Revenge attack in London?

[Putt4Dough]

NEW LONDON VAN HORROR Finsbury Park ‘attack’ sees 12 injured after hire van ploughs into Muslim worshippers leaving mosque on Seven Sisters Road after Ramadan prayers

Finsbury Park 'attack' sees 12 injured after hire van ploughs into Muslim worshippers leaving mosque on Seven Sisters Road after Ramadan prayers (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3829355/finsbury-park-attack-van-12-people-injured-muslim-mosque/)

[Taltarzac725]

NEW LONDON VAN HORROR Finsbury Park ‘attack’ sees 12 injured after hire van ploughs into Muslim worshippers leaving mosque on Seven Sisters Road after Ramadan prayers

Finsbury Park 'attack' sees 12 injured after hire van ploughs into Muslim worshippers leaving mosque on Seven Sisters Road after Ramadan prayers (https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/3829355/finsbury-park-attack-van-12-people-injured-muslim-mosque/)

Let's wait and see who did it and why.

[dirtbanker]

Let's wait and see who did it and why.

We don't have to wait, its the same each time:
A nut job coward did it. They attack unarmed / unknowing people. They want the media's attention and they want to be referred to as a terrorist or villain.

No gun law is going to stop these nut job attacks!
The only thing that will stop it; is to embarrass the nut job and do not give him the media attention he desires.

[Taltarzac725]

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/19/world/europe/uk-van-attack-london-mosque.html

Looking for information about who drove this van who hit people coming out of the mosque?

Finsbury Park attack: Counter terror police investigating after one man killed in van attack near London mosque | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/van-pedestrians-hit-run-over-casualties-latest-police-finsbury-park-mosque-muslims-seven-sisters-a7796551.html)

[Putt4Dough]

London mayor Sadiq Khan*

"Terror attacks are 'part and parcel of living in a big city" (after bomb attack in New York City)

"I'm reassured that we are one of the safest global cities in the world - if not*the safest global city in the world," (after London Bridge attack)

now what Sadiq?

[blueash]

After the June 3 car and knife attack in London, it took only a few minutes from the event's announcement for Mr. Trump to tweet and use it for his own agenda to push for a travel ban to stop Muslims. This tweet was before British government even announced that it was being investigated as a possible terrorist event.

It has now been over 12 hours since this event and I just checked Mr. Trump's real twitter account. He has been tweeting but no comment so far on this terrorist event. Wonder why.

Prime Minister May seems able to comment, many hours ago

Mrs May added: “This extremism is every bit as insidious and destructive to our values and our way of life. And we will stop at nothing to defeat it."

Also no comment from Mr Trump about the murder just a few miles from his home of 17 yo Nabra Hassanen in what seems to have been an anti-Muslim killing.

Of course it took three days and heavy media criticism for Trump to comment on the murder in Portland of men who were trying to defend a Muslim from Islamophobic attacks.

So to summarize, yes this is likely a right wing anti-Muslim terrorist attack. No Trump comment. And the murder in Virginia, likely anti-Muslim, no Trump comment. And the Portland event. Late and very weak and no comment about what intolerance got these men hurt. Just this
"The violent attacks in Portland on Friday are unacceptable. The victims were standing up to hate and intolerance."

And some still wonder why there are those who see Mr Trump as anti-Muslim, not just anti-Muslim terrorist. It is because he is quick to condemn any terrorism by Muslims against non-Muslims, but slow to never to condemn attacks against Muslims. And it is the silence of some or even the tacit encouragement that in the sick minds of those who would consider such acts is enough to get them to act.

The right is always calling for every Muslim organization and spokesperson to immediately condemn any Islamic terrorism event, fully and without hesitation to send a clear message that those events are unacceptable. And when those condemnations occur they are not even heard.

Here are three recent, two in the last 24 hours, anti-Muslim killings by likely Christianist terrorists, and I am still awaiting the full and without hesitation condemnations from the highest leader of our country.

Either you oppose terrorism or you don't. You can't say it is only evil in one direction.

[larbud]

you need this....

[Putt4Dough]

This is a list of 833 targeted acts of terrorism on Christian civilians and church workers by religious Muslims since September 11th, 2001.

Islamic Terror Attacks on Christians (Since 9/11) | Voice-of-Persecuted-Christians (https://voiceofpersected.wordpress.com/2014/08/24/588/)

Feel free to post a list of Christian attacks on Muslims since 911. In regard to the three you posted, I don't see anything pointing out the attackers as Christians.

[blueash]

London mayor Sadiq Khan*

"Terror attacks are 'part and parcel of living in a big city" (after bomb attack in New York City)


now what Sadiq?

And as it so typical you are completely wrong in attempting to distort and his words:

Here is the full context in which if you can understand context he is clearly condemning the attacks and saying that cities need to be aware of the risk and doing everything proactively and prepared to react to such events if and when they do happen. Completely different from how you cited which appears to be saying "so what" and just live with it.

Here is the full, unedited article from The Independent where that quote appeared in Sept 2016.

Sadiq Khan: London mayor says being prepared for terror attacks 'part and parcel' of living in a major city
Labour politician says capitals*'have got to be prepared' for attacks like New York bombing

Sadiq Khan has ordered a review of London's strategy for coping with multiple terror attacks Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.
The Mayor of London revealed he had a “sleepless night” after the recent bombing in New York, and said major cities around the world “have got to be prepared for these sorts of things” to happen when people least expect them.
“That means being vigilant, having a police force that is in touch with communities, it means the security services being ready, but it also means exchanging ideas and best practice”, Mr Khan told the Evening Standard shortly before a meeting with New York mayor Bill de Blasio."

