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npwalters
06-21-2017, 08:47 AM
I get a news feed about The Villages in my Email everyday. I've noticed that almost every day there is an article about a "30 something person living with their parents in such and such a village was arrested for something". This kind of surprises and saddens me. First that there are so many adults living with their parents in TV and second that some of them are criminals. I'm not writing this to suggest anything. Just an observation.

Taltarzac725
06-21-2017, 09:01 AM
I get a news feed about The Villages in my Email everyday. I've noticed that almost every day there is an article about a "30 something person living with their parents in such and such a village was arrested for something". This kind of surprises and saddens me. First that there are so many adults living with their parents in TV and second that some of them are criminals. I'm not writing this to suggest anything. Just an observation.

The population of the Villages is around 160,000 now so there are bound to be some people committing crimes within this vast number. These are of various ages. The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida)

redwitch
06-21-2017, 09:05 AM
Sadly, our problems don't go away just because we moved here. If our children have a drug or alcohol problem, our first instinct is to help them. Even sadder, that "help" comes in the form of enabling. So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes.

On the plus side, there are several adult children living here that you will never hear about. They are the ones who gave up their lives in another town to become caretakers. They are our unsung heroes. Fortunately, there are more of these Heroes here than you can possibly imagine.

npwalters
06-21-2017, 09:13 AM
The population of the Villages is around 160,000 now so there are bound to be some people committing crimes within this vast number. These are of various ages. The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida)

One would assume that since TV is a 55 and over community that at least 80%(?) of the population is over 55. Yet about half of the crime reported is by persons under 55. Pretty sure that number is disproportionate to the population as a whole.

justjim
06-21-2017, 09:36 AM
The population of the Villages is around 160,000 now so there are bound to be some people committing crimes within this vast number. These are of various ages. The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida)

For what it's worth, the population of The Villages itself is more like 115,000 during the winter months. This time of the year it's less than 100,000. The number quoted is including the surrounding communities outside of The Villages. The facts are crime is really quite low and the safest place we have lived. :eclipsee_gold_cup:

Chatbrat
06-21-2017, 10:33 AM
On the unmentioned website--there was a big police raid on a house near Tierra Del Sol, lots of deputies & an armored vehicle

joldnol
06-21-2017, 10:40 AM
One would assume that since TV is a 55 and over community that at least 80%(?) of the population is over 55. Yet about half of the crime reported is by persons under 55. Pretty sure that number is disproportionate to the population as a whole.

90 percent of statistics are made up.

Allegiance
06-21-2017, 10:42 AM
Sadly, our problems don't go away just because we moved here. If our children have a drug or alcohol problem, our first instinct is to help them. Even sadder, that "help" comes in the form of enabling. So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes.

On the plus side, there are several adult children living here that you will never hear about. They are the ones who gave up their lives in another town to become caretakers. They are our unsung heroes. Fortunately, there are more of these Heroes here than you can possibly imagine.

"So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes."

Some of them are HUGE MISTAKES. Hope their mommies are reading this.

njbchbum
06-21-2017, 10:45 AM
I get a news feed about The Villages in my Email everyday. I've noticed that almost every day there is an article about a "30 something person living with their parents in such and such a village was arrested for something". This kind of surprises and saddens me. First that there are so many adults living with their parents in TV and second that some of them are criminals. I'm not writing this to suggest anything. Just an observation.

What age group is committing the crimes where you live now?

As has been said, many folks just don't stop loving their children and will always be there when they need help. Bless them as well as the parents who are in the care of their children.

njbchbum
06-21-2017, 10:49 AM
"So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes."

Some of them are HUGE MISTAKES. Hope their mommies are reading this.

Regardless of whether or not the parents ever "truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them", residents will live with them as they do every other neighbor who has/had offended the law or not.

