55 and under getting in trouble

[BlackSheep]

Hi all, we were buying a house here and we have been hearing lots of bad things about people under 55 living there and being nothing but trouble, is this true and I thought TV were for only 55 and over??

Thanks :)

[dbussone]

It's less of an issue here than in most communities our size and larger


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[Jake_]

20% of the population has to be allowed to be under 55. The amount of trouble being caused by those who are under 55 are seemingly blown out of proportion. 55 and older crowd get arrested for dui drugs and theft just as often. With a population somewhere near 160k problems are bound to happen.

Dont worry about what you hear,come experience the villages for yourself and I think youll like it. =]

24 year old villager

[Toymeister]

From what I have read 8% of T V is under 55. Bad news travels fast as well as news people want to hear. No one wants to hear residents over 55 cause any problems.

[Polar Bear]

Almost all oif the trouble here (which isn't that much) is caused by the 55+ crowd. :)

[dbussone]

Hi all, we were buying a house here and we have been hearing lots of bad things about people under 55 living there and being nothing but trouble, is this true and I thought TV were for only 55 and over??



Thanks :)



Over 55 communities do not require that all residents be over 55. If I am correct, the Feds only require that 80% be over 55. If I am wrong I will be corrected relatively quickly.


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[Carl in Tampa]

Hi all, we were buying a house here and we have been hearing lots of bad things about people under 55 living there and being nothing but trouble, is this true and I thought TV were for only 55 and over??

Thanks :)

I'd be willing to bet that the under 55 (maximum 20 % of the
population) crowd in The Villages is a lot less trouble than the age 15 - 19 crowd in Tampa (15 % of the population) where I spend most of my time now.

I loved The Villages when I lived there full time. Only my physical condition keeps me in Tampa.

When I lived there I seldom encountered "under 55" people other than when I went to the Town Squares in the evening to enjoy the free entertainment. At such times there were a lot of them hanging out in the bars, and visiting from the surrounding areas outside The Villages. Even then, I didn't have problems with them. A lot of the "problems" seem to be occurring long after I've gone home.

[BlackSheep]

Thank you all! and thanks to the 24 year old villager! lol

[Rapscallion St Croix]

The math is actually that 80% of the households must have one resident 55 or older. If The Villages were to fall outside that parameter it would lose its status as an age restricted community .

[Taltarzac725]

I'd be willing to bet that the under 55 (maximum 20 % of the
population) crowd in The Villages is a lot less trouble than the age 15 - 19 crowd in Tampa (15 % of the population) where I spend most of my time now.

I loved The Villages when I lived there full time. Only my physical condition keeps me in Tampa.

When I lived there I seldom encountered "under 55" people other than when I went to the Town Squares in the evening to enjoy the free entertainment. At such times there were a lot of them hanging out in the bars, and visiting from the surrounding areas outside The Villages. Even then, I didn't have problems with them. A lot of the "problems" seem to be occurring long after I've gone home.

Thanks for pitching in Carl from Tampa. Always nice to hear your input.

I have met a lot of under 55 year olds over the last 12 years living here in the Villages. These live here in the Villages with their parents, boyfriends or girlfriends, etc. Only a tiny number of these had legal problems of any kind and these were usually alcohol abuse related if they did. AA groups are quite active in the Villages area helping people as are associations which help people dealing with alcoholic addiction.

[fred53]

And we heard that STD's were rampant here before we moved. The fact is that the folks who are respectful, considerate and great neighbors don't make the news. So if you have a population of over 100k there are bound to be bad apples. The good ones far outweigh the bad ones. Since we are a 55+ community any turds are easily recognized and if you call the police are easily dealt with. The key is to let those who handle these things know and not try to ignore it. No one wants to be known as a "complainer", but that is the only way to keep our lovely community lovely.

[dewilson58]

Almost all oif the trouble here (which isn't that much) is caused by the 55+ crowd. :)

Actually, MOST of the trouble is caused by the 95 and under crowd.

It's just terrible.

[graciegirl]

Actually, MOST of the trouble is caused by the 95 and under crowd.

It's just terrible.

It is embarrassing. Plus all that damn exercising. It get's on my nerves....and lots of them GO to CHURCH.

I think it is the smiling and holding hands that really makes me want to bite. What is THAT all about.chilout

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

We are a community of close to 150,000 residents. That's the size of many small cities up north. And like those cities, we have some crime. But the crime rate here is close to the lowest in the US. The Villages is one of the safest communities in the world.

