What to do if you are attacked by a dog

[manaboutown]

This came to my attention. I keep hearing about dog attacks, pit bulls, especially. This former Navy Seal knows his stuff! Navy SEAL explains what to do if you're attacked by a dog - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-seal-explains-tips-attacked-by-dog-2017-6)

[Taltarzac725]

This came to my attention. I keep hearing about dog attacks, pit bulls, especially. This former Navy Seal knows his stuff! Navy SEAL explains what to do if you're attacked by a dog - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-seal-explains-tips-attacked-by-dog-2017-6)

Thanks for posting that. There was a very nervous dog at Doggie Doo Run Run that I had been quite worried about as it would often start barking at me at waist level whenever I tried to approach a pair of women one of whom was/is a friend of mine. A pit bull mix. He eventually calmed down and was good with me but started to get too aggressive in its play mode with dogs not part of its pack so to speak. My friend also has a pit bull mix. Sweet dog for the most part but also got more aggressive in play and my friend might have been having some personal problems which often upset the dog too. Both dogs were banned from the dog park unfortunately.

I had worried about what to do with aggressive dogs which now and them still appear at Doggie Doo Run Run. They are great owners-- Scott and Laura-- there but once in a while a new dog might not show its true colors until something sets it off.

On a funny note my dog a chihuahua/terrier mix-- Beau-- chased a boxer named Bruster and Bruster ran to me for protection and knocked me right on my can taking the breath right out of me. Had bruises for weeks but had the fortune to fall into dirt. Bruster is gone but these kind of falls from a dog running into a person are usually the cause of injuries to people at dog parks in the Villages or near them. And a heavy dog running into a 65-85 year old body often creates injuries.

[graciegirl]

This came to my attention. I keep hearing about dog attacks, pit bulls, especially. This former Navy Seal knows his stuff! Navy SEAL explains what to do if you're attacked by a dog - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-seal-explains-tips-attacked-by-dog-2017-6)

This IS an excellent post. One we should all read and take note of.

People who know me well, know I am a dog lover, although I do not own a dog. Dogs do attack people occasionally for many different reasons and I have never read an article that tells you how to protect yourself. This is very helpful to know.

[Allegiance]

This came to my attention. I keep hearing about dog attacks, pit bulls, especially. This former Navy Seal knows his stuff! Navy SEAL explains what to do if you're attacked by a dog - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-seal-explains-tips-attacked-by-dog-2017-6)
Since you can't run faster than a dog, is a lethal defense justified?

I did not read the link.

[fishon]

The advise is good.
Feed the ******* something if you can.
By that I mean present a target, a newspaper, book, what ever you are carrying.
While my years working for a land surveyor, I have been confronted many times.
I've been attacked four times, only bitten once.

I'm certain three out of four made it home.

The incidents were not for the squeamish.

[Carl in Tampa]

This came to my attention. I keep hearing about dog attacks, pit bulls, especially. This former Navy Seal knows his stuff! Navy SEAL explains what to do if you're attacked by a dog - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-seal-explains-tips-attacked-by-dog-2017-6)

As the Navy SEAL said, "Fight with a vengeance."

Which brings me back to advice that I have given in the past about protection from a dog attack. When you are out walking, and particularly when you are out walking your pet, carry a golf club.

In this golfing community, it looks completely appropriate, and quite casual, to be carrying a golf club, and a golf club can be a very effective weapon in fending off an attack by a dog. As the SEAL advised in the video, strike for the muzzle, and the rib cage behind the front legs.

And.....................strike with a vengeance.

Other than a K9 police dog, no dog should be permitted to believe that it is permissible to attack a human.

[Taltarzac725]

As the Navy SEAL said, "Fight with a vengeance."

Which brings me back to advice that I have given in the past about protection from a dog attack. When you are out walking, and particularly when you are out walking your pet, carry a golf club.

In this golfing community, it looks completely appropriate, and quite casual, to be carrying a golf club, and a golf club can be a very effective weapon in fending off an attack by a dog. As the SEAL advised in the video, strike for the muzzle, and the rib cage behind the front legs.

And.....................strike with a vengeance.

Other than a K9 police dog, no dog should be permitted to believe that it is permissible to attack a human.

I usually carry a five club myself in the late afternoon and night outings. Mostly this is to fend off coyotes or bobcats but once in a while there are loose dogs in the area. Most of these are quite harmless but better to be prepared.

