Fox News turning sour on Trump?

[Chi-Town]

Neil Cavuto has had enough. Remember Trump watches Fox exclusively. From Cavuto's Tuesday show:


“Mr. President, it’s not the fake news media that’s your problem, it’s you. It’s not just your tweeting, it’s your scapegoating, it’s your refusal to see that sometimes you’re the one who’s feeding your own beast.They didn’t tweet disparaging comments about a London mayor in the middle of a murder spree. You did. They didn’t create that needless distraction. You did. They didn’t get you off your very valid and very promising agenda. You did. They didn’t turn on a travel ban that you signed. You did.”

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[Allegiance]

Fox has always been fair and balanced, thanks for pointing it out.

Shep Smith, Juan williams, Geraldo etc etc proves how balanced.

Where are the equal amount of conservatives on CNN, msnbc, etc etc

THERE ARE NON, they are agents for the liberals.

[graciegirl]

Neil Cavuto has had enough. Remember Trump watches Fox exclusively. From Cavuto's Tuesday show:


“Mr. President, it’s not the fake news media that’s your problem, it’s you. It’s not just your tweeting, it’s your scapegoating, it’s your refusal to see that sometimes you’re the one who’s feeding your own beast.They didn’t tweet disparaging comments about a London mayor in the middle of a murder spree. You did. They didn’t create that needless distraction. You did. They didn’t get you off your very valid and very promising agenda. You did. They didn’t turn on a travel ban that you signed. You did.”

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I am a bit annoyed at your typing this as it is my opinion that you seldom watch Fox News National. In my opinion, it is the best available journalism of the three and the fairest presentation of the news.

They have contributors and anchors from a much broader political spectrum than their competitors.

Many of their producers and writers are liberal. They are required to write well researched facts from valid and respected sources with no private opinion. Sometimes the anchors will put their own spin on what the teleprompter says. I think MSNBC fails miserably at being unbiased and CNN is better than MSNBC but not as good as Fox overall.

[ColdNoMore]

I am a bit annoyed at your typing this as it is my opinion that you seldom watch Fox News National. In my opinion, it is the best available journalism of the three and the fairest presentation of the news.

They have contributors and anchors from a much broader political spectrum than their competitors.

Many of their producers and writers are liberal. They are required to write well researched facts from valid and respected sources with no private opinion. Sometimes the anchors will put their own spin on what the teleprompter says. I think MSNBC fails miserably at being unbiased and CNN is better than MSNBC but not as good as Fox overall.

Of course you're annoyed. :1rotfl:

Besides your flaming bias showing, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that you have a relative who is an 'ASSISTANT' Producer (NOT 'EXECUTIVE' Producer as you've previously lied)...of a Faux News affiliate. ;)

And no, I am not a stalker like yourself...and need to know everything about everyone else.

I simply Googled your earlier lie...and quickly found the truth. :ho:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[graciegirl]

Ply

Of course you're annoyed. :1rotfl:

Besides your flaming bias showing, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that you have a relative who is an 'ASSISTANT' Producer (NOT 'EXECUTIVE' Producer as you've previously lied)...of a Faux News affiliate. ;)

And no, I am not a stalker like yourself...and need to know everything about everyone else.

I simply Googled your earlier lie...and quickly found the truth. :ho:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:



Here's your binky.



I am anxious for you to meet my husband. Our grandchildren had the remarkable good sense to take after him.

[ColdNoMore]

Here's your binky.
No thanks.

I don't use one, nor would I even think...of taking yours from you. :1rotfl:




I am anxious for you to meet my husband. Our grandchildren had the remarkable good sense to take after him.

I'm sure all involved...are incredibly grateful for that. :ho:


More importantly of course, is that all can see your attempt to misdirect/obfuscate that...you were caught in yet another lie. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Topspinmo]

Of course you're annoyed. :1rotfl:

Besides your flaming bias showing, I'm sure it has nothing to do with the fact that you have a relative who is an 'ASSISTANT' Producer (NOT 'EXECUTIVE' Producer as you've previously lied)...of a Faux News affiliate. ;)

And no, I am not a stalker like yourself...and need to know everything about everyone else.

I simply Googled your earlier lie...and quickly found the truth. :ho:


Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:


"Besides your flaming bias showing"

Now that the pot calling the kettle black. Nothing more viral than hatefully liberal

"I am not stalker". :1rotfl: now that's funny:1rotfl::1rotfl:


Deepless normal wishes:popcorn:

[Rockyrd]

I am a bit annoyed at your typing this as it is my opinion that you seldom watch Fox News National. In my opinion, it is the best available journalism of the three and the fairest presentation of the news.

They have contributors and anchors from a much broader political spectrum than their competitors.

Many of their producers and writers are liberal. They are required to write well researched facts from valid and respected sources with no private opinion. Sometimes the anchors will put their own spin on what the teleprompter says. I think MSNBC fails miserably at being unbiased and CNN is better than MSNBC but not as good as Fox overall.

This is fairly remarkable.

A poster gives a direct quote...not made up crap, linked it to a specific show it was said on. Headed with a non specific, general question which was very valid.

You respond by beginning with a personal comment about viewer habits which means nothing, nor is it any of your business.

You then do a commercial for FOX News, but never ever, at any time do you address what the poster quoted from a Fox newsperson.

Yet, you have no problem coming on here and condemning in the most general fashion, millions of Americans based on their religion or political ideology.

BUT you will lecture me and others on being proper and honest.