As far as the under 55 group causing all the trouble, all one has to do is look at the online news and you'll see that people over the age of 55 cause as many problems as the younger folks.

I think that some of us may have the impression that all of the trouble here in The Villages is caused by those under 55 and renters is caused by the number of people that post something every time someone in these categories is caught breaking the law. Like I say. if you look, you'll find that there are just as many older people causing what very little trouble we have.

[sail33or]

Well, I guess I will be one to describe the situation.

Many of the "under" age people that are being arrested, etc. are the unemployed, totally dependent, etc. children of 55 and older residents. (Living with mommy and daddy.)(Or these older children are just living in their parents property.)

We do not have to get into percentages because you can use them anyway you want.

The Villages is great but just like everywhere there are rotten apples and rotten situations.

It is very easy to meet your street neighbors before buying to prevent living next door to problems.

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Well, I guess I will be one to describe the situation.

Many of the "under" age people that are being arrested, etc. are the unemployed, totally dependent, etc. children of 55 and older residents. (Living with mommy and daddy.)(Or these older children are just living in their parents property.)

We do not have to get into percentages because you can use them anyway you want.

The Villages is great but just like everywhere there are rotten apples and rotten situations.

It is very easy to meet your street neighbors before buying to prevent living next door to problems.

Many of the "under" age people that are being arrested, etc. are the unemployed, totally dependent, etc. children of 55 and older residents. (Living with mommy and daddy.)(Or these older children are just living in their parents property.)

And how exactly do you know this? You go on to say that you won't bother with percentages. I doubt that there are any statistics kept so I doubt that anyone can come up with actual percentages.

But this is exactly what I was talking about in my last post. People post things like this with no facts to back them up.

Like I say, from looking a the online news daily, I get the impression that people over 55 cause as much trouble as younger people. Another thing that I notice is that many of the younger people who do get in trouble are not Villages residents, but live in surrounding communities such as Lady Lake, Summerfield and Wildwood.

I honestly believe that is a myth that we have a huge problem with young people running amok and causing all kinds of problems.

[crash]

Over 55 communities do not require that all residents be over 55. If I am correct, the Feds only require that 80% be over 55. If I am wrong I will be corrected relatively quickly.


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The over 55 is just to purchase a home you only have to be over 19 to live here.

The number of issues here in the Villages are less than other areas our size, but when there is one it seems to get blown out of proportion.

[Taltarzac725]

And how exactly do you know this? You go on to say that you won't bother with percentages. I doubt that there are any statistics kept so I doubt that anyone can come up with actual percentages.

But this is exactly what I was talking about in my last post. People post things like this with no facts to back them up.

Like I say, from looking a the online news daily, I get the impression that people over 55 cause as much trouble as younger people. Another thing that I notice is that many of the younger people who do get in trouble are not Villages residents, but live in surrounding communities such as Lady Lake, Summerfield and Wildwood.

I honestly believe that is a myth that we have a huge problem with young people running amok and causing all kinds of problems.

I tend to agree with you Dr. Winston. People are people and you get good ones and bad ones at every age. And there are many Villagers with various kinds of mental impairment who need the help of family members such as adult kids. If they are available that is.

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[Allegiance]

And how exactly do you know this? You go on to say that you won't bother with percentages. I doubt that there are any statistics kept so I doubt that anyone can come up with actual percentages.

But this is exactly what I was talking about in my last post. People post things like this with no facts to back them up.

Like I say, from looking a the online news daily, I get the impression that people over 55 cause as much trouble as younger people. Another thing that I notice is that many of the younger people who do get in trouble are not Villages residents, but live in surrounding communities such as Lady Lake, Summerfield and Wildwood.

I honestly believe that is a myth that we have a huge problem with young people running amok and causing all kinds of problems."Like I say, from looking a the online news daily, I get the impression that people over 55 cause as much trouble as younger people."

Exactly...
When you actually look carefully, the younger Village residents commit far more crime proportionally.

[manaboutown]

The problem lies not with the responsible under 55s who are residing in TV to assist their parents - God bless them; it lies with the substance abusers, felons and other losers who are unable to live on their own and return to the nest to live off mommy and daddy who take them in, usually again and again. These whippersnappers commit crimes disproportionate to their numbers.

[Chi33]

its not under 55s who own homes who cause trouble. First, if there is a retired person who is under 55, they have put in a lot of effort to get there. IMHO. its the 75 and overs who bring their children who are under 55 or the Leesburg trailer residents (nothing against Leesburg). If you think about it, those under 55 who bought a home here to retire are to a high %age Police or Military and that is good for the safety of the 'older' folks.

