View Full Version : The realities of golf cart Speeding
Allegiance
07-23-2017, 05:34 PM
I assume you can get in trouble for going 20.1, but what is the lowest speed anyone has ever been pulled over for? 21, 22, 23??
Or What has anyone been told by LE?
Nucky
07-23-2017, 05:43 PM
You're in a heap of trouble boy! Sum Bitch! I get this vision of Buford T. Justice with a radar gun every time this subject comes up. Lowest ticket I know of was 16 MPH in a 10 MPH zone near La Hacienda Pool & Rec Center on Mother's Day Morning to a refined Grandmother Type, you know white hair and happy disposition. What a terrible infraction. Yeah I know the law is the law. Sum Bitch. Imagine that Hot Pursuit.
DonH57
07-23-2017, 05:48 PM
I assume you can get in trouble for going 20.1, but what is the lowest speed anyone has ever been pulled over for? 21, 22, 23??
Or What has anyone been told by LE?
21 or 22 , What ever it takes! LOL
autumnspring
07-23-2017, 07:02 PM
I assume you can get in trouble for going 20.1, but what is the lowest speed anyone has ever been pulled over for? 21, 22, 23??
Or What has anyone been told by LE?
One of the far too many posts on this subject showed that there is a golf cart safety presentation at the Savannah center every third weds of each month. I would of course confirm this before going but that would be the place to get the RIGHT answers.
DonH57
07-23-2017, 09:34 PM
In the 4 and the half years we've lived in the villages on the off chance there was a LEO running radar on Morse never been pulled over for running 20.5, 21.5, 22.5. In our golf cart. Not saying it could not happen tomorrow but golf cart speeding discussion is only one of many over blown subjects on TO TV like little white crosses, restaurant gripes, dog poop.
rubicon
07-24-2017, 04:15 AM
The realities of golf cart speeding. Of all the critical issues that residents have to deal with on a daily basis a continual focus on this subject seems that some folks are just well bored.
Laws and rules speak to safety issues and order. I understand and concur. However not all rules and laws are reasonable or reasonably applied in all situations. The reality of golf cart speeding is that the subject matter is overblown and overly discussed.
It would appear that if golf cart safety is the issue perhaps a discussion of the golf cart driver's fitness mental/physical ought to be the prime concern ..again DISTRACTIONS ARE THE LEADING CAUSE FOR VEHICULAR ACCIDENTS
Allegiance
07-24-2017, 05:41 AM
Just trying to get real life facts on what speed, over 20, actually led to being pulled over.
graciegirl
07-24-2017, 06:04 AM
Just trying to get real life facts on what speed, over 20, actually led to being pulled over.
We all know the answer is rarely.
BUT over the past decade, I have lost track but it is upwards of 15 people have been killed here in The Villages due to Golf cart accidents. Many, many more have been badly injured.
I think there is a number of reasons for any motor vehicle accidents and being distracted is one. Drinking and driving is another. Age can be sited, but so can the fact that many people are driving golf carts with really poor driving skills. Some people have moved here and rarely drove a car in their past life.. Some people think they are above observing stop signs and some drive carelessly and selfishly.
I personally may harm a golf cart driver if I see another kid throw their drink cup out. Oh Lord, I sound old.
tophcfa
07-24-2017, 09:25 AM
Our experience is that people driving golf carts while using cell phones and people driving too slow are both more dangerous than speeding. Most golf carts, ours included, are governed to not go over 20 MPH. If people could just put down their phones and drive the speed limit!
John_W
07-24-2017, 12:22 PM
From 2011 to 2016 I had my Yamaha set up to run up to 25mph and I had a speedometer. Only twice in all that time I saw the police with a radar gun looking for golf carts. That was at least 2 years ago, they were parked in the driveway of the pump house on Cane Garden by the green to the second hole on Alamanda. They could hide somewhat behind vegetation and shoot their radar down Baileys Trail.
I found out that a Yamaha runs smoothest at 22mph, but I decided it wasn't worth all the risk for such a small reward. In 2016 I set my cart back to 19 mph and I really can't tell all that much difference in getting to the courses. While playing golf on the course, I would never need to really go over 20 mph. So for everyone who speeds, save yourself the aggravation and dial it back.
