Major discovery in nazca peru

[Lottoguy]

I heard about this strange discovery on Coast to Coast radio. Some archaeologists while working in Nazca, Peru. Found this in a cave. What are your thoughts on this?

SPECIAL REPORT: UNEARTHING NAZCA | Only on Gaia.com! - YouTube (https://youtu.be/xZPDhPeQnRY)

Missing link, unknown species or something else? Strange indeed.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I heard about this strange discovery on Coast to Coast radio. Some archaeologists while working in Nazca, Peru. Found this in a cave. What are your thoughts on this?

SPECIAL REPORT: UNEARTHING NAZCA | Only on Gaia.com! - YouTube (https://youtu.be/xZPDhPeQnRY)

Missing link, unknown species or something else? Strange indeed.

What a load of baloney.

[Lottoguy]

If it's a hoax how do you fake Carbon 14 dating to the 3rd century? This is a strange one. It would be an easy manicure since their are only 3 fingers to work on.

[Taltarzac725]

I heard about this strange discovery on Coast to Coast radio. Some archaeologists while working in Nazca, Peru. Found this in a cave. What are your thoughts on this?

SPECIAL REPORT: UNEARTHING NAZCA | Only on Gaia.com! - YouTube (https://youtu.be/xZPDhPeQnRY)

Missing link, unknown species or something else? Strange indeed.

I will have to look into it.

[Lottoguy]

Special Report: Unearthing Nazca
In the spring of 2017, Gaia filmmakers joined researchers and scientists just outside of Nazca, Peru to investigate an unearthed mummified body. Independent scientists and universities are currently analyzing findings, with initial examinations suggesting the possibility of material unlike anything found in the fossil record.
“We are exploring a finding that could be one of the most important discoveries of our time,” said Jaymi Bauer, CMO of Gaia. “As the scientific analysis comes in we will report out the results. As we learn more, our members will learn more. This is a real-time uncovering of epic potential.”

[graciegirl]

Well Gaia is a gooney "consciousness raising" site.

And this has no validity that I can find.

When you google Nazca, Peru, there is nothing about a scientific discovery.


News about Nazca Peru
bing.com/news

Crackpot conspiracy claims ALIEN MUMMY has been found Near Peru’s Nazca Lines
The Sun*· 6 minutes ago
A CRACKPOT video created by conspiracy theorists purports to show a mummified ALIEN body. Supposedly filmed in the ancient city of Nazca, Peru, the ridiculous footage has gone viral despite users …

Did Researchers Find a Mummified, Three-fingered Alien in Nazca, Peru?
snopes.com*· 19 hours ago
On 20 June 2017, the web site Gaia.com published a video purporting to show the excavation and examination of a mummified body in Nazca, Peru: In the spring of …

[Taltarzac725]

Special Report: Unearthing Nazca
In the spring of 2017, Gaia filmmakers joined researchers and scientists just outside of Nazca, Peru to investigate an unearthed mummified body. Independent scientists and universities are currently analyzing findings, with initial examinations suggesting the possibility of material unlike anything found in the fossil record.
“We are exploring a finding that could be one of the most important discoveries of our time,” said Jaymi Bauer, CMO of Gaia. “As the scientific analysis comes in we will report out the results. As we learn more, our members will learn more. This is a real-time uncovering of epic potential.”

Thanks for bringing this to our attention, Lottoguy.

[graciegirl]

What a load of baloney.

You always say things better than I do.

[Lottoguy]

A team composed of researchers from 5 countries concluded that the mummy of the humanoid discovered in nazca is not related to current human beings and is 2400 years old! The Global presentation will be in Lima on July 11!

[Rapscallion St Croix]

If it's a hoax how do you fake Carbon 14 dating to the 3rd century? This is a strange one. It would be an easy manicure since their are only 3 fingers to work on.

I am happy to explain. Hoaxes are comprised of lies. That is a lie.

[chuckinca]

Sure has a bunch of experts in many fields from all over the world looking at it. If it's a hoax it has a very high price.

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[Rapscallion St Croix]

Sure has a bunch of experts in many fields from all over the world looking at it. If it's a hoax it has a very high price.