[kcrazorbackfan]

This came to my attention. I keep hearing about dog attacks, pit bulls, especially. This former Navy Seal knows his stuff! Navy SEAL explains what to do if you're attacked by a dog - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/navy-seal-explains-tips-attacked-by-dog-2017-6)

Good to know; thanks for the link. I'll also be trying to stick the end of the barrel of my .380 against it.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Good to know; thanks for the link. I'll also be trying to stick the end of the barrel of my .380 against it.

You would have better results if you stick the muzzle against it.

[cchase]

380's work great, but, who really carries here in the Villages. Maybe outside the Villages. But, most don't here.

[village dreamer]

lots of people carry a gun,and yes in the villages , remember that guy 30 shots in the front door......

[Allegiance]

380's work great, but, who really carries here in the Villages. Maybe outside the Villages. But, most don't here.
Smith and wesson currently has a 50$ rebate on its tiny 380 bodyguard, $75 on 9mm, etc.

Rebate ends June 30th, know a lot of villagers that are packing and many are taking advantage of this rebate.

There is a class, range test and a long vetting process to get concealed carry. Worth it.

Lots with criminal records and mental issues will get rejected.

[Carl in Tampa]

380's work great, but, who really carries here in the Villages. Maybe outside the Villages. But, most don't here.

If you are acquainted with a retired law enforcement officer (LEO,) it is likely that he carries at all times, although he may deny it. To admit that he is carrying gives up a tactical advantage, which most experienced officers try to avoid doing.

Interestingly, a "qualified, retired law enforcement officer" does not need a state issued license to carry a concealed weapon if he meets the standards of the federal law called the Law Enforcement Officer's Safety Act (LEOSA.)

NRA Law Enforcement Division|Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (http://le.nra.org/leosa.aspx)

I am aware of hundreds of retired law enforcement officers living in The Villages who maintain their "qualified" status annually. I don't think they go to that trouble to just carry outside The Villages.

I also know many retirees who qualify under the LEOSA and also obtain a state issued Concealed Weapons License.

If I am not mistaken, kcrazorbackfan is a retired LEO.

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To keep this post on the subject of the thread, let me mention that Florida has a law which prohibits "the malicious killing of the animal of another."

It would be unwise to shoot an attacking dog that is arguably more of an annoyance than an actual hazard of serious bodily harm. You wouldn't want to be prosecuted for shooting someone's Pomeranian.

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[Taltarzac725]

If you are acquainted with a retired law enforcement officer (LEO,) it is likely that he carries at all times, although he may deny it. To admit that he is carrying gives up a tactical advantage, which most experienced officers try to avoid doing.

Interestingly, a "qualified, retired law enforcement officer" does not need a state issued license to carry a concealed weapon if he meets the standards of the federal law called the Law Enforcement Officer's Safety Act (LEOSA.)

NRA Law Enforcement Division|Law Enforcement Officers Safety Act (http://le.nra.org/leosa.aspx)

I am aware of hundreds of retired law enforcement officers living in The Villages who maintain their "qualified" status annually. I don't think they go to that trouble to just carry outside The Villages.

I also know many retirees who qualify under the LEOSA and also obtain a state issued Concealed Weapons License.

If I am not mistaken, kcrazorbackfan is a retired LEO.

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To keep this post on the subject of the thread, let me mention that Florida has a law which prohibits "the malicious killing of the animal of another."

It would be unwise to shoot an attacking dog that is arguably more of an annoyance than an actual hazard of serious bodily harm. You wouldn't want to be prosecuted for shooting someone's Pomeranian.

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Some of the retired LEOs I am around at times carry or seem to.

[Taltarzac725]

Water Rover – Don't let your best friend go thirsty (https://www.waterrover.com/)

One of these is good for giving water to your dog and when full is quite a good club too if you need something hard to hit an attacking dog's head with.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Thanks for posting that. There was a very nervous dog at Doggie Doo Run Run that I had been quite worried about as it would often start barking at me at waist level whenever I tried to approach a pair of women one of whom was/is a friend of mine. A pit bull mix. He eventually calmed down and was good with me but started to get too aggressive in its play mode with dogs not part of its pack so to speak. My friend also has a pit bull mix. Sweet dog for the most part but also got more aggressive in play and my friend might have been having some personal problems which often upset the dog too. Both dogs were banned from the dog park unfortunately.

