The smartest thing you can do with gas cart

[Topspinmo]

CHECK the OIL when you fill it up! if it's low PUT OIL IN IT (dirty oil better than NO OIL). If it's black and gooey Change it. Most only hold quart of oil. That's 4 to 8 bucks.
The older it is the more you need to pay attention and up keep. ESPECIALLY IF YOU SEE OIL DROPS ON THE GARAGE FLOOR or you see puff of blue or white smoke occasionally, you have oil burner/leaker that's overheating and damaged the seals that hold the oil inside the crankcase. CHECK the Oil weekly.

Course if you got thousands to throw away just run it till it goes Clank Clank which means the connection rods about ready to come loose and when you pull the dipstick you see NO OIL. But, it's Too late then?

OK lets see hands the don't know where the dipstick is or how to determine it the oil level is GOOD????

[Allegiance]

What's a dipstick?

[Wiotte]

CHECK the OIL when you fill it up! if it's low PUT OIL IN IT (dirty oil better than NO OIL). If it's black and gooey Change it. Most only hold quart of oil. That's 4 to 8 bucks.

The older it is the more you need to pay attention and up keep. ESPECIALLY IF YOU SEE OIL DROPS ON THE GARAGE FLOOR or you see puff of blue or white smoke occasionally, you have oil burner/leaker that's overheating and damaged the seals that hold the oil inside the crankcase. CHECK the Oil weekly.



Course if you got thousands to throw away just run it till it goes Clank Clank which means the connection rods about ready to come loose and when you pull the dipstick you see NO OIL. But, it's Too late then?



OK lets see hands the don't know where the dipstick is or how to determine it the oil level is GOOD????



Sounds like your wife almost grenaded your block ?


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[rubicon]

I was told the batteries Yamaha install in their carts are junk and will need replacement prematurely?

[doran]

I only do electric. I do not like the vibration, noise and exhaust fumes from gas, especially in tunnels. My Par Car Eagle has a 60 mile range and I have never had any worries what so ever. Only my opinion. You have to replace the batteries every 3-4 years but that is ok.

[Topspinmo]

I was told the batteries Yamaha install in their carts are junk and will need replacement prematurely?

All batteries fail prematurely. It they last 10 years why didn't they last 11?

[dewilson58]

I was told the batteries Yamaha install in their carts are junk and will need replacement prematurely?

Seems true for all battery operated items. Flashlights, cars, etc., it's cheaper for the manufacturers to put less-than-premium batteries it new items.

[rubicon]

Seems true for all battery operated items. Flashlights, cars, etc., it's cheaper for the manufacturers to put less-than-premium batteries it new items.

Repair guy told me my battery on my 2015 was failing but it was up to me if I wanted to wait. the cart only has 2200 miles on it. I can't give you all the tech talk but essentially he said this battery was not recharging especially since because I was not running it daily like my car...then explained that the battery Yamaha installed is junk.?????? Just wondering if other people are hearing the same thing?

[Topspinmo]

I only do electric. I do not like the vibration, noise and exhaust fumes from gas, especially in tunnels. My Par Car Eagle has a 60 mile range and I have never had any worries what so ever. Only my opinion. You have to replace the batteries every 3-4 years but that is ok.

Nothing wrong with electric carts, I had one and liked it for around my area. Didn't want to spend 800 Plus on batteries every few years for maximum run times. Each has there own Value and responsibilities maintaining them. My point for gas carts was CHECK your oil Occasionally, but better to do it Often!.

[Topspinmo]

Repair guy told me my battery on my 2015 was failing but it was up to me if I wanted to wait. the cart only has 2200 miles on it. I can't give you all the tech talk but essentially he said this battery was not recharging especially since because I was not running it daily like my car...then explained that the battery Yamaha installed is junk.?????? Just wondering if other people are hearing the same thing?

Why not just tell us the name brand of the batteries or Private email it. Pretty sure Yamaha don't make batteries? if they're name on them I sure they are rebranded to Yamaha spec's?

[bbbbbb]

We have an EZ Go and love it. No problems ever, no smoke, no vibration, no gas. NO, we did not buy from the village carts. Why buy a cart from someone who owns a gas pump? Maybe they want to sell gas??????????

[Fredster]

We have an EZ Go and love it. No problems ever, no smoke, no vibration, no gas. NO, we did not buy from the village carts. Why buy a cart from someone who owns a gas pump? Maybe they want to sell gas??????????

Glad you like your EZ Go, but this thread is about gas carts!
By the way I really like my Yamaha EFI gas cart,
and I didn't buy it from someone who has a gas pump!
I also agree with the OP that checking and maintaining correct
oil level is a very good thing to do!

[kcrazorbackfan]

We both have gas Yamaha's and I change the oil (myself) in both every 1,000 miles. Some may chortle that is excessive but it's only 1 qt. in each one. What I save in DIY allows me to keep fresher oil quicker than what's probably recommended but I also know for sure what oil is going in our carts.

[Topspinmo]

We have an EZ Go and love it. No problems ever, no smoke, no vibration, no gas. NO, we did not buy from the village carts. Why buy a cart from someone who owns a gas pump? Maybe they want to sell gas??????????