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Yeah. One of those researchers has even invented a camera that takes pictures of human souls.

[graciegirl]

Sure has a bunch of experts in many fields from all over the world looking at it. If it's a hoax it has a very high price.

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Can you link us? From something other than Gaia?

Here is Gaia. Not exactly a Scientific site;

Gaia - Conscious Media, Yoga & More | Gaia (https://www.gaia.com/)

[ColdNoMore]

I'll wait for the peer-reviewed, published paper from legitimate recognized scientists...before I even bother thinking about it. :shrug:


As has been demonstrated of late, there is a cadre of folks who are willing to believe...just about anything they read or see. :oops:


Welcome to the 'Age of Believability' ...simply by existing. :ohdear:

[Lottoguy]

I should also add it is Megabunk and Snopes who are saying it's an alien. This not mentioned in the discovery. They are saying it is just some species that is not of human origin. Those two web sites took it a step further.

[ColdNoMore]

Elongated Skulls Found in Peru Could Be Aliens? (http://www.snopes.com/elongated-skulls-found-peru-aliens/)


FALSE

We found no credible academic sources or publications corroborating the claim that DNA taken from the skulls found at Paracas was not human in origin or abnormal enough to warrant further study. The practice of purposely elongating skulls is well known to anthropologists, and while academics may debate the motivation certain societies had for doing it, there is no scientific debate over whether those societies were human.



On Edit: I see while I was searching, an admission of it being a hoax (by the OP no less)...was already mentioned. :thumbup:

[Lottoguy]

I can tell you Coast to Coast will be featuring this on their stations across the country this weekend. So, it sounds like their really interested in this story. But, like most stories like this, mainstream media won't go near it. There is an expected announcement schedule for July 11 before the press in Lima, Peru. We will know more then.

[Lottoguy]

This is a story from a couple of years ago. It is not related to this latest finding. Elongated skulls is a interesting topic. BTW how does one explain an elongated skull on a newborn baby? They won't go near that......

[ColdNoMore]

I can tell you Coast to Coast will be featuring this on their stations across the country this weekend. So, it sounds like their really interested in this story. But, like most stories like this, mainstream media won't go near it. There is an expected announcement schedule for July 11 before the press in Lima, Peru. We will know more then.

Coast to Coast? :22yikes:


That settles it then. :1rotfl:


Conspiracy theories propel AM radio show into Top 10 - SFGate (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Conspiracy-theories-propel-AM-radio-show-into-Top-2484135.php)

The show that gives self-described vampires a place to vent on its Friday night Wild Card line is the same one that was taking calls about Sept. 11 conspiracy theories just two weeks after the terrorist attacks.

And "Coast to Coast AM," which airs in the Bay Area on KSFO 560 AM, is the same show that can now reach upward of 3 million listeners through 500 stations each week, according to Premiere Radio Networks, the company that syndicates the show.

[Lottoguy]

Yes, your right. Peer review would be needed. While were at it, why do all of the middle ages artwork show Adam and Eve with a bellybutton? Think about that............take your time.

[Lottoguy]

I don't see the relation of 9/11 conspiracy attacks and vampires with this story? What am I missing?

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I don't see the relation of 9/11 conspiracy attacks and vampires with this story? What am I missing?


A connection with reality.

[ColdNoMore]

A connection with reality.

OK, now THAT...was funny. :1rotfl: :1rotfl: :1rotfl:

[ColdNoMore]

Yes, your right. Peer review would be needed. While were at it, why do all of the middle ages artwork show Adam and Eve with a bellybutton? Think about that............take your time.

:1rotfl:

Do you by any chance have proof or a link to your assertion that..."all of the middle ages artwork show Adam and Eve with a bellybutton?"

And no, I'm not going to tune in to 'Coast To Coast'...as verification. :a20:

[Topspinmo]

I for one am not Nieve enough to believe everything especially when come to governments. nor am I nieve enough to think we are the only high intelligence planet in the universe. Evidently most don't watch the ancient aliens on the history channel.:jester:

[ColdNoMore]

I for one am not Nieve enough to believe everything especially when come to governments. nor am I nieve enough to think we are the only high intelligence planet in the universe. Evidently most don't watch the ancient aliens on the history channel.:jester:

While I agree that the likelihood that we are alone and unique in the universe is pretty low, recent events have led me to question... whether we should be included in the "high intelligence" category. :D

[graciegirl]

A connection with reality.