[VillagerNut]

The over 55 is just to purchase a home you only have to be over 19 to live here.

The number of issues here in the Villages are less than other areas our size, but when there is one it seems to get blown out of proportion.

Your comments about the over 55 is just to purchase a home here is totally incorrect. You only have to be 19 or older to purchase a home here or to live here. The way they keep a record of under 55 is by the recreation IDs that they issue. It is definitely a very small percentage that is under 55 years old that live here. But the actual rule is 80% of the residence have to be 55 and older. That includes homeowners, Renters and guest/family members.

[Schaumburger]

Your comments about the over 55 is just to purchase a home here is totally incorrect. You only have to be 19 or older to purchase a home here or to live here. The way they keep a record of under 55 is by the recreation IDs that they issue. It is definitely a very small percentage that is under 55 years old that live here. But the actual rule is 80% of the residence have to be 55 and older. That includes homeowners, Renters and guest/family members.

A few years ago when visiting TV, I went to an open house hosted by the TV sales representative who owned the house. Since he appeared to be well under age 55, I asked him why he owned a house in TV since he was not living in TV. He said "Homes in TV are a great investment."

[Polar Bear]

...Exactly...
When you actually look carefully, the younger Village residents commit far more crime proportionally.
And...exactly...how did you actually look carefully to come up with that conclusion?

[Barefoot]

When you actually look carefully, the younger Village residents commit far more crime proportionally.
Can you clarify on what statistics you're basing your opinion?

People post things like this with no facts to back them up.
I honestly believe that is a myth that we have a huge problem with young people running amok and causing all kinds of problems.I tend to think you're right.

[Gsmello]

I'm a resident and only 47 years old and my wife 49. We bought here to enjoy the peace, beauty and lifestyle. Most of the problems I have read about is people under 55 who live or sponge off the grandparents who have taken them in.

[jimmemac]

The problem lies not with the responsible under 55s who are residing in TV to assist their parents - God bless them; it lies with the substance abusers, felons and other losers who are unable to live on their own and return to the nest to live off mommy and daddy who take them in, usually again and again. These whippersnappers commit crimes disproportionate to their numbers.

Absolutely correct!!!

[golfing eagles]

The problem lies not with the responsible under 55s who are residing in TV to assist their parents - God bless them; it lies with the substance abusers, felons and other losers who are unable to live on their own and return to the nest to live off mommy and daddy who take them in, usually again and again. These whippersnappers commit crimes disproportionate to their numbers.

According to the FBI crime statistics, only 4.6% of crimes nationwide are committed by people 55 and over. So all younger age groups commit crime disproportionate to their numbers. However, when a crime is committed in TV, there is a greater likelihood than the national average that someone over 55 was responsible, simply because the overwhelming majority of residents are over 55.

[bbbbbb]

20% of the population has to be allowed to be under 55. The amount of trouble being caused by those who are under 55 are seemingly blown out of proportion. 55 and older crowd get arrested for dui drugs and theft just as often. With a population somewhere near 160k problems are bound to happen.

Dont worry about what you hear,come experience the villages for yourself and I think youll like it. =]

24 year old villager

COMMENT

When you have a community where the main event is drinking, Happy Hours starting at 11am and going all night, you will have trouble. For those of us that like to ride a bike, the drunks on the road and paths are an all day challenge and I have seen that so many times, I will not go into that because of all the rationalizations that will come back. Our Cart will do 20 max and the drunks fly by at way way over the speed limit, no problem, just having fun right?
30 mph = 44 Feet per second. Whoopee.
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[jimmemac]

drinking is a cause of many of the problems everywhere

[BlackSheep]

Thank you all so much!!

[PennBF]

I guess no one wants to point a finger at the drinking and effects on behavior. In looking at the statistics you might want to see how many crimes and accidents have some form of drinking involved. Just drive by the restaurants at Lake Sumter Landing and see the abundant number of people at the bar who will leave impaired? A sizable number of crimes, etc have some level of drinking involved. Just don't understand why the Sheriff doesn't post a deputy in the square to observe those leaving the bars in the evening? Being drunk has no age limits:mornincoffee:

[theruizs]

We are in our 60s and have lived here for 5 years now. We have never experienced any problem with anyone of any age. In fact it is kind of nice to occassionally interact here with some of the "younger" crowd, their perspective on life and TV is interesting and valuable. Do not rumors put you off. Spend some time here and see for yourselves!

