Should The Villages be racially diverse?

[Don Baldwin]

Here's a reply from the Villages News web site that I know will be deleted...the reply was to someone wanting the villages 50:50: racially...

I couldn't resist:

"There are about 1% people of “color”…the Villages is close to 99% white. THAT is what makes the villages what it is. There are plenty of 99% white places that are wonderful places to live. There is NOT ONE 99% “colored” places that are as nice. Not half as nice. Not close to being nice. Disagree? Name one. Name a sizeable 150,000 people “colored” place like the villages…I’ll wait…

People of “color” have HAD those opportunities. They get affirmative action, they get lowered standards, they get quotas that directly discriminate against white men…WHY can’t they seem to prosper? I posit because they are in fact “not us”.

Name me ONE place on this entire planet that is racially 50:50 and like the villages. Find me one that’s prosperous. America is now 50:50…50% white and 50% everyone else. How has that been going for the nation? From #1 in just about everything to the present day…#25. Quite a drop. Demographics is my guess as to why. ALL the top countries are “white” countries. ALL the bottom countries are black countries. We are not the same.

Another black president? You didn’t learn your lesson with the first? He added $10 trillion to the debt…he added more than the 40 something presidents before him combined. He BOUGHT prosperity. There is not one successful, independent black run country.

ALL DO have opportunities. They have special programs to help them. IF they “pulled their weight”, they’d be hired. Employers want the best bang for their buck…blacks sadly are not it. The NBA and NFL is full of blacks because that is what they’re good at. We don’t arbitrarily discriminate, we want value, and they don’t bring any.

You want to stop the drug problem? Put the welfare/disability recipients to work. Idle hands you know… It’s true, people with nothing productive to do will “party” for something to do. MAKE the inner city blacks work and you cut the drug problem drastically. Have them clean up and keep their neighborhoods clean. Paint over graffiti every day, sweep the streets every morning. Half work, half watch the kids, in the afternoon, they switch. You collect your “pay” at the END of the day.

We’re trying to “mainstream” people I don’t think as a whole are capable of living in a modern technological society. The 99%, those who live in the inner cities, are not like us and I don’t think they’re capable. That is why in my opinion, nothing has really changed for blacks in the last 150 years. They still require outside “direction” because I believe they as a group lack self motivation.

Go ahead moderators…delete this because it’s not politically correct. Political correctness forces us to ignore real problems, real threats.

Liz, I couldn’t disagree with you more. There are NO 50% “Villages”. EVERY “Villages” equivalent is a vast majority white, almost exclusively. Demographics makes or breaks a community."



Anyone disagree? Why?

This is what I replied to:

"Don, if you are under the impression that there are no people of color or other races here that are successful and perhaps “affluent”, you could not be more wrong… yes, at this time the majority of those living here are white… but i believe and certainly hope in time as our country evolves, more non whites will TAKE advantage of a good education and use opportunities to make a good life for themselves, and NOT BE DEPENDENT ON THE GOVERNMENT AS THEIR DADDY…it’s not going to happen overnight, but i would hope by the time our grandchildren are living here, the numbers will be 50-50>>> and not BLIGHTED…the case of Dr. Ben Carson should be the rule, and not the exception…i’d like to think our MAGNIFICENT PRESIDENT DONALD J. TRUMP, if he was given a chance to truly lead our country to the greatness he speaks of, will be instrumental in this happening…he wants good schools for ALL… he wants opportunities for ALL… he wants to eradicate the dreadful drug problems that are robbing people of a decent, healthy life…
as i said, it is going to take time, but it is never going to happen if all the liberal lefties want to do is push the russia-russia-russia, crap down our throats…"

[Rockyrd]

What is strange about this post is the ignorance of what is right in front of them.

On the main board there was a thread about the behavior of some children of Villagers and a post said something like.....well, here is the quote...."Overall they are big negative for the villages, people read that other site, and that site is well established on facebook."
The other site is the news site.

But, do these folks not understand the impact of this political forum on visitors both in person and reading. I KNOW this forum (TOTV POLITICAL) is considered by many outside The Villages to be a extreme alt right site, with over tones of white supremecy. Much like the site where all the trouble is rooted in supporting Trump that we all read about in the news recently (using a meme posted there). The themes are pro Russian, anti American, anti anything but white, fake news, attacks on free press. All done WITH NO FACTS OR SUBSTANTIATION, and passed as political "discussion"

Why do you not understand that the extremist, alt right, white supremecy posts on here are a factor for folks who are investigating The Villages. I know it is.

