31/merkel-not-trump-rules-world-stage/aM9Z3nqpRCAuwlWheb2K4K/story.html)

We have now passed that.."we could be the laughing stock of the world" direct to

We are the laughing stock of the world

Does President Trump really believe these countries will trade with us without eventual tariffs (higher prices to consumer) being applied ?

[Taltarzac725]

Ivanka Trump and Rex Tillerson tried to get the Donald to stay in the Paris Climate Agreement but were beaten by Bannon and Pruitt in their persuasion power over Trump.

[ColdNoMore]

"America will probably never send a woman like Merkel to the White House. A research scientist by training, with a doctorate in physical chemistry, she’s super smart and so unsexy she makes Hillary Clinton look hot. Totally devoid of glamour, Merkel has something more important: character, principle, and the courage to show contempt for an American president who lacks all of the above."

Merkel, not Trump, rules on the world stage - The Boston Globe (https://www.bostonglobe.com/opinion/2017/05/31/merkel-not-trump-rules-world-stage/aM9Z3nqpRCAuwlWheb2K4K/story.html)

We have now passed that.."we could be the laughing stock of the world" direct to

We are the laughing stock of the world

Does President Trump really believe these countries will trade with us without eventual tariffs (higher prices to consumer) being applied ?

This, of all of his whacked out actions and blathering...may have the largest silver lining.

He has now alienated a huge swath of American companies and businesses (not to mention concerned American citizens)...and will hopefully reap what he has sowed. :thumbup:

His sociopathic and narcissistic ego...WILL be his ultimate undoing. :popcorn:

[Buffalo Jim]

MSNBD Talking Points of the day : see above .

Let`s ignore the fact that :
1] OB never put the " Treaty " to a Congressional vote .
2] No restrictions on China but toughest standards on USA
3] US Taxpayers required to send Billions to China , India and other Nations to assist them with " Green Efforts ".
But hey let`s never ever let the facts stand in the way of another opportunity for " Trump Derangement " !
Fire away uninformed overly emotional Dims !

[wjboyer1]

msnbd talking points of the day : See above .

Let`s ignore the fact that :
1] ob never put the " treaty " to a congressional vote .
2] no restrictions on china but toughest standards on usa
3] us taxpayers required to send billions to china , india and other nations to assist them with " green efforts ".
But hey let`s never ever let the facts stand in the way of another opportunity for " trump derangement " !
Fire away uninformed overly emotional dims !

1) its not a treaty
2) all goals are voluntary, but since the usa is the worst in green house gas production, they have the most to do
3) that is a fallicy

[rubicon]

The Paris Accord's basic premise is on economic gain and supporting measures to effectively slow climate change.

The proponents to this Acord claim the economic benefit results from restricting access to the most abundant, reliable and affordable fuel sources . Yet Germany's aggressive expansion of wind and solar caused the magazine Der Spiegel to declare in 2013 that electricity has become a "luxury good" for Germans

Consider also that those with commercial interests strongly support the Paris Accord have all created programs to exploit and game the system by passing through the costs of the climate change agenda (Think/ Remember Enron).

It will slow climate change .Yet none of the nations to the Accord declared a measurable impact on climate change from either business or desired policies.

So does the Paris Accord spur a Us economy? Or is the US maintaining economic advantage by not subjecting itself to the arduous requirements of this agreement ?

The climate change agenda in large part is a propaganda scheme for making profit for a very few.

We all like green but we want it to be safe, effective and economical. The sky actually is not falling

Personal Best Regards:

[Taltarzac725]

What is the Paris climate agreement and what happens next? | WIRED UK (http://www.wired.co.uk/article/what-is-paris-agreement-on-climate-change)

Do some research on the Paris Agreement rather than listening to the Trump trolls.

[Taltarzac725]

Trump Announces US Pull Out From Climate Pact << CBS Pittsburgh (http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/06/01/trump-paris-climate-accord/)

Let's hope that our cities, county and state governments do the right thing for our future generations and take measures to curb pollution which is hurting our environment now. And that many of the Fortune 500 companies also get on board with this.