As they say on a sports show..."C'mon man"

[graciegirl]

This is fairly remarkable.

A poster gives a direct quote...not made up crap, linked it to a specific show it was said on. Headed with a non specific, general question which was very valid.

You respond by beginning with a personal comment about viewer habits which means nothing, nor is it any of your business.

You then do a commercial for FOX News, but never ever, at any time do you address what the poster quoted from a Fox newsperson.

Yet, you have no problem coming on here and condemning in the most general fashion, millions of Americans based on their religion or political ideology.

BUT you will lecture me and others on being proper and honest.

As they say on a sports show..."C'mon man"

Sir. I can say anything I damn well please.

I LIKE Fox News. All of our grandchildren are employed by them.(Even one who is a liberal) Bigger and better Christmas presents. No filling anyone's gas tanks or lending them money. I like employed offspring. Thank goodness they do stick to the point far better than I do.

I don't recall lecturing you on being proper OR honest. I don't recall you being improper or dishonest, you are wordy and often very emotional when you do not pay attention.

[graciegirl]

I think Neil Cavuto is correct in his assessment. My personal opinion of Donald Trump as I have said before, just from observing his behavior is that he has had mild Asperger's Syndrome all of his life, was born with it. He is not good at reading, inappropriate frequently with how he interprets social interchange, will pick up on minor cues, cannot seem to not respond. Yet he is brilliant in many ways and highly successful in business.

There are a lot of people who have not been diagnosed with certain personality traits who have made an apparent success of their life. I am sure he often does not understand why he is being criticized. I think he thinks he is doing the right thing.

[graciegirl]

I do not think that you, or most people KNOW what Muslims believe. Or how dangerous anyone who has become a radicalized religious person can be.......

I don't like a religious ideology that states in their Holy Book that you would be better off dead if you do not accept and live the tenants of their religion.

[ColdNoMore]

I do not think that you, or most people KNOW what Muslims believe. Or how dangerous anyone who has become a radicalized religious person can be.......

I don't like a religious ideology that states in their Holy Book that you would be better off dead if you do not accept and live the tenants of their religion.

:1rotfl:

A cafeteria Christian are we? :oops:

Have you even bothered to read what was required of 'believers'... under the Old Testament?

Now tell everyone, how you can lump all Muslims in one group based on the interpretation by the most radical/fundamental of a few of the more disgusting parts of the Quran...but you refuse to do so for Christians.

The "But That's Just the Old Testament!" Cop-Out | loonwatch.com (http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/05/the-but-thats-just-the-old-testament-cop-out/)

We showcased violence in the Hebrew Bible (the Old Testament) in parts 1, 2, 3, 4, and 6 of this Series. Even though this list of Biblical verses was hardly exhaustive, it was more than enough to refute the claim–made by Islamophobes like Robert Spencer (and unfortunately accepted as fact by the majority of Americans)–that the Quran is more violent than the Bible.

In response, many Christians rely on a “fall back” argument: they claim that this “doesn’t count” since “it’s just the Old Testament!” and supposedly Jesus Christ rejected the violent legacy of the OT. It is of course of paramount importance to the anti-Muslim Christians–as well as to “culturally Christian” atheists and your run-of-the-mill Islamophobes who need to prove the “uniquely” violent nature of Islam’s holy book–to neutralize the Old Testament. After all, if the Old Testament “counts”, then it would be a case of Mutually Assured Destruction (M.A.D.) to attack the Quran for its alleged violence: the Old Testament is by far the more violent book.

Tell us why you are so bigoted as to believe one thing...but be blinded by the other.

Tell us why the abhorrent Westboro Baptist Church, isn't actually correct...because they go by the word of the OT?

We'll wait. :popcorn:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Rockyrd]

Sir. I can say anything I damn well please.

I LIKE Fox News. All of our grandchildren are employed by them.(Even one who is a liberal) Bigger and better Christmas presents. No filling anyone's gas tanks or lending them money. I like employed offspring. Thank goodness they do stick to the point far better than I do.

I don't recall lecturing you on being proper OR honest. I don't recall you being improper or dishonest, you are wordy and often very emotional when you do not pay attention.

This is stupid, at best.

Using capital letters, you have chastised and lectured me on a number of occasions for pointing out Rubicon's daily charge about millions of my fellow Americans. Since there is not a way to search down here in the basement, but you have lectured me AND anyone who might disagree with your "fiends" by reminding us all how outstanding an individual they are (I take that as criticism because you LOUDLY use me and others as examples of the opposite). You do that and never ever peak to the subject, the issue or anything close.

And yes, you, AND ANYONE ON HERE, AS THE ORIGINAL POSTER DID, can say what they want, and you obviously may show what you call "annoyance".

We underlings must follow....you can say what you want, but whether you realize it or not, you then turn around and lecture.

[jebartle]

Fox has always been fair and balanced, thanks for pointing it out.

Shep Smith, Juan williams, Geraldo etc etc proves how balanced.

Where are the equal amount of conservatives on CNN, msnbc, etc etc

THERE ARE NON, they are agents for the liberals.

crazy, I thought we were all Americans, wanting what is best for this country. Do you remember when the majority ruled, you know, the 3 million plus voters that did not vote for this clown.

[graciegirl]

This is stupid, at best.

Using capital letters, you have chastised and lectured me on a number of occasions for pointing out Rubicon's daily charge about millions of my fellow Americans. Since there is not a way to search down here in the basement, but you have lectured me AND anyone who might disagree with your "fiends" by reminding us all how outstanding an individual they are (I take that as criticism because you LOUDLY use me and others as examples of the opposite). You do that and never ever peak to the subject, the issue or anything close.