I had worried about what to do with aggressive dogs which now and them still appear at Doggie Doo Run Run. They are great owners-- Scott and Laura-- there but once in a while a new dog might not show its true colors until something sets it off.

On a funny note my dog a chihuahua/terrier mix-- Beau-- chased a boxer named Bruster and Bruster ran to me for protection and knocked me right on my can taking the breath right out of me. Had bruises for weeks but had the fortune to fall into dirt. Bruster is gone but these kind of falls from a dog running into a person are usually the cause of injuries to people at dog parks in the Villages or near them. And a heavy dog running into a 65-85 year old body often creates injuries.

I once had a 4 lb peek-a-poo that chased a horse.

But as far as getting knocked down, a dog attack ended my career. In 20809, I was walking my dog when a boxer came running out from behind me and to the left. It was in a low crouched position and growling as it charged at my dog. It scared me and I screamed like a little girl and jumped. My dog turned and barked and the boxer ran away. But the damage was done. It all happened so fast that I can't be sure exactly how it happened, but I assume that when I jumped I slammed my left foot down on a rock because I had shattered my calcaneus (heel bone).

Now a broken bone doesn't sound like much, but this particular bone connects to three of your toes and one of your shin bones to form your ankle. The makeup of the bone is that when it breaks it shatters into several pieces. It needed surgery and it took seven screws to hold it together.

I was in the golf business and played in tournaments. I asked about playing golf and the surgeon told me that the goal usually was to get me to be able to walk normally and that I'd always have trouble walking on uneven surfaces. Playing golf again was "highly unlikely".

I recall when I got this news, I almost passed out. She brought me water and had me lie down.

After the surgery, I went through physical therapy and worked my tail off with the objective being to be able to play and teach again. After I was cleared, I tried hitting balls and almost fell down. I was also in a tremendous amount of pain. I had a job that required me to be on the lesson tee for four hours at a time and I found that I was in excruciating pain if I was on my feet for more than an hour or so. I rearranged my schedule so that I took breaks and cut down the amount of time I taught. Even after this, the day after working, I was in terrible pain and had to sit with my foot elevated and an ice pack on it for hours. I was also given powerful pain relievers which I was reluctant to take, but would occasionally.

After a while, my wife, at that time convinced me that I couldn't work anymore and that playing golf was out of the question. She talked me into applying for SSDI and I was approved.

At this time I was treated for depression.

This story is getting too long but the short version is that my best friend, my wife, my brother-in-law and my dog all died within a short time after this happening.

I lived overseas for a while and decided to come back to the U.S. and moved to The Villages.

After I was here for about four years, I thought that I might be able to play nine holes on the executive courses and I've been doing OK. I even play 18 once in a while, but I'm usually in a lot of pain by about the 14th hole.

Anyway, all this because of a dog that tried to attack. So be careful. In my case, it happened so fast that I didn't have time to think or react properly.

[Taltarzac725]

I once had a 4 lb peek-a-poo that chased a horse.

But as far as getting knocked down, a dog attack ended my career. In 20809, I was walking my dog when a boxer came running out from behind me and to the left. It was in a low crouched position and growling as it charged at my dog. It scared me and I screamed like a little girl and jumped. My dog turned and barked and the boxer ran away. But the damage was done. It all happened so fast that I can't be sure exactly how it happened, but I assume that when I jumped I slammed my left foot down on a rock because I had shattered my calcaneus (heel bone).

Now a broken bone doesn't sound like much, but this particular bone connects to three of your toes and one of your shin bones to form your ankle. The makeup of the bone is that when it breaks it shatters into several pieces. It needed surgery and it took seven screws to hold it together.

I was in the golf business and played in tournaments. I asked about playing golf and the surgeon told me that the goal usually was to get me to be able to walk normally and that I'd always have trouble walking on uneven surfaces. Playing golf again was "highly unlikely".

I recall when I got this news, I almost passed out. She brought me water and had me lie down.

After the surgery, I went through physical therapy and worked my tail off with the objective being to be able to play and teach again. After I was cleared, I tried hitting balls and almost fell down. I was also in a tremendous amount of pain. I had a job that required me to be on the lesson tee for four hours at a time and I found that I was in excruciating pain if I was on my feet for more than an hour or so. I rearranged my schedule so that I took breaks and cut down the amount of time I taught. Even after this, the day after working, I was in terrible pain and had to sit with my foot elevated and an ice pack on it for hours. I was also given powerful pain relievers which I was reluctant to take, but would occasionally.