[larbud]

.....The Sun can't get through the smog in China so their solar panels are useless
The nations in the agreement are angry because they will not have access to our money. Better to let the market solve the climate problem. More efficient than government involvement. When you get India and China on board, then we can talk.

[Taltarzac725]

Paris Agreement: India, China step up as U.S. backs away from climate pledges - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/as-us-backs-away-from-climate-pledges-india-and-china-step-up/2017/06/01/59ccb494-16e4-4d47-a881-c5bd0922c3db_story.html?utm_term=.2e9a29c300e9)

This is interesting.

[Don Baldwin]

Paris Agreement: India, China step up as U.S. backs away from climate pledges - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/asia_pacific/as-us-backs-away-from-climate-pledges-india-and-china-step-up/2017/06/01/59ccb494-16e4-4d47-a881-c5bd0922c3db_story.html?utm_term=.2e9a29c300e9)

This is interesting.

Oh yes...SURE it is...the biggest polluters are going to "step up" and fix the climate change problem...

I have a bridge...you'd LOVE it...people pay you to cross it...wanna get in on it? I can sell you a "certified" share...

[Chi-Town]

MSNBD Talking Points of the day : see above .

Let`s ignore the fact that :
1] OB never put the " Treaty " to a Congressional vote .
2] No restrictions on China but toughest standards on USA
3] US Taxpayers required to send Billions to China , India and other Nations to assist them with " Green Efforts ".
But hey let`s never ever let the facts stand in the way of another opportunity for " Trump Derangement " !
Fire away uninformed overly emotional Dims !
BJ, good to see you back buddy. Sure have missed you. Don't be a stranger.

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[autumnspring]

All you have to do is read what he did in Scotland. When he built his golf course he promised jobs, jobs, jobs. WHERE ARE THEY???

Some neighbors, that family have been on their land for 100s of years did not want to sell. What did vindictive Trump do?? He built 18 foot walls around their homes, and actually sent them a bill.

For years Trump has been fighting the erection of wind turbines, miles out to sea, BUT he can still view them. Of course, he as his "signature name calling", bully attitude when dealing with local government.

On the other side, as I posted before, his golf course in Ireland is falling into the sea. He wants to build a wall 2 miles long. Applied for permits claiming GLOBAL WARMING Doesn't care what impact it has on the sea, beach, marine life OR local farmers.

He is all about GREED AND ME, ME , ME.

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You are BLINDED by your hatred of Trump

RE: walls
Are you aware that Hillary had a wall built around her home
AND THE AMERICAN TAXPAYER PAID FOR IT.

RE: Windfarms.
Personally I do not find them ugly-sort of like a whirligig.
But, in truth, perhaps if there was one in my backyard, my view might change. Unrelated to Trump, on Long Island, people were all bent out of shape over a proposed off shore windfarm blocking the views from their multi million dollar homes-far as I know it has been blocked. For that matter, people on long island have blocked a liquid natural gas terminal also off shore,

RE: Eminent domain
Personal experience-we had a lot on Staten Island. It was between two nice homes. A reasonable guess as to value
when NYC tried to seize it by eminent domain was about 25-30,000. The city wanted to steal it for 6,000. Long story short. I was contacted by an atty. He got me 20,000 for a property worth 25 and he took 5,000 in fees.
OH and then NYC took over ten years to pay me the money-WITH NO INTEREST PAID.

WHEN, YOU GO TO COURT, WHEN YOU DEAL WITH GOVERNMENT, THERE ARE ALWAYS AT LEAST TWO OPPOSING PARTIES AND EITHER WILL BE ACCUSED OF A ME, ME, ME

[Allegiance]

What is the Paris climate agreement and what happens next? | WIRED UK (http://www.wired.co.uk/article/what-is-paris-agreement-on-climate-change)

Do some research on the Paris Agreement rather than listening to the Trump trolls.
You have no love life, no job, nothing but time. DID YOU READ THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT OR JUST TALKING POINT LIBERAL SITES WACKADOODLE?

