Whom would you buy a used car from Trump or Comey.

[Taltarzac725]

Trump is a fountain of bloviation-- a bloviating blowhard. While Comey actually seems to follow a Code of Honor of sorts which I expect you will find in many people in the FBI.

Now whom would you expect would be the most honest if they were a used cars sales person? This might even be a huge insult to used cars sales people given how dishonest Donald John Trump is.

[MDLNB]

Troll Alert!

[Don Baldwin]

Trump is a fountain of bloviation-- a bloviating blowhard. While Comey actually seems to follow a Code of Honor of sorts which I expect you will find in many people in the FBI.

Now whom would you expect would be the most honest if they were a used cars sales person? This might even be a huge insult to used cars sales people given how dishonest Donald John Trump is.

"Code of Honor"...is usually code for...corrupt and willing to cover things up.

[ColdNoMore]

Troll Alert!

You don't have to warn us...we know what you are. :1rotfl: :1rotfl:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Taltarzac725]

You don't have to warn us...we know what you are. :1rotfl: :1rotfl:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

I wonder why Trump supporters think they can be nasty as they can get and call Democrats and Independents TROLLS because we call Donald John Trump out on his many many lies.

[ColdNoMore]

I wonder why Trump supporters think they can be nasty as they can get and call Democrats and Independents TROLLS because we call Donald John Trump out on his many many lies.

That's actually pretty evident.

They don't do well when anyone points out their lying and/or inconsistencies. :shrug:

[justjim]

My answer to OP's question is neither.

[MDLNB]

Are they selling cars? Obama didn't do such a good job of it with his Cash for Clunkers.

[Chi-Town]

Are they selling cars? Obama didn't do such a good job of it with his Cash for Clunkers.
He did OK saving the auto industry though.

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[Don Baldwin]

He did OK saving the auto industry though.

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And making US pay for it...he transferred ownership from the bondholders/shareholders to others. One day "we" owned GM...the next...someone else. Billions of taxpayer dollars...debt...went into "saving" GM...and others.

Tesla wouldn't be here today without GENEROUS government subsidies...they lose money on each car without the government aid.

[Rockyrd]

And making US pay for it...he transferred ownership from the bondholders/shareholders to others. One day "we" owned GM...the next...someone else. Billions of taxpayer dollars...debt...went into "saving" GM...and others.

Tesla wouldn't be here today without GENEROUS government subsidies...they lose money on each car without the government aid.

AND as pointed out saved the entire industry, but recall what was done was done in concert with the Bush administration and it appears they did great.

I suppose 2008 economics did not stay with some !!!

[AJ32162]

He did OK saving the auto industry though.

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It's Official: Taxpayers Lost $16.6 Billion On The Auto Bailout - Conn Carroll (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2015/02/04/its-official-the-auto-bailout-cost-taxpayers-166-billion-n1952771)

[Rockyrd]

It's Official: Taxpayers Lost $16.6 Billion On The Auto Bailout - Conn Carroll (https://townhall.com/tipsheet/conncarroll/2015/02/04/its-official-the-auto-bailout-cost-taxpayers-166-billion-n1952771)

What is your point ????

WE STILL have an auto industry !!!

ALSO, please recall how this crisis in the auto industry happened.

[AJ32162]

What is your point ????

WE STILL have an auto industry !!!

What is your point? Ford never received a $16 billion bailout and...we still have Ford!!!

[Rockyrd]

"The net cost to tax-payers was tallied to be $9.7 billion. But even that number is pretty meaningless. Harder to calculate, but no less real, is the economic impact of 1.55 million workers paying taxes on good jobs, fueling the economic growth of their communities, etc. There is a total of 7.25 million jobs impacted by the auto industry. Had the President not intervened, it’s not as if all those jobs would have vanished. But in the midst of a broad economic meltdown that extended overseas, $9.7 billion at the time seems cheap to insure peace of mind about keeping the auto industry in tact on a predictable course as the backbone of what is left of the U.S.’s manufacturing base."


"Even with the comeback of the three companies based in the Detroit area, there are those, then as now, who feel the president over-reached. Former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a Michigan native-son whose father was president of American Motors Corp. in the 1950s before being elected governor of Michigan, famously wrote in The New York Times in 2008: “If General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for…, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye.”

Romney advocated letting the companies go bankrupt, as Obama did, but not with help from the U.S. Treasury so they could have a “controlled bankruptcy.” But the President had little choice unless he wanted to smash the U.S. auto industry with no clear picture of what would be left in the aftermath. For any company to go through bankruptcy, they need a bank or consortium of banks to provide financing. No bank or banks stepped up in 2009 to handle a GM and Chrysler bankruptcy, so the U.S. Treasury tapped Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) funds to help the auto industry."


https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2016/01/20/obamas-takes-victory-lap-over-auto-industry-rescue/#2a2c02f93e83

[Rockyrd]

What is your point? Ford never received a $16 billion bailout and...we still have Ford!!!

"Ford did receive $5.9 billion in government loans in 2009 to retool its manufacturing plants to produce more fuel-efficient cars, and the company lobbied for and benefited from the cash-for-clunkers program"



Ford also testified in favor of helping the other companies because of the collapse of one or both of their domestic competitors would threaten Ford because they had 80 percent overlap in supplier networks and nearly 25 percent of Ford’s top dealers also own GM and Chrysler franchises.