And yes, you, AND ANYONE ON HERE, AS THE ORIGINAL POSTER DID, can say what they want, and you obviously may show what you call "annoyance".

We underlings must follow....you can say what you want, but whether you realize it or not, you then turn around and lecture.

Sir. YOU felt excluded. I didn't use you as an example of the opposite. I just praised someone. Of course I lecture. I am a card carrying mother...and a woman.

I do admire Rubicon. He is smart. He is kind. He is CALM. And I agree with him most of the time. He never uses gutter talk. (I do) He is a good family man who really loves his wife. He is a decent soul.

[Rockyrd]

I think Neil Cavuto is correct in his assessment. My personal opinion of Donald Trump as I have said before, just from observing his behavior is that he has had mild Asperger's Syndrome all of his life, was born with it. He is not good at reading, inappropriate frequently with how he interprets social interchange, will pick up on minor cues, cannot seem to not respond. Yet he is brilliant in many ways and highly successful in business.

There are a lot of people who have not been diagnosed with certain personality traits who have made an apparent success of their life. I am sure he often does not understand why he is being criticized. I think he thinks he is doing the right thing.

WHATEVER, HE LIES, AND KNOW WE KNOW HIS LAWYER DOES AS WELL.

A President who will lie to the American people, and will do, say or tweet what he does puts each and every American citizen in very great danger, and today send his lawyer out to lie.

Does not matter why....he is putting us in great danger. What he did in the Mid East this week is NOTHING compared to what he might do.

HE IS THE PRESIDENT...HE SPEAKS FOR THE COUNTRY

[Rockyrd]

Sir. YOU felt excluded. I didn't use you as an example of the opposite. I just praised someone. Of course I lecture. I am a card carrying mother...and a woman.

I do admire Rubicon. He is smart. He is kind. He is CALM. And I agree with him most of the time. He never uses gutter talk. (I do) He is a good family man who really loves his wife. He is a decent soul.

You don't seem to read many posts except his. If you did, and read those of us who actually supply backup....

Well, I do not feel left out or excluded. Not sure why you say that, but I don't post unless I know I have the correct and proper information....I do not take down and accuse my fellow Americans, illogically and without any facts and your opinion sure means less now than irpt used to mean.

[Joe De Vito]

Fox has always been fair and balanced, thanks for pointing it out.

Shep Smith, Juan williams, Geraldo etc etc proves how balanced.

Where are the equal amount of conservatives on CNN, msnbc, etc etc

THERE ARE NON, they are agents for the liberals.

When is the last time you watched MSNBC?

Fox has been called the Republican Broadcasting System, and they are damn proud of it. That is what Roger Ailes wanted. He achieved his goal.

The news may be "fair and balance"; however, their commenters are far from it.

The two potted plants on Fox and Friends, and Hannity reports are "fair and balances". In what World! Who are the people on the far left on Fox News that offset these clowns?

Part of the problem is what is considered a conservative. The Republicans have gone so far right that true conservatives are considered RINOs.

I don't watch CNN. MSNBC has Republican conservatives has their hosts. They are Nichole Wallace, and Joe Scarborough. They are conservatives in the true sense of the word. Are Shepard Smith, and Bret Baiar and considered a liberal, or a Democrat? These two are at least trying to be balanced.

Chuck Todd, and Brian Williams aren't far left. Greta Van Susteren worked for Fox News.

When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.

[Rockyrd]

When is the last time you watched MSNBC?

Fox has been called the Republican Broadcasting System, and they are damn proud of it. That is what Roger Ailes wanted. He achieved his goal.

The news may be "fair and balance"; however, their commenters are far from it.

The two potted plants on Fox and Friends, and Hannity reports are "fair and balances". In what World! Who are the people on the far left on Fox News that offset these clowns?

Part of the problem is what is considered a conservative. The Republicans have gone so far right that true conservatives are considered RINOs.

I don't watch CNN. MSNBC has Republican conservatives has their hosts. They are Nichole Wallace, and Joe Scarborough. They are conservatives in the true sense of the word. Are Shepard Smith, and Bret Baiar and considered a liberal, or a Democrat? These two are at least trying to be balanced.

Chuck Todd, and Brian Williams aren't far left. Greta Van Susteren worked for Fox News.

When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.

I concur in general, and to the OP I can sure see a change happening. You cannot support liars...it makes you a liar.

Watched a bit today after Trump attorneys and whomever this women and Judge are...well, they seemed flabbergasted, and in fact talked about how poor this attorney did, including a reference to lying.

[graciegirl]

:1rotfl:

A cafeteria Christian are we? :oops:

Have you even bothered to read what was required of 'believers'... under the Old Testament?

Now tell everyone, how you can lump all Muslims in one group based on the interpretation by the most radical/fundamental of a few of the more disgusting parts of the Quran...but you refuse to do so for Christians.

The "But That's Just the Old Testament!" Cop-Out | loonwatch.com (http://www.loonwatch.com/2011/05/the-but-thats-just-the-old-testament-cop-out/)


Tell us why you are so bigoted as to believe one thing...but be blinded by the other.

Tell us why the abhorrent Westboro Baptist Church, isn't actually correct...because they go by the word of the OT?

We'll wait. :popcorn:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:


You are at best extremely unkind. No one wants to be inhospitable of others but people, all people, do profile. I do. I think that we won't live long enough to see how bad this mess is gonna get.