[Allegiance]

The Paris Agreement - main page (http://unfccc.int/paris_agreement/items/9485.php)


Here it is for the wackadoodles. Spend a couple hours and report back the exact quantifiable part of the agreement you like the best.

[Taltarzac725]

You have no love life, no job, nothing but time. DID YOU READ THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT OR JUST TALKING POINT LIBERAL SITES WACKADOODLE?

What makes you think I have no love life? Allegiance. *******! And I am very busy on something. I would not mention a girlfriend on TOTV because she would be none of you people's business. Certainly not many of the insulting people on the TOTV Political Forum.

[Taltarzac725]

No, Trump, China and India Aren’t Stealing Our Coal Jobs (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/no-trump-china-and-india-arent-stealing-our-coal-jobs.html)

Back to the actual subject of this thread rather than the stupid attacks on the person posting.

[Allegiance]

No, Trump, China and India Aren’t Stealing Our Coal Jobs (http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/06/no-trump-china-and-india-arent-stealing-our-coal-jobs.html)

Back to the actual subject of this thread rather than the stupid attacks on the person posting.
So you are too busy to look over the actual agreement, but you read every talking point liberal site?

[Chi-Town]

You have no love life, no job, nothing but time. DID YOU READ THE ACTUAL AGREEMENT OR JUST TALKING POINT LIBERAL SITES WACKADOODLE?
Hey Al, we've got Screamin' Susie yelling all the time and now you yelling at Tal. Whst gives? If Tal is so deep into your head let BIG POPPA deal with it. Silencio, por favor.

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[Allegiance]

Hey Al, we've got Screamin' Susie yelling all the time and now you yelling at Tal. Whst gives? If Tal is so deep into your head let BIG POPPA deal with it. Silencio, por favor.

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We don't want to anger papi. You might be sad he never played for the cubs.

[Allegiance]

Hey Al, we've got Screamin' Susie yelling all the time and now you yelling at Tal. Whst gives? If Tal is so deep into your head let BIG POPPA deal with it. Silencio, por favor.

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Vocal woman are sometimes incredibly sexy.

Don't spoil how I visualize Susie.

When harry met sally 'I'll have what she's having' - YouTube (https://youtu.be/p9-PjBTn7Ec)

[Taltarzac725]

http://unfccc.int/resource/docs/2015/cop21/eng/l09r01.pdf

The text of the Paris Agreement.

Paris Agreement - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Paris_Agreement)

[Taltarzac725]

Hey Al, we've got Screamin' Susie yelling all the time and now you yelling at Tal. Whst gives? If Tal is so deep into your head let BIG POPPA deal with it. Silencio, por favor.

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Bigpoppa does look like one of the posters kicked off of TOTV. David Ortiz - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ortiz) I wonder what David Ortiz would think of this jerk?

[Allegiance]

Bigpoppa does look like one of the posters kicked off of TOTV. David Ortiz - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Ortiz) I wonder what David Ortiz would think of this jerk?
Racist

[MDLNB]

What makes you think I have no love life? Allegiance. *******! And I am very busy on something. I would not mention a girlfriend on TOTV because she would be none of you people's business. Certainly not many of the insulting people on the TOTV Political Forum.

Hey, tweeting Ivanka Trump does not count.............:a20:

[Taltarzac725]

Hey, tweeting Ivanka Trump does not count.............:a20:

I Facebook her along with many other women.

[MDLNB]

Well, Trump saved American Taxpayers a couple trillion bucks by backing out of the Paris agreement. Thank you President Trump. It was garbage anyway. How any "educated" liberal could go along with it, is beyond logic. America is already doing better than the other countries, WITHOUT the stupid agreement that does not hold anyone else to the same standards. The agreement is just Obama's way to spread the wealth, period. Obama was an idiot. Did I say "was?"

[Chi-Town]

Vocal woman are sometimes incredibly sexy.

Don't spoil how I visualize Susie.

When harry met sally 'I'll have what she's having' - YouTube (https://youtu.be/p9-PjBTn7Ec)
I was thinking more of Susie Essman from Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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[Taltarzac725]

I was thinking more of Susie Essman from Curb Your Enthusiasm.