[golfing eagles]

The problem lies not with the responsible under 55s who are residing in TV to assist their parents - God bless them; it lies with the substance abusers, felons and other losers who are unable to live on their own and return to the nest to live off mommy and daddy who take them in, usually again and again. These whippersnappers commit crimes disproportionate to their numbers.

I agree, and some responsibility rests with mommy and daddy as well. Unfortunately, enabling is not a crime. Perhaps someday, somewhere, a hotshot young assistant DA will charge the parents with "aiding and abetting" , then we'll see where a test case might lead.....

[Tuly914]

I don't live in TV, but I do come to visit for a few days when family is down. Never did I see a younger adult causing problems. However, I did see older crowds drinking, getting drunk and acting like children, but not in bad way. TV is a beautiful place to retire. No matter where you choose to live, you will always get a few people causing a problem regardless of age.
For the few comments here saying how the adult loser children come back to mommy and daddy, that is the cruelest thing to say. You don't know their situation. Those adult children might be there to help a sick parent, or perhaps lost their job. Etc. To call anyone a loser without knowing the details doesn't make you sound anymore intelligent. I have a grown professional adult child who works very hard, and if one day he needed my assistance, or I needed his, it's no ones business who lives with who. With some of the comments here, I personally wouldn't want you for my neighbor.
All said and done, TV is a beautiful place to retire, just mind your own business, and keep your business to yourself or it will come back to bite you!

[Allegiance]

According to the FBI crime statistics, only 4.6% of crimes nationwide are committed by people 55 and over. So all younger age groups commit crime disproportionate to their numbers. However, when a crime is committed in TV, there is a greater likelihood than the national average that someone over 55 was responsible, simply because the overwhelming majority of residents are over 55.Taking that a step further, the average village age is well over 70, or I think even over 75 according to the lastest Sumter County demographics. Having any significant percentage of crimes committed by those residents under 55 in this very "old" community that has very little overall crime to begin with, screams that these "youngsters" are problematic and commit FAR more crime than their numbers proportionately. Not understanding and admitting that is just burying your head in the sand or the snow as it may be.

Parents always defend their kids, no matter how bad. Most are good, but parents of hoodlums will often not admit it as it may well reflect bad parenting.

Read the arrest reports over a period of time. The thing Speaks for itself.

One villager once said raising kids was one criteria for her to value your opinion. I think raising "successful" children is the goal and that is to be admired above all. If your adult children come back to live with you out of necessity in a retirement community, often the parents and children can share the blame.

These comments are directed at those that commit the crimes and their parents. Some of us that have lived here a few years might know some of these families.

[dewilson58]

I don't live in TV, but I do come to visit for a few days when family is down. Never did I see a younger adult causing problems. However, I did see older crowds drinking, getting drunk and acting like children, but not in bad way. TV is a beautiful place to retire. No matter where you choose to live, you will always get a few people causing a problem regardless of age.
For the few comments here saying how the adult loser children come back to mommy and daddy, that is the cruelest thing to say. You don't know their situation. Those adult children might be there to help a sick parent, or perhaps lost their job. Etc. To call anyone a loser without knowing the details doesn't make you sound anymore intelligent. I have a grown professional adult child who works very hard, and if one day he needed my assistance, or I needed his, it's no ones business who lives with who. With some of the comments here, I personally wouldn't want you for my neighbor.
All said and done, TV is a beautiful place to retire, just mind your own business, and keep your business to yourself or it will come back to bite you!


Well Said.

[graciegirl]

I don't live in TV, but I do come to visit for a few days when family is down. Never did I see a younger adult causing problems. However, I did see older crowds drinking, getting drunk and acting like children, but not in bad way. TV is a beautiful place to retire. No matter where you choose to live, you will always get a few people causing a problem regardless of age.
For the few comments here saying how the adult loser children come back to mommy and daddy, that is the cruelest thing to say. You don't know their situation. Those adult children might be there to help a sick parent, or perhaps lost their job. Etc. To call anyone a loser without knowing the details doesn't make you sound anymore intelligent. I have a grown professional adult child who works very hard, and if one day he needed my assistance, or I needed his, it's no ones business who lives with who. With some of the comments here, I personally wouldn't want you for my neighbor.
All said and done, TV is a beautiful place to retire, just mind your own business, and keep your business to yourself or it will come back to bite you!

