Fire and Fury Like the World Has Never Seen.

[Taltarzac725]

Trump says North Korea will be met with 'fire and fury like the world has never seen' if it escalates nuclear threat | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-north-korea-fire-and-fury-like-the-world-has-never-seen-nuclear-threat-a7883386.html)

Has this man even studied the First and Second World Wars? How about the US Civil War?

I hate it when people who seem to know nothing of war start spuming at the mouth about it. Fits Donald John Trump to a tee. At least, he has John Kelly who seems to know quite a bit about the horrors of war.

I volunteered for a year of Saturdays in 1977-1978 at the Veterans of Foreign Wars Hospital in Reno, Nevada as well as helped my Uncle Bill who lost a good part of his skull, and arm and a leg and 6 members of his 8 man squad to a Nazi tank's tree burst when he was landing at Anzio, Italy. Battle of Anzio - Wikipedia (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Anzio) Because of his head injury and advanced age he would sometimes find himself back at Anzio having conversations with his men. I helped him for three months in 1994 before he could get into a nursing home 400 feet down the street in a suburb of Chicago near O'Hare airport.

[justjim]

Trump being Trump speaking "off the cuff". A preemptive strike at North Korea would have severe consequences for South Korea too. You couldn't Nuke North Korea without serious South Korea Fallout.

[Mickedamouse24]

:sad: I do think we have already had one war with North Korea!! No one remember the years 1950 thru 53 and that the US lost almost 190,000 troops! That war or conflict was not won by either side! There was a cease fire and everyone went home! Never resolved and there has been a tense atmosphere every since. Maybe the US and South Korea should have fought to win instead of a draw! So, here we are again!:ohdear:

[Allegiance]

Thank you clinton and obama for this mess The Donald must clean up.

[Rockyrd]

thank you clinton and obama for this mess the donald must clean up.

you will need to back that up or as usual you are simply trolling.

[Rockyrd]

:sad: I do think we have already had one war with North Korea!! No one remember the years 1950 thru 53 and that the US lost almost 190,000 troops! That war or conflict was not won by either side! There was a cease fire and everyone went home! Never resolved and there has been a tense atmosphere every since. Maybe the US and South Korea should have fought to win instead of a draw! So, here we are again!:ohdear:

Remember it well. Lots of body bags, etc. Lost 3 uncles and a cousin in that

[Don Baldwin]

:sad: I do think we have already had one war with North Korea!! No one remember the years 1950 thru 53 and that the US lost almost 190,000 troops! That war or conflict was not won by either side! There was a cease fire and everyone went home! Never resolved and there has been a tense atmosphere every since. Maybe the US and South Korea should have fought to win instead of a draw! So, here we are again!:ohdear:

The Chinese wanted and got NK to keep a buffer around them...like Russia did with the Eastern European countries. It used to act as an "early warning system" as any invasion would have to go through them first. Now, buffer countries aren't needed...the invasion comes from the sky.

[wjboyer1]

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President Trump’s bombastic rhetoric is not appropriate when we are dealing with the possibility of a nuclear war that could kill millions of people. North Korea’s development of nuclear weapons and missile capability is an enormously serious issue and we need serious people at the State Department dealing with it. Our job now is to work with China and our allies in the region and around the world on a comprehensive diplomatic strategy to address this problem.

[ColdNoMore]

I GOT IT!!!


Trump's need to compare dicks and his inability to ever admit to being wrong, along with the potential of saving millions of people...can easily be solved. :D


Trump simply makes a quick and secret deal with China, for them to put on a YUGE fireworks display in front of North Korea, which fulfills Chump's reckless statement of..."face fire and fury like the world has never seen" :thumbup:



I know, I know...I'm brilliant. :ho:

[dirtbanker]

you will need to back that up or as usual you are simply trolling.

You got something that proves him wrong, feel free to post it.

Obviously Obamma was too busy flaming the racial divide and sucking crooked Hillary's brown hole to deal with NK...If that was not true NK would have never developed the rockets...