Miles42
06-21-2017, 11:09 AM
On the unmentioned website--there was a big police raid on a house near Tierra Del Sol, lots of deputies & an armored vehicle

drugs being sold from the house also golf cart chop shop

Rapscallion St Croix
06-21-2017, 12:24 PM
One would assume that since TV is a 55 and over community that at least 80%(?) of the population is over 55. Yet about half of the crime reported is by persons under 55. Pretty sure that number is disproportionate to the population as a whole.

Old people need to step up their game.

Allegiance
06-21-2017, 02:00 PM
Old people need to step up their game.
Keep an eye out on any house that has adult children living at home. If you see something, say something.

Gpsma
06-21-2017, 02:11 PM
Keep an eye out on any house that has adult children living at home. If you see something, say something.

Bit of an over generalization with a pinch of paranoia thrown in for flavor.

I know many adult children that live with their older parents. None are criminals or drug dealers. Some have fallen on hard times because of divorce or job loss, some have moved back to care for their parents, and others just never left the nest but they work and are not parasites to their parents.

Id be more concerned if it were a 20-something grandchild that all of a sudden showed up to live with their grandparents.

manaboutown
06-21-2017, 02:22 PM
Unless the adult children or grandchildren are caregivers to their parents or dependent on them due to physical and/or mental challenges most assuredly they are what used to be referred to as "undesirables" of one type or another. They have serious substance abuse issues, criminal histories or other problems which are unlikely, unfortunately, to go away. Needless to say they are incapable of functioning out in society as independent adults. IMHO they do not belong in a 55 and over community which is why some such communities are very strict about not allowing anyone under 55 other than a spouse or caregiver to live there.

Bogie Shooter
06-21-2017, 02:26 PM
One would assume that since TV is a 55 and over community that at least 80%(?) of the population is over 55. Yet about half of the crime reported is by persons under 55. Pretty sure that number is disproportionate to the population as a whole.

And you would be wrong.

dbussone
06-21-2017, 02:44 PM
I can see a new reality show on the Velocity channel. Villages Chop Shop.


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Bonny
06-21-2017, 03:29 PM
I know quite a few people that their kids live with them and mom & dad love it. The kids are not married & work in the area.

Taltarzac725
06-21-2017, 03:58 PM
I know quite a few people that their kids live with them and mom & dad love it. The kids are not married & work in the area.

I could probably move to DC, LA, or NYC and do well with stuff but am taking care of the parents right now. I have been here since 2005 though but have worked on something that got the attention of Gary Corsair then a reporter for The Villages Daily Sun. This was about my advocacy to get the Florida Victim Services Directory connected to the Marion, Lake and Sumter County Library Systems' web-sites. Mr. Corsair's article came out on Memorial Day 2007 but I have worked on other stuff in many states and even some other countries. It is a very creative effort so it would look strange to some people unfamiliar with the issues involved and more importantly with some of the people.

npwalters
06-21-2017, 06:27 PM
And you would be wrong.

Have been before. Which part is -in your opinion - wrong?

Buffalo Jim
06-21-2017, 07:20 PM
Have been before. Which part is -in your opinion - wrong?

Just guessing but perhaps it is the notion that the " children " in question are actually " adults " .

Allegiance
06-21-2017, 07:22 PM
I could probably move to DC, LA, or NYC and do well with stuff but am taking care of the parents right now. I have been here since 2005 though but have worked on something that got the attention of Gary Corsair then a reporter for The Villages Daily Sun. This was about my advocacy to get the Florida Victim Services Directory connected to the Marion, Lake and Sumter County Library Systems' web-sites. Mr. Corsair's article came out on Memorial Day 2007 but I have worked on other stuff in many states and even some other countries. It is a very creative effort so it would look strange to some people unfamiliar with the issues involved and more importantly with some of the people.

A good man... Mr. Corsair

chuckinca
06-21-2017, 07:37 PM
I could probably move to DC, LA, or NYC and do well with stuff but am taking care of the parents right now. I have been here since 2005 though but have worked on something that got the attention of Gary Corsair then a reporter for The Villages Daily Sun. This was about my advocacy to get the Florida Victim Services Directory connected to the Marion, Lake and Sumter County Library Systems' web-sites. Mr. Corsair's article came out on Memorial Day 2007 but I have worked on other stuff in many states and even some other countries. It is a very creative effort so it would look strange to some people unfamiliar with the issues involved and more importantly with some of the people.

