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Sandtrap328
06-29-2017, 06:59 PM
It does not matter what political persuasion you are, you have to agree that Trump's tweets about Mika Bryzenski were unworthy of someone who is President of the USA.
It just shows his disdain for women - just as he did with Hillary, Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly, and the women he described in the infamous hot mike tape.
How can any American stand with this PIG of a person?
No, this is not a political comment but rather a humanist comment. Would any of you readers teach your grandsons to have such misogyny in their lives?
ColdNoMore
06-29-2017, 07:02 PM
It does not matter what political persuasion you are, you have to agree that Trump's tweets about Mika Bryzenski were unworthy of someone who is President of the USA.
It just shows his disdain for women - just as he did with Hillary, Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly, and the women he described in the infamous hot mike tape.
How can any American stand with this PIG of a person?
No, this is not a political comment but rather a humanist comment. Would any of you readers teach your grandsons to have such misogyny in their lives?
He was, and always will be...a thin-skinned bully and a thug. :ohdear:
No wonder his approval ratings are so low here...and around the world.
Taltarzac725
06-29-2017, 07:16 PM
It does not matter what political persuasion you are, you have to agree that Trump's tweets about Mika Bryzenski were unworthy of someone who is President of the USA.
It just shows his disdain for women - just as he did with Hillary, Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly, and the women he described in the infamous hot mike tape.
How can any American stand with this PIG of a person?
No, this is not a political comment but rather a humanist comment. Would any of you readers teach your grandsons to have such misogyny in their lives?
Certainly agree with you there.
BobnBev
06-29-2017, 07:19 PM
So, how do we get rid of him. Is Mike Pence a better choice? Is impeachment possible? If he were to resign, does he still get SS protection for life?
dbussone
06-29-2017, 07:21 PM
So, how do we get rid of him. Is Mike Pence a better choice? Is impeachment possible? If he were to resign, does he still get SS protection for life?
Wait 7 1/2 more years. [emoji41]
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Nucky
06-29-2017, 07:23 PM
It does not matter what political persuasion you are, you have to agree that Trump's tweets about Mika Bryzenski were unworthy of someone who is President of the USA.
It just shows his disdain for women - just as he did with Hillary, Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly, and the women he described in the infamous hot mike tape.
How can any American stand with this PIG of a person?
No, this is not a political comment but rather a humanist comment. Would any of you readers teach your grandsons to have such misogyny in their lives?
No wonder this country is in the shape it's in because people are free to pass judgement in writing and beautiful entertainers who are rich because of the opportunities this country provided them are free to decapitate and speak down about our leaders. I stand with the man you call a Pig, I also stand with the women who have been demoralized by our leadership. Nobody is perfect. Take what you like and leave the rest behind. Support the man for 3 years then try your candidate again. Wake up. The negativity is killing this country. If you had a hammer and you hit a rock it wouldn't break and the first hit but keep hitting and eventually the rock will break. Same with our country. Being a subversive is bad for our country wake up before it's too late. chilout
Taltarzac725
06-29-2017, 07:35 PM
No wonder this country is in the shape it's in because people are free to pass judgement in writing and beautiful entertainers who are rich because of the opportunities this country provided them are free to decapitate and speak down about our leaders. I stand with the man you call a Pig, I also stand with the women who have been demoralized by our leadership. Nobody is perfect. Take what you like and leave the rest behind. Support the man for 3 years then try your candidate again. Wake up. The negativity is killing this country. If you had a hammer and you hit a rock it wouldn't break and the first hit but keep hitting and eventually the rock will break. Same with our country. Being a subversive is bad for our country wake up before it's too late. chilout
The US is in bad shape because Donald John Trump is President of the United States and people are starting to realize that.
Paper1
06-29-2017, 08:21 PM
It does not matter what political persuasion you are, you have to agree that Trump's tweets about Mika Bryzenski were unworthy of someone who is President of the USA.
It just shows his disdain for women - just as he did with Hillary, Carly Fiorina, Megyn Kelly, and the women he described in the infamous hot mike tape.
How can any American stand with this PIG of a person?
No, this is not a political comment but rather a humanist comment. Would any of you readers teach your grandsons to have such misogyny in their lives?
I am not even close to being a Trump fan but she has been attacking him for as long as I can remember using her position as a cable news anchor. He just called her out, maybe a little over aggressively.
Nucky
06-29-2017, 09:46 PM
I am not even close to being a Trump fan but she has been attacking him for as long as I can remember using her position as a cable news anchor. He just called her out, maybe a little over aggressively.
I don't know who she is? Never heard that name before either. What happened that could be so important? I'm not Googling it either. Lighten up you'll live longer. Run the country already forget the distractions. :clap2::clap2::clap2:
Don Baldwin
06-29-2017, 10:24 PM
The US is in bad shape because Donald John Trump is President of the United States and people are starting to realize that.
This country is in bad shape because it's becoming a minority majority.
NO 50% or more black/brown country has ever been successful. We're passing 50% now.
wjboyer1
06-29-2017, 11:25 PM
I am not even close to being a Trump fan but she has been attacking him for as long as I can remember using her position as a cable news anchor. He just called her out, maybe a little over aggressively.
Attacking a political stance, or even a logical stance (neither of which Trump can do) is COMPLETELY different than a personal attack. Mika Brzezinski made political comment, not personal comment and was then attacked PERSONALLY by the president of the United States.