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[dirtbanker]

I GOT IT!!!
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You got nothing...absolutely nothing.

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[jebartle]

Unless your ready to send your grandchildren to war, negotiate, negotiate, and then negotiate!!!!

[Rockyrd]

Unless your ready to send your grandchildren to war, negotiate, negotiate, and then negotiate!!!!

And a human refugee problem that will dwarf Syria refugees, along with a cost to the world which is immeasurable.

[Taltarzac725]

Unless your ready to send your grandchildren to war, negotiate, negotiate, and then negotiate!!!!

Actually I more scared of nuclear bomb hitting San Francisco or some place like that. North Korea would probably be obliterated if that happened but the wind might carry the nuclear fallout into China or South Korea.

This could trigger a final nuclear war that erases the world as we know it.

Trump is probably one of the worst leaders to have in such a scenario.

[cologal]

You got something that proves him wrong, feel free to post it.

Obviously Obamma was too busy flaming the racial divide and sucking crooked Hillary's brown hole to deal with NK...If that was not true NK would have never developed the rockets...

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Dirt.....

Your rhetoric is a bit over the top....

North Korea has been a problem for years and many Presidents. We both know that any action taken against North Korea will adversely affect both South Korea and Japan.

This article from the World Post outlines how each of last 3 Presidents have approached the Korea problem.

Three Presidents Facing North Korea - A Review of U.S. Foreign Policy | HuffPost (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/young-professionals-in-foreign-policy/three-presidents-facing-n_b_9335546.html)


COPUFF OUT WEST IN THE MILE HIGH STATE!

[fourandrew]

Thank you clinton and obama for this mess The Donald must clean up.


Clinton and Obama???:0000000000luvmyhors--you forgot Bush, Bush Sr. Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Ford, Kennedy, Eisenhower.

[rubicon]

Although hyperbolic, Trump simply stated North Korea's escalating nuclear threats intolerable.... Notice he did not set any RED LINES. However what he did intimate is that the USA has the ability to raise the geopolitical temperature and the means to carry it out. Trump has the support of NSA Mc Masters and Defense secretary Jim Mattis. Lindsey Graham added that North Korea needs to believe Trump. Hence China needs to believe Trump and they better begin by cutting off oil to North Korea
Trumps' comments also were a signal to the North Korean regime that the need to get their house in order, perhaps with leadership change.

Watch to see the the military buildup Trump makes present in the pacific theater.

The negativity came from the usual suspects in the press, legislature, Hollywood (yawn)

Personal Best Regards:

[Taltarzac725]

Although hyperbolic, Trump simply stated North Korea's escalating nuclear threats intolerable.... Notice he did not set any RED LINES. However what he did intimate is that the USA has the ability to raise the geopolitical temperature and the means to carry it out. Trump has the support of NSA Mc Masters and Defense secretary Jim Mattis. Lindsey Graham added that North Korea needs to believe Trump. Hence China needs to believe Trump and they better begin by cutting off oil to North Korea
Trumps' comments also were a signal to the North Korean regime that the need to get their house in order, perhaps with leadership change.

Watch to see the the military buildup Trump makes present in the pacific theater.

The negativity came from the usual suspects in the press, legislature, Hollywood (yawn)

Personal Best Regards:

Same old Trump love. This man is extremely dangerous. Trump escalates rhetoric on threat from North Korea - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/trump-escalates-rhetoric-on-threat-from-north-korea/2017/08/10/ff49e018-7ded-11e7-83c7-5bd5460f0d7e_story.html?utm_term=.5629d7a8f70b)

[Taltarzac725]

Donald Trump, North Korea, and the Threat of Nuclear War - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/11/trump-nuclear-north-korea/506750/)

Was discussed in November 2016.

[dirtbanker]

And a human refugee problem that will dwarf Syria refugees, along with a cost to the world which is immeasurable.

Now you're onto something! We can gather up them Syrian refugees send them over to North Korea to battle it out...

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[dirtbanker]

Dirt.....

Your rhetoric is a bit over the top....