Keep up the good work Tal !

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dillywho
06-21-2017, 11:21 PM
Sadly, our problems don't go away just because we moved here. If our children have a drug or alcohol problem, our first instinct is to help them. Even sadder, that "help" comes in the form of enabling. So, until the parents truly see that supporting these offspring does not help them, the rest of us have to put up with these mistakes.

On the plus side, there are several adult children living here that you will never hear about. They are the ones who gave up their lives in another town to become caretakers. They are our unsung heroes. Fortunately, there are more of these Heroes here than you can possibly imagine.

You hit it right on, as usual. Just like anything else, the good go totally unnoticed. Thank you for recognizing them. They do get far little recognition, even though they don't do it for recognition, but out of love. :BigApplause:

dillywho
06-21-2017, 11:26 PM
Book 'em, Danno.

I don't like either one; golf cart chop shops or drug dealing.

AND how short of time they will be incarcerated before they bail out. Florida has revolving door jails and judges who need to be kicked in the fanny.

Let's see if this will copy from the V-I-l-l-a-g-e-s N-e-w-s;


"Sumter County sheriff’s deputies executed a search warrant this morning at a troubled property in The Villages.
The house at 1902 Antonia Place previously has made headlines.
Frustrated, overwhelmed neighbors showed up earlier this month at a Community Development District 1 supervisors’ meeting to complain about the unkempt property located near Tierra Del Sol Recreation Center. They also hinted at what they suspected was illicit activity at the home.
Shortly after 6 a.m. today, the might of the sheriff’s office descended on the problematic home. The SWAT team executed a search warrant obtained after a confidential informant helped orchestrate three drug buys on three different occasions at the home"

The rest is interesting as well. Seems an elderly man lives there with a 41 year old niece who has "friends" staying there.

Grace, I got out of the article that he no longer resides in the home but does still own it. He let her live there (don't know if she was supposed to take care of him for a while or why he left) and that's when she moved her "friends" in with her.

Taltarzac725
06-22-2017, 07:22 AM
You hit it right on, as usual. Just like anything else, the good go totally unnoticed. Thank you for recognizing them. They do get far little recognition, even though they don't do it for recognition, but out of love. :BigApplause:

I have met or heard of many 30-60 year olds who take care of their parents here in the Villages. Two were living with a leader of a Catholic church of volunteers when their house got struck by lightning and then burned down. Fortunately they were not in it nor was anyone else. A few doors south of them there had been a meth lab a few years prior to that. This was kids of the owner who got arrested. I do remember some neighbors speculating that another meth lab was involved. Just a lightning strike however.

Sometimes fate is kind some times it is fickle. And some of us just have to deal the best we can with the hand dealt us by life.

Allegiance
06-22-2017, 09:09 AM
There is no doubt the crimes committed by adult children is disproportionate to their numbers.

Neighbors should be aware of their presence.

This is especially true of the "children" that never left home.

Taltarzac725
06-22-2017, 09:19 AM
Keep up the good work Tal !

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I am getting a lot of help. People have seemed to have given me a very broad canvas to work with. Those actors and actresses at the Guthrie Theater in Minneapolis put some ideas into my head around 1990. Probably while I was enjoying the play Harvey! Looks like it has returned too up there. Theater review: "Harvey" at the Guthrie Theater in Minneapolis - StarTribune.com (http://www.startribune.com/theater-review-harvey-at-the-guthrie-theater-in-minneapolis/375992331/) Guthrie Theater production history - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guthrie_Theater_production_history)

manaboutown
06-22-2017, 10:21 AM
There is no doubt the crimes committed by adult children is disproportionate to their numbers.

Neighbors should be aware of their presence.