This is a typical ad hominem attack that is now quite evident from EVERYONE in the Trump camp, including Trump. It is apparent that non-civilized and non-ethical people seem to think that ANY criticism of their political beliefs are a PERSONAL attack, and therefore they have the right to make untrue personal attacks on those who criticize them.
The atmosphere of discontent is now being highlighted by the president of the United States, and as such, those who have NO ethics, scruples, or sense have now been given presidential approval of their bigotry, violence, hatred, and immoral unethical prose and voice.
When You Have Nothing Left (https://www.facebook.com/whenyouhavenothingleft/videos/573864636336476/)
dirtbanker
06-30-2017, 06:02 AM
Attacking a political stance, or even a logical stance (neither of which Trump can do) is COMPLETELY different than a personal attack. Mika Brzezinski made political comment, not personal comment and was then attacked PERSONALLY by the president of the United States.
This is a typical ad hominem attack that is now quite evident from EVERYONE in the Trump camp, including Trump. It is apparent that non-civilized and non-ethical people seem to think that ANY criticism of their political beliefs are a PERSONAL attack, and therefore they have the right to make untrue personal attacks on those who criticize them.
The atmosphere of discontent is now being highlighted by the president of the United States, and as such, those who have NO ethics, scruples, or sense have now been given presidential approval of their bigotry, violence, hatred, and immoral unethical prose and voice.
When You Have Nothing Left (https://www.facebook.com/whenyouhavenothingleft/videos/573864636336476/)
So, it is political to accuse someone of being a racist?
I would have guessed that was a personal attack...
Maybe you should have voted for Crooked Hillary instead of Trump?
Cedwards38
06-30-2017, 06:16 AM
I am not even close to being a Trump fan but she has been attacking him for as long as I can remember using her position as a cable news anchor. He just called her out, maybe a little over aggressively.
Calling her out would be proving her wrong with facts. Insulting her appearance and intellect is simply cyber bullying from a thin skinned man baby. I want a President, not a middle school minded narcissist.
Taltarzac725
06-30-2017, 06:23 AM
Calling her out would be proving her wrong with facts. Insulting her appearance and intellect is simply cyber bullying from a thin skinned man baby. I want a President, not a middle school minded narcissist.
Quite well put. And the sad thing is that many people follow his example with illogical arguments. He trolled his way into the White House based on the anger of many against Barack Obama. Much of this is just racism pure and simple.
dirtbanker
06-30-2017, 06:30 AM
He trolled his way into the White House based on the anger of many against Barack Obama. Much of this is just racism pure and simple.
Why do you believe there was "anger of many against" Obamma?
How is Trumps tweets toward this co-host "just racism"??
dirtbanker
06-30-2017, 06:32 AM
Calling her out would be proving her wrong with facts. Insulting her appearance and intellect is simply cyber bullying from a thin skinned man baby. I want a President, not a middle school minded narcissist.
Was she "proving him wrong with facts" when she accused Trump of being a racist?
graciegirl
06-30-2017, 07:32 AM
Yes. It is in bad taste. It makes me cringe. I say it is because he is a blurter and has an Autism Spectrum disorder. But still.
However, the entry ban was finally upheld. He is getting done some of the things many think are important.
There are a lot of things happening in this country that are making me cringe. And worry. And angry.
Chi-Town
06-30-2017, 08:12 AM
Congress went home leaving a healthcare bill in disarray. Yet Trump is fixated on a talk show host. Here is what's happening, the President is becoming a bad joke from his continuous buffoonery. Give him a chance arguments are fading as time passes.
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graciegirl
06-30-2017, 08:23 AM
Congress went home leaving a healthcare bill in disarray. Yet Trump is fixated on a talk show host. Here is what's happening, the President is becoming a bad joke from his continuous buffoonery. Give him a chance arguments are fading as time passes.
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One thing this guy has that others don't have who are "good" politicians is that no one can buy him with money. He was elected because people were sick of the overdone other sides....both directions. We don't want to be muzzled about political correctness, we don't want socialism, we don't want bleeding heart issues talked about by people who don't really have kindness in them... and some of us have views not quite as far right as the far right. We may stand for legal abortion and for separation of Church and State but we are not atheists... We wanted what we got and now we are stuck with the Blurter, but he is still better than Mrs. Clinton. She is cold to the core and very, very, stealthy. AND....her women's rights are hypocracy. I would have thrown Bill's ass out and lived alone for the rest of my life.
Taltarzac725
06-30-2017, 08:28 AM
One thing this guy has that others don't have who are "good" politicians is that no one can buy him with money. He was elected because people were sick of the overdone other sides....both directions. We don't want to be muzzled about political correctness, we don't want socialism, we don't want bleeding heart issues talked about by people who don't really have kindness in them... and some of us have views not quite as far right as the far right. We may stand for legal abortion and for separation of Church and State but we are not atheists... We wanted what we got and now we are stuck with the Blurter, but he is still better than Mrs. Clinton. She is cold to the core and very, very, stealthy. AND....her women's rights are hypocracy. I would have thrown Bill's ass out and lived alone for the rest of my life.
I agree that she is extremely calculating and TRUMP has done a few good things like help with whistle blowers and the Veterans Administration and with smartening up the airport security where they have really been under-estimating out enemies and their intelligence with respect to technology for bomb making and the like.