North Korea has been a problem for years and many Presidents. We both know that any action taken against North Korea will adversely affect both South Korea and Japan.

This article from the World Post outlines how each of last 3 Presidents have approached the Korea problem.

Three Presidents Facing North Korea - A Review of U.S. Foreign Policy | HuffPost (http://www.huffingtonpost.com/young-professionals-in-foreign-policy/three-presidents-facing-n_b_9335546.html)


COPUFF OUT WEST IN THE MILE HIGH STATE!

I am comfortable with my rhetoric. Trump's been in office for about 6 months, Obama did nothing to thwart North Korea's attempt at building nuclear warheads and a rocket program. Now the Liberals want to whine about the chance of a nuclear war and point the finger at Trump. Why weren't they complaining and whining when Obama was in office and doing nothing about the future?

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[dirtbanker]

Actually I more scared of nuclear bomb hitting San Francisco or some place like that. North Korea would probably be obliterated if that happened but the wind might carry the nuclear fallout into China or South Korea.

This could trigger a final nuclear war that erases the world as we know it.

Trump is probably one of the worst leaders to have in such a scenario.

You should worry more about who's going to take care of you after your parents pass away... Useless piece of s***

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[cologal]

I am comfortable with my rhetoric. Trump's been in office for about 6 months, Obama did nothing to thwart North Korea's attempt at building nuclear warheads and a rocket program. Now the Liberals want to whine about the chance of a nuclear war and point the finger at Trump. Why weren't they complaining and whining when Obama was in office and doing nothing about the future?

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Dirt.... I sign every one of my posts with COPUFF. I find sometimes it's better to embrace things then fight them. I can't change my login name or I would.

The North already had both a missile and a nuclear program before President Obama took office. They didn't have one after President Clinton. So which President is in the middle?

In the late 1990's the US and North Korea entered into a series of agreements the Agreed Framework. During the Bush Administration they began to violate that framework.

North Korea and the End of the Agreed Framework | The Heritage Foundation (http://www.heritage.org/asia/report/north-korea-and-the-end-the-agreed-framework)

I think you would agree the Heritage Foundation is NOT a liberal think tank!

So the nuclear breakout occurred under President G. W. Bush. But if it hadn't happened then it would have happened under Obama because the risks of going to war with Korea are just to high!

The only thing I will say about President Trump in regard to this is....best not to poke a stick in the KID's eye cause he has already killed off anyone who would oppose him including family and generals....no one is going to say no to him now!

COPUFF OUT WEST WHERE IT RAINS NOW EVERY DAY!

[wjboyer1]

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[Paper1]

Clinton and Obama???:0000000000luvmyhors--you forgot Bush, Bush Sr. Reagan, Carter, Nixon, Ford, Kennedy, Eisenhower.

If you are looking for blame you missed. Our appetite for corporate profits driving our manufacturing to China is the problem. Our consumer dollars have made them a powerhouse in Pacific theatre and have effectively neutered us. As they pile up American dollars we are trying to figure out how to borrow more money to send them more. IMHO

[dirtbanker]

If you are looking for blame you missed. Our appetite for corporate profits driving our manufacturing to China is the problem. Our consumer dollars have made them a powerhouse in Pacific theatre and have effectively neutered us. As they pile up American dollars we are trying to figure out how to borrow more money to send them more. IMHODon't forget all the dollars we print to support the lazy and useless in this country

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[dirtbanker]

Dirt.... I sign every one of my posts with COPUFF. I find sometimes it's better to embrace things then fight them. I can't change my login name or I would.

The North already had both a missile and a nuclear program before President Obama took office. They didn't have one after President Clinton. So which President is in the middle?

In the late 1990's the US and North Korea entered into a series of agreements the Agreed Framework. During the Bush Administration they began to violate that framework.

North Korea and the End of the Agreed Framework | The Heritage Foundation (http://www.heritage.org/asia/report/north-korea-and-the-end-the-agreed-framework)

I think you would agree the Heritage Foundation is NOT a liberal think tank!

