$40 million in recreation upgrades

[jaringg]

Does any one know if this was ever done?

Villages settles lawsuit, will fund $40 million in recreation upgrades
Article Courtesy of The Orlando Sentinel
By Stephen Hudak
Published Match 9, 2008

THE VILLAGES - The powerful developer and corporations behind The Villages have agreed in a civil court settlement to pay $40 million over 13 years to cover improvements and repairs to recreation centers, swimming pools and other facilities that make the retirement community alluring.

The class-action lawsuit contended monthly amenity fees paid by every homeowner in the sprawling community of 70,000 residents had been misused by The Villages of Lake-Sumter Inc., the Village Center Community Development District and developer H. Gary Morse.

Under the settlement, the money will replenish depleted accounts used to finance facility improvements and pay pool monitors, after-hours golf ambassadors and Neighborhood Watch staff.

The lawsuit was prompted by residents like Elaine Dreidame, 64, who complained about mildew and mold in the ceiling tiles of the Paradise Recreation Center, where she played bridge twice a week.

Dreidame, who moved to the retirement community in 1999, figured "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" had money set aside to improve its oldest recreational facility.

Well, not enough, she found out.

The retired university administrator from Dayton, Ohio, grew more concerned as she began noting similar, subtle drop-offs in other services throughout the community that she affectionately calls "year-round adult summer camp."

The money is supposed to be used to maintain the golf courses, swimming pools and other comforts that make The Villages a desirable home for active, older adults.

Long-shot lawsuit

The lawsuit seemed unlikely to succeed, according to court records showing that a retired judge and six major law firms from Tallahassee to Miami declined to take it.

But the case concluded last week in Lake County, where Circuit Judge Lawrence Semento approved a settlement agreement that requires the developer to pay about $40 million over the next 13 years to replenish maintenance accounts.

The settlement also requires the defendants to pay $50,000 each to Dreidame and four other named plaintiffs and $6.7 million to the plaintiffs' brother-sister legal team, Dougald McMillan and Carol McMillan Anderson.

Carol Anderson said she took the case because she lives in The Villages.

Her brother, a practicing lawyer for 50 years, was best known for prosecuting organized crime figure Meyer Lansky.

Through their defense lawyers, Stephen Johnson and Archie Lowery, Morse and the other defendants denied any wrongdoing or misappropriation.

"[The developer] has looked at the settlement as an issue of what's good for the community," Johnson said Wednesday in court.

The settlement includes confidentiality and nondisparagement clauses, which prevent the parties from discussing the case or criticizing Morse or The Villages.

'David and Goliath'

Donald Maciejewski, a Jacksonville lawyer who has handled mass-plaintiff air-disaster cases, called the lawsuit a "true David and Goliath" case, citing the defendants' financial strength.

In an affidavit submitted to the judge to justify attorney fees, Maciejewski said the novelty and complexity of the case suggested that the plaintiffs' chances for success were "virtually zero."

He also pointed out that McMillan and Anderson were "a last resort."

Dreidame had said that if the siblings wouldn't take their case, "she was going to drop the issue . . . and get back to enjoying retirement," Maciejewski said.

Anderson praised Morse and his lawyers, saying the settlement proves they have the community's best interest at heart.

Tee-time limits

The settlement also includes other provisions that can be classified as uniquely The Villages, including limits on the number of tee times that can be reserved by the developer's sales staff for prospective customers.

The developer also will provide money to widen six miles of golf-cart paths to better accommodate bicyclists, joggers and roller-skaters.

The agreement also creates a resident-controlled "Amenity Authority Committee" that will have a louder voice in the use of amenity fees.

[graciegirl]

Does any one know if this was ever done?

Villages settles lawsuit, will fund $40 million in recreation upgrades
Article Courtesy of The Orlando Sentinel
By Stephen Hudak
Published Match 9, 2008

THE VILLAGES - The powerful developer and corporations behind The Villages have agreed in a civil court settlement to pay $40 million over 13 years to cover improvements and repairs to recreation centers, swimming pools and other facilities that make the retirement community alluring.