After a while, my wife, at that time convinced me that I couldn't work anymore and that playing golf was out of the question. She talked me into applying for SSDI and I was approved.

At this time I was treated for depression.

This story is getting too long but the short version is that my best friend, my wife, my brother-in-law and my dog all died within a short time after this happening.

I lived overseas for a while and decided to come back to the U.S. and moved to The Villages.

After I was here for about four years, I thought that I might be able to play nine holes on the executive courses and I've been doing OK. I even play 18 once in a while, but I'm usually in a lot of pain by about the 14th hole.

Anyway, all this because of a dog that tried to attack. So be careful. In my case, it happened so fast that I didn't have time to think or react properly.

Some of the falls at Doggie Doo Run Run have been from dogs coming from behind the person. Two of these happened within twenty minutes of one another in about the same spot too. They called the ambulance for one of these and an employee helped out with transportation for the other.

[Carl in Tampa]

I once had a 4 lb peek-a-poo that chased a horse.

But as far as getting knocked down, a dog attack ended my career. In 20809, I was walking my dog when a boxer came running out from behind me and to the left. It was in a low crouched position and growling as it charged at my dog. It scared me and I screamed like a little girl and jumped. My dog turned and barked and the boxer ran away. But the damage was done. It all happened so fast that I can't be sure exactly how it happened, but I assume that when I jumped I slammed my left foot down on a rock because I had shattered my calcaneus (heel bone).

Now a broken bone doesn't sound like much, but this particular bone connects to three of your toes and one of your shin bones to form your ankle. The makeup of the bone is that when it breaks it shatters into several pieces. It needed surgery and it took seven screws to hold it together.

I was in the golf business and played in tournaments. I asked about playing golf and the surgeon told me that the goal usually was to get me to be able to walk normally and that I'd always have trouble walking on uneven surfaces. Playing golf again was "highly unlikely".

I recall when I got this news, I almost passed out. She brought me water and had me lie down.

After the surgery, I went through physical therapy and worked my tail off with the objective being to be able to play and teach again. After I was cleared, I tried hitting balls and almost fell down. I was also in a tremendous amount of pain. I had a job that required me to be on the lesson tee for four hours at a time and I found that I was in excruciating pain if I was on my feet for more than an hour or so. I rearranged my schedule so that I took breaks and cut down the amount of time I taught. Even after this, the day after working, I was in terrible pain and had to sit with my foot elevated and an ice pack on it for hours. I was also given powerful pain relievers which I was reluctant to take, but would occasionally.

After a while, my wife, at that time convinced me that I couldn't work anymore and that playing golf was out of the question. She talked me into applying for SSDI and I was approved.

At this time I was treated for depression.

This story is getting too long but the short version is that my best friend, my wife, my brother-in-law and my dog all died within a short time after this happening.

I lived overseas for a while and decided to come back to the U.S. and moved to The Villages.

After I was here for about four years, I thought that I might be able to play nine holes on the executive courses and I've been doing OK. I even play 18 once in a while, but I'm usually in a lot of pain by about the 14th hole.

Anyway, all this because of a dog that tried to attack. So be careful. In my case, it happened so fast that I didn't have time to think or react properly.

Wow. That is a gripping account.

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Carl

[kcrazorbackfan]

You would have better results if you stick the muzzle against it.

The bullet comes out the end of the barrel, doesn't it? Thought so. Thank you, though, for your concern and input.

[manaboutown]

Wow. That is a gripping account.

Thank you for sharing it with us.

Carl

Yes, thank you!

[K9-Lovers]

I've been attacked by dogs twice. Both times because I was with my own dogs. A hint from experience: grab the attacking dog by the hind legs, and twirl around in a circle. The attacking dog will not be able to bite you or another dog due to the centrifugal force.

I recommend a club when walking with your dogs.

[Taltarzac725]

When dogs attack | Cesar's Way (https://www.cesarsway.com/dog-behavior/biting/when-dogs-attack)

We talk a lot about Cesar Millan at Doggie Doo Run Run so I wanted to see what he recommended. Cesar's Way | Official Site Of Dog Behaviorist Cesar Millan (https://www.cesarsway.com/)

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Smith and wesson currently has a 50$ rebate on its tiny 380 bodyguard, $75 on 9mm, etc.