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Love that show. Not so much Susie Essman's character.

[MDLNB]

I Facebook her along with many other women.

You facebook with other women? :shrug:

[Allegiance]

You facebook with other women? :shrug:
There is a very good chance Tal is a sterile transgender.

[Allegiance]

Not that there is anything wrong with that.

[Buffalo Jim]

1) its not a treaty
2) all goals are voluntary, but since the usa is the worst in green house gas production, they have the most to do
3) that is a fallicy

Ever been to China ? I have and you can`t breathe the air !

No birds at all within the city of Bejing everyone wears a mask to try to filter the pollution out of the air they breathe .
However the US is the most guilty ! Yeah right !

[Don Baldwin]

Ever been to China ? I have and you can`t breathe the air !

No birds at all within the city of Bejing everyone wears a mask to try to filter the pollution out of the air they breathe .
However the US is the most guilty ! Yeah right !

Because they sit in front of their TV and believe what the talking head tells them.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Does anyone care that The Paris Agreement will do almost nothing to reduce global warming and will cost the U.S. trillions while shifting jobs from The U.S. to China as well as allowing China to continue to pollute?

Watch this. and before you start going off about how Prager U is not an actual university and it is a conservative biased site, please give us some facts that show this is wrong.

The Paris Climate Agreement Won't Change the Climate - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47bNzLj5E_Q)

[Taltarzac725]

Does anyone care that The Paris Agreement will do almost nothing to reduce global warming and will cost the U.S. trillions while shifting jobs from The U.S. to China as well as allowing China to continue to pollute?

Watch this. and before you start going off about how Prager U is not an actual university and it is a conservative biased site, please give us some facts that show this is wrong.

The Paris Climate Agreement Won't Change the Climate - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47bNzLj5E_Q)

Bjorn Lomborg - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg)

Would have to really look into where this man is getting his information from and how he makes his calculations and the like.

[Allegiance]

Does anyone care that The Paris Agreement will do almost nothing to reduce global warming and will cost the U.S. trillions while shifting jobs from The U.S. to China as well as allowing China to continue to pollute?

Watch this. and before you start going off about how Prager U is not an actual university and it is a conservative biased site, please give us some facts that show this is wrong.

The Paris Climate Agreement Won't Change the Climate - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47bNzLj5E_Q)
Please don't strain the little liberal brain with logic.

Obama's goal was the redistribution of american wealth elsewhere.

His legacy is horrific, and just wait till the spying and leaks get fully revealed.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Bjorn Lomborg - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bj%C3%B8rn_Lomborg)

Would have to really look into where this man is getting his information from and how he makes his calculations and the like.

See I knew someone just couldn't do it. Instead of presenting facts that dispute what is presented you simply attack the source.

What is he saying that isn't true?

Do you deny that he is an expert in the field? The Wikipedia article that you posted seems to verify that he is.

[Taltarzac725]

See I knew someone just couldn't do it. Instead of presenting facts that dispute what is presented you simply attack the source.

What is he saying that isn't true?

Do you deny that he is an expert in the field? The Wikipedia article that you posted seems to verify that he is.

That video posted is by this man. Who just makes a lot of assertions in it. He does not present the facts as you usually are supposed to say how you got those facts if these are just projections of the rise of temperatures in the next 100 years. That's speculation though.

And is he an expert in global warming? No he is not.

[Chi-Town]

So many ways to get around Trump's idiocy.

https://weather.com/science/environment/news/mayors-governors-denounce-trump-climate-accord-decision

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[Taltarzac725]

So many ways to get around Trump's idiocy.

https://weather.com/science/environment/news/mayors-governors-denounce-trump-climate-accord-decision

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I would think that many meteorologists know quite a bit about global warming and its effects.

global warming and its effects - Google Scholar (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=global+warming+and+its+effects&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjV4KD476HUAhXB6iYKHWC4CUoQgQMIKTAA)

[wjboyer1]

FactCheck.org - A Project of The Annenberg Public Policy Center (http://www.factcheck.org)

[wjboyer1]