As I have said many times, you say things so much better than I do.

[Chi-Town]

Coast to Coast? :22yikes:


That settles it then. :1rotfl:


Conspiracy theories propel AM radio show into Top 10 - SFGate (http://www.sfgate.com/news/article/Conspiracy-theories-propel-AM-radio-show-into-Top-2484135.php)
Listen to the first 3 or 4 minutes of this Coast to Coast program from Sunday, and you'll see why it is wildly popular.

Coast To Coast AM - June 18, 2017 - J. Allen Hynek & UFOs/ Disclosure & Secrecy - YouTube (https://youtu.be/bROOZXI5ysQ)

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[aninjamom]

Lottoguy, you should have seen my nephew after my sister-in-law had a long labor, he looked like an alien for at least a year! His head was elongated from the pressure of being in the birth canal so long. It gradually regained shape as he grew.

[Chi-Town]

Listen to the first 3 or 4 minutes of this Coast to Coast program from Sunday, and you'll see why it is wildly popular.

Coast To Coast AM - June 18, 2017 - J. Allen Hynek & UFOs/ Disclosure & Secrecy - YouTube (https://youtu.be/bROOZXI5ysQ)

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Well, the moment was lost in time. Anyhow. Coast to Coast is entertaining.


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[golfing eagles]

I think I missed the point of this thread. I guess I let my subscription to "The National Inquirer" lapse:1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:

[Lottoguy]

Trust me I know what is real and what is not. Less then 1% of the people know what USAP stands for. Learn what it is then your mind will understand was is real and what is not.

[Lottoguy]

The artwork is there. Start with the ceiling of the Sistine Chapel and go from there. Do I really need to take you by the hand?

[blueash]

Yes, your right. Peer review would be needed. While were at it, why do all of the middle ages artwork show Adam and Eve with a bellybutton? Think about that............take your time.

Did you start this thread
ShutUpImTalking (https://www.facebook.com/shutupimtalking.net/posts/10150327430767057) also or is the nearly exactly same phrase a coincidence?

"You know what's funny? Paintings of Adam & Eve where they both have belly buttons. Think about it, take as much time as you need."

There actually is a lot of "serious" material on this question. On one side are theologians who say as neither Adam nor Eve were ever attached to a placenta they would not have had a navel. This biology thinking seems to be out of place in a theological discussion.

Some have taken the side that Adam had a navel because later Jesus would have a navel and that this is the image being copied. And Adam had nipples too, which certainly were not needed for his biological success. So the "fact" that Adam had nipples is not disputed supports his also having a navel as both would be features not of biology but of copying the image of God. Theology tops biology if you have faith.

so now that you have "thought about it" do you still feel the certainty that Adam did not have a navel?

[Taltarzac725]

Did you start this thread
ShutUpImTalking (https://www.facebook.com/shutupimtalking.net/posts/10150327430767057) also or is the nearly exactly same phrase a coincidence?

"You know what's funny? Paintings of Adam & Eve where they both have belly buttons. Think about it, take as much time as you need."

There actually is a lot of "serious" material on this question. On one side are theologians who say as neither Adam nor Eve were ever attached to a placenta they would not have had a navel. This biology thinking seems to be out of place in a theological discussion.

Some have taken the side that Adam had a navel because later Jesus would have a navel and that this is the image being copied. And Adam had nipples too, which certainly were not needed for his biological success. So the "fact" that Adam had nipples is not disputed supports his also having a navel as both would be features not of biology but of copying the image of God. Theology tops biology if you have faith.

so now that you have "thought about it" do you still feel the certainty that Adam did not have a navel?

Adam's Navel: A Natural and Cultural History of the Human Form by Michael Sims — Reviews, Discussion, Bookclubs, Lists (https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/677911.Adam_s_Navel)

There is an interesting book on the navel and this history of thoughts about it among other stuff.