[Taltarzac725]

What is strange about this post is the ignorance of what is right in front of them.

On the main board there was a thread about the behavior of some children of Villagers and a post said something like.....well, here is the quote...."Overall they are big negative for the villages, people read that other site, and that site is well established on facebook."
The other site is the news site.

But, do these folks not understand the impact of this political forum on visitors both in person and reading. I KNOW this forum (TOTV POLITICAL) is considered by many outside The Villages to be a extreme alt right site, with over tones of white supremecy. Much like the site where all the trouble is rooted in supporting Trump that we all read about in the news recently (using a meme posted there). The themes are pro Russian, anti American, anti anything but white, fake news, attacks on free press. All done WITH NO FACTS OR SUBSTANTIATION, and passed as political "discussion"

Why do you not understand that the extremist, alt right, white supremecy posts on here are a factor for folks who are investigating The Villages. I know it is.

Many people do read TOTV but very few people I have met here in the Villages since 2005 share these alt right opinions expressed by some of the posters on the Political Forum.

I have met African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American Villages' homeowners as well. No Muslims that I can recall but they may not want to announce that fact. And a number of lesbian couples who also own homes.

[Rockyrd]

Many people do read TOTV but very few people I have met here in the Villages since 2005 share these alt right opinions expressed by some of the posters on the Political Forum.

I have met African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American Villages' homeowners as well. No Muslims that I can recall but they may not want to announce that fact. And a number of lesbian couples who also own homes.

I am sure those radicals on the other sites, raided by the government, etc. do not PUBLICLY say what they post.

We live in an electronic age. It is used to spread that fake news that Trump always talks about (except most if not ALL of that comes from his blogs and sites like this with the same kind of followers)

People read here and the main board. I have no idea of how many of our typical trolls and haters from the alt right actually live here, but readers assume they do.

Point is...saying young people misbehaving is bad for The Villages and not mentioning this site is a bit short sighted.

"While some fake news is produced purposefully by teenagers in the Balkans or entrepreneurs in the United States seeking to make money from advertising, false information can also arise from misinformed social media posts by regular people that are seized on and spread through a hyperpartisan blogosphere."

How Fake News Goes Viral: A Case Study - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/20/business/media/how-fake-news-spreads.html)

When you read how it is spread, recall some of the posts on here and even some that were linked to zerohedge, a Russian site dedicated to spreading that kind of crap, then add the Alex Jones conspiracy theories that abound all over.

Why fake news spreads - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/why-fake-news-spreads-study-2017-6)

[Rockyrd]

This is from a few months ago and it is scary that amercans do not even realize how they are being duped daily.

Ever wonder why when challenged for examples of Fake news the supporters of Trump are totally silent ?

"When he testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee last week, former FBI agent Clint Watts described how Russians used armies of Twitter bots to spread fake news using accounts that seem to be Midwestern swing-voter Republicans.

"So that way whenever you're trying to socially engineer them and convince them that the information is true, it's much more simple because you see somebody and they look exactly like you, even down to the pictures," Watts told the panel, which is investigating Russia's role in interfering in the U.S. elections.

In an interview Monday with NPR's Kelly McEvers, Watts, a senior fellow at the Foreign Policy Research Institute, says the Russian misinformation campaign didn't stop with the election of President Trump.

If you went online today, you could see these accounts — either bots or actual personas somewhere — that are trying to connect with the administration. They might broadcast stories and then follow up with another tweet that tries to gain the president's attention, or they'll try and answer the tweets that the president puts out," Watts says.

Watts, a cybersecurity expert, says he's been tracking this sort of activity by the Russians for more than three years."

How Russian Twitter Bots Pumped Out Fake News During The 2016 Election : All Tech Considered : NPR (http://www.npr.org/sections/alltechconsidered/2017/04/03/522503844/how-russian-twitter-bots-pumped-out-fake-news-during-the-2016-election)

[Don Baldwin]

What is strange about this post is the ignorance of what is right in front of them.

On the main board there was a thread about the behavior of some children of Villagers and a post said something like.....well, here is the quote...."Overall they are big negative for the villages, people read that other site, and that site is well established on facebook."
The other site is the news site.