But don't let facts and context influence your thinking.

[Rockyrd]

And as it so typical you are completely wrong in attempting to distort and his words:

Here is the full context in which if you can understand context he is clearly condemning the attacks and saying that cities need to be aware of the risk and doing everything proactively and prepared to react to such events if and when they do happen. Completely different from how you cited which appears to be saying "so what" and just live with it.

Here is the full, unedited article from The Independent where that quote appeared in Sept 2016.

Sadiq Khan: London mayor says being prepared for terror attacks 'part and parcel' of living in a major city
Labour politician says capitals*'have got to be prepared' for attacks like New York bombing

Sadiq Khan has ordered a review of London's strategy for coping with multiple terror attacks Sadiq Khan has said he believes the threat of terror attacks are “part and parcel of living in a big city” and encouraged Londoners to be vigilant to combat dangers.
The Mayor of London revealed he had a “sleepless night” after the recent bombing in New York, and said major cities around the world “have got to be prepared for these sorts of things” to happen when people least expect them.
“That means being vigilant, having a police force that is in touch with communities, it means the security services being ready, but it also means exchanging ideas and best practice”, Mr Khan told the Evening Standard shortly before a meeting with New York mayor Bill de Blasio."

But don't let facts and context influence your thinking.

Why would any poster, in this case Putt4Dough simply come on this forum and lie and distort quotes.

That is why you are required to credit your quotes and insure you do it correctly. But rules do not seem to apply to some.

But WHY would someone knowingly just LIE ?

The concept of being honest seems to be totally lost on some.

[Rockyrd]

Does not seem to be much in the way of sympathy for any of those run down by that car.

Most of these attacks get at least a post or two in the main area expressing sympathy.

On this thread, it is all pretty much in attack mode

Well, my prayers are with these folks, even those most do not seem to think these fellow human beings are worth it.

[Putt4Dough]

Why would any poster, in this case Putt4Dough simply come on this forum and lie and distort quotes.

That is why you are required to credit your quotes and insure you do it correctly. But rules do not seem to apply to some.

But WHY would someone knowingly just LIE ?

The concept of being honest seems to be totally lost on some.

Sadiq Khan September 2016, terrorism "part and parcel" of living in a big city - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I03IKr2TWDM)

[Rockyrd]

Sadiq Khan September 2016, terrorism "part and parcel" of living in a big city - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I03IKr2TWDM)

YOU DID NOT QUOTE HIM WITH ACCURACY IN YOUR POST.

You left part of it out, and changed the entire meaning when you posted it and took him to task.

Amazing that we and our President continue to attack the mayor of London for protecting his city as best he can and PREPARING as best he can.

You just wonder where people and their feelings have gone.

[Putt4Dough]

YOU DID NOT QUOTE HIM WITH ACCURACY IN YOUR POST.

You left part of it out, and changed the entire meaning when you posted it and took him to task.

Amazing that we and our President continue to attack the mayor of London for protecting his city as best he can and PREPARING as best he can.

You just wonder where people and their feelings have gone.

LOL I quoted his exact words, doesn't matter what he said next, his words stand on their own. It was an astounding statement and reported world wide. Doesn't look like he's doing a great job preparing or protecting either.

[Rockyrd]

LOL I quoted his exact words, doesn't matter what he said next, his words stand on their own. It was an astounding statement and reported world wide. Doesn't look like he's doing a great job preparing or protecting either.

You missed this part......"being prepared for terror attacks" and then "is part of, etc".

But despite your inability to use comprehension and understand context....

Why do you have such distaste for the Mayor London......

....because he is muslim

....because Donald Trump does not like him (because of the "total and complete ban of all Muslims" which was his original plan, and his comment that he does not need the Presidents advice

??????????

Both are really deep and of course are reason to hate him, right ?

And please do not waste time linking youtube videos from Maurie Dee....they are all propoganda videos hating on anyone that does not agree with Trump, and even though the catagory this video was in was COMEDY, even hinting at news in the same breath is just plain stupid.

[Putt4Dough]

You missed this part......"being prepared for terror attacks" and then "is part of, etc".

But despite your inability to use comprehension and understand context....

Why do you have such distaste for the Mayor London......

....because he is muslim

....because Donald Trump does not like him (because of the "total and complete ban of all Muslims" which was his original plan, and his comment that he does not need the Presidents advice

??????????

Both are really deep and of course are reason to hate him, right ?

And please do not waste time linking youtube videos from Maurie Dee....they are all propoganda videos hating on anyone that does not agree with Trump, and even though the catagory this video was in was COMEDY, even hinting at news in the same breath is just plain stupid.

The video from youtube I posted was actual video of Saddiq Khan making the statement you dolt. Who cares who posted it.

[Rockyrd]

The video from youtube I posted was actual video of Saddiq Khan making the statement you dolt. Who cares who posted it.

I do...I always want to know the source.

I watched the video, read the story when it was news.

He said "being prepared for..." which you deliberately left out of our original post. Not a minor change in meaning but a BIG BIG CHANGE

That is lying and you need to be called on it and investigating where people get garbage news is something we should all do...you know verifying it is a fact and all.

When you foster and use a lie or edit someones words, that is extremly dishonest and decitful

[Don Baldwin]

Video can no longer be trusted...it can be "Photoshopped" as easily as a picture now. They can make anyone say anything now...with expression.