Thoughtfully written, and I might add that there are some societies that encourage many generations living together in a large home; marrieds and older people and children, with all looking after each other. I am quite sure there are clashes and tensions, but also the result is often greater knowledge of life and better ways to successfully deal with common problems. We had neighbors who moved from India. He came to work for Proctor and Gamble in Cincinnati as an engineer and she was an OB Gyn who immediately began the process to become accredited in the States. It was our pleasure to meet several visiting members of her large family and to enjoy all of them. They joked a lot about arranged marriages working better than randomly dating. We so enjoyed their views and their humor, their acceptance of our ways. and interest in learning all about living in the U.S. and their kindness and genuine affection.

[Taltarzac725]

I don't live in TV, but I do come to visit for a few days when family is down. Never did I see a younger adult causing problems. However, I did see older crowds drinking, getting drunk and acting like children, but not in bad way. TV is a beautiful place to retire. No matter where you choose to live, you will always get a few people causing a problem regardless of age.
For the few comments here saying how the adult loser children come back to mommy and daddy, that is the cruelest thing to say. You don't know their situation. Those adult children might be there to help a sick parent, or perhaps lost their job. Etc. To call anyone a loser without knowing the details doesn't make you sound anymore intelligent. I have a grown professional adult child who works very hard, and if one day he needed my assistance, or I needed his, it's no ones business who lives with who. With some of the comments here, I personally wouldn't want you for my neighbor.
All said and done, TV is a beautiful place to retire, just mind your own business, and keep your business to yourself or it will come back to bite you!

Thanks for your intelligence and compassion. :BigApplause:

I have been here in the Villages since 2005 living with my parents and working on many things during that time. I do have to help them out quite a bit even more now that they are getting quite senior in age. I just cannot take off to DC or wherever when I want. Or even to Tampa for that matter. I have been on TOTV since July 2007 often working on some of these things.

My sister-in-law works for victims of crimes in the Washington, DC area so they cannot come down here as often as I would like. And she grew up in that area of Virginia.

[graciegirl]

Nice story, but the thread is "under 55 and getting into trouble in the villages."

Here is another story, another neighbor in Ohio,has a young son, one who was born with autism who lives with them. He is now a young man, and has just finished all of the public schooling. I think Ryan is now 21. His mother is trained as a teacher, but had to retire in order to see that Ryan was safe when he came home from school. His father holds an executive position with one of the large food chains that have their headquarters in Ohio. Ryan can do many things but cannot hold a job. His parents will be his caregivers as long as they live.

And adding more to the story about Autism in general, it is a spectrum disorder, with many achieving high levels of education, who are very articulate and high functioning but still cannot hold jobs because they are emotionally stressed in an abnormal way with close contacts with others and demands placed on them they are unable to meet.

I kind of think that this relates to children living with their parents, here or anywhere. It is difficult and sometimes unfair to summarily pass judgment on others who appear to be quite bright and normal, but not being successful in the real world. Sometimes they are peddling as fast as they can.

[OhioBuckeye]

You know, there's no city or town perfect. I don't think there's any place that's crime free, know matter what the age is. TV isn't perfect but lots better than any other town or city our size. Where ever you have free entertainment & serve alcohol you're bound to have some kind of trouble because it brings in a younger crowds & undesirable people. So face it, it's going to happen!

[vinsonowen]

Actually, there's no requirement that any percentage of TV's residents be under 55. There is a minimum percentage required for 55 and over, though. Confusion about age restriction in 55+ communities is common, but per federal law, it goes like this: at least 80% of the units must be occupied by someone 55 or older. That's it. The Villages, and any other 55 and older development, can do whatever they want with the remaining 20%. They can make it all 55+ or all under 55 or any combination they choose.

As someone under 55 who lives with a parent in TV and reads the news daily, I feel like a disproportionate number of residents who get in serious trouble here are under 55 and living in a parent or other relative's home. That being said, considering the size of TV, there's very little crime of any sort. I think TV is an incredibly safe, quite, and friendly place, relative to the rest of the country, and I bet you won't regret buying here! :smiley:

[Allegiance]

Actually, there's no requirement that any percentage of TV's residents be under 55. There is a minimum percentage required for 55 and over, though. Confusion about age restriction in 55+ communities is common, but per federal law, it goes like this: at least 80% of the units must be occupied by someone 55 or older. That's it. The Villages, and any other 55 and older development, can do whatever they want with the remaining 20%. They can make it all 55+ or all under 55 or any combination they choose.