But, do these folks not understand the impact of this political forum on visitors both in person and reading. I KNOW this forum (TOTV POLITICAL) is considered by many outside The Villages to be a extreme alt right site, with over tones of white supremecy. Much like the site where all the trouble is rooted in supporting Trump that we all read about in the news recently (using a meme posted there). The themes are pro Russian, anti American, anti anything but white, fake news, attacks on free press. All done WITH NO FACTS OR SUBSTANTIATION, and passed as political "discussion"

Why do you not understand that the extremist, alt right, white supremecy posts on here are a factor for folks who are investigating The Villages. I know it is.

The ignorance right in front of me? I can SEE MLK Blvd as it is...dirty and dangerous. Why? 99% black. I can see a school fail as the number of blacks goes from just a few to over 50%. I can see the "dumbing down" of America first hand as the standards for graduation have gone to almost zero. I see the incompetence when I visit a business that employs a lot of blacks. What GOOD do you see? How am I "ignorant"?

The whole rest of your reply is a political rant.

You talk about "All done WITH NO FACTS OR SUBSTANTIATION" and yet that is what I did...I told you about MLK Blvd. YOU KNOW it's true...you won't go there at midnight on a Saturday night. You KNOW the black majority schools ALL suck. You KNOW there's NO "black villages". Why don't you admit it? They NEVER prosper and they ALWAYS end up ruining everywhere they gather. Admit...they're not us.

Many people do read TOTV but very few people I have met here in the Villages since 2005 share these alt right opinions expressed by some of the posters on the Political Forum.

I have met African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American Villages' homeowners as well. No Muslims that I can recall but they may not want to announce that fact. And a number of lesbian couples who also own homes.

So...you hang out with the outsiders...good for you Tal.

Got something meaningful to add?

I added the posting I replied to. She wants the villages like the nation...like Wildwood or Leesburg, diverse...50:50.

You agree? You think the "lifestyle" would remain if the villages was 25% black and 25% Hispanic?

You know Tal...by now the word MUST have gotten out to the blacks about the "racist" at TOTV...WHERE are the black people refuting me? Where are they with all the evidence of black equality? They're not here because they have nothing to logically explain away WHY they can't even keep their neighborhood CLEAN. Half are unemployed and collecting welfare...instead of getting drunk at 8am...go out and clean up.

[Rockyrd]

The ignorance right in front of me? I can SEE MLK Blvd as it is...dirty and dangerous. Why? 99% black. I can see a school fail as the number of blacks goes from just a few to over 50%. I can see the "dumbing down" of America first hand as the standards for graduation have gone to almost zero. I see the incompetence when I visit a business that employs a lot of blacks. What GOOD do you see? How am I "ignorant"?

The whole rest of your reply is a political rant.

You talk about "All done WITH NO FACTS OR SUBSTANTIATION" and yet that is what I did...I told you about MLK Blvd. YOU KNOW it's true...you won't go there at midnight on a Saturday night. You KNOW the black majority schools ALL suck. You KNOW there's NO "black villages". Why don't you admit it? They NEVER prosper and they ALWAYS end up ruining everywhere they gather. Admit...they're not us.



So...you hang out with the outsiders...good for you Tal.

Got something meaningful to add?

I added the posting I replied to. She wants the villages like the nation...like Wildwood or Leesburg, diverse...50:50.

You agree? You think the "lifestyle" would remain if the villages was 25% black and 25% Hispanic?

You know Tal...by now the word MUST have gotten out to the blacks about the "racist" at TOTV...WHERE are the black people refuting me? Where are they with all the evidence of black equality? They're not here because they have nothing to logically explain away WHY they can't even keep their neighborhood CLEAN. Half are unemployed and collecting welfare...instead of getting drunk at 8am...go out and clean up.

Honest answer please...

Do you live IN The Villages ?

[rubicon]

Should The Villages be racially diverse? No I believe that the only people who should be allowed here are native americans? No wait that is not right. I believe that the only people allowed to live here are Anglo-Saxons. No, wait that is not right either. I believe the only people who should be allowed to live in TV are Europeans. No that's not right either. I believe this is a civilized nation that has been called the great melting pot and for its entire existence it has struggle to live by it laws that say all men are equal.

Personal Best Regards:

[rjm1cc]

No problem. Anyone who wants to move to the Villages and follow the rules should be welcomed. Should not discriminate against some people just because they are over represented in the villages.