Those are my views. You called me a liar. I think that is the first time anyone has ever called me a liar. Not that I never lie.

You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful.

[graciegirl]

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When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.[/QUOTE

The only network of those three that I don't watch anymore is MSNBC. I read New York Times, Reuters, AP, Guardian, Washington Post. (talk about biased) I do NOT read any of those very biased online thingys...except Breitbart...I like them because my views are right of center by quite a bit. I send the weirdy news blurbs on Facebook to the delete pile...from either side. It is hard enough today trying to find the truth from the most trusted news sources. I have never noticed that Hannity appeared insane or "no damned good".

Most people who have lived six or seven decades don't fit into many boxes. I think that Trump was elected because many people were not in tune with the far right or the far left. I still like his policies and hope for a BAN. Go right ahead and call me bigoted. I think that folks who aren't a little afraid are more than a little uninformed. We can't agree or like everybody and the ones who cry hate on this forum seem to me to act the most hateful.

[Rockyrd]

I do not think that you, or most people KNOW what Muslims believe. Or how dangerous anyone who has become a radicalized religious person can be.......

I don't like a religious ideology that states in their Holy Book that you would be better off dead if you do not accept and live the tenants of their religion.

I didnt not see your addition thus did not respond.

Will say that your know less or no more than I and others about what Muslims believe BUT you condemn the entire religion with almost every key stroke.

You speak and if you are the only person who is not concerned about radical muslim terrorism. Trust me, you are not. HOWEVER the Trump campaign and you and the rest of the acolyte's have made this into a "cottage industry" and as if they fear of and dedication to destroying this threat was a property of ONLY his campaign and ONLY the Republican party.

Let me tell you.....the front line in our country in this war against radical islamic terrorism is our FBI and intelligence communities. Trump has trashed these organizations and lied about them since he began his campaign. You feel good about that ?

Yes, Obama should have gone to Syria way back a few years and if you recall, I began two threads on that same subject. He would have caught holy hell for it...putting our troops in harms way in Syria and YOU and the smart guy Rubicon would have been at the head of the pack attacking Obama for that. You can say you would not but sorry, dont believe it.

That was an error in judgement for sure, but pretty much since then, everybody is walking on eggs....WHY ? Because Russia is now a player there and makes a big difference. Not only does our President not ever criticize them, he sort of brags on them. NEXT on the list for ISIS.....guess where....Eastern Europe. What is the common denominator....RUSSIA.

We need to move on TERRORISM, not ISLAM. We ask american muslims to help us and then in the next breath call the religion terrible names.

The enemy is TERRORISM who is moving under the name of Islam and if you know what is good for you, especially in the mid east, you better not say that you think they do not support the religion and we are pushing it in this country as well.

I do not fear the MUSLIM RELIGION but I do fear the terrorists who work using the name Muslim.

Trump has instilled the fear of this in all our citizens. That is how he got started in this particular race and we do not need a ban on who he says we need to ban. We need to help our agencies that he demeans at every step of the way in insuring we are vetting properly.

he has destroyed any chance of a non biased comprehensive immigration policy and thus we have chaos. I suppose that is wht you folks wanted.

[Chi-Town]

This is fairly remarkable.

A poster gives a direct quote...not made up crap, linked it to a specific show it was said on. Headed with a non specific, general question which was very valid.

You respond by beginning with a personal comment about viewer habits which means nothing, nor is it any of your business.

You then do a commercial for FOX News, but never ever, at any time do you address what the poster quoted from a Fox newsperson.

Yet, you have no problem coming on here and condemning in the most general fashion, millions of Americans based on their religion or political ideology.

BUT you will lecture me and others on being proper and honest.

As they say on a sports show..."C'mon man"
GG is like the granny gate guard in Goldfinger. Watch until the end.

James Bond Gold Finger scene Guard granny with machine gun - YouTube (https://youtu.be/95QAXOim2EI)

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[Rockyrd]

[

When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.[/QUOTE

The only network of those three that I don't watch anymore is MSNBC. I read New York Times, Reuters, AP, Guardian, Washington Post. (talk about biased) I do NOT read any of those very biased online thingys...except Breitbart...I like them because my views are right of center by quite a bit. I send the weirdy news blurbs on Facebook to the delete pile...from either side. It is hard enough today trying to find the truth from the most trusted news sources. I have never noticed that Hannity appeared insane or "no damned good".

Most people who have lived six or seven decades don't fit into many boxes. I think that Trump was elected because many people were not in tune with the far right or the far left. I still like his policies and hope for a BAN. Go right ahead and call me bigoted. I think that folks who aren't a little afraid are more than a little uninformed. We can't agree or like everybody and the ones who cry hate on this forum seem to me to act the most hateful.

Just a note....the Washington Post is not biased. It has made its reputation on INVESTIGATIVE JOURNALISM...remember who brought us Watergate ?

Trump has given us so much to investigate what with his crooked foundations, lying and such that you probably do feel it is biased.

If it makes you feel any better, the link below shows they investigate everybody.......but it will be boring as hell compared to the last 6 months.

Obama’s biggest whoppers - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2017/01/19/obamas-biggest-whoppers/?utm_term=.2273b8fedd27)

This is the title because somehow I dont think you will open the link because I gave it to you...should have forwarded it through Rubicon...