The class-action lawsuit contended monthly amenity fees paid by every homeowner in the sprawling community of 70,000 residents had been misused by The Villages of Lake-Sumter Inc., the Village Center Community Development District and developer H. Gary Morse.

Under the settlement, the money will replenish depleted accounts used to finance facility improvements and pay pool monitors, after-hours golf ambassadors and Neighborhood Watch staff.

The lawsuit was prompted by residents like Elaine Dreidame, 64, who complained about mildew and mold in the ceiling tiles of the Paradise Recreation Center, where she played bridge twice a week.

Dreidame, who moved to the retirement community in 1999, figured "Florida's Friendliest Hometown" had money set aside to improve its oldest recreational facility.

Well, not enough, she found out.

The retired university administrator from Dayton, Ohio, grew more concerned as she began noting similar, subtle drop-offs in other services throughout the community that she affectionately calls "year-round adult summer camp."

The money is supposed to be used to maintain the golf courses, swimming pools and other comforts that make The Villages a desirable home for active, older adults.

Long-shot lawsuit

The lawsuit seemed unlikely to succeed, according to court records showing that a retired judge and six major law firms from Tallahassee to Miami declined to take it.

But the case concluded last week in Lake County, where Circuit Judge Lawrence Semento approved a settlement agreement that requires the developer to pay about $40 million over the next 13 years to replenish maintenance accounts.

The settlement also requires the defendants to pay $50,000 each to Dreidame and four other named plaintiffs and $6.7 million to the plaintiffs' brother-sister legal team, Dougald McMillan and Carol McMillan Anderson.

Carol Anderson said she took the case because she lives in The Villages.

Her brother, a practicing lawyer for 50 years, was best known for prosecuting organized crime figure Meyer Lansky.

Through their defense lawyers, Stephen Johnson and Archie Lowery, Morse and the other defendants denied any wrongdoing or misappropriation.

"[The developer] has looked at the settlement as an issue of what's good for the community," Johnson said Wednesday in court.

The settlement includes confidentiality and nondisparagement clauses, which prevent the parties from discussing the case or criticizing Morse or The Villages.

'David and Goliath'

Donald Maciejewski, a Jacksonville lawyer who has handled mass-plaintiff air-disaster cases, called the lawsuit a "true David and Goliath" case, citing the defendants' financial strength.

In an affidavit submitted to the judge to justify attorney fees, Maciejewski said the novelty and complexity of the case suggested that the plaintiffs' chances for success were "virtually zero."

He also pointed out that McMillan and Anderson were "a last resort."

Dreidame had said that if the siblings wouldn't take their case, "she was going to drop the issue . . . and get back to enjoying retirement," Maciejewski said.

Anderson praised Morse and his lawyers, saying the settlement proves they have the community's best interest at heart.

Tee-time limits

The settlement also includes other provisions that can be classified as uniquely The Villages, including limits on the number of tee times that can be reserved by the developer's sales staff for prospective customers.

The developer also will provide money to widen six miles of golf-cart paths to better accommodate bicyclists, joggers and roller-skaters.

The agreement also creates a resident-controlled "Amenity Authority Committee" that will have a louder voice in the use of amenity fees.

Yes. The money has been used for the intended purposes. Several individuals were awarded large amounts as well. Some of us think this lawsuit was unwarranted. I have never seen any recreation facilities not in good repair and we owned here during this event.

[champion6]

As the last sentence states, "The agreement also creates a resident-controlled "Amenity Authority Committee" that will have a louder voice in the use of amenity fees." This group carries on today for the area north of CR 466.

[graciegirl]

As the last sentence states, "The agreement also creates a resident-controlled "Amenity Authority Committee" that will have a louder voice in the use of amenity fees." This group carries on today for the area north of CR 466.

To me the difference between the North of 466 and the south of 466 is evident.

I hope the OP will further explain his reason for posting this old news.

[jaringg]

Why do I need a reason. Just trying to find out how things work here. I am sure that you have an answer.

[Bogie Shooter]

Why do I need a reason. Just trying to find out how things work here. I am sure that you have an answer.

Try searching this site........