This is especially true of the "children" that never left home.

:beer3:

Some of them are "yo-yo" kids, not really children anymore, at least by their age and appearance. They remain perpetually dependent on society and/or their parents. Although a minuscule number of them are among those getting divorced, experiencing serious health issues or temporary financial difficulties due job loss or sickness, most are back from living on the street, rehab, half-way houses or from prison.

Allegiance
06-22-2017, 10:42 AM
:beer3:

Some of them are "yo-yo" kids, not really children anymore, at least by their age and appearance. They remain perpetually dependent on society and/or their parents. Although a minuscule number of them are among those getting divorced, experiencing serious health issues or temporary financial difficulties due job loss or sickness, most are back from living on the street, rehab, half-way houses or from prison.
Often these yo-yo kids that lack life experience are troublemakers with no social skills. They are the squeaky wheel that often give the villages a bad reputation, even if the actions are not criminal in nature.

manaboutown
06-22-2017, 12:10 PM
Check out on the unnameable news site the mug shots and short bios of the 5 arrestees who were at a TV house law enforcement recently raided. A rough bunch of Villagers indeed! The only one over 55 was a 63 year old who last year was a squatter in an unoccupied TV house.

Taltarzac725
06-22-2017, 02:01 PM
Check out on the unnameable news site the mug shots and short bios of the 5 arrestees who were at a TV house law enforcement recently raided. A rough bunch of Villagers indeed! The only one over 55 was a 63 year old who last year was a squatter in an unoccupied TV house.

I will check out that article.

ColdNoMore
06-22-2017, 03:49 PM
Often these yo-yo kids that lack life experience are troublemakers with no social skills. They are the squeaky wheel that often give the villages a bad reputation, even if the actions are not criminal in nature.

Please explain how these people of which you speak, are "troublemakers"...if they're not doing anything illegal or criminal?

Barefoot
07-27-2017, 01:10 PM
Often these yo-yo kids that lack life experience are troublemakers with no social skills. They are the squeaky wheel that often give the villages a bad reputation, even if the actions are not criminal in nature.

Please explain how these people of which you speak, are "troublemakers"...if they're not doing anything illegal or criminal?How can they be giving The Villages a bad reputation, if they're not doing anything illegal or criminal in nature. :confused:

Jake_
07-29-2017, 12:52 PM
Bit of an over generalization with a pinch of paranoia thrown in for flavor.

I know many adult children that live with their older parents. None are criminals or drug dealers. Some have fallen on hard times because of divorce or job loss, some have moved back to care for their parents, and others just never left the nest but they work and are not parasites to their parents.

Id be more concerned if it were a 20-something grandchild that all of a sudden showed up to live with their grandparents.
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.

Taltarzac725
07-29-2017, 02:45 PM
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.

Do not let some of these posters get you down. They are in no way indicative of what most Villagers are like.

Bonny
07-29-2017, 03:21 PM
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.
I know a lot of younger people in the Villages and we are friends with many of them. Several are here helping their parents.
I love the younger crowd and think it is awful when people on here judge people & blame the younger ones for any trouble.
We have lots of the older folks drinking & driving, getting DUI's, have pulled guns on people, fought with people, threw trash out of their car/cart, stole golf clubs from the country clubs, stole their neighbors property, stole golf carts, vandalized property and on and on.
Pay no attention to the ones that place blame. Many of us here have no problems at all with the younger ones living here. :)
P.S. Many of the older people here ride a motorcycle, carry a concealed weapon and have tattoos.

Barefoot
07-29-2017, 03:52 PM
Im 24 and live in the villages.
Welcome to the TOTV Forum. We need posts from a wide range of ages! :welcome:

Jake_
07-29-2017, 03:59 PM
Do not let some of these posters get you down. They are in no way indicative of what most Villagers are like.