Rebate ends June 30th, know a lot of villagers that are packing and many are taking advantage of this rebate.

There is a class, range test and a long vetting process to get concealed carry. Worth it.

Lots with criminal records and mental issues will get rejected.

Before you go out and buy a Bodyguard or any .380, be aware that .380 ammunition costs about 50% more than 9mm. The S&W 9mm Shield is not much bigger than the Bodyguard, costs a fraction more and is easily concealed. The cost of ammo for a few range sessions will more than make up for the difference in price.

Also, the 9mm packs a bit more punch. If you ever actually have to defend yourself, a .380 may not take down a large bad guy.

[Allegiance]

Before you go out and buy a Bodyguard or any .380, be aware that .380 ammunition costs about 50% more than 9mm. The S&W 9mm Shield is not much bigger than the Bodyguard, costs a fraction more and is easily concealed. The cost of ammo for a few range sessions will more than make up for the difference in price.

Also, the 9mm packs a bit more punch. If you ever actually have to defend yourself, a .380 may not take down a large bad guy.
Excellent advice.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I've been attacked by dogs twice. Both times because I was with my own dogs. A hint from experience: grab the attacking dog by the hind legs, and twirl around in a circle. The attacking dog will not be able to bite you or another dog due to the centrifugal force.

I recommend a club when walking with your dogs.

My knees would rather have me mauled by the dog.

[Taltarzac725]

My knees would rather have me mauled by the dog.

A lot of the dogs at Doggie Doo Run Run would be too big to pick up for most 65+ year olds.

[dbussone]

I've been attacked by dogs twice. Both times because I was with my own dogs. A hint from experience: grab the attacking dog by the hind legs, and twirl around in a circle. The attacking dog will not be able to bite you or another dog due to the centrifugal force.



I recommend a club when walking with your dogs.



But how do you know when to let it go?


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[CFrance]

But how do you know when to let it go?


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And hope it's not heavier than you are.

Although I did see someone do this in a dog park in Bradenton. But it was the dog's owner. But he didn't twirl the dog; he pulled it back and it let go of the other dog.

I stupidly caused a dog fight once (long story) that I then got in the middle of, trying to undo the stupid thing I did. I had a bruise on my hip for a couple of weeks.

Tip: don't ever hold one ball out to two ball-centric dogs.

[dbussone]

And hope it's not heavier than you are.

Although I did see someone do this in a dog park in Bradenton. But it was the dog's owner. But he didn't twirl the dog; he pulled it back and it let go of the other dog.

I stupidly caused a dog fight once (long story) that I then got in the middle of, trying to undo the stupid thing I did. I had a bruise on my hip for a couple of weeks.

Tip: don't ever hold one ball out to two ball-centric dogs.



I don't even want to know that to which your tip refers!


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[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

I've been attacked by dogs twice. Both times because I was with my own dogs. A hint from experience: grab the attacking dog by the hind legs, and twirl around in a circle. The attacking dog will not be able to bite you or another dog due to the centrifugal force.

I recommend a club when walking with your dogs.

In my case, it happened so fast that I didn't have time to react. My dog snapped at the attacking dog and he retreated. I didn't even know that I broke my heel until several minutes later.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Excellent advice.

I hope that I didn't come across as telling people what to do. I have friends that carry .380s and they're very happy with them. It was the cost of the ammunition that did it for me. I had initially intended to get a .380, but the cost of the ammo turned me around. I'm very happy with my 9mm S&W Shield.

[Allegiance]

I hope that I didn't come across as telling people what to do. I have friends that carry .380s and they're very happy with them. It was the cost of the ammunition that did it for me. I had initially intended to get a .380, but the cost of the ammo turned me around. I'm very happy with my 9mm S&W Shield.
Not at all. I have the shield, love it. I picked up a nice fde bodyguard, on sale, with $50 rebate, no tax, free delivery. Will also get the SW Compact 22, it's very similar in size to shield, dirt cheap ammo. All three have similar safety etc. Best to have more than one gun at the range for wife and/or friends.

[Sandtrap328]

Outside of those who go to the dog parks, how many of us really encounter a dog off the leash in The Villages?