So if you see this guy, he's only going 20mph.
http://i90.photobucket.com/albums/k241/9234gypsy/69ecaaed-a7e3-4ff5-9b94-b30ef0512722_zps37ywfjsc.jpg
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-24-2017, 12:32 PM
Just trying to get real life facts on what speed, over 20, actually led to being pulled over.
LE and the safety presentation will tell you that you can be pulled over for anything over 20, but the reality is that 99% of the time they're not going to bother you if you're going under 5mph or less over the limit. The reason for this is that the law stipulates that a golf cart is not supposed to be capable of going over 20 mph, but that doesn't take into consideration downhill. If they ticket you for going 22 and you can show that you were going downhill, the case will most likely be thrown out.
Also, and I get this from my father who spent 25 years in law enforcement. If a cop takes you to court for going a few miles an hour over the judge will often scold the officer for wasting his time. There is also something in the law about going over the limit for a certain distance. In other words, if you're going 20 and you suddenly get up to 23 for 50 yards, you're not going to get stopped.
Generally, if a cop sees that you're making an effort to slow down he's not going to bother you unless you're acting like an idiot. By that, I mean excessive changing lanes, tailgating, and other such unsafe practices. If you're zipping in and out of lanes and you're only going 5mph over, there's a good likelihood that you'll get pulled over and charged with more than speeding.
Aloha1
07-24-2017, 03:40 PM
It would be interesting to know how many Auto tragic accidents have occurred in the last few years at the Villages versus Golf Carts. One can surmise that those who speed while driving a car will also speed while in their cart. All deaths are terrible but I'm curious if there have been more while driving a golf cart as opposed to driving a car here.
Stdole
07-24-2017, 07:54 PM
At times I do not agree with Gracie... but in this post, she is right on point. I have recently purchased a GEM Cart. Has regular road use plates... must be insured with your
standard Automobiles.. Max speed 25 mph. Used throughout The Villages.. No problem law enforcement if normal road rules followed. I must say many Villagers are
in a very much of a hurry on the regular traveled golf cart paved areas.. You have heard this before. Nothing will help you. Many must pee on the electric fence themselves
don't take anyones word for it!
justjim
07-24-2017, 09:42 PM
Most fatalities in TV from my memory of the last 10 years have been car/cart accidents and the fatality was in the golf cart. I believe distraction and medical emergency contributes more to golf cart accidents than does speed. Just my opinion.
DonH57
07-24-2017, 11:05 PM
Most fatalities in TV from my memory of the last 10 years have been car/cart accidents and the fatality was in the golf cart. I believe distraction and medical emergency contributes more to golf cart accidents than does speed. Just my opinion.
I believe you are right. Some of the unfortunate deaths were due from possible medical situation suffered by a golf cart or auto mobile operator or late night poor visual conditions.
rubicon
07-25-2017, 05:00 AM
Just trying to get real life facts on what speed, over 20, actually led to being pulled over.
I understood the purpose of the post. I suppose one would have to secure county statistics to answer your question. It certainly cannot be gleaned from a thread such as this
This thread continues to repeat itself and it leaves the impression that it is the wild west out there on our MMP's and it is not. Again DISTRACTION is the leading cause of vehicular accidents. In part look at the mental/physical condition of drivers and their ability to react. Kids using carts enters the equation. In part the complaints are coming from people who believe that they are being passed by a cart that is going too fast. Ever notice the look on a golf cart drivers face as you pass his 12-15 mph pace, which you can do easily at 17-18 mph.
How many times have you witness a golf cart driver that stops directly on the cart path to make/take a phone or call, etc. How many times have you noticed a golf cart driver who has no idea where s/he is going or how to get there?
I also contend that the traffic (pedestrian bikes other carts) and lest not let us forget the number of stops we are forced to make along the way that is such resulting in an average speed on a MMP not much over 17 mph
So now we come to diamond lanes which in most situations are on roads with a speed limit of 35mph. If speed is the issue is speed really an issue in a diamond lane? I think not.