I know a lot of younger people in the Villages and we are friends with many of them. Several are here helping their parents.
I love the younger crowd and think it is awful when people on here judge people & blame the younger ones for any trouble.
We have lots of the older folks drinking & driving, getting DUI's, have pulled guns on people, fought with people, threw trash out of their car/cart, stole golf clubs from the country clubs, stole their neighbors property, stole golf carts, vandalized property and on and on.
Pay no attention to the ones that place blame. Many of us here have no problems at all with the younger ones living here. :)
P.S. Many of the older people here ride a motorcycle, carry a concealed weapon and have tattoos.

Welcome to the TOTV Forum. We need posts from a wide range of ages! :welcome:


Thank you all for the warm welcome. I have had many many many positive interactions since I moved here, however like anywhere you have small closed minded people. =]

ColdNoMore
07-29-2017, 04:47 PM
Thank you all for the warm welcome. I have had many many many positive interactions since I moved here, however like anywhere you have small closed minded people. =]

Well stated.

There are also a few that have an unhealthy obsession with those that they don't think 'belong here,' but the good news is...they are easy to identify. :D

dbussone
07-29-2017, 05:16 PM
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.



I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.



Welcome Jake! There are plenty of us here who appreciate you and those like you. There is a young man in our neighborhood who is really nice as well.

Illegitimi non carborundum est. (Don't let them [old folks] get you down.)


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Nucky
07-29-2017, 05:40 PM
FORGETABOUIT! You're in. Welcome.

John_W
07-29-2017, 05:50 PM
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.

From Villages News July 29, 2017

84-year-old Villager sentenced after dispute in drive-through lane at Wendy’s

An 84-year-old Villager will have to undergo anger management training after a dispute in the drive-through lane at Wendy’s on Bichara Boulevard in The Villages.

Leo Applegate of the Village of La Reynalda entered a plea of no contest to a charge of battery earlier this month in Lake County Court. He has been placed on probation for six months and ordered to pay $625 in a variety of court and prosecution fees.

Applegate had gone at lunchtime on July 2 in his golf cart to the drive-through lane at the fast-food restaurant.

He did not want to accept the restaurant’s drink holder and tried to push his preferred drink holder through the window. A Wendy’s employee tried to close the window, but Applegate grabbed the woman’s wrist to stop the window from closing. The woman told Lady Lake police that Applegate cursed and yelled at her. Applegate, who had gotten out of his golf cart, “continued his insults from outside,” until police arrived on the scene and separated him from Wendy’s employees.

Applegate admitted to police he had tried to keep the window open and said he did not understand why they would not let him push his drink holder inside for them to use.

Villager jailed without bond after allegedly scratching deputy who tried to arrest her

A 59-year-old Villager was jailed without bond after allegedly scratching a deputy who tried to arrest her Wednesday at her home.

Sumter County sheriff’s deputies went to the home of Debra Jean Freeman on Woodridge Drive to place her under arrest on a charge of failure to appear in a battery case. She had been arrested earlier this year on the battery charge after allegedly throwing cream soda at a man at her home.

Deputies arrived at Freeman’s home Wednesday night and instructed her to put on her shoes as she was being placed under arrest. As deputies attempted to take her into custody, she scratched at a deputy and left him with blood dripping from a two-inch cut on his hand.

She was taken into custody on additional charges of battery and resisting arrest.

graciegirl
07-31-2017, 04:43 PM
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.

Just because times have changed so much. Do you go to class, or attend college on line. I am just being nosy.

Allegiance
07-31-2017, 04:47 PM
Im 24 and live in the villages....... I ride a motorcycle, concealed carry a pistol and have tattoos. But I also go to college full time and work, you dont see me on the news getting arrested, its all about the individual and not the age.

I see plenty of people over the age of 55 getting arrested........ like the lated that was arrested just standing in the middle of the road in nothing but black leather boots.Very excellent. Get armed, get trained, carry daily!

Jake_
07-31-2017, 06:27 PM
Just because times have changed so much. Do you go to class, or attend college on line. I am just being nosy.

I attend the classes, I havnt tried the online classes yet although I plan too.