[Taltarzac725]

Should The Villages be racially diverse? No I believe that the only people who should be allowed here are native americans? No wait that is not right. I believe that the only people allowed to live here are Anglo-Saxons. No, wait that is not right either. I believe the only people who should be allowed to live in TV are Europeans. No that's not right either. I believe this is a civilized nation that has been called the great melting pot and for its entire existence it has struggle to live by it laws that say all men are equal.

Personal Best Regards:

Nicely put.

[Chi-Town]

Why feed a Donny B thread?

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[Don Baldwin]

They deleted my reply...typical...CAN'T have the truth known.

[fourandrew]

So The Villages is 99% white---every day in the paper some white idiot is driving drunk, crashing into someone, stealing from stores to support their drug habit--shooting at the neighbor's house because he has a crush on her, fighting over chairs at the squares---need I say more--your rant about African Americans 'ruining' The Villages is stupid---

[Don Baldwin]

So The Villages is 99% white---every day in the paper some white idiot is driving drunk, crashing into someone, stealing from stores to support their drug habit--shooting at the neighbor's house because he has a crush on her, fighting over chairs at the squares---need I say more--your rant about African Americans 'ruining' The Villages is stupid---

And what would the news be if the villages was 99% black? What is the news like when there is a city of 150,000 blacks? It's MUCH worse than what we have here. You'd have KILLINGS EVERY DAY...you'd have ARMED ROBBERY EVERY DAY.

Things are MUCH MUCH worse in 99% minority areas than 99% white places.

When you find ANYWHERE that is as large as the villages, 99% black and as nice and safe as here...you let me know...until you do...you're just lying to us Andrew.

[larbud]

Should The Villages be racially diverse? No I believe that the only people who should be allowed here are native americans? No wait that is not right. I believe that the only people allowed to live here are Anglo-Saxons. No, wait that is not right either. I believe the only people who should be allowed to live in TV are Europeans. No that's not right either. "I believe this is a civilized nation that has been called the great melting pot and for its entire existence it has struggle to live by it laws that say all men are equal."

Personal Best Regards:

Not equal, CREATED equal! Big fng difference....

[Taltarzac725]

And what would the news be if the villages was 99% black? What is the news like when there is a city of 150,000 blacks? It's MUCH worse than what we have here. You'd have KILLINGS EVERY DAY...you'd have ARMED ROBBERY EVERY DAY.

Things are MUCH MUCH worse in 99% minority areas than 99% white places.

When you find ANYWHERE that is as large as the villages, 99% black and as nice and safe as here...you let me know...until you do...you're just lying to us Andrew.

Your premise is all wrong with this. African-Americans still live in a world with a huge amount of prejudice which has grown a great deal worse because of the alt-right's adoption of Trump as a mascot even if he does not seem to share many of those racist beliefs.

[larbud]

your premise is all wrong with this. African-americans still live in a world with a huge amount of prejudice which has grown a great deal worse because of the alt-right's adoption of trump as a mascot even if he does not seem to share many of those racist beliefs.

bullsh!t...

[Don Baldwin]

Not equal, CREATED equal! Big fng difference....

ALL MEN...human men...not males of a different species. All men may be created equal and all dogs may be created equal...but men and dogs are NOT equal. Blacks and ALL the other races...aren't created equal...we're different species.

Your premise is all wrong with this. African-Americans still live in a world with a huge amount of prejudice which has grown a great deal worse because of the alt-right's adoption of Trump as a mascot even if he does not seem to share many of those racist beliefs.

No...your premise is wrong.

Africans...negros...blacks...were found by advanced Europeans. These Africans had NO wheel, written language, domesticated draft animals, real architecture, agriculture, etc. They were "stone age cavemen". They were 50,000 years of evolution behind whites.

They have not improved. They just haven't. Not in Africa, not in ANY country. They just don't thrive anywhere. They've been HELPED ALL along the way! Nobody else gets the help that blacks get. Half of them get government assistance. They get affirmative action. They get quotas. They have all kinds of organizations to help them.

They don't thrive because they CAN'T do anything productive other than limited sports where strength and aggressiveness are key. WHEN blacks are good at something...we take VERY good care of them...when they suck...we don't want them. It's THEM, their actions, their inabilities that keep them from being hired. Nobody wants them around...because nobody wants them around...because they ACT differently...because we KNOW that they are not us.