As someone under 55 who lives with a parent in TV and reads the news daily, I feel like a disproportionate number of residents who get in serious trouble here are under 55 and living in a parent or other relative's home. That being said, considering the size of TV, there's very little crime of any sort. I think TV is an incredibly safe, quite, and friendly place, relative to the rest of the country, and I bet you won't regret buying here! :smiley:Very true, technically the majority of residents can be 19 years old. The Villages is as close to perfect as it gets, especially dollar for dollar.

[graciegirl]

Very true, technically the majority of residents can be 19 years old. The Villages is as close to perfect as it gets, especially dollar for dollar.

Anyone under the age of 19 is restricted to visiting no more than 30 days in a calendar year in The Villages.

[Allegiance]

Anyone under the age of 19 is restricted to visiting no more than 30 days in a calendar year in The Villages.So therefore most of the village residents can be 19?

[golfing eagles]

So, we now have 50+ posts about crime and who is committing those crimes in TV, one of the safest places in the US.

Facts:

National Violent crime rate: 31.1
Washington, DC rate: 90.9
The Villages rate: 13.8

National property crime rate: 38.1
Washington DC rate: 57.8
The Villages rate: 22.6

BTW, housing cost index on a national average of 100:
Washington: 274
TV: 134

Also, Ithaca NY was listed as the safest city under 150,000 in the country---with a violent crime rate of 18 and property crime rate of 51.2. I don't think TV was listed since it is not a "city", but CDDs spread over 3 counties.

Anyone feel "unsafe" now????

[graciegirl]

The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida)

The following from above link;

"A Declaration of Restrictions has been created for each individual neighborhood, which regulates design and operational aspects, such as landscaping, repairs and maintenance, placement of satellite dishes, hedges, etc. An Architectural Review Committee controls the composition and consistency of the exterior of the residential properties within The Villages. The committee, which consists of Villages residents, reviews and approves alterations and modifications to the properties and homes built by the developer. Committee members serve for three years and are selected by the sitting committee.[11]
To qualify for an exception to the Housing for Older Persons Act prohibitions against discrimination, at least 80% of the homes within The Villages must have at least one person 55 years of age or older residing in the home.[12] Persons under the age of 19 years are not permitted to reside within The Villages unless an exemption is granted. Three subdivisions have been designated as "family units"[13] and are not subject to this restriction. Otherwise, persons under age 19 (such as grandchildren) are permitted to visit for no more than 30 days within a calendar year.[14]

[Allegiance]

Structure[edit]
A Declaration of Restrictions has been created for each individual neighborhood, which regulates design and operational aspects, such as landscaping, repairs and maintenance, placement of satellite dishes, hedges, etc. An Architectural Review Committee controls the composition and consistency of the exterior of the residential properties within The Villages. The committee, which consists of Villages residents, reviews and approves alterations and modifications to the properties and homes built by the developer. Committee members serve for three years and are selected by the sitting committee.[11]
To qualify for an exception to the Housing for Older Persons Act prohibitions against discrimination, at least 80% of the homes within The Villages must have at least one person 55 years of age or older residing in the home.[12] Persons under the age of 19 years are not permitted to reside within The Villages unless an exemption is granted. Three subdivisions have been designated as "family units"[13] and are not subject to this restriction. Otherwise, persons under age 19 (such as grandchildren) are permitted to visit for no more than 30 days within a calendar year.[14]So the majority of residents can be 19?

[graciegirl]

So, we now have 50+ posts about crime and who is committing those crimes in TV, one of the safest places in the US.

Facts:

National Violent crime rate: 31.1
Washington, DC rate: 90.9
The Villages rate: 13.8

National property crime rate: 38.1
Washington DC rate: 57.8
The Villages rate: 22.6

BTW, housing cost index on a national average of 100:
Washington: 274
TV: 134

Also, Ithaca NY was listed as the safest city under 150,000 in the country---with a violent crime rate of 18 and property crime rate of 51.2. I don't think TV was listed since it is not a "city", but CDDs spread over 3 counties.

Anyone feel "unsafe" now????

Excellent post.

[manaboutown]

So, we now have 50+ posts about crime and who is committing those crimes in TV, one of the safest places in the US.

Facts:

National Violent crime rate: 31.1
Washington, DC rate: 90.9
The Villages rate: 13.8

National property crime rate: 38.1
Washington DC rate: 57.8
The Villages rate: 22.6

BTW, housing cost index on a national average of 100:
Washington: 274
TV: 134

Also, Ithaca NY was listed as the safest city under 150,000 in the country---with a violent crime rate of 18 and property crime rate of 51.2. I don't think TV was listed since it is not a "city", but CDDs spread over 3 counties.