I would think that many meteorologists know quite a bit about global warming and its effects.

global warming and its effects - Google Scholar (https://scholar.google.com/scholar?q=global+warming+and+its+effects&hl=en&as_sdt=0&as_vis=1&oi=scholart&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjV4KD476HUAhXB6iYKHWC4CUoQgQMIKTAA)

Actually, Climatologists would know much more than Meteorologists......Climatologist Vs. Meteorologist | Chron.com (http://work.chron.com/climatologist-vs-meteorologist-16462.html)

[Taltarzac725]

Actually, Climatologists would know much more than Meteorologists......Climatologist Vs. Meteorologist | Chron.com (http://work.chron.com/climatologist-vs-meteorologist-16462.html)

Well I like the content of that article. I had a TV weatherman in one of my History classes at the U of Nevada, Reno as a fellow student. Probably in Renaissance History class. He was quite fun and a smart guy. Had learned meteorology in the Armed Forces. Navy?

[Abby10]

That video posted is by this man. Who just makes a lot of assertions in it. He does not present the facts as you usually are supposed to say how you got those facts if these are just projections of the rise of temperatures in the next 100 years. That's speculation though.

And is he an expert in global warming? No he is not.

In just 17 minutes - time difference between this post and your previous post - you have already come to a conclusion about this man's credibility?? Wow!

[Calfugitt@yahoo.com]

Finally some rational thought.

[dbussone]

1) its not a treaty

2) all goals are voluntary, but since the usa is the worst in green house gas production, they have the most to do

3) that is a fallicy



It was intended to be a treaty, but BHO knew he could not get it past the Senate. Hence the famous executive order.


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[dbussone]

That video posted is by this man. Who just makes a lot of assertions in it. He does not present the facts as you usually are supposed to say how you got those facts if these are just projections of the rise of temperatures in the next 100 years. That's speculation though.

And is he an expert in global warming? No he is not.



Besides assertions, Al Gore made a documentary. And that makes HIM an expert?


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[Mogensen]

None of this makes any difference as we are currently committed to this agreement for the next 3 1/2 years and then guess what??? It is re election time which is what his move is all about--me-me-me.

[GaryKoca]

Talking about getting our facts straight. The idea that we would have to subsidize China is a complete myth. I would be upset about that too. But after doing some research, the truth is that every country decides for itself what amount of money it wants to spend on this effort. So we would not be subsidizing China. Sounds like another myth from Fox news.

[MDLNB]

It was intended to be a treaty, but BHO knew he could not get it past the Senate. Hence the famous executive order.


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Exactly, and it was his means to deplete our tax revenues by another trillion or more for frivolous NOTHING.

[MDLNB]

Talking about getting our facts straight. The idea that we would have to subsidize China is a complete myth. I would be upset about that too. But after doing some research, the truth is that every country decides for itself what amount of money it wants to spend on this effort. So we would not be subsidizing China. Sounds like another myth from Fox news.

And India, don't forget. Gotta love it when those that have no source for their information will disparage FOX because their news is "conservative."

The problem with you all, is that you don't seem to understand that the other news channels do NOT give the complete array of news. They filter it to fit their agenda. And why not? After all, if you check out many of them, their view is subsidized by Soros. Not a conspiracy theory, because you can GOOGLE his monetary influence in our country to see long lists of his collaboration. Remember, FOX gets their news from AP and Reuters, just like other news outlets. The difference is that the others do not provide as much of the news.

Argue all you wish, but your denying it does not make your view fact. Try to learn how to discern the difference between NEWS and Commentary before running amok.

[dsettl]

400 Billion from US tax payers 0.2 degree by 2200 China and India are burning coal and can set there own limits Yes POTUS

[spexdr]

Let me preface this by saying I believe president Trump is a man lacking in moral character. There is much I don't like about him. But let's deal with the president we've got. I just read the Paris climate accords and Trump is right that they are vague and offer suggestions with no clear metrics as guides to keeping global rise below 2 degrees. Developed countries are to contribute whatever public money they feel is right for them as well as give to less developed countries. And we all have seen what happens when these poorly run countries get free money! Corruption, thievery, fraud, waste , etc. It is terribly written and unenforceable. Good on him for saying no! If the Gates' and Zuckerbergs of the world want to contribute to the cause it's in there too, that they will accept outside contributions. It doesn't need to be the government doing it, the business can voluntarily limit greenhouse gasses. Thanks Donald!