[Chi-Town]

This reminds me of the shortest poem ever written titled Fleas

Adam
Had 'em

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[Taltarzac725]

This reminds me of the shortest poem ever written titled Fleas

Adam
Had 'em

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But where did they come from? Did he make fleas from dirt?

[redwitch]

Adam/Eve navels in art. Really simple explanation -- they were paintings, not photographs and subject to artistic interpretation. I doubt the people of Michelangelo's or Reuben's time would have accepted Adam and Eve without navels. And let's not forget that witches had red hair, the evil eye could ward a witch off, the plague was caused by evil spirits, not fleas. All verifiable medieval facts.

As to the Peru discovery, who knows? The sources cited certainly aren't mainstream or scientific sites. When living in SF, I'd listen to KSFO for comic relief when it changed to talk format. So glad to hear it hasn't changed. I'd be seriously surprised if there weren't other life forms in this universe, some with more advanced technology, some with less. Could they have visited and died here? Entirely possible. However, unless a living alien deigns to visit and reveal itself to the world, I doubt we will ever know for sure until we travel to the stars. Until then, it is all conjecture.

[Lottoguy]

Your dismissing something before it even gets tested. Yes, it may be a hoax. But then again it might be something truly amazing. It's interesting how people go straight to SNOPES for their opinion. And I stress the word OPINION. How would they know it is fake after just 48 hours of announcing the discovery? That should tell you something. Imagine if King Tut's tomb was opened today and we are shown all of the amazing items in gold. Not doubt SNOPES would sake it's fake and photoshopped. Let's at least wait for answers on this.

[Lottoguy]

Ancient Aliens is a very interesting show. Have you ever looked into the majestic documents web site? Interesting stuff there.

[davefin]

Can't wait for the Reality TV show!

[graciegirl]

Ancient Aliens is a very interesting show. Have you ever looked into the majestic documents web site? Interesting stuff there.

My questions are answered, the OP is serious about this subject.

I have been taught theology by a Jesuit and studied Anatomy taught by an atheist. As for archeological discoveries of note, I like to hear about them from globally recognized institutions.

This thread wins some kind of prize.

[aninjamom]

I'll bet the "alien" was left there after the filming of "Indiana Jones and the Crystal Skull". Wasn't that filmed there? :)

[Lottoguy]

Photos to prove that please? Shouldn't be hard since it is family.

[Lottoguy]

I doubt the Indian Jones movie was using mummy's with Carbon 14 dating to the year 250 AD.

[Lottoguy]

I probably have more knowledge in this subject then 99% of the world's population. It's all about opening your mind and seeing things from a totally different perspective. When we are all born we are all ready on the road to a closed mind. As one expert in this field said, "the more I learn the crazier I sound."
Here is one example. Do people know a "phone" was actually invented almost 1,200 years ago? And in China no less. True story. Now there will be a person who will say. "that is impossible and crazy." But, it's true. The greatest ignorance is when people bash something in a topic they know nothing about.

[graciegirl]

Were you in archeology or history or another science?

[Lottoguy]

I'm into all three. One of the most interesting topics is called forbidden archaeology. There are many things that science cannot explain. And when this happens they are ignored. This is what happened to Einstein and Tesla. But, they eventually prevailed.

The 10 most amazing unexplained artifacts (http://www.zmescience.com/other/most-amazing-unexplained-artifacts/)

[graciegirl]

Lottoguy is an interesting name. Do you enjoy gambling or does it have a different meaning?

We have found that avoiding gambling has enabled us to pay for our grandchildren's college educations. They had to keep their grades up and choose a viable career, but we think it is a good investment. We hope that they will make a lot of money so we can move in with them.

[Taltarzac725]

I probably have more knowledge in this subject then 99% of the world's population. It's all about opening your mind and seeing things from a totally different perspective. When we are all born we are all ready on the road to a closed mind. As one expert in this field said, "the more I learn the crazier I sound."
Here is one example. Do people know a "phone" was actually invented almost 1,200 years ago? And in China no less. True story. Now there will be a person who will say. "that is impossible and crazy." But, it's true. The greatest ignorance is when people bash something in a topic they know nothing about.