[Maddie2009]

I find the news interesting and useful information since I just bought here. Many different opinions, but the "Amenity Authority Committee" should be a good thing that came out of it.

[skip0358]

Some people dig up old posts just to start the Mud slinging also. As far as I'm concerned things are just fine and when something needs to be fixed and the right people are notified it's taken care of.

[twoplanekid]

I understand that many topics and questions have been asked and answered many, many, many times since the beginning of talkofthevillages. However, as TV continues to grow and old memories fade, both new and old posters will be asking these same questions over and over again. They should be encouraged to ask questions about the history of TV and to discuss their thinking about things in TV. In time and we should give them time, they will become better citizens of TV. So, to the posters who are probably tired of these same questions and topics I say, give people a break or just take a break.

[ColdNoMore]

I understand that many topics and questions have been asked and answered many, many, many times since the beginning of talkofthevillages. However, as TV continues to grow and old memories fade, both new and old posters will be asking these same questions over and over again. They should be encouraged to ask questions about the history of TV and to discuss their thinking about things in TV. In time and we should give them time, they will become better citizens of TV.

So, to the posters who are probably tired of these same questions and topics I say, give people a break or just take a break.

:bigbow: :bigbow: :bigbow:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Improvements abound. Don't overlook the six inch golf cups.

[Dutchman]

Perhaps a tutorial on the SEARCH function as part of a new member orientation would be beneficial. Or, maybe that's too logical.

[twoplanekid]

Perhaps a tutorial on the SEARCH function as part of a new member orientation would be beneficial. Or, maybe that's too logical.

Maybe. However, as most threads are closed over time, you can’t ask a question unless you start a new thread. As I recall from my learning days, questions were always encouraged.

[graciegirl]

I understand that many topics and questions have been asked and answered many, many, many times since the beginning of talkofthevillages. However, as TV continues to grow and old memories fade, both new and old posters will be asking these same questions over and over again. They should be encouraged to ask questions about the history of TV and to discuss their thinking about things in TV. In time and we should give them time, they will become better citizens of TV. So, to the posters who are probably tired of these same questions and topics I say, give people a break or just take a break.

The OP appears to be angry with the recreation department and it's director, John Rohan and has told us he is not allowed to use the recreation facilities because he "touched an employee".

The OP is not new to The Villages.

It is not uncommon for many people, after having lived here for several years to form the opinion that this is indeed a very nice place to live. Many of us develop kind of a "home town" loyalty to this area and it's inhabitants and feel defensive when there is what we consider to be unwarranted criticism.

Not me. I blindly worship The Morse Family and everything they do.

GRACE GANTNER.

[twoplanekid]

The OP appears to be angry with the recreation department and it's director, John Rohan and has told us he is not allowed to use the recreation facilities because he "touched an employee".

The OP is not new to The Villages.

It is not uncommon for many people, after having lived here for several years to form the opinion that this is indeed a very nice place to live. Many of us develop kind of a "home town" loyalty to this area and it's inhabitants and feel defensive when there is what we consider to be unwarranted criticism.

Not me. I blindly worship The Morse Family and everything they do.

GRACE GANTNER.

Sorry, I many times forget who posts what, when and where. Now, your name does seem to ring a bell. :wave:

[autumnspring]

You sound very unhappy here. Homes sell quickly in The Villages. You could make a very nice profit and find a community more to your liking.

Just saying.

I am entirely with Gracie on the home town loyalty here..

Imagine what this place would be like if the inmates were running the asylum.

[Bogie Shooter]

Why do I need a reason. Just trying to find out how things work here. I am sure that you have an answer.

You can start here:
Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org)
Property Owners, Association of Florida (http://www.poa4us.com)
Home Page - The VHA (http://www.thevha.net)

[Madelaine Amee]

You can start here:
Village Community Development Districts (http://www.districtgov.org)
Property Owners, Association of Florida (http://www.poa4us.com)
Home Page - The VHA (http://www.thevha.net)

Bogie - Thank goodness you can always be relied upon to bring commonsense to a discussion.