If one would bite me, "Call Attorney Dan Newlin".

[Rapscallion St Croix]

Outside of those who go to the dog parks, how many of us really encounter a dog off the leash in The Villages?

If one would bite me, "Call Attorney Dan Newlin".

I see it multiple times every day on the multi-modal from Belle Meade Circle to Legacy Lane.

[manaboutown]

Don't know about Florida but in some jurisdictions a dog gets the first bite free. The "One-Bite" Rule for Dogs | Nolo.com (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-one-bite-rule-dogs.html)

[Taltarzac725]

Don't know about Florida but in some jurisdictions a dog gets the first bite free. The "One-Bite" Rule for Dogs | Nolo.com (http://www.nolo.com/legal-encyclopedia/the-one-bite-rule-dogs.html)

Is One Bite Allowed in Florida Dog Bite Law? (http://www.femaleinjurylawyer.com/Blog/2016/February/Is-Florida-a-One-Bite-State-.aspx)

I do not know her.

[manaboutown]

Is One Bite Allowed in Florida Dog Bite Law? (http://www.femaleinjurylawyer.com/Blog/2016/February/Is-Florida-a-One-Bite-State-.aspx)

I do not know her.

I just read what she wrote. It looks to me like Florida, being a state having populous regions, has strict dog bite laws which IMO is a good thing.

[Sandtrap328]

I see it multiple times every day on the multi-modal from Belle Meade Circle to Legacy Lane.

Are the unleashed dogs on the path with or without their owners? You are not speaking on of dogs riding in carts with owners, are you?

I am just a short ways south of that and never see an unleashed dog on the paths or on the street.

There is a house a block from me that have an "invisible " fence but their dog always stays inside the yard. That definitely counts as being under the control.

[Barefoot]

Outside of those who go to the dog parks, how many of us really encounter a dog off the leash in The Villages?
In ten years, I've never encountered a dog off the leash in The Villages.
But I'm only in TV for six months every winter.
Perhaps as soon as the Seasonal Residents leave, all hell breaks loose. :evil6:

[Taltarzac725]

In ten years, I've never encountered a dog off the leash in The Villages.
But I'm only in TV for six months every winter.
Perhaps as soon as the Seasonal Residents leave, all hell breaks loose. :evil6:

We have been here more than 12 years and the only dogs that have been off leash in our neighborhood are ones that someone dumped off here because they did want them, dogs escaping out of a dog not shut properly, and coyotes.

[Polar Bear]

I see it multiple times every day...
:ohdear:

[Barefoot]

I see it multiple times every day on the multi-modal from Belle Meade Circle to Legacy Lane.I know you're a jokester, I think there's a punchline coming. :confused:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I know you're a jokester, I think there's a punchline coming. :confused:

I am a jokester, but, the only thing imprecise in my post is "see it every day" which most should recognize as a figure of speech.

I do often see dogs off leash when I travel the Springdale Fitness Trail. Most of them are in the big field outside the boundaries of the dog park and hole. I also see them off leash behind the post office on Legacy Lane. One guy comes out most evenings and parks his cart smack in the middle of the 17th tee box of Erinn Glenn and throws a frisbee to his little dog. There is also a group that meets up in the woods and turn their dogs loose. I occasionally see off-leash dogs at the "duck pond" by the roundabout at Savannah Center.

I could take and post pictures, but I have been scolded for that and have vowed to be kinder and gentler and my camera is broken.

[Taltarzac725]

There are various areas near or in the Villages where people take their dogs and let them off leash. These are kind of make-shift dog parks. Sport used to like to go to one of these south of the Rio Grande Pool, croquet court and the air gun range. It is not all Villages property or they would have put some houses in there.

[kcrazorbackfan]

I've been attacked by dogs twice. Both times because I was with my own dogs. A hint from experience: grab the attacking dog by the hind legs, and twirl around in a circle. The attacking dog will not be able to bite you or another dog due to the centrifugal force.

I recommend a club when walking with your dogs.

A blind guy walks into a bar with his seeing eye dog and suddenly grabs the dog by the tail and starts twirling it around. The bar owner sees what's going on and asks the blind guy "what are you doing"? The blind guy replies "just looking around".