"Ever" NOT Going to happen! The clock is ticking. You love it now but we see when the 1000 dollar plus batteries (batteries are on 10 to 15% increase annually) hits you in the pocket book. Every year they get weaker and weaker.

[Wiotte]

"Ever" NOT Going to happen! The clock is ticking. You love it now but we see when the 1000 dollar plus batteries (batteries are on 10 to 15% increase annually) hits you in the pocket book. Every year they get weaker and weaker.



Hence the reason why the internal combustion engine has dominated for the past 100 years ! And will continue to well into our future.


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[Barefoot]

My point for gas carts was CHECK your oil Occasionally, but better to do it Often!.Thanks for the heads up. I've never owned a gas cart before, so your instruction is appreciated.

[manaboutown]

Oil is cheaper than engines.

[tophcfa]

Agree, changing the oil (I prefer to use a synthetic called Amsoil) is the most important. But also important is to make sure the air filter is clean, slow way down for all those dam speed bumps, and never use gas containing ethanol. The gas is very important if you are a part time resident. If you must use ethanol, always use a quality fuel stabilizer. Also a good idea to put the battery on a trickle charger periodically and check the PSI in the tires.

[photo1902]

We have an EZ Go and love it. No problems ever, no smoke, no vibration, no gas. NO, we did not buy from the village carts. Why buy a cart from someone who owns a gas pump? Maybe they want to sell gas??????????

I like that they sell Ethanol free gas. Very convenient. And to my knowledge, other than the gas station at Pinellas Plaza, The Villages Golf Cart stores are the only cart accessible place that sells it.

[Topspinmo]

Thanks for the heads up. I've never owned a gas cart before, so your instruction is appreciated.


Just keep it in the XXXXX on the dip stick. Normal engine won't use much oil till the oil looses it viscosity and become dirty with combustion by products. Once this happens the oil losses it ability to clean, cool,, and lubricant which will be obvious from the color of the oil, black and dirty looking when you wipe it off with paper towel. IMO this is beyond time to change it, but it is vital to at least keep it within the XXXXXs on the dip stick and you will have to check it more often due to overheating effect on the engine.

Over several years of use the engine clearances become worn and the seals that seal oil in the crank case become brittle and worn (or from lack of oil changes). This causes oil consumption and leaks. Leaks will be noticeable by oil drops under the cart when it sets for while. This is when checking the oil becomes weekly or every other day depending on use.

You will find lots of opinions on when to change oil. Even owner's manual may be unclear due to use and conditions. IMO I can't leave oil in air cooled (basically lawn mower engine) for year. Snow birds could probably get away with it due to limited use. But, IMO any full time resident that uses golf cart every day twice year with quality oil. Some claim the put 15k year on they're cart. IMO that would be every 4 months minimum IMO.

[Nucky]

Our Yamaha Gas is in for its first year service. Where did the time go? Anyway we only have about 1200 miles on it rite now and changing the oil once a year and having it checked over is worth the peace of mind and the $75 to $100. I bought new because I want it to be us from day one putting every mile on that cart ourselves. I have no plan of any adult children being loaned our cart. We have had friends ask to borrow our cart when they had company and were surprised when I said no. Rite in stride I asked if I could borrow their tooth brush, I hope they got the point that the cart is a personal item and should be cared for the way you wish to care for it. Krazorback Bravo for the low mileage oil change. I baby our cart the same way our car get the best treatment.....Pay me now or pay me later...I want to try and prevent the TOW of shame.

[biker1]

According to Yamaha, up to 10% ethanol is fine. The problem with ethanol is that it absorbs water so a fuel stabilizer would be good if the cart sits for long periods of time. If you are using the cart regularly, it isn't clear that a fuel stabilizer will make any difference. I have 11,000 miles with regular gas with 10% ethanol and no issues.

Regarding oil changes, I change the oil every 50-75 hours of running time (roughly every 1000 miles). This is in line with the Yamaha owner's manual (1250 mile oil changes). Without a used oil analysis, it is impossible to know whether this is too frequent or not. It only takes a quart so erroring on the conservative side is really not an issue. Mobil 1 from Walmart ($24 for 5 quarts) is a cost effective synthetic. The air filter should be good for about 10K miles. The differential oil (1.8 quarts) should also be changed periodically. The Villages Golf Cart store has the OEM differential oil with the friction modifiers for a very good price. A shot of grease for the clutch if it has a zerk fitting is probably a good idea also.

Agree, changing the oil (I prefer to use a synthetic called Amsoil) is the most important. But also important is to make sure the air filter is clean, slow way down for all those dam speed bumps, and never use gas containing ethanol. The gas is very important if you are a part time resident. If you must use ethanol, always use a quality fuel stabilizer. Also a good idea to put the battery on a trickle charger periodically and check the PSI in the tires.

[biker1]

I doubt anyone is driving a golf cart 15k miles per year. That would work out to about 40 miles a day, 365 days a year. If you don't drive your cart one day then you need to drive it 80 miles the next day to maintain the pace. It is hard to average more than about 16 mph on the MMPs and the roads so you would be looking at somewhere between 2 and 3 hours a day of driving. The Villages is only 12 miles long. A round of golf on the Championship courses is about 5 miles.

Some claim the put 15k year on they're cart. IMO that would be every 4 months minimum IMO.

[Topspinmo]

According to Yamaha, up to 10% ethanol is fine. The problem with ethanol is that it absorbs water so a fuel stabilizer would be good if the cart sits for long periods of time. If you are using the cart regularly, it isn't clear that a fuel stabilizer will make any difference. I have 11,000 miles with regular gas with 10% ethanol and no issues.

Regarding oil changes, I change the oil every 50-75 hours of running time (roughly every 1000 miles). This is in line with the Yamaha owner's manual (1250 mile oil changes). Without a used oil analysis, it is impossible to know whether this is too frequent or not. It only takes a quart so erroring on the conservative side is really not an issue. Mobil 1 from Walmart ($24 for 5 quarts) is a cost effective synthetic. The air filter should be good for about 10K miles. The differential oil (1.8 quarts) should also be changed periodically. The Villages Golf Cart store has the OEM differential oil with the friction modifiers for a very good price. A shot of grease for the clutch if it has a zerk fitting is probably a good idea also.

I found two grease zerks on the drive line. One on the centrifugal clutch (as you mention) and one on the transaxle pulley ujoint to the transaxle.

[Topspinmo]

I doubt anyone is driving a golf cart 15k miles per year. That would work out to about 40 miles a day, 365 days a year. If you don't drive your cart one day then you need to drive it 80 miles the next day to maintain the pace. It is hard to average more than about 16 mph on the MMPs and the roads so you would be looking at somewhere between 2 and 3 hours a day of driving. The Villages is only 12 miles long. A round of golf on the Championship courses is about 5 miles.

I didn't proof read and put 1 in there. I meant 5k or more. Not me We average around 2k year for full time resident

[biker1]

OK, that makes sense. We drive 3.5k miles per year. I have no doubt that there are plenty of folks driving 5k miles per year.

I didn't proof read and put 1 in there. I meant 5k or more. Not me We average around 2k year for full time resident

[biker1]

I believe 1 shot of grease is good. I believe less is better than more.

I found two grease zerks on the drive line. One on the centrifugal clutch (as you mention) and one on the transaxle pulley ujoint to the transaxle.

[Topspinmo]

O, one more thing. IMO don't over fill crankcase. Almost as bad as not checking it. Keep the oil level in the XXXXXXs on the dip stick. If you over fill it this create blow by pressure which could lead to leaks and oil pushed up into the carb. Through the blow by tube. Basically the excess oil has to go some where cause it expands when it gets hot making even less room in the crankcase so it starts pushing it out and the first place usually up in the air filter housing IMO. Rebuttal???? Open for discussion?:gc:

[Wiotte]

O, one more thing. IMO don't over fill crankcase. Almost as bad as not checking it. Keep the oil level in the XXXXXXs on the dip stick. If you over fill it this create blow by pressure which could lead to leaks and oil pushed up into the carb. Through the blow by tube. Basically the excess oil has to go some where cause it expands when it gets hot making even less room in the crankcase so it starts pushing it out and the first place usually up in the air filter housing IMO. Rebuttal???? Open for discussion?:gc:



Huh ? Do you mean more is not better ? Typically I'll run 1.5 qts. 50W and add a can of STP and Marvel Mystery Oil. Keeps my cart running cool and super quiet all year long. No blow by [emoji6]


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[Wiotte]

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[Carl in Tampa]

Maybe we should start a new thread titled "The smartest thing you can do with an electric cart."

It would only need one posting.

"Get rid of it."

:a20:

[justjim]

Repair guy told me my battery on my 2015 was failing but it was up to me if I wanted to wait. the cart only has 2200 miles on it. I can't give you all the tech talk but essentially he said this battery was not recharging especially since because I was not running it daily like my car...then explained that the battery Yamaha installed is junk.?????? Just wondering if other people are hearing the same thing?

I was told the same about the battery in my new car (3 years ago). The debate about battery vs. gas golf carts has been going on for the 10 years I've lived in TV. I say to each his own. :popcorn:

[TechGC]

I was told the batteries Yamaha install in their carts are junk and will need replacement prematurely?


There is nothing wrong with the factory Yamaha batteries, Id say time for a new mechanic.

[Topspinmo]

Maybe we should start a new thread titled "The smartest thing you can do with an electric cart."

It would only need one posting.

"Get rid of it."

:a20:

:bigbow: now that's funny:1rotfl:

[Topspinmo]

Huh ? Do you mean more is not better ? Typically I'll run 1.5 qts. 50W and add a can of STP and Marvel Mystery Oil. Keeps my cart running cool and super quiet all year long. No blow by [emoji6]


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So you got blue streak 6 or flathead I take it!:)

Reminds me of neighbor every time he put gas in his put oil in, but he didn't check the level before or after. He complains to me that it wouldn't start? cause it was hydro locked.