1,200-year-old telephone, amazing invention of the ancient Chimu civilization | Ancient Origins (http://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-ancient-technology/1200-year-old-telephone-amazing-invention-ancient-chimu-civilization-020490)

Is this that phone? It is from ancient Peru.

[Lottoguy]

Yes, it is TRUE. The object is in the Smithsonian in Washington DC. Does anybody know this on these boards? I can probably count on my hands how many know this. But, when people are confronted with something so unusual to their way of thinking it is automatically discounted. I like to call it the "Chuckle Factor". There is so much in our world that is totally amazing that people just cannot accept.

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/innovation/theres-a-1200-year-old-phone-in-the-smithsonian-collections-180947641/

[manaboutown]

Folded up mummies having "egghead" extended crania are found in arid regions of South America. The ancient people buried their dead this way. Too, they used boards on their infants to shape their skulls like this. For UFO and alien stories Roswell is a lot closer to Florida. Boo! Roswell UFO incident - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roswell_UFO_incident)

[DonH57]

Meanwhile a Bigfoot family picnics at one of the rest stops on the West Virginia turnpike totally unnoticed!

[Lottoguy]

How then do you explain newborns with elongated skulls? And please don't use Wikipedia for your source of information. Even colleges tell their students that site is unreliable.

Mummified Head of Newborn Baby with Extremely Elongated Skull Found in Peru | Ancient Origins (http://www.ancient-origins.net/news-mysterious-phenomena/mummified-head-newborn-baby-extremely-elongated-skull-found-peru-007359)

[Lottoguy]

Yes, that picnic is right next to the "Whistling In The Dark Syndrome" convention.

[ColdNoMore]

Yes, that picnic is right next to the "Whistling In The Dark Syndrome" convention.

Serious question(s) here.

Do you think 9/11 was an inside job...carried out by the American government?

And not just that they knew the plot ahead of time (but I am curious if you believe that also), but that the fall of the Twin Towers...was actually a controlled demolition?

Anxiously awaiting your answer. :popcorn:

[Buffalo Jim]

1,200-year-old telephone, amazing invention of the ancient Chimu civilization | Ancient Origins (http://www.ancient-origins.net/artifacts-ancient-technology/1200-year-old-telephone-amazing-invention-ancient-chimu-civilization-020490)

Is this that phone? It is from ancient Peru.


Paddington Bear --- you know the talking bear who can read , write , craves orange marmalade and acts very much like a young boy is also from Peru --- from " Darkest Peru " to be exact .

So it would appear that anything is possible .

[Barefoot]

There is so much in our world that is totally amazing that people just cannot accept.
I do agree that we humans have a problem accepting amazing events.
If we cannot understand an event, we normally reject it as true.
IMHO, that's the way humans are wired.

[graciegirl]

I do agree that we humans have a problem accepting amazing events.
If we cannot understand an event, we normally reject it as true.
IMHO, that's the way humans are wired.


Bare.

[Barefoot]

I do agree that we humans have a problem accepting amazing events.
If we cannot understand an event, we normally reject it as true.
IMHO, that's the way humans are wired.


Bare.

GG, I don't mean I agree with everything Lottoguy hypothesizes.
But people once argued that the world was flat. And that if you reached the edge, you'd fall off!

[Taltarzac725]

Paddington Bear --- you know the talking bear who can read , write , craves orange marmalade and acts very much like a young boy is also from Peru --- from " Darkest Peru " to be exact .

So it would appear that anything is possible .

Well I have a Peruvian friend....

[Lottoguy]

Actually in that part of the world they buried the dead in the fetal position. This is why so many are found in that position. I guess you came into this world that way and you will leave this world that way.

[Taltarzac725]

Actually in that part of the world they buried the dead in the fetal position. This is why so many are found in that position. I guess you came into this world that way and you will leave this world that way.

I hope you will keep posting interesting stuff. I had a late friend on here who loved to talk about the paranormal stuff. She lived down the street from me. Donna was here name and many liked her quite a bit on TOTV.

I like seeing different topics.

[Lottoguy]

No, not into the 9/11 conspiracy theory. Kind of hard to install thousands of feet of primer cord below the feet of office workers over a long period of time. Then connect them to explosives on every floor. Although, one thing is strange. There were 6 or 7 CCTV cameras on top of the Pentagon roof aimed right out to where the jet would have come from. Yet, none of that footage has ever been released. This is how these conspiracies start.