Anyone feel "unsafe" now????

Thank you for posting these statistics.

No question TV is about as safe as it gets in the country which may largely be due to its median age of what, about 70?

[golfing eagles]

Thank you for posting these statistics.

No question TV is about as safe as it gets in the country which may largely be due to its median age of what, about 70?

Now for a complete surprise:

I ran a comparison of TV with Brookville, NY, where I went to HS, on the same site:

Best Places to Live | Compare cost of living, crime, cities, schools and more. Sperling's BestPlaces (http://www.bestplaces.net/compare-cities/?c1=the_villages_fl)

Brookville is old money north shore LI, right out of "The Great Gatsby". Nothing but mansions, horse farms, and even new construction is zoned on 5 acre lots. There are only 350 homes in the whole community. I would have expected the violent crime rate to be just about 0. However, that rate was 19.2 compared with 13.8 in TV. Even the property crime rate was slightly higher at 23. So with 120,000 residents here in winter, I am even more amazed at the low crime rate.

[mstepka]

Actually We are under 40 and was able to purchase an investment home in TV. We have resident ID's and always get looks when going to the gym at Seabreeze or in the pools.

[graciegirl]

Actually We are under 40 and was able to purchase an investment home in TV. We have resident ID's and always get looks when going to the gym at Seabreeze or in the pools.

80/20

The Villages, Florida - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Villages,_Florida)

[Viperguy]

Wonder where we can find an actual breakdown of TV demographics, if there is one?

[graciegirl]

Wonder where we can find an actual breakdown of TV demographics, if there is one?

Here are many;
demographics of the villages, florida - Bing (https://www.bing.com/search?q=demographics+of+the+villages%2C+florida&form=EDGHPT&qs=PF&cvid=783865e6995f467a97fef7aad68b5e23&cc=US&setlang=en-US&elv=AXXfrEiqqD9r3GuelwApulqF5YSpztYHkW2VyYMDOeQ47N T5jMUtaO4T2SaoKs7I44bIodBzSYCfARc9UgpJA5IbzWagokUW mU3n64HutfMC)

HUD (Federal Agency on Housing and Urban Development) is the one who would monitor the population's ages in order for it to remain an age restricted community.

[Bonny]

We bought a lot in 1999 and moved here in May of 2000, full time, 17 years ago. I was 48 & hubby was 49. People up north couldn't believe we were moving to a retirement community. Now they all want to live here. LOL
We love it here as much now as when we first moved here.
We have never felt unsafe. Of course, that doesn't mean we don't think things can happen and keep aware of our surroundings.
We enjoy the younger people here. Many of them are our good friends. Many things have brought them here.
God bless the young ones who give up their life to come and help their parents and grandparents. Maybe the parents are helping their children through rough times, job loss, divorce, etc.
We need to have compassion for everyone. We have no idea what is going on in their lives and frankly, it's not my business.
Crime & problems have no age barrier. People want to blame the young ones that live here. I would think the majority that we read about live in surrounding communities, not the Villages.
Hope everyone has a wonderful day. Looks like some more rain. :)

[Barefoot]

We bought a lot in 1999 and moved here in May of 2000, full time, 17 years ago. I was 48 & hubby was 49. People up north couldn't believe we were moving to a retirement community. Now they all want to live here. LOL
We love it here as much now as when we first moved here.
We have never felt unsafe. Of course, that doesn't mean we don't think things can happen and keep aware of our surroundings.
We enjoy the younger people here. Many of them are our good friends. Many things have brought them here.
God bless the young ones who give up their life to come and help their parents and grandparents. Maybe the parents are helping their children through rough times, job loss, divorce, etc.
We need to have compassion for everyone. We have no idea what is going on in their lives and frankly, it's not my business.
Crime & problems have no age barrier. People want to blame the young ones that live here. I would think the majority that we read about live in surrounding communities, not the Villages.
Hope everyone has a wonderful day. Looks like some more rain. :)
Good for you Bonny, a compassionate and realistic post. :ho:

[golfing eagles]

Good for you Bonny, a compassionate and realistic post. :ho:

I agree.

BTW, is failure to deliver lobster owed a crime???