"Obama’s biggest whoppers

Enjoy....you can smile while reading and forget the real world which so many are doing as all they talk about is Obama and Clinton and ignore the real on going world and our destruction of the presidency

[ColdNoMore]

You are at best extremely unkind. No one wants to be inhospitable of others but people, all people, do profile. I do. I think that we won't live long enough to see how bad this mess is gonna get.
No one is arguing that there aren't those radicals/fundamentalists, that have corrupted their religion to justify heinous acts and hatred.

It is the ignorance that this represents an entire religion...that some people can't seem to see.




Those are my views. You called me a liar. I think that is the first time anyone has ever called me a liar. Not that I never lie.
Now I know you're lying. :1rotfl:

What would you call someone who made numerous statements, to impress others, about a relative who was an 'Executive Producer' when in fact they knew they were only an 'Assistant Producer/Writer?

Maybe it is just another case of believing in...'alternate facts?' :D

Or the same person who sent me a PM the day after I joined here claiming I was someone else and then inundated the moderators and admin's with whining... to have me banned? To the point, where I'm probably the only person who has ever had to show their drivers license to prove you wrong. And while I thought your power to do that was way out of whack with simply being the post leader, I have since seen the powers-that-be here...be fair and equitable. :thumbup:





You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful.
As to making you angry, I hope you realize by now...I couldn't really care less. :boxing2:

As to your attempt to malign my character (due primarily to my embarrassing you as a liar and exposing you as a passive-aggressive twit)...you're way off the mark.

I have close friends that would tell you I am a straight shooter who would give you the shirt off of his back, but does not tolerate racists/bigots/misogynists/passive-aggressive people and bullies...gladly. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[maureenod]

When is the last time you watched MSNBC?

Fox has been called the Republican Broadcasting System, and they are damn proud of it. That is what Roger Ailes wanted. He achieved his goal.

The news may be "fair and balance"; however, their commenters are far from it.

The two potted plants on Fox and Friends, and Hannity reports are "fair and balances". In what World! Who are the people on the far left on Fox News that offset these clowns?

Part of the problem is what is considered a conservative. The Republicans have gone so far right that true conservatives are considered RINOs.

I don't watch CNN. MSNBC has Republican conservatives has their hosts. They are Nichole Wallace, and Joe Scarborough. They are conservatives in the true sense of the word. Are Shepard Smith, and Bret Baiar and considered a liberal, or a Democrat? These two are at least trying to be balanced.

Chuck Todd, and Brian Williams aren't far left. Greta Van Susteren worked for Fox News.

When I want a good laugh in the morning, I turn on Fox, and Friends, and they never fail. Trump loves them. You are going to try and sell that they are "fair and balanced". Good luck.

If you think that Hannity is "fair and balanced", you have lost your mind. From 7PM to 10:59 PM, MSNBC is definitely to the left. However, none of these hosts comes anywhere close to Hannity. He is truly insane, and no damn good.

Ted Koppel, truly the most respected journalist, looked Hannity straight in the eye and said "YOU are bad for America" . Hannity was, believe it or not, taken back and said "I'm bad for America?" YAAAAH

[rubicon]

You are at best extremely unkind. No one wants to be inhospitable of others but people, all people, do profile. I do. I think that we won't live long enough to see how bad this mess is gonna get.

Those are my views. You called me a liar. I think that is the first time anyone has ever called me a liar. Not that I never lie.

You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful.

Tell me...never mind ask yourself how you felt when you read this poster's comments that caused you to respond with the aforementioned?

There is an easy solution its called the ignore list.

People do not sign on to this forum for that type of verbal abuse and, vile attacks. Most would be willing a give and take arrangement and stay open to legitimate disagreement .

Those who are judged to go beyond the pal are deserving of being added to the ignore list....its akin to a scarlet letter ...and like a tree falling in a forest in your absence....

Personal Best Regards:

[Nucky]

You are at best extremely unkind. No one wants to be inhospitable of others but people, all people, do profile. I do. I think that we won't live long enough to see how bad this mess is gonna get.

Those are my views. You called me a liar. I think that is the first time anyone has ever called me a liar. Not that I never lie.

You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful.

Mrs. gracegirl that's an easy one. "You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful." It's because it is all he knows how to be. Be careful of anyone who claims to look out for others instead of just doing so.

It's Fox News in our home. We also like Wesh news for the local news. If we want a good laugh we put on The Comedy News Network = CNN.

I give a whole lot of credit to those who stick with it over here including graciegirl, Rubicon, Tal, Allegiance, and others whose views don't always align with my own. The constant barrage of incoming insults from this one person is amazing. I can't believe TOTV allows it to happen. Throw one little shot at him on the main Forum and he takes his Binkie and alerts the Moderator.

Only a low life would insult a Mother, Father, Husband, Wife, Grandmother, Grandfather, Brother, Sister, Veteran, Person who loves our country on a regular basis. When he fires an insult at one of these he fires at all of them. Truly a garbage person. Enough.

[Rockyrd]

Tell me...never mind ask yourself how you felt when you read this poster's comments that caused you to respond with the aforementioned?

There is an easy solution its called the ignore list.

People do not sign on to this forum for that type of verbal abuse and, vile attacks. Most would be willing a give and take arrangement and stay open to legitimate disagreement .

Those who are judged to go beyond the pal are deserving of being added to the ignore list....its akin to a scarlet letter ...and like a tree falling in a forest in your absence....

Personal Best Regards:

Actually, I can agree with you to an extent.

Worse than what you are after are those who judge and act as if it is a judgement from above. I can take the heat in here....I really truely have a problem with being judged with no back up....THAT is a trait of Trump....I never liked it from him and I do not like it here.