[Don Baldwin]

"The net cost to tax-payers was tallied to be $9.7 billion. But even that number is pretty meaningless. Harder to calculate, but no less real, is the economic impact of 1.55 million workers paying taxes on good jobs, fueling the economic growth of their communities, etc. There is a total of 7.25 million jobs impacted by the auto industry. Had the President not intervened, it’s not as if all those jobs would have vanished. But in the midst of a broad economic meltdown that extended overseas, $9.7 billion at the time seems cheap to insure peace of mind about keeping the auto industry in tact on a predictable course as the backbone of what is left of the U.S.’s manufacturing base."


"Even with the comeback of the three companies based in the Detroit area, there are those, then as now, who feel the president over-reached. Former Republican presidential candidate Mitt Romney, a Michigan native-son whose father was president of American Motors Corp. in the 1950s before being elected governor of Michigan, famously wrote in The New York Times in 2008: “If General Motors, Ford and Chrysler get the bailout that their chief executives asked for…, you can kiss the American automotive industry goodbye.”

Romney advocated letting the companies go bankrupt, as Obama did, but not with help from the U.S. Treasury so they could have a “controlled bankruptcy.” But the President had little choice unless he wanted to smash the U.S. auto industry with no clear picture of what would be left in the aftermath. For any company to go through bankruptcy, they need a bank or consortium of banks to provide financing. No bank or banks stepped up in 2009 to handle a GM and Chrysler bankruptcy, so the U.S. Treasury tapped Troubled Asset Relief Program (TARP) funds to help the auto industry."


https://www.forbes.com/sites/davidkiley5/2016/01/20/obamas-takes-victory-lap-over-auto-industry-rescue/#2a2c02f93e83

"Ford did receive $5.9 billion in government loans in 2009 to retool its manufacturing plants to produce more fuel-efficient cars, and the company lobbied for and benefited from the cash-for-clunkers program"



Ford also testified in favor of helping the other companies because of the collapse of one or both of their domestic competitors would threaten Ford because they had 80 percent overlap in supplier networks and nearly 25 percent of Ford’s top dealers also own GM and Chrysler franchises.

$15 billion is pocket change compared to the over $1 TRILLION the banks got. Compared to the QE programs...POMOs.

[MDLNB]

Illegal Aliens..............think BILLIONS per year at the cost of the taxpayers. No big deal for the lower 50% that do not pay federal taxes, I guess.

I wonder how many bucks were lost when Obama fired thousands of auto workers when he closed down all of those dealerships, the first few months he was elected.
How much did we lose from his inexperienced investment in Solyndra?

How many shovel ready jobs did he create?

How much money did he lose in Cash for Clunkers?

Buy a used car? Not from Comey because he would insist that there was "NO INTENT" to defraud me when he sold me a lemon.
From Trump? Yes, if he signed it first. Even if it turned out to be a clunker, it would be worth some money to someone as a collector.

[rubicon]

I was just taken aback by the deeply probative nature of this thread

Personal Best Regards:

[Joe De Vito]

If you bought a car from Trump, the first thing that you would have to do is have it painted. You have to know that his name would be written all over it. The second thing would be to make sure the car you are paying for is the one that you will be getting. Trump would put a Rolls Royce hood ornament on a Yugo, if he thought he could get away with it.

[Nucky]

If you bought your car from Comey you can be certain it has MAJOR LEAKS. More than one for sure. LOL.

[MDLNB]

If you bought your car from Comey you can be certain it has MAJOR LEAKS. More than one for sure. LOL.

Good one!...:thumbup:

[wjboyer1]

If you bought your car from Comey you can be certain it has MAJOR LEAKS. More than one for sure. LOL.


Yes, but only those leaks from the Trump crankcase......

[Taltarzac725]

If you bought your car from Comey you can be certain it has MAJOR LEAKS. More than one for sure. LOL.

Except that is false. James Comey gave away his private notes in a meeting between only him and a man who is a lifelong liar and does untruths daily it seems like. These were not official records kept by a secretary or something but were the notations of what happened in that meeting which Trump himself probably would not out in the open.

Comey gave these to a well respected and loyal friend of his. Who then gave them to the the press because of the known character of Donald John Trump. He is a consummate deceiver.

[MDLNB]

Except that is false. James Comey gave away his private notes in a meeting between only him and a man who is a lifelong liar and does untruths daily it seems like. These were not official records kept by a secretary or something but were the notations of what happened in that meeting which Trump himself probably would not out in the open.

Comey gave these to a well respected and loyal friend of his. Who then gave them to the the press because of the known character of Donald John Trump. He is a consummate deceiver.

Surely, you are not THAT ignorant or naive? Comey, the petulant and immature loser was mad because he got fired and gave his friend his supposed notes (not verifiably accurate) with the express purpose of revenge against Trump for firing him. Comey is an incompetent weakling and should have been fired by Obama. And I believe that Obama saw that and would have fired him if not worried about Comey's vindictive nature and Obama's possible complicity in Hillary's felonies. Comey will find it hard to find another job, due to his lack of loyalty and immaturity.