[ColdNoMore]

400 Billion from US tax payers 0.2 degree by 2200 China and India are burning coal and can set there own limits Yes POTUS

Let me preface this by saying I believe president Trump is a man lacking in moral character. There is much I don't like about him. But let's deal with the president we've got. I just read the Paris climate accords and Trump is right that they are vague and offer suggestions with no clear metrics as guides to keeping global rise below 2 degrees. Developed countries are to contribute whatever public money they feel is right for them as well as give to less developed countries. And we all have seen what happens when these poorly run countries get free money! Corruption, thievery, fraud, waste , etc. It is terribly written and unenforceable. Good on him for saying no! If the Gates' and Zuckerbergs of the world want to contribute to the cause it's in there too, that they will accept outside contributions. It doesn't need to be the government doing it, the business can voluntarily limit greenhouse gasses. Thanks Donald!

It helps when actual facts are used. :oops:

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/06/02/climate/trump-paris-green-climate-fund.html

Industrialized countries have voluntarily pledged $10.3 billion since 2013 to help poorer nations reduce greenhouse gas emissions and address the effects of climate change. The United States has pledged by far the most — $3 billion, twice that of the second-largest pledger, Japan. But on a per-capita basis, many other countries have offered more than the United States. Swedes, for example, will contribute nearly $60 each.

Among the latest projects: development of irrigation and groundwater replenishment systems in northeastern India, where climate change has made monsoon rains less reliable; a hydropower plant in the Solomon Islands in the South Pacific to eliminate diesel generators; and restoration and protection of Ugandan wetlands that are used by subsistence farmers.

[wjboyer1]

sure will be hard to breathe those "savings" or perhaps one could use them on the coast for floatation.....only one Earth, kill it, and it kills us

[MDLNB]

sure will be hard to breathe those "savings" or perhaps one could use them on the coast for floatation.....only one Earth, kill it, and it kills us

stupid comment. Our air is cleaner than its been in decades. And man has nothing to do with the global warming myth, other than creating another myth. But, if you want the world to be colder, just nuke it. We'll have a nuclear winter. That work for you?

[wjboyer1]

stupid comment. Our air is cleaner than its been in decades. And man has nothing to do with the global warming myth, other than creating another myth. But, if you want the world to be colder, just nuke it. We'll have a nuclear winter. That work for you?

Debunking the Top 10 Climate Change Myths | Climate Nexus (http://climatenexus.org/messaging-communication/basics/debunking-top-10-climate-change-myths)

[Rockyrd]

"The No. 2 diplomat at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing resigned Monday, telling staff his conscience would not permit him to formally notify the Chinese that the United States is withdrawing from the Paris climate accord.

David H. Rank, a career Foreign Service officer of 27 years, had been acting ambassador until former Iowa governor Terry Branstad (R) was confirmed as the new ambassador last month. Rank held a town meeting with embassy employees to explain he had offered his resignation and it had been accepted.

As the head of the embassy until Branstad arrives, it was Rank’s responsibility to deliver a formal notification of the U.S. intention to withdraw from the climate pact.

According to a State Department official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be more candid, Rank was unwilling to deliver the demarche.

He told his staff that as “a parent, a patriot and a Christian,” he could not in good conscience play a role in implementing President Trump’s decision to withdraw, according to a colleague familiar with Rank’s comments."

Senior diplomat in Beijing embassy resigns over Trump’s climate change decision - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senior-diplomat-in-beijing-embassy-resigns-over-trumps-climate-change-decision/2017/06/05/3537ff8c-4a2e-11e7-a186-60c031eab644_story.html?utm_term=.0f5e3a2650b0)

Which brings to mind the lack of personnel to serve our country.