I AM sick of folks judging everyone and making judgements and not even having the courtesy of allowing me...on what basis are you judging me.

AND even more is the judgement of millions and millions of fellow americans as if the poster judging had the holy grail and knew all.

AND on a political forum to lack the honesty to at least TRY to back it up with facts is most unnerving. Those are the posters who need to be sorted out and tossed...they serve ZERO purpose to this forum.

YOU RUBICON who post this make judgements almost each day on millions of people based on things you dont even know about nor share. I do not like Trump, but I very seldom if ever post a remark about him without a credible link to support what I am saying.

You and the poster you defend, simply make judgements.......I suppose because it is you, I really never understood that.

You critique those you comprehend as foes of your friend, BUT NEVER EVER CRITICIZE those who use filth in their posts...fact is they brag that they have been invited to your fancy facebook page. Those with the filth you seem to consort with...why is that....simple, you all support Trump, refuse to see anything wrong and those who do not agree with your hate are the bad people.

Yeah, I understand what you say but find you to be so hypocritical, so phoney and thus so un trustworthy. You and your friend do in fact get me close to anger everytime I read, not your opinion based on facts you present, but hate based on a long campaign of "lock her up" "media lies" etc and etc. It was all hate and he brought to the White House and you guys carry it on here on TOTV

This is not a defense of anyone, but a continuing critique that either because I am on your ignore list, which is no surprise. but because you simply march on and refuse to acknowledge you might......JUST MIGHT, BY CHANCE be wrong and that maybe all the americans you go after might have an opinion worth listening to.

Just try starting a sentence without the word ALL proceeding those you are going to demean.....try giving us specific reasons...links, articles, even just your opinion founded in some kind of facts.

[Allegiance]

I didnt not see your addition thus did not respond.

Will say that your know less or no more than I and others about what Muslims believe BUT you condemn the entire religion with almost every key stroke.

You speak and if you are the only person who is not concerned about radical muslim terrorism. Trust me, you are not. HOWEVER the Trump campaign and you and the rest of the acolyte's have made this into a "cottage industry" and as if they fear of and dedication to destroying this threat was a property of ONLY his campaign and ONLY the Republican party.

Let me tell you.....the front line in our country in this war against radical islamic terrorism is our FBI and intelligence communities. Trump has trashed these organizations and lied about them since he began his campaign. You feel good about that ?

Yes, Obama should have gone to Syria way back a few years and if you recall, I began two threads on that same subject. He would have caught holy hell for it...putting our troops in harms way in Syria and YOU and the smart guy Rubicon would have been at the head of the pack attacking Obama for that. You can say you would not but sorry, dont believe it.

That was an error in judgement for sure, but pretty much since then, everybody is walking on eggs....WHY ? Because Russia is now a player there and makes a big difference. Not only does our President not ever criticize them, he sort of brags on them. NEXT on the list for ISIS.....guess where....Eastern Europe. What is the common denominator....RUSSIA.

We need to move on TERRORISM, not ISLAM. We ask american muslims to help us and then in the next breath call the religion terrible names.

The enemy is TERRORISM who is moving under the name of Islam and if you know what is good for you, especially in the mid east, you better not say that you think they do not support the religion and we are pushing it in this country as well.

I do not fear the MUSLIM RELIGION but I do fear the terrorists who work using the name Muslim.

Trump has instilled the fear of this in all our citizens. That is how he got started in this particular race and we do not need a ban on who he says we need to ban. We need to help our agencies that he demeans at every step of the way in insuring we are vetting properly.

he has destroyed any chance of a non biased comprehensive immigration policy and thus we have chaos. I suppose that is wht you folks wanted.
Wordy might be a small understatement.... lol

[Rockyrd]

Mrs. gracegirl that's an easy one. "You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful." It's because it is all he knows how to be. Be careful of anyone who claims to look out for others instead of just doing so.

It's Fox News in our home. We also like Wesh news for the local news. If we want a good laugh we put on The Comedy News Network = CNN.

I give a whole lot of credit to those who stick with it over here including graciegirl, Rubicon, Tal, Allegiance, and others whose views don't always align with my own. The constant barrage of incoming insults from this one person is amazing. I can't believe TOTV allows it to happen. Throw one little shot at him on the main Forum and he takes his Binkie and alerts the Moderator.

Only a low life would insult a Mother, Father, Husband, Wife, Grandmother, Grandfather, Brother, Sister, Veteran, Person who loves our country on a regular basis. When he fires an insult at one of these he fires at all of them. Truly a garbage person. Enough.

I AM sorry...I AM NOT a hateful person but your attack is not well founded, UNLESS YOU MEAN IT TO BE TOTALLY POLITICAL because it is.

You know not what you speak of. I am not never ever been a hateful person........I get so angry and frustrated at those you defend, and an editorial comment here....if you consider ALLEGIANCE to be anything but uninformed scum you are way way out of line.

Graciegirl and Rubicon almost daily take to task miliions and millions of american citizens for one reason.....they do not share their narrow political ideology. Some of the people you mention tout Russian theories openly on here.

Sorry......I gotta defend this guy........I asked him once why he felt the way he did about Gracie and he shared it as far as he could on here. Had anything like that ever happened to me or had anyone done that to me, I would have hired an attorney. I do not know the specifics but you are sainting people who have been asking for sainthood on here.

What you mention, since this is a poltical forum and this is a political post about "Only a low life would insult a Mother, Father, Husband, Wife, Grandmother, Grandfather, Brother, Sister, Veteran, Person who loves our country on a regular basis."