The Villages to my chagrin is growing by leaps and bounds and I am one that would have preferred managed growth...but here we are.
SO THE REALITY OF SPEEDING GOLF CARTS IS THAT AS THE VILLAGES CONTINUES ITS RAPID GROWTH AND IF A RESIDENT'S DESIRES TO ENJOY AS MUCH OF THE VILLAGES AS S/HE CAN THEN TIME IS OF ESSENCE AND NECESSITY IS THE MOTHER OF INVENTION.
Personal Best Regards:
golfing eagles
07-25-2017, 05:13 AM
Most fatalities in TV from my memory of the last 10 years have been car/cart accidents and the fatality was in the golf cart. I believe distraction and medical emergency contributes more to golf cart accidents than does speed. Just my opinion.
I tend to agree. If you can't handle a golf cart at 22, then you can't handle it at 20
Dr Winston O Boogie jr
07-25-2017, 06:15 AM
I tend to agree. If you can't handle a golf cart at 22, then you can't handle it at 20
I agree. While 22 is technically a violation of the law, it is no more dangerous than 20.
As for the number of fatalities, a question more pertinent to this discussion would be how many fatalities are the result of golf carts going over 20mph.
I know of one man that was killed when he drove his cart into the front of a moving mini van on Morse Blvd. That had nothing to do with speed.
Of course, if there is an accident involving a car and a golf cart the person in the cart is more likely to get the worse of it. But that has less to do with speed than the fact that golf carts are small and lighter. The same can be said for accidents involving a car and a bicycle or motorcycle or a pedestrian for that matter.
That being the case should we ban golf carts, and bicycles?
When I look a the amount of golf cart traffic and automobile traffic in TV, I am surprised that there are not more accidents and fatalities. I think that for the most part, we are pretty safe and that excessive speed of 21-25 mph plays little part in accidents.
Mikeod
07-25-2017, 11:27 AM
To the OP's question, I had a cart that the dealer replaced a defective motor with a better one. I was driving back from Glenbrook on Oak Forest when a deputy stepped out from a side street and motioned me to stop. He asked if I had a cart or an LSV. I told him it was a cart and he told me he had me at 24 mph. I explained about the motor replacement and suggested they hadn't set the controller yet for the new motor. He let me go with a warning and told me to get the cart calibrated for the new motor. So, I know you can get pulled over for 24.
Allegiance
07-25-2017, 11:29 AM
To the OP's question, I had a cart that the dealer replaced a defective motor with a better one. I was driving back from Glenbrook on Oak Forest when a deputy stepped out from a side street and motioned me to stop. He asked if I had a cart or an LSV. I told him it was a cart and he told me he had me at 24 mph. I explained about the motor replacement and suggested they hadn't set the controller yet for the new motor. He let me go with a warning and told me to get the cart calibrated for the new motor. So, I know you can get pulled over for 24.Thank you!
coffeebean
07-26-2017, 02:54 PM
To the OP's question, I had a cart that the dealer replaced a defective motor with a better one. I was driving back from Glenbrook on Oak Forest when a deputy stepped out from a side street and motioned me to stop. He asked if I had a cart or an LSV. I told him it was a cart and he told me he had me at 24 mph. I explained about the motor replacement and suggested they hadn't set the controller yet for the new motor. He let me go with a warning and told me to get the cart calibrated for the new motor. So, I know you can get pulled over for 24.
Mideod......Do you have a gas cart or an electric cart?
jsw14
07-26-2017, 03:35 PM
I have a Gas Yamaha golf cart. Mine will go 26mph... OOp's, maybe I shouldn't revile that in this post. The Cop's just may track me down here on TOTV :ohdear: AnyHoo, I only use the speed to pass the left-over Sunday drivers on Monday mornin......:popcorn:
Gerald
07-26-2017, 04:19 PM
I set my cart not to exceed 50 mph.
golfing eagles
07-26-2017, 04:34 PM
I set my cart not to exceed 50 mph.
Ahhhh. The same speed that some drivers on I-75 set their cars to. :1rotfl::1rotfl::1rotfl:
They're easy to find---they're in the far left lane
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