BTW, in addition to my .380, I carry an expandable steel baton when walking my pups. Very minimal effort can cause a lot of hurt.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I was nearly attacked by a pit bull. Lucky for me, my teacup chihuahua killed the big dog before he got to me.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I was nearly attacked by a pit bull. Lucky for me, my teacup chihuahua killed the big dog before he got to me.

I might have been able to save them both had I performed the Heimlich on the pit bull.

[Taltarzac725]

Some pit bull mixes roll over for ferocious chihuahua/terriers. Ginger for instance and Beau. And Jade for a while until Harlow came along.

[Carl in Tampa]

I was nearly attacked by a pit bull. Lucky for me, my teacup chihuahua killed the big dog before he got to me.

I might have been able to save them both had I performed the Heimlich on the pit bull.

Subtle.............and hilarious. :jester:

[phillynomore]

Why are people letting their dogs run off leash at the Osceola Hills mail boxes? People are trying to pick up their mail and you have a dog circling around as the dog owner reads his mail. If you do not know the dog or owner, do we have to come back or wait until they leave?

[Wiotte]

Why are people letting their dogs run off leash at the Osceola Hills mail boxes? People are trying to pick up their mail and you have a dog circling around as the dog owner reads his mail. If you do not know the dog or owner, do we have to come back or wait until they leave?



What are the leash laws in Sumter County?
County Code 4-10 states that all dogs must be confined on owners property at all times or under direct control or on a leash when off the owners property.

Otherwise a citation will be issued for the animal running free.


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380's work great, but, who really carries here in the Villages. Maybe outside the Villages. But, most don't here.

A good pepper spray is great. Have one in pocket, one in cart, one in pouch on bicycle. Had to use it once,, a guy let his German Shep try to bite my foot on pedal. The spray works. It really works. Shep started whining and run for home. Owner just stood there in an idiotic state.
Kinber makes a good spray, very good, There are many self defense sprays on the market, on the net.
We did a training session at a police facility and have a certificate of proficiency, it is very good to have.
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[Dklink]

"On a funny note my dog a chihuahua/terrier mix-- Beau-- chased a boxer named Bruster and Bruster ran to me for protection", why didn't she control her dog instead of blaming Bruster for knocking her down.

[lorilorilori]

Fill an empty soda or beer can with nuts and bolts or pieces of metal.
Seal the top. When u shake it, it makes a sound that will scare the
crap out of a dog. We used to use this when I worked in a kennel if
a dog became aggressive or cats were fighting. We stayed away from
chemicals.

[autumnspring]

A good pepper spray is great. Have one in pocket, one in cart, one in pouch on bicycle. Had to use it once,, a guy let his German Shep try to bite my foot on pedal. The spray works. It really works. Shep started whining and run for home. Owner just stood there in an idiotic state.
Kinber makes a good spray, very good, There are many self defense sprays on the market, on the net.
We did a training session at a police facility and have a certificate of proficiency, it is very good to have.
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The can is only thin aluminum. Sooner or later you will get a leak in it. I suggest you wrap the can, all but the spray head with tape.

Also, dogs are pack animals. Many years ago I was out walking and at least 4-5 dogs came at me. Like a human a dogs solar plexus is in the chest-above the front legs. Fortunately, I was wearing my work boots. I picked the lead dog and kicked it in the chest with all my might. iSORRY PEOPLE-I have no intention on being bit.

[John_W]

When they say the bark is worse than the bite, I can testify that the rabies shots are worse. When I was about 9 years old my neighbor was a builder and he had an old dump truck in his backyard and I was playing one day with his kids on the truck and a German Shepherd came out of nowhere and started to circle the dump truck. We were all afraid to come down but forever reason I got down and headed toward my yard. We had a chain link fence between our yards and as I was getting ready to leap over the fence the dog bit me on the back of my leg.

I was so exhausted and excited I didn't really feel anything. My dad just happen to come out and saw the blood and the dog on the otherside of the fence and realized what happened. They tried to find who owned the dog and if it had rabies shots, but nobody knew anything. I went to the doctor and all I remember was getting a terrible needle in the stomach and I had to go back for several weeks to get more. Whenever I see large loose dogs now I am always leery.

BTW, even though some don't think a 380 is big enough, I bought a Ruger LCP 380 about five years ago and it's the right size for me. Fits in the front pocket and it's not bulging or heavy. I paid almost $300 for mine, but I see Rural King in Leesburg has them on sale for $209 without the laser. Look in the Sunday newspaper each week they have flyer and a lot of good specials.