I agree and one of the problems not only here but across this country is our President BASED HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN on exactly your definition of a low life and it continues. He offended each and every party you mention and I recall vividly I gave up on him was the night he attacked Mrs Bush right after going after McCain, and subsequently the parents of a dead soldier. WHY....because as you do here....political.

This is meant for both the President and those you defend on here.....you just do not get to attack others, then cry victim when it is returned.

[Allegiance]

Actually, I can agree with you to an extent.

Worse than what you are after are those who judge and act as if it is a judgement from above. I can take the heat in here....I really truely have a problem with being judged with no back up....THAT is a trait of Trump....I never liked it from him and I do not like it here.

I AM sick of folks judging everyone and making judgements and not even having the courtesy of allowing me...on what basis are you judging me.

AND even more is the judgement of millions and millions of fellow americans as if the poster judging had the holy grail and knew all.

AND on a political forum to lack the honesty to at least TRY to back it up with facts is most unnerving. Those are the posters who need to be sorted out and tossed...they serve ZERO purpose to this forum.

YOU RUBICON who post this make judgements almost each day on millions of people based on things you dont even know about nor share. I do not like Trump, but I very seldom if ever post a remark about him without a credible link to support what I am saying.

You and the poster you defend, simply make judgements.......I suppose because it is you, I really never understood that.

You critique those you comprehend as foes of your friend, BUT NEVER EVER CRITICIZE those who use filth in their posts...fact is they brag that they have been invited to your fancy facebook page. Those with the filth you seem to consort with...why is that....simple, you all support Trump, refuse to see anything wrong and those who do not agree with your hate are the bad people.

Yeah, I understand what you say but find you to be so hypocritical, so phoney and thus so un trustworthy. You and your friend do in fact get me close to anger everytime I read, not your opinion based on facts you present, but hate based on a long campaign of "lock her up" "media lies" etc and etc. It was all hate and he brought to the White House and you guys carry it on here on TOTV

This is not a defense of anyone, but a continuing critique that either because I am on your ignore list, which is no surprise. but because you simply march on and refuse to acknowledge you might......JUST MIGHT, BY CHANCE be wrong and that maybe all the americans you go after might have an opinion worth listening to.

Just try starting a sentence without the word ALL proceeding those you are going to demean.....try giving us specific reasons...links, articles, even just your opinion founded in some kind of facts.
word·y
ˈwərdē/Submit
adjective
using or expressed in too many words.
synonyms:long-winded, verbose, prolix, lengthy, protracted, long-drawn-out, overlong, rambling, circumlocutory, periphrastic, pleonastic;



This guy can't take constructive criticism....lol

[ColdNoMore]

Mrs. gracegirl that's an easy one. "You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful." It's because it is all he knows how to be. Be careful of anyone who claims to look out for others instead of just doing so.

It's Fox News in our home. We also like Wesh news for the local news. If we want a good laugh we put on The Comedy News Network = CNN.

I give a whole lot of credit to those who stick with it over here including graciegirl, Rubicon, Tal, Allegiance, and others whose views don't always align with my own. The constant barrage of incoming insults from this one person is amazing. I can't believe TOTV allows it to happen. Throw one little shot at him on the main Forum and he takes his Binkie and alerts the Moderator.

That makes you a liar too. :1rotfl:

I couldn't care less what you (or your little clique) say and if your posts are being deleted...maybe you shouldn't be exposing your nuttiness quite so flagrantly. :D

So straighten up...you nutbag. :boom:





Only a low life would insult a Mother, Father, Husband, Wife, Grandmother, Grandfather, Brother, Sister, Veteran, Person who loves our country on a regular basis. When he fires an insult at one of these he fires at all of them. Truly a garbage person. Enough.

Oh the frigging irony. :1rotfl:

I'll bet you're too ignorant to even see the hypocrisy, that you've just spewed...aren't you? :oops:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[ColdNoMore]

I AM sorry...I AM NOT a hateful person but your attack is not well founded, UNLESS YOU MEAN IT TO BE TOTALLY POLITICAL because it is.

You know not what you speak of. I am not never ever been a hateful person........I get so angry and frustrated at those you defend, and an editorial comment here....if you consider ALLEGIANCE to be anything but uninformed scum you are way way out of line.

Graciegirl and Rubicon almost daily take to task miliions and millions of american citizens for one reason.....they do not share their narrow political ideology. Some of the people you mention tout Russian theories openly on here.

Sorry......I gotta defend this guy........I asked him once why he felt the way he did about Gracie and he shared it as far as he could on here. Had anything like that ever happened to me or had anyone done that to me, I would have hired an attorney. I do not know the specifics but you are sainting people who have been asking for sainthood on here.

What you mention, since this is a poltical forum and this is a political post about "Only a low life would insult a Mother, Father, Husband, Wife, Grandmother, Grandfather, Brother, Sister, Veteran, Person who loves our country on a regular basis."

I agree and one of the problems not only here but across this country is our President BASED HIS ENTIRE CAMPAIGN on exactly your definition of a low life and it continues. He offended each and every party you mention and I recall vividly I gave up on him was the night he attacked Mrs Bush right after going after McCain, and subsequently the parents of a dead soldier. WHY....because as you do here....political.

This is meant for both the President and those you defend on here.....you just do not get to attack others, then cry victim when it is returned.