Still he cannot get a grip on behavior that would be more apt to a 10 year old.
Don Baldwin
06-30-2017, 08:32 AM
I agree that she is extremely calculating and TRUMP has done a few good things like help with whistle blowers and the Veterans Administration and with smartening up the airport security where they have really been under-estimating out enemies and their intelligence with respect to technology for bomb making and the like.
Still he cannot get a grip on behavior that would be more apt to a 10 year old.
Huh? Where? Where are all these smuggled devices?
They're telling you stories so you'll approve when they want to spend another $100 billion on "security". Money that goes to themselves and their friends.
leftyf
06-30-2017, 08:33 AM
President Trump said absolutely nothing against women. Only against one loudmouth that bashes him everyday and helps to keep this country in chaos.
WAY TO GO TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!
Taltarzac725
06-30-2017, 08:36 AM
President Trump said absolutely nothing against women. Only against one loudmouth that bashes him everyday and helps to keep this country in chaos.
WAY TO GO TRUMP!!!!!!!!!!!!
You have to be kidding!
jebartle
06-30-2017, 09:27 AM
One thing this guy has that others don't have who are "good" politicians is that no one can buy him with money. He was elected because people were sick of the overdone other sides....both directions. We don't want to be muzzled about political correctness, we don't want socialism, we don't want bleeding heart issues talked about by people who don't really have kindness in them... and some of us have views not quite as far right as the far right. We may stand for legal abortion and for separation of Church and State but we are not atheists... We wanted what we got and now we are stuck with the Blurter, but he is still better than Mrs. Clinton. She is cold to the core and very, very, stealthy. AND....her women's rights are hypocracy. I would have thrown Bill's ass out and lived alone for the rest of my life.
We had MANY Choices, but this is what we got!!!
Taltarzac725
06-30-2017, 09:35 AM
We had MANY Choices, but this is what we got!!!
A foul mouthed immature bully for a President.
dirtbanker
06-30-2017, 09:40 AM
A foul mouthed immature bully for a President. There you go casting stones...The flip side of that he could be a 50+ year old bust out living in his parents spare room in a retirement community talking about "Sucking Putin's cock" on a forum...
Taltarzac725
06-30-2017, 09:55 AM
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Harassment on the Political Forum.
Chi-Town
06-30-2017, 09:59 AM
There you go casting stones...The flip side of that he could be a 50+ year old bust out living in his parents spare room in a retirement community talking about "Sucking Putin's cock" on a forum...
He was referring to Stephen Colbert's rant. Watch.
Stephen Colbert infamous Trump rant - YouTube (https://youtu.be/g9pOQOnkfNY)
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Taltarzac725
06-30-2017, 10:01 AM
He was referring to Stephen Colbert's rant. Watch.
Stephen Colbert infamous Trump rant - YouTube (https://youtu.be/g9pOQOnkfNY)
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Enjoy Colbert some of the time. This comes up a lot in comedy involving Trump and Putin. Saturday Night Live implied as much quite often and they are well within their rights as to the First Amendment. Harassment though like you are seeing on TOTV Political Forum against me is illegal under Florida Law. Not that they enforce the law all that often. And I really do not want to be the subject of some drink at Red Sauce because of the stupidity of some posters on TOTV's Political Forum. This poster dirtbanker though should be banned from TOTV NOW!
graciegirl
06-30-2017, 10:11 AM
We had MANY Choices, but this is what we got!!!
Yes we did. And I was turned off by all of them. At least this one can't be bought and he knows how to run a successful business. I didn't want to vote for a person for saint. NOR one who could run a spy agency. I didn't want a Socialist in any clothing. I wanted someone who would keep the extreme Muslims out and let the people who would work and take care of their families in. I wanted someone who wasn't fake and someone who was telling me that some punk could be his son. I can change my political thoughts but not my color or my age and I don't want to change my philosophy on the work ethic and not stealing and paying bills and struggling to do better. I am an old, stubborn person who sees drugs ruling this country and articulate people pulling the wool over our eyes. I will stick with the "blurter" for now and keep cringing.
Cedwards38
06-30-2017, 10:23 AM
Was she "proving him wrong with facts" when she accused Trump of being a racist?
Well, yeah! Have you been listening to him?
(1) He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents
(2) He claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican”
(3) The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people
(4) In fact, discrimination against black people has been a pattern in his career
(5) He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him
(6) He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States
(7) He treats racial groups as monoliths
(8) He trashed Native Americans, too
(9) He encouraged the mob justice that resulted in the wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five
(10) He condoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester
(11) He called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino man “passionate”
(12) He stereotyped Jews and shared an anti-Semitic meme created by white supremacists
(13) He treats African-American supporters as tokens to dispel the idea he is racist
Want more detail, then read this article:
Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | HuffPost (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83)
Any one of these makes calling him a racist true.
wjboyer1
06-30-2017, 10:34 AM
70000
rubicon
06-30-2017, 10:44 AM
Let me immediately acknowledge that personally Trump's approach to many situations would not be mine.
However, there have been people in our country's past who have managed greatness overcoming reputations in tatters. In my readings one name that comes to mind is Major General Anthony Wayne.