[Lottoguy]

I always get a kick out of those who believe in the flat Earth theory. I always ask them what is on the other side?

[Lottoguy]

The paranormal topics are always interesting to talk about. I'm surprised nobody hasn't started a club already.

[Lottoguy]

I've done much research on many topics including the death of Marilyn Monroe and James Forrestal. Both were murdered neither of them committed suicide. When you read documents that were released via the Freedom Of Information Act you will come to that conclusion. Mainstream media won't cover stories like that. Even thou the evidence is right out there.

[Taltarzac725]

The paranormal topics are always interesting to talk about. I'm surprised nobody hasn't started a club already.

Parapsychology Club of The Villages, FL - Parapsychology Club, The Villages, Florida (http://parapsychclub.weebly.com/)

Not sure if this is exactly the same.

https://www.thevillages.com/recreation/socialClubs.htm

[Lottoguy]

Not for me. Went to one meeting to check it out and it was not what I was expecting.

[Lottoguy]

Looked around in the GAIA web site for more info on this. There is some good reading there. Interesting to note in Nazca they have cave drawings that go way back in time. Some of them show figures with three fingers. Strange stuff indeed.

Join Gaia as we investigate an anomalous finding being unearthed in Nazca, Peru | Gaia (https://www.gaia.com/article/unearthing-discoveries)

Here is a short video on a 500 year old mummy that was in almost perfect condition:

The Fascinating Afterlife of Peru's Mummies
|
Travel | Smithsonian (http://www.smithsonianmag.com/travel/fascinating-afterlife-perus-mummies-180956319/)

[Taltarzac725]

Not for me. Went to one meeting to check it out and it was not what I was expecting.

Got that from the Philosophy Club too. Had thought about going to one of these but would have touched on almost nothing that I studied in college that was Philosophy.

Donna was interested in ghosts not new wave stuff.

[aninjamom]

Actually, most of my family photos are in a large plastic tote, which I don't have time to sift through now. And the Indiana Jones reference was a joke. There is another possible explanation that you may not be aware of, the practice of head binding: Head Space: Behind 10,000 Years of Artificial Cranial Modification - Atlas Obscura (http://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/head-space-artificial-cranial-deformation)

[JP]

Must have bound their fingers too!

[Lottoguy]

Google "Star Child Skull" or "Lloyd Pye" and read about this discovery. It's not elongated but something that is hard for science to explain.

[Lottoguy]

The Jimmy Church radio show will be talking about the Nazca mummy in one hour. Check his web site for more info.

[manaboutown]

Beam me up, Scottie!

[Lottoguy]

Time will tell on this mummy. There is a good possibility it's some kind of fake hoax. I really don't trust Jaime Musssain the famous Mexican television reporter. He has a bad history with such things.

Four years ago this thing was uncovered in the same area:
The Atacama Humanoid - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0XjietgsBDY)

[KayakerNC]

[QUOTE=Lottoguy;1417345]Time will tell on this mummy. There is a good possibility it's some kind of fake hoax.QUOTE]

"Fake Hoax"??
Now I'm confused.:shrug:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

[QUOTE=Lottoguy;1417345]Time will tell on this mummy. There is a good possibility it's some kind of fake hoax.QUOTE]

"Fake Hoax"??
Now I'm confused.:shrug:

You know...it's like pseudo phoney.

[Lottoguy]

The carbon 14 dating sounds legit. They do sound like their going about the right thing in sending out DNA samples to five different labs for testing. And each one does not know where the sample has come from. What bothers me is the people connected to this "discovery". One of the Russian scientists I checked is not listed in the Russian academy he said he is connected with. That is a red flag to me. Unless there is some kind of miss communication? Any way this story is going to take a few months to play out.

Another link to share: DNA Testing Of Paracas Peru Elongated Skulls: May 2017 Update - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6Y-aK01btFA)

[Lottoguy]

More info on another strange skull.

Two Strange Organic Artifacts Found In The Desert Of Nazca In Peru - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BwdERta5w)