That is it...in a nutshell! :BigApplause:

[Joe De Vito]

Mrs. gracegirl that's an easy one. "You make me angry and you make me wonder why you are so terribly ........hateful." It's because it is all he knows how to be. Be careful of anyone who claims to look out for others instead of just doing so.

It's Fox News in our home. We also like Wesh news for the local news. If we want a good laugh we put on The Comedy News Network = CNN.

I give a whole lot of credit to those who stick with it over here including graciegirl, Rubicon, Tal, Allegiance, and others whose views don't always align with my own. The constant barrage of incoming insults from this one person is amazing. I can't believe TOTV allows it to happen. Throw one little shot at him on the main Forum and he takes his Binkie and alerts the Moderator.

Only a low life would insult a Mother, Father, Husband, Wife, Grandmother, Grandfather, Brother, Sister, Veteran, Person who loves our country on a regular basis. When he fires an insult at one of these he fires at all of them. Truly a garbage person. Enough.

CNN is the Careless News Network.

If you can watch the pot paints on Fox and Friends, and not laugh, you are a better man than I, Gunga Din.

Be careful with your description of a low life, because it fits Trump to a tee. He got elected by calling his opponents names, and a little help from the Russians.

[cologal]

Fox has always been fair and balanced, thanks for pointing it out.

Shep Smith, Juan williams, Geraldo etc etc proves how balanced.

Where are the equal amount of conservatives on CNN, msnbc, etc etc

THERE ARE NON, they are agents for the liberals.

Obviously you haven't watched MSNBC lately! Nicole Wallace has her own show at 4pm.

Check out the change......

[Allegiance]

Obviously you haven't watched MSNBC lately! Nicole Wallace has her own show at 4pm.

Check out the change......

Never trumpers don't count, they are a big part of the swamp.

[Allegiance]

The Bush never trumpers are the worst. Swamp swamp swamp

[MDLNB]

word·y
ˈwərdē/Submit
adjective
using or expressed in too many words.
synonyms:long-winded, verbose, prolix, lengthy, protracted, long-drawn-out, overlong, rambling, circumlocutory, periphrastic, pleonastic;



This guy can't take constructive criticism....lol

Agree. He is still trying to justify his non-vote on here. I think he is trying to convince himself.

[Rockyrd]

From Karl Rove, a regular on FOX....


"Karl Rove, a former senior adviser to President George W. Bush, slammed President Trump on Wednesday, saying that the real estate mogul "lacks the focus or self-discipline to do the basic work required of a president."

"His chronic impulsiveness is apparently unstoppable and clearly self-defeating," Rove wrote in an op-ed for The Wall Street Journal. "Mr. Trump may have mastered the modes of communication, but not the substance, thereby sabotaging his own agenda."

Rove took particular aim at a series of tweets launched by Trump on Monday that appeared to undermine his Justice Department's argument for an executive order temporarily barring citizens of six predominantly Muslim countries from entering the U.S."

He completes his article with this....

"Mr. Trump has figured out how to tweet his way around the mainstream media," he wrote. "Yet by disregarding basic fact checking, he is deepening the already considerable doubts Americans have about his competence and trustworthiness."

Karl Rove: ‘Trump lacks the focus or self-discipline to do the basic work required of a president’ | TheHill (http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/337077-karl-rove-trump-lacks-the-focus-or-self-discipline-to-do-the)

[Rockyrd]

I tried to get everyones attention last week regarding the Trump White House issuing instructions to simply ignore any oversight requests from Democrats but alas.....

Just thought would add this to the thread where things are beginning to develop cracks....like Fox.

Of course the trolls on here will find this not a discussion point, not a symptom but yet another excuse to attack another person who dares criticizes Trump, but they will be turning on their own as Grassley is a pretty powerful Republican.

In history of the entire world, not many sitting administrations EVER to be this NON transparent and defensive.

"The Trump administration's policy of ignoring the oversight requests of Democrats and rank-and-file members has earned it a powerful enemy: Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Chuck Grassley.

In a letter to President Donald Trump, the veteran Iowa Republican senator urged Trump to reverse a policy instituted by the White House and the Department of Justice's Office of Legal Counsel to answer oversight requests only from committee chairmen, all of whom are Republicans because of GOP control of Congress. Though Grassley said that the Obama administration did sometimes ignore him, he said the formalization of a policy of ignoring the minority party "doesn’t drain the swamp, Mr. President. It floods the swamp."

Grassley rips Trump administration for blowing off certain oversight requests - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/06/09/chuck-grassley-trump-oversight-requests-239354)

"Grassley calls the administration's opinion "nonsense" and argues that the president is being "ill-served and ill-advised" by his staff.

"To so fundamentally misunderstand and misstate such a simple fact exposes its shocking lack of professionalism and objectivity. Indeed, OLC appears to have utterly failed to live up to its own standards," Grassley added."

[MDLNB]

CNN is the Careless News Network.

If you can watch the pot paints on Fox and Friends, and not laugh, you are a better man than I, Gunga Din.

Be careful with your description of a low life, because it fits Trump to a tee. He got elected by calling his opponents names, and a little help from the Russians.

That's a lie. No one has found any evidence of Russian influence in the election. Not one bit of evidence that any vote was changed.
The only voter problem so far reported has been those hundreds or more illegals that voted in Virginia.

[Allegiance]

More than any election people were not changing sides regardless of Clinton's illegal activities.

Next election the churches will be able to speak freely, as the black churches always did regardless of the law.

Next election will have less illegal voters.

Even without a new wikileaks the liberal Democrats are DOOMED.