IT IS NOT DEMOCRATS BLOCKING OR SLOWING NOMINEES, NO MATTER WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS...THEY ARE EINS BEHIND IN NOMINATING PEOPLE.

Our state department is a shell right now, and are ill equipped to handle any emergencies

[Allegiance]

"The No. 2 diplomat at the U.S. Embassy in Beijing resigned Monday, telling staff his conscience would not permit him to formally notify the Chinese that the United States is withdrawing from the Paris climate accord.

David H. Rank, a career Foreign Service officer of 27 years, had been acting ambassador until former Iowa governor Terry Branstad (R) was confirmed as the new ambassador last month. Rank held a town meeting with embassy employees to explain he had offered his resignation and it had been accepted.

As the head of the embassy until Branstad arrives, it was Rank’s responsibility to deliver a formal notification of the U.S. intention to withdraw from the climate pact.

According to a State Department official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity to be more candid, Rank was unwilling to deliver the demarche.

He told his staff that as “a parent, a patriot and a Christian,” he could not in good conscience play a role in implementing President Trump’s decision to withdraw, according to a colleague familiar with Rank’s comments."

Senior diplomat in Beijing embassy resigns over Trump’s climate change decision - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/senior-diplomat-in-beijing-embassy-resigns-over-trumps-climate-change-decision/2017/06/05/3537ff8c-4a2e-11e7-a186-60c031eab644_story.html?utm_term=.0f5e3a2650b0)

Which brings to mind the lack of personnel to serve our country.

IT IS NOT DEMOCRATS BLOCKING OR SLOWING NOMINEES, NO MATTER WHAT THE WHITE HOUSE SAYS...THEY ARE EINS BEHIND IN NOMINATING PEOPLE.

Our state department is a shell right now, and are ill equipped to handle any emergencies
Blah blah blah blah

[dbussone]

Blah blah blah blah



Ditto


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[Taltarzac725]

Debunking the Top 10 Climate Change Myths | Climate Nexus (http://climatenexus.org/messaging-communication/basics/debunking-top-10-climate-change-myths)

Now if people will actually read this!!

[Don Baldwin]

Now if people will actually read this!!

Why?

"We believe that the human cost of climate change is too great to ignore."

One sided? Balanced? I don't think so.

If you go WAY back...past the last the 1,000 years they use...the earths temperature has been higher...it's also been MUCH colder.

Do you think that the ice ages have stopped and we'll never get another? If you do...then you are ignorant to the natural cycles the earth goes through. If you don't...if you think someday the ice age will be back...as it's been doing FOREVER...then what are you worried about? You're aware that the earth goes through temperature cycles and this too will pass.

CO2 has very little to do with global temperature. The CO2 scare is a scam. They found something to blame the current natural warming on. So they can MAKE MONEY off it.

"Out of the entire atmospheric makeup, only one to two percent is made up of greenhouse gases with the majority being nitrogen (about 78 percent) and oxygen (about 21 percent). Of that two percent, “planet-killing” carbon dioxide comprises only 3.62 percent while water vapor encompasses 95 percent."

Which means...greenhouse gasses makes up only 1-2% of the atmosphere AND CO2 only makes up 4% of that small 1-2% of greenhouse gasses. CO2 makes up 0.04% of the total atmosphere...it's nothing...and it does nothing. WATER VAPOR is what determines heat retention. We pump a LOT of water vapor into the air but evaporation is the biggest contributor.

"The Earth's atmosphere is 78 percent nitrogen, 21 percent oxygen and 1 percent other gases, including about 0.04 percent carbon dioxide."

Man isn't helping... There's a lot more crap being pumped into the air a LOT worse than CO2. And it ain't by us. SE Asia is the biggest contributor to air pollution. China...India...are both causing a LOT of pollution.

[MDLNB]

No one has proved that man has caused the climate change. As a matter of fact, if liberals did not have something to complain about or some form of protest, they would cease to exist. Climate change is a money maker for scammers, scientists that majored in the wrong subject in college and now need some form of vindication to justify their bad decisions. Like LIberals and their attempt to disparage the president because of their bad choices.