[Bogie Shooter]

Well, thank ya Ma'am.:ho:

[Maddie2009]

Maybe. However, as most threads are closed over time, you can’t ask a question unless you start a new thread. As I recall from my learning days, questions were always encouraged.

I think that I will love living at TV as I had such a good time during my 22 days there. Can't wait to return. However, I think that people should not be mean with any posts that they do not like seeing for tired of seeing. I think the Morse family has done a good job for TV. But, we can keep an open mind for every thing.

From a new kid on the block, :) Sorry, if you are mad at me :( lol

[Madelaine Amee]

I think that I will love living at TV as I had such a good time during my 22 days there. Can't wait to return. However, I think that people should not be mean with any posts that they do not like seeing for tired of seeing. I think the Morse family has done a good job for TV. But, we can keep an open mind for every thing.

From a new kid on the block, :) Sorry, if you are mad at me :( lol

#1. As a new kid on the block you will probably be told you do not a right to say anything ... well we were all new once and we all have a right to our opinions.

#2. Do not apologize, you may upset people around here, but so be it.

#3. Welcome to TOTV - new blood is always welcome.

[Madelaine Amee]

Well, thank ya Ma'am.:ho:

You don't say much, but what you do say carries a lot of weight.;) I was brought up on the saying "empty vessels make the most noise!"

[pauld315]

Perhaps a tutorial on the SEARCH function as part of a new member orientation would be beneficial. Or, maybe that's too logical.

Or, maybe, the search function on this forum essentially is useless compared to what is commercially available. This is coming from somebody with 40 years in the IT industry.

[pauld315]

I understand that many topics and questions have been asked and answered many, many, many times since the beginning of talkofthevillages. However, as TV continues to grow and old memories fade, both new and old posters will be asking these same questions over and over again. They should be encouraged to ask questions about the history of TV and to discuss their thinking about things in TV. In time and we should give them time, they will become better citizens of TV. So, to the posters who are probably tired of these same questions and topics I say, give people a break or just take a break.

Now, there is a real voice of reason. This is nobody's personal forum, it is meant for all. If you don't like answering the same questions...then just don't say anything. Your life and everyone else's becomes much less stressful and pleasant.

[Dutchman]

Or, maybe, the search function on this forum essentially is useless compared to what is commercially available. This is coming from somebody with 40 years in the IT industry.

You got me beat by 2 years. :posting:

[Mleeja]

Now, there is a real voice of reason. This is nobody's personal forum, it is meant for all. If you don't like answering the same questions...then just don't say anything. Your life and everyone else's becomes much less stressful and pleasant.

I am suspicious of a post where a poster starts off by using an article from the Orlando Senital about The Villages. There is rarely anything good written about The Villages or the developers in this paper.

I support helping new residents or participants in the forum learn more about The Villages. However in this case, the OP shows a join date of 2010. If they hadn't heard of the lawsuit and its results, I would question where they have been for the last seven years. My BS meter is going off the charts on this original post....

[graciegirl]

Bogie - Thank goodness you can always be relied upon to bring commonsense to a discussion.

Madelaine Amee and I agree on your wisdom at least.



Patience, Grasshopper

[Nucky]

Madelaine Amee and I agree on your wisdom at least.



Patience, Grasshopper

You guys had patience with me and I turned it around. Almost!:1rotfl::clap2:

We are amazed at the constant upkeep and refurbishing of this that or the other thing all the time. You should see the effort that is being put into the Bocci Court area near the Paradise Recreation Building. The Silver Lake Pool is beautiful, just completed. We don't get overlooked in the Historic Section that I know of at all. We a very pleased and also easy to please.

[justjim]

Just an observation on amenities and such from being in TV approximately 10 years. The further south you go in TV you see more recreational facilities and the wider multi-modal trails put in from day one with many many golf courses and four lane main roads which tells us that the current TV evolved over a period of years. I believe Gary Morse saw that too. Who knows, perhaps that was why he agreed to the 40 million dollar settlement. Many areas north of 466 have improvements to their multi-modal paths and other facilities because of the settlement. In short, TV went from a manufacture home community with two executive courses and a 18 hole golf course and a couple of recreational centers to what it is now. Just an observation.......