[SALYBOW]

I DON'T THINK IT IS FAIR TO BLAME UNDER 55 POPULATION FOR ALL THE TROUBLE CAUSED HERE. I BELIEVE THE SMALL AMOUNT OF TROUBLE IS SPREAD OVER EVERY AGE GROUP. FOR A POPULATION AS LARGE AS THE VILLAGES WE HAVE VERY LITTLE DISRUPTION.

I THINK SOME PEOPLE ON THIS SITE LIKE TO FIND SOME PLACE TO POKE A STICK JUST TO STIR A FIRE. TO ME THAT IS EVERY BIT AS DELETERIOUS AS THE SMALL AMOUNT OF TROUBLE WE HAVE. A SECOND NOTION IS THAT THERE ARE NON VILLAGERS THAT COME INTO TV. WHERE ELSE CAN ONE SEE ROWS AND ROWS OF GOLF CLUB CARRYING CARTS PARKED ALL OVER AND STILL HEAR OF SO LITTLE STOLEN CLUB.
:spoken:

[Allegiance]

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[emb2458]

From what I have read, those under 55 getting into trouble are age 19 and over living with someone who is age 55 and older which is legal in the Villages.

[Bonny]

From what I have read, those under 55 getting into trouble are age 19 and over living with someone who is age 55 and older which is legal in the Villages.
Most of it is younger people living in surrounding communities not in the Villages.

[manaboutown]

Most of it is younger people living in surrounding communities not in the Villages.

:agree:

[Emmakrock@yahoo.com]

Try calling the sheriff office and look at their arrest. You will get your answer. The way a lot get here is they have parents here and usually have been in trouble.They move in with mom and Dad and then In trouble again.Check if you are moving for sexual affenders,particularly if you have children.This is a great place to live but it is not without its crime..again check with the sheriff

[Emmakrock@yahoo.com]

They are correct that children must be over 18 to live with parents..Don't be afraid to move here, just be careful like you would in every city. We do have a great community watch that tries to drive through each neighborhood to keep us protected

[CindyNah1]

I"ve lived here 2 yr. there was robbery on my street and the police caught them within 1/2 hr. they are ON IT. and YES was blown out of proportion in the neighborhood.

where are you movingfrom? I suspect they crime there is WAY more than here

Come and ENJOYthis amazing place and all it has to offer

[Allegiance]

I"ve lived here 2 yr. there was robbery on my street and the police caught them within 1/2 hr. they are ON IT. and YES was blown out of proportion in the neighborhood.

where are you movingfrom? I suspect they crime there is WAY more than here

Come and ENJOYthis amazing place and all it has to offerWas the criminal they caught 75 years old?

[Bonny]

Try calling the sheriff office and look at their arrest. You will get your answer. The way a lot get here is they have parents here and usually have been in trouble.They move in with mom and Dad and then In trouble again.Check if you are moving for sexual affenders,particularly if you have children.This is a great place to live but it is not without its crime..again check with the sheriff
Where did you get your information? How would you know this?

[Dr Winston O Boogie jr]

Actually, there's no requirement that any percentage of TV's residents be under 55. There is a minimum percentage required for 55 and over, though. Confusion about age restriction in 55+ communities is common, but per federal law, it goes like this: at least 80% of the units must be occupied by someone 55 or older. That's it. The Villages, and any other 55 and older development, can do whatever they want with the remaining 20%. They can make it all 55+ or all under 55 or any combination they choose.

As someone under 55 who lives with a parent in TV and reads the news daily, I feel like a disproportionate number of residents who get in serious trouble here are under 55 and living in a parent or other relative's home. That being said, considering the size of TV, there's very little crime of any sort. I think TV is an incredibly safe, quite, and friendly place, relative to the rest of the country, and I bet you won't regret buying here! :smiley:

In fact, if you do the math, you'll find that it's mathematically possible, although extremely unlikely, for over 80% of the people living here to be under 55.

And yes, we have one of the lowest crime rates in the world. That doesn't mean that there is zero crime, but for all of the people who are complaining that TV is going to hell and is dangerous, I'd like to see crime statistics of your home towns compared to The Villages.

[dewilson58]

Look at all the old people being bad according to the online news paper.

The sky is falling.

What should be do???

[ffresh]

Funny (not as in Ha Ha but as in peculiar)

I read this thread yesterday with only a modicum of interest (I'm a seasonal resident) and today I read this @ TVNews:
Villagers’ son arrested after reportedly leaving critically injured woman after night of drinking

you'll have to go to the competing news ; I tried the url input tool several times - no workie - I guess it won't allow a url from a competitor or the tool is inop :loco: