Pool or no pool

[glomonac]

Wife and I are undecided about buying a Villages house with a pool. Can anyone let me know advantages, disadvantages, costs involved?
Thanks,
Guy

[Wiotte]

Wife and I are undecided about buying a Villages house with a pool. Can anyone let me know advantages, disadvantages, costs involved?
Thanks,
Guy

No disadvantages, a pool will make you and wife happy ! Get the biggest one you can find, which would be concrete. Lots of blue speckles in that shot-crete.

[splashes]

A Pool is great IF YOU USE IT. We had a pool in our first house and never used it because we were so busy. It is a money pit any way you look at it. Bought our 2nd and 3rd house and would not have a pool. With so many pools near by, why do the work or spend the money for maintainance. Just my thoughts

[justjim]

Its a personal decision and depends on what you want. As far as needing a pool that is a different question. There will be a pool close to wherever you decide to purchase in TV. It will be heated in the winter and well maintained. Had pools in the past and no longer wanted the maintenance. It's a good place to socialize or just go swim/sunbathe or read a book. Cost wise it depends on how elaborate you want to go. I've heard 70,000 will buy you an average pool covered with a birdcage. Some I've seen here are obviously more expensive. To each his own....

[kcrazorbackfan]

Definition of a pool - "a hole in the ground to pour your money into". Having owned one before (yes, in Arkansas we had in-ground pools), it's just my opinion.

There's just so many pools in TV that you can use to justify the cost of building and maintaining one. Again, just my opinion..........

[cmj1210]

We are in our second house & it has a pool. I wouldn't buy another home without one. It is a personal choice.


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[Happinow]

If you think you will use a pool...get it! Here in Florida they are not a money pit as someone else stated. We have a large pool, 16x32 and we use it practically every day when it's warm enough. We have lived here for 5 years and still love our pool. We said even if we moved to a different house we would still have a pool as long as its in a sub tropical or tropical place. We have T&D care for it weekly and it's been wonderful. Nothing like stepping out your back door and jumping in your own pool...day or night.

A pool in a cooler climate is a waste of money. We had one when we lived in NYS and said never again unless we didn't have to open and close it. Perfect here in Florida.

[Pearson14505]

We love our pool, use it all the time. Also put in a hot tub, we use it just as much as the pool. We had T & D design our pool, hot tub and outside area when we were building our house. Did an outstanding job!

[villagetinker]

We went with just a hot tub, as the pool is 2 blocks away. I use the hot tub 2 4 times a week, and love it. I also turn off the heaters during the summer, and use it to cool off.

[Chi-Town]

With a pool you will always have a water view.

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[cmj1210]

With a pool you will always have a water view.

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[Carl in Tampa]

Have owned a house with a pool for 33 years. If I added up all the days that I have actually been IN the pool it would probably amount to about one year.

When the kids were pre-teens they used it some, and had friends over, usually for a birthday party.

Sometimes we had pool side cookouts, like the 4th of July, and maybe someone would get in the pool.

It could be pleasant to sit beside the pool at twilight on a Summer evening with no lights except the pool lights casting their blue-green light against the pool screen.

But............. on more than one occasion I have seriously considered either tearing it out or filling it with dirt and making it into a garden. Maintenance can be expensive. And, if you own it long enough you will have to have it re-plastered, which is expensive.

If I were just starting out, I would opt for a very nice spa, and go to the neighborhood pool when I wanted pool time. Even the spa will require close regulation of the chemical balance and other attention.

[Madelaine Amee]

Have owned a house with a pool for 33 years. If I added up all the days that I have actually been IN the pool it would probably amount to about one year.

When the kids were pre-teens they used it some, and had friends over, usually for a birthday party.

Sometimes we had pool side cookouts, like the 4th of July, and maybe someone would get in the pool.

It could be pleasant to sit beside the pool at twilight on a Summer evening with no lights except the pool lights casting their blue-green light against the pool screen.

But............. on more than one occasion I have seriously considered either tearing it out or filling it with dirt and making it into a garden. Maintenance can be expensive. And, if you own it long enough you will have to have it re-plastered, which is expensive.

If I were just starting out, I would opt for a very nice spa, and go to the neighborhood pool when I wanted pool time. Even the spa will require close regulation of the chemical balance and other attention.

We had a pool when our kids were young, it was great I knew where they were all the time, and I also knew where all the neighborhood kids were all the time:a20:., and we had some great adult parties which went well into the night!!! But, now at my age, I am done with pools, and if I want to swim I have the choice of many pools here - thank you TV.

[jojo]

We've had our pool eight years and our only expense is weekly cleaning (around $22) and electricity for the pump. We have a small pool so we only run the pump 4 hours a day and the cost is negligible. I think we're overdue for a pump but so far so good. I like the aesthetics of the pool as well as having it there to cool off in the summer. It also gets reflections of the sunset which we enjoy.

[Bogie Shooter]

Wife and I are undecided about buying a Villages house with a pool. Can anyone let me know advantages, disadvantages, costs involved?
Thanks,
Guy

Using the search function on this site, resulted in these threads:
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/contractors-services-91/pools-243152/?highlight=building+pool
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/contractors-services-91/looking-recommendation-pool-builders-242101/?highlight=building+pool
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/contractors-services-91/t-d-all-seasons-pools-235008/?highlight=building+pool
https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-general-discussion-73/would-like-recomendations-pool-installations-192563/?highlight=building+pool

[graciegirl]

We've had our pool eight years and our only expense is weekly cleaning (around $22) and electricity for the pump. We have a small pool so we only run the pump 4 hours a day and the cost is negligible. I think we're overdue for a pump but so far so good. I like the aesthetics of the pool as well as having it there to cool off in the summer. It also gets reflections of the sunset which we enjoy.

This is our first pool and we have had it a couple of years. We love looking at it, sitting by it and swimming in it. We have the same expenses as Jojo and the same pleasures.

[CSilvestrucci]

I am in my 2nd house in TV. I have had a pool in both. After 7 years, no regrets. T & D maintains for what I think is very reasonable. We are in it almost daily 😎

[photo1902]

We've had our pool since 2015. I have never had a pool before, and I can tell you I could not imagine NOT having one now. I know I'm spoiled. I was concerned about the cost of power and upkeep, and was pleasantly surprised how inexpensive it is, especially given the pump we have, which is variable speed. I chose to do the maintenance myself, which involves a weekly trip to the T&D store, for a free water analysis.

We love our pool, and use it daily.

[Debfrommaine]

We LOVE our pool...........have an automatic cleaner and hubby takes the sample down to Colony Plaza for testing, easy enough. So pleased we made the decision to get. Even when we do not use it due to weather or whatever, beautiful to just sit around and relax.

[manaboutown]

Also in your own pool you can be confident there will be no "p" (unless you or a guest put it in there) as there is no "p" in Lake Sumter.


Public Pool Safety: Are You Swimming in Poop? (http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2016/06/04/swimming-pool-poops.aspx)

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2017/05/18/pool-parasites-on-the-rise/101833016/

[glomonac]

Thanks to all for the info, much appreciated
Guy

[keithwand]

We love our 16x32 pool. It's heated by solar so when the pool is 85-89 we are in it.
No regrets and T&D maintains it so nothing but fun.
Even though we leave for the summer we would still do a pool.

[BK001]

Wife and I are undecided about buying a Villages house with a pool. Can anyone let me know advantages, disadvantages, costs involved?
Thanks,
Guy

My husband and I had no interest in a pool (we're just not "water" people) but the house we found with outdoor living space that we fell in love with has a pool. It's not huge but plenty big enough for us. Now that we've had it for the past year, I can honestly say I absolutely love it. Yes there are plenty of pools nearby but there is nothing like jumping in your own pool early in the morning then drinking coffee on the lanai. Or at dusk, after dinner. Is is so convenient. If we ever move (unlikely) I would definitely look for a pool.

It costs us $100 per month for a man to come every week. He cleans the pool and adjusts the chemicals. I don't know if the price is competitive but the company was one that the previous owners used so we just continued with them.

[It's Hot There]

Are most private pools, salt water??

[Henryk]

I've lived here for a year and a half. I frequently take my cart for everything, no matter how far. In all my journeys up and down Morse, Odell, Bailey, 466, Stillwater, etc. I have NEVER seen a person in their pool.

We looked into putting in a pool: $50-60k! So if you want one, I'd buy a house with one. I doubt a pool would pay for itself at sale time.

The pools in TV rec centers are well maintained and heated in winter. Good enough for me!

[graciegirl]

Are most private pools, salt water??

I dunno. Ours is.

[Lottoguy]

I had an above ground pool up north. Never again would I own another one. They are expensive to maintain. I suggest you use the pools in The Villages. They are a great place for socializing and meeting new people. You won't get that if you have your own pool. My two cents.

[Lottoguy]

My brother has a pool in Orlando. Every ten years they have to have the walls redone. This time will cost him around $9,000. Once you get one small crack either in the pool or on the deck its down hill from there.

[photo1902]

I had an above ground pool up north. Never again would I own another one. They are expensive to maintain. I suggest you use the pools in The Villages. They are a great place for socializing and meeting new people. You won't get that if you have your own pool. My two cents.

Expensive to maintain depends on your interpretation of expensive. With the variable speed filter we have, I estimate its $2-$3 a day in electricity. Being a salt water pool, the cost of chemicals is neglible. $6 for a 50lb bag of salt, of which I add maybe one bag a year. Various other chemicals (Muriatic Acid) to keep the pH in check, is $5 a gallon, which lasts months, especially in the winter season. I'd never had a pool, so I was always under the belief pools were "expensive". I was pleasantly surprised, and have gotten so much joy out of being able to walk out to my lanai and jump in. No carting to the neighborhood pool and listening to the gossip. In addition, I've never been a public pool fan.

[charmed59]

We use our pool everyday. We find getting home from a warm morning of tennis or pickleball is the perfect time to just jump in the pool, without changing to swimsuits and wandering down to the neighborhood pool. It's great for rehab after getting those injuries one does from playing lots of sports. It's relaxing to read and float in the afternoons. (In your own pool you can use whatever kind of floating device you want...). If you are living here through the warm months I find it a great plus.

[crash]

A Pool is great IF YOU USE IT. We had a pool in our first house and never used it because we were so busy. It is a money pit any way you look at it. Bought our 2nd and 3rd house and would not have a pool. With so many pools near by, why do the work or spend the money for maintainance. Just my thoughts

Agree with splashes 100%. Have had pools and called them money pits in the back yard.

[crash]

Expensive to maintain depends on your interpretation of expensive. With the variable speed filter we have, I estimate its $2-$3 a day in electricity. Being a salt water pool, the cost of chemicals is neglible. $6 for a 50lb bag of salt, of which I add maybe one bag a year. Various other chemicals (Muriatic Acid) to keep the pH in check, is $5 a gallon, which lasts months, especially in the winter season. I'd never had a pool, so I was always under the belief pools were "expensive". I was pleasantly surprised, and have gotten so much joy out of being able to walk out to my lanai and jump in. No carting to the neighborhood pool and listening to the gossip. In addition, I've never been a public pool fan.

The expense is not just the regular maintenance but replacing the pump, re plastering, acid washing etc.

[keithwand]

and?

[photo1902]

The expense is not just the regular maintenance but replacing the pump, re plastering, acid washing etc.

Acid washing should not required if you follow proper pool maintenance, nor should re-plastering. Since we don't have to worry about winterizing down here (and doing it correctly) that eliminates most of the problems requiring a drain and clean. And yes, pool pumps can be expensive, but they can last 10-12 years easily. Especially the newer, variable speed ones. The bottom line is that it comes down to personal preference. The weekly cleaning and cost of electricity is well worth the joy the pool has and continues to bring me.

[graciegirl]

You can get up, walk out and go in in your nightie if you want to.

AND...

Most pools are designed not to see swimmers in the pool from the street so the poster who can't see swimmers as he drives down the street doesn't know how Vera designs pools. The rise on ours is toward the street although our screens are floor to ceiling.

[Schneil]

We were absolutely against the idea of having a pool, since we have many pools within walking, golf cart distance from the house. That idea went out the window after we experienced our first summer. T&D custom built our pool adding a "beach area" for water recliners and pool exercise, the pool is 38' long enough for short laps! The best feature was adding umbrella holes in the cement at both ends of the pool for shade. We have witnessed the winds blow umbrellas into neighbors pools and through birdcage. Solar panels extend the use of the pool through fall and earlier in spring. During hottest part of summer, we turn them off. We love the privacy, peace, and ability to let grandkids play with their toys which are not allowed in the family pools. We do not regret our decision!

[Wiotte]

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Our T&D pool at late dusk. Can't skinny dip at the neighborhoods...


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[Blessed2BNTV]

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Our T&D pool at late dusk. Can't skinny dip at the neighborhoods...


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Nice! And yep no skinny dippin' in neighborhood pools 😊

Our next forever home will include a pool!

[suebanj]

Just had the grandchildren here and so glad we have the pool. Jumping in all during the day when we weren't doing other activities and when the dark clouds and rain comes, we just run inside!

[keithwand]

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Our T&D pool at late dusk. Can't skinny dip at the neighborhoods...


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Nice pool. Is that a Fiberglas unit. What was the rough cost if you don't mind.

[Wiotte]

Nice pool. Is that a Fiberglas unit. What was the rough cost if you don't mind.



It's gunite 15 x 30. Don't know the cost, it came with the new build.


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[CowBubba]

A home without a pool in this heat is a home not yet completed.

[graciegirl]

We love it. It is almost as nice to sit next to it as to be in it. I love T&D, from Vera who was our sales/designer to the people who come and service it weekly...great company. Our first pool. It is heavenly.

[CowBubba]

We love it. It is almost as nice to sit next to it as to be in it. I love T&D, from Vera who was our sales/designer to the people who come and service it weekly...great company. Our first pool. It is heavenly.

T&D did ours also. We have had an inground pool for over 40 years.

[Nucky]

Hey Baby Bubba. Our house is Beautiful, It has no pool and it is definitely Completed even in this heat. Enjoy your pool I know they can be spectacular, like many people in TV'S we have many of them to choose from. Take Care.

[CowBubba]

Hey Baby Bubba. Our house is Beautiful, It has no pool and it is definitely Completed even in this heat. Enjoy your pool I know they can be spectacular, like many people in TV'S we have many of them to choose from. Take Care.

Ohooo. I'm sorry, I meant no disrespect to your choice of home design. For us, to live in Florida without a pool is like living in Alaska without a 4 wheel drive vehicle to explore the country. I did not mean to insinuate that you could not afford a pool. Please accept my apology.

[Nucky]

Ohooo. I'm sorry, I meant no disrespect to your choice of home design. For us, to live in Florida without a pool is like living in Alaska without a 4 wheel drive vehicle to explore the country. I did not mean to insinuate that you could not afford a pool. Please accept my apology.

We are good. I sort of thought that's what you meant but being new on here just keeping the record straight. Cool handle....CowBubba....I love it. Take Care and enjoy the pool. If we did have a pool it wouldn't be skinny dipping maybe chunky dunking. :wave:

[CowBubba]

We are good. I sort of thought that's what you meant but being new on here just keeping the record straight. Cool handle....CowBubba....I love it. Take Care and enjoy the pool. If we did have a pool it wouldn't be skinny dipping maybe chunky dunking. :wave:

Thanks for understanding. I know about skinny dipping but not familiar with chunky dunking.:smiley:

[Fredster]

I had an above ground pool up north. Never again would I own another one. They are expensive to maintain. I suggest you use the pools in The Villages. They are a great place for socializing and meeting new people. You won't get that if you have your own pool. My two cents.

I also had a pool when the kids were young ,
and that was great fun, but it was a lot of work and expense.
Having so many pools readily available and well maintained is very nice,
and like Lottoguy says it is a great way to socialize and meet others!
But then again, everyone has to find their own bliss!

[asianthree]

Ohooo. I'm sorry, I meant no disrespect to your choice of home design. For us, to live in Florida without a pool is like living in Alaska without a 4 wheel drive vehicle to explore the country. I did not mean to insinuate that you could not afford a pool. Please accept my apology.

Many pay cash for their home, so money is not the problem. We always had a pool when kids were young, since grands can only stay 30 days here, it's not high on list of wants. We have the room, just thinking a spa would do us better. T&D giving us after market ideas.

[mixsonci]

We went with just a hot tub, as the pool is 2 blocks away. I use the hot tub 2 4 times a week, and love it. I also turn off the heaters during the summer, and use it to cool off.

How do you turn off the heaters?

[Wiotte]

Many pay cash for their home, so money is not the problem. We always had a pool when kids were young, since grands can only stay 30 days here, it's not high on list of wants. We have the room, just thinking a spa would do us better. T&D giving us after market ideas.

At least 90% of the lots here are too small for a pool. 5% can fit a tiny pool which leaves not much of a selection if you want a decent sized pool. Decent for me would be minimum 15 X 30. I liked the town pool when I was a kid, not so much now.

[Fredster]

How do you turn off the heaters?

I had a hot tub years ago, and if I remember right.
The temperature was adjustable and the heat
could also be turned off!

[asianthree]

At least 90% of the lots here are too small for a pool. 5% can fit a tiny pool which leaves not much of a selection if you want a decent sized pool. Decent for me would be minimum 15 X 30. I liked the town pool when I was a kid, not so much now.

We chose a corner lot with no one behind us for that reason, just in case we chose a pool. Have plans from another company who did plans for a little larger than 15x30, and spa separate area. Also a outdoor fireplace, still going to wait for T&D quote

[lauriesarauer]

Moved here 2 months ago from WI, had to have a pool. Already have used it more than ours all year in WI! Love it!

[l2ridehd]

No one addressed the cost of owning and building a pool. I have had one since 2008 and will probably always have one. But they are expensive. The $22 a week is just a very small part of the total cost of ownership. I budget $100 a week. And after 9 years of owning two different homes with a pool is right on target. And many will disagree with that figure, but I can prove it many times over.

Electric is more, water is more, taxes are more, gas is more if you heat it. And if you have a pool you will want to be able to use it all year. I have solar and gas heat. And about every three years there will be a major expense. Pump motors last 3 to 5 years. Heaters the same. The solar panels will leak at some point. You will resurface it by the 10 year mark. Pressure washing costs a bit more, Home owner insurance is higher, so do not go into it blind.

Budget $5000 a year and it will cover about every variable. And even at that price I still believe it is worth having every time the grand kids come visit.

Cost to build can vary between $40,000 and $120,000, maybe higher depending on size, features, outside living space added, SPA or no SPA, technology, and other features. My first home pool was small, 12 X 28, pretty basic, no SPA, gas heat and solar panels, no extras. Cost about $40,000. My second home has a medium size pool, 14 by 30 with 3 feet to 6 feet depth, SPA, and every available option. LED lighting, solar and gas heat, remote control of everything, privacy wall, mosaics on the bottom, ladders, sitting shelf, special decking surface, and a 1200 square foot cage and probably a few I missed. I remember asking the question "is there anything I will regret not getting later" and the answer was no, there is nothing else you could add. Cost of this hole in the ground and cage and living space was about 90K.

Again I would still add a pool to any home I have until I am to old and feeble to use it.

[Boomer]

3 pools close to our house. But if we were full time, I would have wanted a house with a pool.

[jeriteri]

Go with a pool! T&D will make it a great experience once they start it. Get in Line now.

[Goldwingnut]

We signed off on our new pool with T&D yesterday morning, it is finally "done" even though we've been enjoying it for nearly a month now.

Last night my wife and I took a late night dip in the and enjoyed the spa and a glass of wine before calling it a night. Something you can't do at the neighborhood pool.

It's just after 5:30 in the morning now, and I've had my morning swim and am enjoying a cup of coffee on the lanai while overlooking the pool. Very relaxing and enjoyable. The public pools are nice and very social but you can't beat the privacy and convenience of your own pool.

As this is our second home with a pool I have no illusions about the work or cost to maintain it, all the costs discussed above are real concerns not to be over looked. Is your own pool worth it, only you can answer that question. As for me the pleasures and benefits far out weight the costs.

[Yosemite]

I vote yes on the pool Wasn't looking for a house with a pool, but ended up with one, and I love it. Build in PRIVACY. Nothing better than coming home from any outdoor sport, stripping down and jumping into your own pool.

[patfla06]

We had a big pool, 18 x 36, built in hot tub & outdoor kitchen for 17 years in Tampa.

Enjoyed them during the kid years.

Wouldn't want any of that anymore.
Especially not at this age!

[wisbad1]

Definition of a pool - "a hole in the ground to pour your money into". Having owned one before (yes, in Arkansas we had in-ground pools), it's just my opinion.

There's just so many pools in TV that you can use to justify the cost of building and maintaining one. Again, just my opinion..........
put in a pool and love it! No more swimming in someones liquid waste,no more people with scabs and sores,best of all no more listening to women stabbing each other in the back! truly peaceful.

[Wiotte]

put in a pool and love it! No more swimming in someones liquid waste,no more people with scabs and sores,best of all no more listening to women stabbing each other in the back! truly peaceful.



Gross.

CDC warns about parasites, toxic gas at public pools (https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2017/05/19/health/cryptosporidium-chlorine-gas-pool-cdc/index.html)

[hulahips]

A definite Yes to a pool. Advantages. Hygeine, your pool always clean! Using anytime u want, day or night. No love bugs around your pool, piece and quiet to read, but again back to hygeine. No one will pee in your pool and u can't say Seniors don't leak urine, bladder problems, prostate problems, etc. Nothing beats ur own pool

[Millerw1946]

You tend to met more people without a pool.

[bilcon]

It is true that you lose some friendship opportunities by having your own pool, but we love it. Nice and clean, not expensive to operate. (we use T&D)and nice to jump in after a warm day at the course. You can also get your drinks and snacks in your own home and you don't have to worry about some people saving 10 to 12 chairs for guests at the Country Club pools. We never had a pool up north so this is a treat and we use it all year long. Go for it!

[neilbcox]

Wife and I are undecided about buying a Villages house with a pool. Can anyone let me know advantages, disadvantages, costs involved?
Thanks,
Guy

We put a pool in last year...so worth the money! BUT we hate our pool company...All Seasons! They lied to us many times and will not come back and fix warranty items! Buyer Beware!

[Topspinmo]

At least 90% of the lots here are too small for a pool. 5% can fit a tiny pool which leaves not much of a selection if you want a decent sized pool. Decent for me would be minimum 15 X 30. I liked the town pool when I was a kid, not so much now.


I liked our pool when I was kid, lived with my grandpa and down the road was old rock quarry. The limestone keep the water crystal clear and it was 28 foot off three sides. With about 60 to 90 foot bank on one side for diving. Get tire of swimming would go fishing. But, like trot in clear clean river you had to sneak up on them due to the clear water. IMO Beat the heck out of any cement pool.

[staceygolf]

I bought a Plug & Play Hot Tub from FL Pool & Spa. Absolutely love it. Low maintenance and economical. Perfect for relaxing in the evenings.

[bbbbbb]

Wife and I are undecided about buying a Villages house with a pool. Can anyone let me know advantages, disadvantages, costs involved?
Thanks,
Guy

Well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, have you looked at al the very nice large pools at the Rec Centers? Included in your Rec fees and taken care of, clean, well kept and at different times you can check it out, you can have it all to yourself with your wife or family.
Easy to do for sure., just a suggestion. And the ($$$$$)
savings.

bbbbbb :$:

[hillyridge]

Suggest you talk to friends with pools and get their opinion both pro and con. From the posts it is very much a personal opinion. I liken it to boating (a hole in the water to which you throw money) so be prepared for the costs...initial high cost of purchase, chemicals, maintenance, filters, pump energy cost, etc. There is also the issue of resale. I have been told a pool adds no value to your house and even limits potential buyers. But you also have the benefits...privacy while swimming, set temperature as you like it, can swim whenever you like, have pool parties, pool attire your choice. I have a pool and a boat and my wife and I love both. Although, we have friends that would not want either.

[Fredman]

This thread is getting to be like gas -vs- electric carts. Get the the pool, don’t get the pool everybody has a different opinion. So, get the d###n pool and live with your decision

[billethkid]

We use our pool right up to January......we have a gas heater with solar back up (or visa versa).....we keep the pool at 84.
We usually shut down the heating in Jan/Feb....to cold to be out with no clothes on.

We decided many years ago to not do the public body parts stew pots...pools!

[graciegirl]

We all swim laps every day except when the water temp drops below 82. We have solar panels but have never used the propane. Like Bille said. It is chilly at certain times.