I make note of this only to emphasize that "what makes us bad also makes us good". So with Trump the very emotions that cause him to tweet also create his declared independence a trait that is desperately needed in Washington cesspool where pork always supersedes principal.
Feminist have said from the beginning of their movement "no quarter asked and no quarter given". Trump responded in kind to this woman's remarks. Trump responded to this woman the same he would a man. This does not likely lend itself then that he is a misogynist ...no quarter asked no quarter given.
Personal Best Regards:
Sandtrap328
06-30-2017, 10:46 AM
Members of Congress (both parties) have gone on the record saying Trump is an embarrassment to America because of his tweets against Mika.
He definitely has a mental illness.
As to what Rubicon just posted, bull hockey. Rubicon would teach his grandsons to have the same attitude toward women as Trump? I hope not. Trump had affairs while married; he talked of grabbing women's gentallia; he talked of a woman's period; he tweets about women's looks. This is the kind of teaching you would do with your grandson, Rubicon?
Shame on you.
jebartle
06-30-2017, 10:59 AM
Yes we did. And I was turned off by all of them. At least this one can't be bought and he knows how to run a successful business. I didn't want to vote for a person for saint. NOR one who could run a spy agency. I didn't want a Socialist in any clothing. I wanted someone who would keep the extreme Muslims out and let the people who would work and take care of their families in. I wanted someone who wasn't fake and someone who was telling me that some punk could be his son. I can change my political thoughts but not my color or my age and I don't want to change my philosophy on the work ethic and not stealing and paying bills and struggling to do better. I am an old, stubborn person who sees drugs ruling this country and articulate people pulling the wool over our eyes. I will stick with the "blurter" for now and keep cringing.
hmmm! How is that working out for you??? Any changes, nope!!!!!
Abby10
06-30-2017, 11:25 AM
Yes we did. And I was turned off by all of them. At least this one can't be bought and he knows how to run a successful business. I didn't want to vote for a person for saint. NOR one who could run a spy agency. I didn't want a Socialist in any clothing. I wanted someone who would keep the extreme Muslims out and let the people who would work and take care of their families in. I wanted someone who wasn't fake and someone who was telling me that some punk could be his son. I can change my political thoughts but not my color or my age and I don't want to change my philosophy on the work ethic and not stealing and paying bills and struggling to do better. I am an old, stubborn person who sees drugs ruling this country and articulate people pulling the wool over our eyes. I will stick with the "blurter" for now and keep cringing.
Love this comment and couldn't agree more. The political scene in Washington has been a mess for so long, it was going to take someone totally outside of the box to make any changes. Republicans tried to do it the "right" way the last time by nominating Mitt Romney - an upstanding businessman and political figure - and you see how that went. Unfortunately, it was going to take someone brazen, outspoken, and non-political to possibly make some real changes. Otherwise, you have a bunch of people in Washington very happy with the status quo- a cushy lifestyle where they serve themselves and not the constituents. At least President Trump will make them work for their money!
I too am not happy with his mouth or his tweets, but the big picture is more important to me than this petty stuff. It seems the Democrats would rather belabor themselves with the petty stuff rather than work toward solutions. Wow - maybe that's the operative word - WORK! Personally, I think Washington is full of "fat cats" that don't know the first thing about real work. Maybe that's the real problem.
Sorry for the rant - I'll blame it on GG - she got me going! :icon_wink:
Abby10
06-30-2017, 12:19 PM
Members of Congress (both parties) have gone on the record saying Trump is an embarrassment to America because of his tweets against Mika.
He definitely has a mental illness.
As to what Rubicon just posted, bull hockey. Rubicon would teach his grandsons to have the same attitude toward women as Trump? I hope not. Trump had affairs while married; he talked of grabbing women's gentallia; he talked of a woman's period; he tweets about women's looks. This is the kind of teaching you would do with your grandson, Rubicon?
Shame on you.
Not that Rubicon cannot defend himself, but just wanted to mention, you might want to re-read the first line that he wrote in the post you are referencing. I think that will answer your question.
Taltarzac725
06-30-2017, 12:23 PM
Love this comment and couldn't agree more. The political scene in Washington has been a mess for so long, it was going to take someone totally outside of the box to make any changes. Republicans tried to do it the "right" way the last time by nominating Mitt Romney - an upstanding businessman and political figure - and you see how that went. Unfortunately, it was going to take someone brazen, outspoken, and non-political to possibly make some real changes. Otherwise, you have a bunch of people in Washington very happy with the status quo- a cushy lifestyle where they serve themselves and not the constituents. At least President Trump will make them work for their money!
I too am not happy with his mouth or his tweets, but the big picture is more important to me than this petty stuff. It seems the Democrats would rather belabor themselves with the petty stuff rather than work toward solutions. Wow - maybe that's the operative word - WORK! Personally, I think Washington is full of "fat cats" that don't know the first thing about real work. Maybe that's the real problem.
Sorry for the rant - I'll blame it on GG - she got me going! :icon_wink:
He seems to be really messing up the big picture the most.
dirtbanker
06-30-2017, 12:25 PM
Well, yeah! Have you been listening to him?
(1) He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents
(2) He claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican”
(3) The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people
(4) In fact, discrimination against black people has been a pattern in his career
(5) He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him
(6) He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States
(7) He treats racial groups as monoliths
(8) He trashed Native Americans, too
(9) He encouraged the mob justice that resulted in the wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five
(10) He condoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester
(11) He called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino man “passionate”
(12) He stereotyped Jews and shared an anti-Semitic meme created by white supremacists
(13) He treats African-American supporters as tokens to dispel the idea he is racist
Want more detail, then read this article:
Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | HuffPost (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83)
Any one of these makes calling him a racist true.
I was going to reply to all of your baseless claims (you agree with the Huffpost I see) , but then I decided to be just as prudent as you are, no data - just opinion. Your claims are simply false!
Abby10
06-30-2017, 12:26 PM
He seems to be really messing up the big picture the most.
Well, that's your take, not mine. Unfortunately, the news media spends more time reporting this kind of crap versus what is actually getting accomplished. I would suggest that you dig deeper in your research of the news to get a better view of that big picture.
Taltarzac725
06-30-2017, 12:56 PM
Well, that's your take, not mine. Unfortunately, the news media spends more time reporting this kind of crap versus what is actually getting accomplished. I would suggest that you dig deeper in your research of the news to get a better view of that big picture.
Regulations removed that hurt the consumer and help big business in many areas.
The mess of ObamaCare is only getting worse under his Administration.
Ethics have gone down across the boards and I mean more than just on the TOTV Political Boards and regular boards.
Congress is even more divided than ever.
The gun lobby has gotten even more powerful.
The Russians have far more influence on our affairs than ever before under Putin loving Donald John Trump.
Don Baldwin
06-30-2017, 01:26 PM
Let me immediately acknowledge that personally Trump's approach to many situations would not be mine.
However, there have been people in our country's past who have managed greatness overcoming reputations in tatters. In my readings one name that comes to mind is Major General Anthony Wayne.
I make note of this only to emphasize that "what makes us bad also makes us good". So with Trump the very emotions that cause him to tweet also create his declared independence a trait that is desperately needed in Washington cesspool where pork always supersedes principal.
Feminist have said from the beginning of their movement "no quarter asked and no quarter given". Trump responded in kind to this woman's remarks. Trump responded to this woman the same he would a man. This does not likely lend itself then that he is a misogynist ...no quarter asked no quarter given.
Personal Best Regards:
He is NOT independent...he works for the real rulers just like all the rest.
Imagine if we men played that way. You'd ALL be living like the Muslim women...locked away in your houses, not allowed out without someone watching you.
Well, yeah! Have you been listening to him?
(1) He attacked Muslim Gold Star parents
(2) He claimed a judge was biased because “he’s a Mexican”
(3) The Justice Department sued his company ― twice ― for not renting to black people
(4) In fact, discrimination against black people has been a pattern in his career
(5) He refused to condemn the white supremacists who are campaigning for him
(6) He questions whether President Obama was born in the United States
(7) He treats racial groups as monoliths
(8) He trashed Native Americans, too
(9) He encouraged the mob justice that resulted in the wrongful imprisonment of the Central Park Five
(10) He condoned the beating of a Black Lives Matter protester
(11) He called supporters who beat up a homeless Latino man “passionate”
(12) He stereotyped Jews and shared an anti-Semitic meme created by white supremacists
(13) He treats African-American supporters as tokens to dispel the idea he is racist
Want more detail, then read this article:
Here Are 13 Examples Of Donald Trump Being Racist | HuffPost (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/donald-trump-racist-examples_us_56d47177e4b03260bf777e83)
Any one of these makes calling him a racist true.
So? I don't see anything wrong with any of that. Sh!t happens.
Members of Congress (both parties) have gone on the record saying Trump is an embarrassment to America because of his tweets against Mika.
He definitely has a mental illness.
As to what Rubicon just posted, bull hockey. Rubicon would teach his grandsons to have the same attitude toward women as Trump? I hope not. Trump had affairs while married; he talked of grabbing women's gentallia; he talked of a woman's period; he tweets about women's looks. This is the kind of teaching you would do with your grandson, Rubicon?
Shame on you.
Oh My God! It's the end of the world...
A man talked about "grabbing some pussy"...he said "she must be ragging it"...he called someone UGLY!!!
The horror! The humanity! WHERE is my SAFE space! I NEED IT! Someone STOP this horror!
rubicon
06-30-2017, 02:47 PM
Love this comment and couldn't agree more. The political scene in Washington has been a mess for so long, it was going to take someone totally outside of the box to make any changes. Republicans tried to do it the "right" way the last time by nominating Mitt Romney - an upstanding businessman and political figure - and you see how that went. Unfortunately, it was going to take someone brazen, outspoken, and non-political to possibly make some real changes. Otherwise, you have a bunch of people in Washington very happy with the status quo- a cushy lifestyle where they serve themselves and not the constituents. At least President Trump will make them work for their money!
I too am not happy with his mouth or his tweets, but the big picture is more important to me than this petty stuff. It seems the Democrats would rather belabor themselves with the petty stuff rather than work toward solutions. Wow - maybe that's the operative word - WORK! Personally, I think Washington is full of "fat cats" that don't know the first thing about real work. Maybe that's the real problem.
Sorry for the rant - I'll blame it on GG - she got me going! :icon_wink:
You are beginning to entering my realm of thinking concerning the obsession with all things Trump.
Trump to me was the lesser of two evils. Trump to me was a method and man to spearhead the monolith we call Washington. He has the set skills to pierce the political correctness and hypocrisy that envelopes Washington politicians and federal bureaucrats and lobbyist), Hollywood, MSM, etc ( call it street smarts)
and call them deep state, administrative state or the regulatory state. Yes they are the usual suspects and their motives are transparent
Make no mistake that all of the above believed they are the anointed ones and their followers pledge allegiance because rich or poor it means federal handouts.
This deep state, et al knew who Trump was before he even decided to run as a candidate. they laughed and said he would never run. When he did they laughed and said he would never last in the primary. and when he ran for president they laughed and said it was one big joke.
Deep state, et al went in to deep depression because they knew he would do what he said he would do.
The only question I have right now is should Trump lose GOP since they will not get behind him. Many of those elected did so on his coattails. These people were elected to assist Trump in carrying out the Republican platform promised GOP voters. GOP Congress is not living up to their promises
To me all of this is not about a man its about a way of life that has been threatened by people who continue to rob us of our freedoms.
Succinctly stated I would vote 100 Trumps before I would ever support someone like Hillary, Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Holder, Lynch, sanders and their unstable followers.
ColdNoMore
06-30-2017, 07:17 PM
You are beginning to entering my realm of thinking concerning the obsession with all things Trump.
Trump to me was the lesser of two evils. Trump to me was a method and man to spearhead the monolith we call Washington. He has the set skills to pierce the political correctness and hypocrisy that envelopes Washington politicians and federal bureaucrats and lobbyist), Hollywood, MSM, etc ( call it street smarts)
and call them deep state, administrative state or the regulatory state. Yes they are the usual suspects and their motives are transparent
Make no mistake that all of the above believed they are the anointed ones and their followers pledge allegiance because rich or poor it means federal handouts.
This deep state, et al knew who Trump was before he even decided to run as a candidate. they laughed and said he would never run. When he did they laughed and said he would never last in the primary. and when he ran for president they laughed and said it was one big joke.
Deep state, et al went in to deep depression because they knew he would do what he said he would do.
The only question I have right now is should Trump lose GOP since they will not get behind him. Many of those elected did so on his coattails. These people were elected to assist Trump in carrying out the Republican platform promised GOP voters. GOP Congress is not living up to their promises
To me all of this is not about a man its about a way of life that has been threatened by people who continue to rob us of our freedoms.
Succinctly stated I would vote 100 Trumps before I would ever support someone like Hillary, Schumer, Pelosi, Reid, Obama, Holder, Lynch, sanders and their unstable followers.
Talk about "unstable followers!" :1rotfl:
You Trump Cultists here continue to prove my observation, that Chump eked out a narrow electoral win for one primary reason... "You hated Hillary...more than you love this great nation." :oops:
The continued excuses and fingers in ears concerning what this thin-skinned, misogynistic, bigoted, bullying thug has done to damage the most important elected position on the planet...is beyond comprehension. :ohdear:
Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:
wjboyer1
06-30-2017, 11:19 PM
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MDLNB
07-01-2017, 04:04 AM
Talk about "unstable followers!" :1rotfl:
You Trump Cultists here continue to prove my observation, that Chump eked out a narrow electoral win for one primary reason... "You hated Hillary...more than you love this great nation." :oops:
The continued excuses and fingers in ears concerning what this thin-skinned, misogynistic, bigoted, bullying thug has done to damage the most important elected position on the planet...is beyond comprehension. :ohdear:
Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:
Narrow win? You prove to be more of an idiot every day.
rubicon
07-01-2017, 04:34 AM
When I first read "Beneath the dignity" my thoughts went to how creative Clinton was said to be with a cigar.
Can you imagine using the White House, the oval room ,etc for your sexual exploits...now that is what I call being beneath the dignity. that and a stained blue dress
Personal Best Regards:
Don Baldwin
07-01-2017, 06:28 AM
When I first read "Beneath the dignity" my thoughts went to how creative Clinton was said to be with a cigar.
Can you imagine using the White House, the oval room ,etc for your sexual exploits...now that is what I call being beneath the dignity. that and a stained blue dress
Personal Best Regards:
Rubi...I'd wager EVERY president has had sex in the oval office. With or without the missus.
Taltarzac725
07-01-2017, 06:33 AM
GOP senators: Trump attack on MSNBC hosts 'beneath the dignity' of his office | TheHill (http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/340037-gop-senators-trump-attack-on-morning-joe-hosts-beneath-the-dignity-of-his)
How about what Republican senators are saying about Donald John Trump's tweets?
This is 2017 not Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinski. Monica Lewinsky - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monica_Lewinsky) It is terrible how the Clinton fans treated her. But it is rotten how anyone who speaks up against the bullying by Donald John Trump is now in many of the same ways held to task by his minions. Trump is about Trump and not America.
Cedwards38
07-01-2017, 07:02 AM
I was going to reply to all of your baseless claims (you agree with the Huffpost I see) , but then I decided to be just as prudent as you are, no data - just opinion. Your claims are simply false!
Are you denying that he said and did these things when we've all heard them over and over from his speeches during the campaign? If you deny what you hear, that's just sticking your head in the sand. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the HuffPost. These are just reports of incidents that we've all heard him say many times on broadcast media. It's not opinion if you are just reporting or showing video of what he said. That's called journalism.
Taltarzac725
07-01-2017, 07:05 AM
Are you denying that he said and did these things when we've all heard them over and over from his speeches during the campaign? If you deny what you hear, that's just sticking your head in the sand. I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the HuffPost. These are just reports of incidents that we've all heard him say many times on broadcast media. It's not opinion if you are just reporting or showing video of what he said. That's called journalism.
Trump Campaign Chief’s Firm Got $17 Million From Pro-Russia Party - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/06/27/us/politics/trump-campaign-chiefs-firm-got-17-million-from-pro-russia-party.html) This is interesting.
Sandtrap328
07-01-2017, 08:05 AM
When I first read "Beneath the dignity" my thoughts went to how creative Clinton was said to be with a cigar.
Can you imagine using the White House, the oval room ,etc for your sexual exploits...now that is what I call being beneath the dignity. that and a stained blue dress
Personal Best Regards:
...and so goes the diversion to another subject - a tactic taught by "Rules for Radicals".
IF Rubicon will re-read my opening sentence of my original post, I said it does not matter which political party you belong to...and this was not a political post but a humanist post.
I also asked if any of the posters would teach their grandsons the misogyny of Trump is the proper way to treat women (laughing about grabbing them by their gentallia, mocking their appearance, mocking their intelligence, etc). I did not see any replies to this part of the post? What about YOU, Rubicon?
No replies about past presidents - stay on topic.
Sandtrap328
07-01-2017, 11:18 AM
Well, Mr. Rubicon, haven't heard a reply from you regarding your teachings to your grandsons. Or from any other posters, as a matter of fact.
I certainly hope nobody deems it appropriate for the President to be tweeting out such vile messages.
cbg150
07-01-2017, 01:07 PM
This country is in bad shape because it's becoming a minority majority.
NO 50% or more black/brown country has ever been successful. We're passing 50% now.
That's what it comes down to with many Trump supporters, they see everything through a prism of racism and white privilege!
In America we judge you by the content of your character, not by the color of your skin. This type of statement indicates a character that is morally bankrupt!
Don Baldwin
07-01-2017, 02:07 PM
That's what it comes down to with many Trump supporters, they see everything through a prism of racism and white privilege!
In America we judge you by the content of your character, not by the color of your skin. This type of statement indicates a character that is morally bankrupt!
What do you think I judge them by? Their CHARACTER. How clean and safe they keep their neighborhoods. How they improve the schools as their numbers increase. How much skill and dedication they bring to their employer. How everything they touch...turns to gold.
As you well know...they do NONE of that. They DESTROY everything they touch. They NEED quotas because NO employer WANTS them there. They bring down schools...EVERY school they become the majority in. They DESTROY neighborhoods and cities bringing danger and squalor.
Yes...cbg I certainly DO judge them by their character.
Can you tell a mongoloid...Down's syndrome...by looking at them? Would you make one your company CEO? You can tell a black by their skin, hair, bone structure, musculature, physical features, and smell...when looking at THEM...and you DON'T want to make them your CEO either.
It's common sense...YOU call it racism.
rubicon
07-01-2017, 03:24 PM
Rubi...I'd wager EVERY president has had sex in the oval office. With or without the missus.
First are you referring to sex with their wives or girlfriends?
Secondly, Ronald Reagan held such a high regard for the office of president while working in the oval office he never so much as removed his suit jacket. so I'll wager he never had sex in the oval office even with his wife.
Nor do I believe Harry s. Truman would have or George Bush or his son W.
Personal Best Regards:
Don Baldwin
07-01-2017, 03:44 PM
First are you referring to sex with their wives or girlfriends?
Secondly, Ronald Reagan held such a high regard for the office of president while working in the oval office he never so much as removed his suit jacket. so I'll wager he never had sex in the oval office even with his wife.
Nor do I believe Harry s. Truman would have or George Bush or his son W.
Personal Best Regards:
Missus means wife...what's your question?
And they say in the end...he was batsh!t crazy...I don't KNOW and neither do you. There's the public persona...and then the PRIVATE when nobody is looking real person.
"We", the public actually KNOW nothing about what he was really like. Books can and are full of sh!t. There are a LOT of books not worth the ink used to print them...let alone the poor tree sacrificed for garbage.
He was an actor, actors make great politicians because ACT is what politicians DO...they ACT concerned and like they want to help...but they work for the powerful who own the corporations and WILL do their bidding.
You don't think W would? I do...his daughters took after him...from what "I know".
wozencraftsl
07-03-2017, 10:27 AM
It was a toss-up between Hillary, Bernie and Donald Trump. At least Pres. Trump is for this country and trying hard to make America Great Again. The other two would have continued the destruction from where Obama left off. Hillary and Bernie are both major criminals. Hillary worse than Bernie. So glad neither one of them won. Pres. Trump has done more for this country than Obama did in the 8 years he occupied that position.
jebartle
07-03-2017, 11:23 AM
It was a toss-up between Hillary, Bernie and Donald Trump. At least Pres. Trump is for this country and trying hard to make America Great Again. The other two would have continued the destruction from where Obama left off. Hillary and Bernie are both major criminals. Hillary worse than Bernie. So glad neither one of them won. Pres. Trump has done more for this country than Obama did in the 8 years he occupied that position.
Someone has forgotten the promise congress made, "make Obama a one term president", and oppose anything Obama brings to congress. Btw what has Trump accomplished beside signing eo's, nothing!
Rockyrd
07-03-2017, 11:24 AM
It was a toss-up between Hillary, Bernie and Donald Trump. At least Pres. Trump is for this country and trying hard to make America Great Again. The other two would have continued the destruction from where Obama left off. Hillary and Bernie are both major criminals. Hillary worse than Bernie. So glad neither one of them won. Pres. Trump has done more for this country than Obama did in the 8 years he occupied that position.
Like ?
The total disrespect now openly in the entire world, along with lack of trust
The public demeaning of our court system, our investigative branches, and most all of our agencies, manned by great hard working Americans who make public service their life, total opposite of the person demeaning them all....ALL PUBLIC CRITIQUES
The lobbying for Russia in the halls of congress because the congress voted 97-2 for sanctions and this WH is lobbying on Russia's behalf.
The public firing of THREE justice employees because they were investigating HIM
The support given to alt right and conspiracy groups
The unfair, NEVER documented attack of the media in the US while embracing the Russian media openly
The lying, at minimum, weekly to the American people.
The attacks on an ex President, UNDOCUMENTED, and with no reason except being mean spirited.
The unsubstantiated claim about 5 million immigrants voting illegally
The great embarrassment in how he treated the leader of Germany
The insulting remarks to the mayor of London, while the mayor was handling a terror strike.
Trump s inability to focus on and push forward any legislation
These are from a mere 5 months in office.
You pick which one is making the country great again. ALL polls, and not a big fan of polls, but nonetheless, this country has never been less admired in its history throughout the world.
First 4th of July, I can only stand proud of our past, our welcoming, tolerant country..certainly not the present.
Rockyrd
07-03-2017, 11:27 AM
Someone has forgotten the promise congress made, "make Obama a one term president", and oppose anything Obama brings to congress. Btw what has Trump accomplished beside signing eo's, nothing!
"Here’s John Boehner, the likely speaker if Republicans take the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”"
The GOP's no-compromise pledge - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2010/10/the-gops-no-compromise-pledge-044311)
Allegiance
07-03-2017, 11:27 AM
Like ?
The total disrespect now openly in the entire world, along with lack of trust
The public demeaning of our court system, our investigative branches, and most all of our agencies, manned by great hard working Americans who make public service their life, total opposite of the person demeaning them all....ALL PUBLIC CRITIQUES
The lobbying for Russia in the halls of congress because the congress voted 97-2 for sanctions and this WH is lobbying on Russia's behalf.
The public firing of THREE justice employees because they were investigating HIM
The support given to alt right and conspiracy groups
The unfair, NEVER documented attack of the media in the US while embracing the Russian media openly
The lying, at minimum, weekly to the American people.
The attacks on an ex President, UNDOCUMENTED, and with no reason except being mean spirited.
The unsubstantiated claim about 5 million immigrants voting illegally
The great embarrassment in how he treated the leader of Germany
The insulting remarks to the mayor of London, while the mayor was handling a terror strike.
Trump s inability to focus on and push forward any legislation
These are from a mere 5 months in office.
You pick which one is making the country great again. ALL polls, and not a big fan of polls, but nonetheless, this country has never been less admired in its history throughout the world.
First 4th of July, I can only stand proud of our past, our welcoming, tolerant country..certainly not the present.
Such hatred. It's a shame you are too old to appreciate what Trump will do in his 2nd term.
Taltarzac725
07-03-2017, 12:58 PM
"Here’s John Boehner, the likely speaker if Republicans take the House, offering his plans for Obama’s agenda: “We're going to do everything — and I mean everything we can do — to kill it, stop it, slow it down, whatever we can.”
Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell summed up his plan to National Journal: “The single most important thing we want to achieve is for President Obama to be a one-term president.”"
The GOP's no-compromise pledge - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2010/10/the-gops-no-compromise-pledge-044311)
I remember that.
Susan Schonfeld
07-03-2017, 07:32 PM
You are supposed to tell your children you can be anything even a President. A president should be setting the example of someone who has all the greatest qualities of a human being to look up to and aspire to become. He is a sad joke.
Susan Schonfeld
07-03-2017, 07:34 PM
And 95% of your. eighbors voted for him knowing he was like this.
ColdNoMore
07-03-2017, 07:36 PM
You are supposed to tell your children you can be anything even a President. A president should be setting the example of someone who has all the greatest qualities of a human being to look up to and aspire to become. He is a sad joke.
That is what is so sad that it's not a joke...he really is the POTUS. :oops:
He's the most powerful man in the world, yet he acts like a problem adolescent...and some people just eat it up.
What's next, Chump will start tweeting fart jokes? :ohdear:
Allegiance
07-03-2017, 07:57 PM
Obama spent years saying amen after rev. Wright said horrific things about whitey. Obama sucked Rev wright's dick..... right Tal?
Rockyrd
07-03-2017, 07:58 PM
That is what is so sad that it's not a joke...he really is the POTUS. :oops:
He's the most powerful man in the world, yet he acts like a problem adolescent...and some people just eat it up.
What's next, Chump will start tweeting fart jokes? :ohdear:
I can recall Fox News people, and specially Republican congressman Peter King (and twitter world) going ballistic and saying how UNPresidential Obama was because he wore a brown suit.
They also at Fox felt he was also not acting like a President when he took a selfie at a meeting.
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