You are treating another species as an equal. That is why YOUR premise is wrong. And it's destroying America.

[MDLNB]

Your premise is all wrong with this. African-Americans still live in a world with a huge amount of prejudice which has grown a great deal worse because of the alt-right's adoption of Trump as a mascot even if he does not seem to share many of those racist beliefs.

The increase in racial bias is due to the last 8 years of radical, racist Obama. Trump had NOTHING to do with it. Trump is a RESULT of it, partially.

[graciegirl]

Many people do read TOTV but very few people I have met here in the Villages since 2005 share these alt right opinions expressed by some of the posters on the Political Forum.

I have met African-American, Asian-American, Hispanic-American Villages' homeowners as well. No Muslims that I can recall but they may not want to announce that fact. And a number of lesbian couples who also own homes.

You are right.

[fourandrew]

The increase in racial bias is due to the last 8 years of radical, racist Obama. Trump had NOTHING to do with it. Trump is a RESULT of it, partially.

please state the facts of Obama being racist!!:mademyday:

[Don Baldwin]

please state the facts of Obama being racist!!:mademyday:

Guess you don't read much...you should read his Mein Kampf...his books...before you make such a reply.

He pretty much thinks of white people what Hitler thought of the Jews.

[graciegirl]

Guess you don't read much...you should read his Mein Kampf...his books...before you make such a reply.

He pretty much thinks of white people what Hitler thought of the Jews.

No. Not that extreme, but he does see the world through the perspective of a bi-racial person and he lost me when he said a hood type kid could be his son. He was never raised in a slum, ever. He was raised with white privilege. I feel a sub liminal anger against white people and it makes me angry. If the white way to do things is the best, do it that way, but don't call things accepted as white. No one has a damn thing they can do about their race but lots they can do about finding success and happiness. We can all blame a lot of things for failure. This is me who has never been black. It is hard not to generalize. All people do it. The cast at Hamilton did it when they were rude to Pence.

[Taltarzac725]

No. Not that extreme, but he does see the world through the perspective of a bi-racial person and he lost me when he said a hood type kid could be his son. He was never raised in a slum, ever. He was raised with white privilege. I feel a sub liminal anger against white people and it makes me angry. If the white way to do things is the best, do it that way, but don't call things accepted as white. No one has a damn thing they can do about their race but lots they can do about finding success and happiness. We can all blame a lot of things for failure. This is me who has never been black. It is hard not to generalize. All people do it. The cast at Hamilton did it when they were rude to Pence.

I hope you will continue posting. You sound reasonable. We need a whole lot more of that on the TOTV Political Forum.

[Don Baldwin]

No. Not that extreme, but he does see the world through the perspective of a bi-racial person and he lost me when he said a hood type kid could be his son. He was never raised in a slum, ever. He was raised with white privilege. I feel a sub liminal anger against white people and it makes me angry. If the white way to do things is the best, do it that way, but don't call things accepted as white. No one has a damn thing they can do about their race but lots they can do about finding success and happiness. We can all blame a lot of things for failure. This is me who has never been black. It is hard not to generalize. All people do it. The cast at Hamilton did it when they were rude to Pence.

No...not really...RACE is a huge determiner in your abilities...and abilities are a huge determiner in finding success. Blacks find success in the NFL and NBA...whites in pretty much everything else.

I didn't make them different... I just tell you...show you...that they are.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

What I'd like to know is what exactly is meant by 50/50?

Since there are so many different races and cultures in the US, which ones are being left out of this equation?

[ColdNoMore]

No. Not that extreme, but he does see the world through the perspective of a bi-racial person and he lost me when he said a hood type kid could be his son. He was never raised in a slum, ever. He was raised with white privilege. I feel a sub liminal anger against white people and it makes me angry. If the white way to do things is the best, do it that way, but don't call things accepted as white. No one has a damn thing they can do about their race but lots they can do about finding success and happiness. We can all blame a lot of things for failure. This is me who has never been black. It is hard not to generalize. All people do it. The cast at Hamilton did it when they were rude to Pence.

You truly are ignorant and clueless. :oops:

Obama said... “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” and "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago."

Which is exactly correct, given that Trayvon was NOT killed (nor lived)... in some 'hood.'

So while you try and disguise your closet racism with your typical and pathetic platitudes, your support of Chump and ignorant comments like this...prove otherwise. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Don Baldwin]

What I'd like to know is what exactly is meant by 50/50?

Since there are so many different races and cultures in the US, which ones are being left out of this equation?

49% of the US population is white. The other 51% are ALL the other races combined. There is no "absolute" majority any more. That will change in 30 years when Hispanics have grown in numbers and become the absolute majority with 51% of the population. They're already the majority below age 7.

You truly are ignorant and clueless. :oops:

Obama said... “If I had a son, he’d look like Trayvon,” and "Trayvon Martin could have been me 35 years ago."

Which is exactly correct, given that Trayvon was NOT killed (nor lived)... in some 'hood.'

So while you try and disguise your closet racism with your typical and pathetic platitudes, your support of Chump and ignorant comments like this...prove otherwise. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Actually..he DID live in some "hood". Miami Gardens is demographically Americas future...in about 30 years ALL of America will look like Miami Gardens.

Crime Index
9 (100 is safest)

Safer than 9% of U.S. Cities
Miami Gardens Annual Crimes
Violent Property Total Number of Crimes

713 4,184 4,897

http://pics.city-data.com/craces2/3858.jpg

43.3%Hispanic
26.9%White alone
24.4%Black alone
2.1%Asian alone

"City property crime rate was 66.98% higher than the national property crime rate. In 2010 Miami Garden's city violent crime rate was higher than the violent crime rate in Florida by 77.64% and the city property crime rate was 38.05% higher."

Miami Gardens, Florida - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=Miami+Gardens%2C+Florida&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=miami+gardens+florida+crime+rate)

So...once again...you're full of sh!t...just making sh!t up like it's real...it's NOT real. That's the part you don't get...EVERYTHING you hear about black equality...isn't real. If it is...show me. Show me where they're equal.

The 99% of blacks live in dirty and dangerous "black places"...inner cities, "diverse" neighborhoods, etc. Places WE DON'T GO.

[Paper1]

I don't know about racial diversity but The Villages is certainly intellectually diverse as is evident by the posts in this forum. IMO

[Allegiance]

49% of the US population is white. The other 51% are ALL the other races combined. There is no "absolute" majority any more. That will change in 30 years when Hispanics have grown in numbers and become the absolute majority with 51% of the population. They're already the majority below age 7.



Actually..he DID live in some "hood". Miami Gardens is demographically Americas future...in about 30 years ALL of America will look like Miami Gardens.

Crime Index
9 (100 is safest)

Safer than 9% of U.S. Cities
Miami Gardens Annual Crimes
Violent Property Total Number of Crimes

713 4,184 4,897

http://pics.city-data.com/craces2/3858.jpg

43.3%Hispanic
26.9%White alone
24.4%Black alone
2.1%Asian alone

"City property crime rate was 66.98% higher than the national property crime rate. In 2010 Miami Garden's city violent crime rate was higher than the violent crime rate in Florida by 77.64% and the city property crime rate was 38.05% higher."

Miami Gardens, Florida - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?q=Miami+Gardens%2C+Florida&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8#q=miami+gardens+florida+crime+rate)

So...once again...you're full of sh!t...just making sh!t up like it's real...it's NOT real. That's the part you don't get...EVERYTHING you hear about black equality...isn't real. If it is...show me. Show me where they're equal.

The 99% of blacks live in dirty and dangerous "black places"...inner cities, "diverse" neighborhoods, etc. Places WE DON'T GO.Stop confusing these lightweights with facts.

[Sandtrap328]

Stop confusing these lightweights with facts.

Just quit trying to stir the pot with your FAKE agreements with Donnie.

It is not funny and you should be ashamed. Would YOU like to explain to Don Baldwin why YOU should be ashamed? :popcorn:

[Allegiance]

Just quit trying to stir the pot with your FAKE agreements with Donnie.

It is not funny and you should be ashamed. Would YOU like to explain to Don Baldwin why YOU should be ashamed? :popcorn:Please do, you have my full permission. Thanks for your concern.

[Don Baldwin]

Just quit trying to stir the pot with your FAKE agreements with Donnie.

It is not funny and you should be ashamed. Would YOU like to explain to Don Baldwin why YOU should be ashamed? :popcorn:

Why should people be ASHAMED to tell the truth? In what world is lying the best solution? Blacks are NOT equal to ANY of the other races...the proof is ALL around...and we're supposed to be ashamed for saying it?