Search results for: 'ruger lcp 380' : RK Guns (https://www.rkguns.com/catalogsearch/result/?cat=0&q=ruger+lcp+380)

https://cdn-us-cf2.yottaa.net/58b82148312e584a97000001/www.rkguns.com/v~13.1c/media/catalog/product/cache/1/small_image/228x/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/1/7/17595023.jpg?yocs=1_&yoloc=us

[Henryk]

Water Rover – Don't let your best friend go thirsty (https://www.waterrover.com/)

One of these is good for giving water to your dog and when full is quite a good club too if you need something hard to hit an attacking dog's head with.

Tal, I don't think I'd use anything made of plastic. It's just not hard enough, except for a Pomeranian. And personally. I'd be embarrassed to admit I hit a Pomeranian.

[Henryk]

A blind guy walks into a bar with his seeing eye dog and suddenly grabs the dog by the tail and starts twirling it around. The bar owner sees what's going on and asks the blind guy "what are you doing"? The blind guy replies "just looking around".

BTW, in addition to my .380, I carry an expandable steel baton when walking my pups. Very minimal effort can cause a lot of hurt.

VERY funny!

Is the baton legal?

[Taltarzac725]

"On a funny note my dog a chihuahua/terrier mix-- Beau-- chased a boxer named Bruster and Bruster ran to me for protection", why didn't she control her dog instead of blaming Bruster for knocking her down.

This was at Doggie Doo Run Run in a 5 acre back field where Bruster's owner was swinging on a swing with his girlfriend while Beau chased Bruster around in front of them. Bruster ran me over trying to get away from Beau. Put me on my butt in the dirt near a picnic table and knocked the wind out of me. And I had some pretty good bruises for a month. A few years ago however. Probably around late 2014.

[Taltarzac725]

Tal, I don't think I'd use anything made of plastic. It's just not hard enough, except for a Pomeranian. And personally. I'd be embarrassed to admit I hit a Pomeranian.

If you hit the head hard you would be able to use a water bottle like that. I do carry a five iron in the Villages during the afternoon and evening walks.

Most of the pooches at the local dog park are quite well behaved but there has been one I have been worried about that is in the Agility Area which can be quite aggressive with hitting the fence while trying to get at my little dog Beau. He might be able to get over the fence at some time. They often limit the more aggressive dogs to the Agility Area but do not always keep a sharp eye on the dogs in that fenced in area.

[Barefoot]

Why are people letting their dogs run off leash at the Osceola Hills mail boxes? People are trying to pick up their mail and you have a dog circling around as the dog owner reads his mail.
It's very disrespectful to let your dogs run free, anywhere but a dog park.
Perhaps the owner felt he had voice control over the dog; but no dog is 100% reliable.
There are people who are terrified of dogs for good reason.
Speaking as a dog lover, I think it's very rude to let a dog run off leash. :ohdear:

[lorilorilori]

What "worries" me about a dog, dog attack, dog circling etc.
Is falling down and breaking my hip.
Even with my own dogs - I keep clear when they are playing
and careful not to trip over them.

[Chatbrat]

IMHO-what ever hand gun you carry, equip it with a crimson trace "GREEN" laser totally visible in day light also guarantees you will hit the intended target-most DA 380's with their long trigger pull would be worthless on a small profile target-like a low profile dog--they are designed to be "belly" guns

for animal protection SA/DA--wheel gun

[OhioBuckeye]

You know that's really great info, but on a serious note, how many of us would really have the nerve to punch a Pit Bull or any big dog. It's one thing to talk about it & another to do it. Also a lot of us couldn't punch hard enough to hurt a 5 yr. old kid, but I'm talking mostly about women. I'm a guy & I'm not afraid of most dogs but even I would be a little nervous about punching a Pit Bull in the nose & making it madder. But I guess you would have to do something instead of letting it chew on your arm.

[chuckandbernice]

First, I blame the owner more than the dog. Not wanting to hurt or kill the dog, I looked online for an alternative. What I found has been very effective, a stun gun. 14,400 million volts for about $11. This is not a taser so unless it contacts the dog there is no harm or pain. When a dog start to approach I set it off. The bright flash and harsh sound typically sends them away. If that doesn't stop them, contact with the stun gun will.