So the nuclear breakout occurred under President G. W. Bush. But if it hadn't happened then it would have happened under Obama because the risks of going to war with Korea are just to high!

The only thing I will say about President Trump in regard to this is....best not to poke a stick in the KID's eye cause he has already killed off anyone who would oppose him including family and generals....no one is going to say no to him now!

COPUFF OUT WEST WHERE IT RAINS NOW EVERY DAY!Copuff, if you're going to quote me the least you could do is answer the questions posed... Why were you not bitching when Obama was doing nothing to thwart Korea's nuclear warhead program and rocket program, for eight friggin years the guy did nothing.

Is that what you were hoping president Trump was going to do, nothing?

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[cologal]

Copuff, if you're going to quote me the least you could do is answer the questions posed... Why were you not bitching when Obama was doing nothing to thwart Korea's nuclear warhead program and rocket program, for eight friggin years the guy did nothing.

Is that what you were hoping president Trump was going to do, nothing?

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Dirt, I went back to find this....

Trump's been in office for about 6 months, Obama did nothing to thwart North Korea's attempt at building nuclear warheads and a rocket program. Now the Liberals want to whine about the chance of a nuclear war and point the finger at Trump. Why weren't they complaining and whining when Obama was in office and doing nothing about the future?

Every past President since Korean War crease fire has had a policy toward the North. I think we can both agree China is a major player in this game. North Korea would have collapsed decades ago if it were not for China.

Correct me if I am wrong but I cannot remember any recent President of the United States threatening war with North Korea. Which this President did....

I am not sure that President Trump understands we cannot go to war with North Korea! And for that we should be afraid.

But as I said earlier the Nuclear Breakout occurred under Bush W's watch. But it was going to happen sometime. Every single President's policy has failed for decades.

As Obama had his:

Susan Rice concedes Obama-era strategy to curtail North Korea's nuclear program was a 'failure' (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/susan-rice-concedes-obama-era-strategy-to-curtail-north-koreas-nuclear-program-was-a-failure/article/2631225)

While I was never peacenik having skin in the game reshaped my views on war.

I hope this answers your questions on this issue.

COPUFF

[Rockyrd]

Dirt, I went back to find this....

Trump's been in office for about 6 months, Obama did nothing to thwart North Korea's attempt at building nuclear warheads and a rocket program. Now the Liberals want to whine about the chance of a nuclear war and point the finger at Trump. Why weren't they complaining and whining when Obama was in office and doing nothing about the future?

Every past President since Korean War crease fire has had a policy toward the North. I think we can both agree China is a major player in this game. North Korea would have collapsed decades ago if it were not for China.

Correct me if I am wrong but I cannot remember any recent President of the United States threatening war with North Korea. Which this President did....

I am not sure that President Trump understands we cannot go to war with North Korea! And for that we should be afraid.

But as I said earlier the Nuclear Breakout occurred under Bush W's watch. But it going to happen sometime. Every single President's policy has failed for decades.

As Obama had his:

Susan Rice concedes Obama-era strategy to curtail North Korea's nuclear program was a 'failure' (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/susan-rice-concedes-obama-era-strategy-to-curtail-north-koreas-nuclear-program-was-a-failure/article/2631225)

While I was never peacenik having skin in the game reshaped my views on war.

I hope this answers your questions on this issue.

COPUFF

Good post. If we are to single out Obama for any blame, that HAS GOT TO BE EXTENDED back for years covering a number of Presidencies.

Again, those who support Trump blindly see everything that is happening in this world as Obama or Clinton's fault. I see nobody bashing Trump on this at all. He was following Obama policy to the letter from day one.

This is not easy......the shock and problem is to have the United States of America, seemingly, threaten nuclear war. Two individual hotheads yelling across the media sure will not solve it.

I pray for someone to be level headed because nuclear attack by ANYONE...ANYONE..will have consequences that the world will live with for many many years. From what we read, the guy in North Korea is stupid and does not get what it might mean. You hope our leaders are smarter than that.

I cannot get out of my head what Trump's ghost writer said in an interview in New Yorker in JULY OF 2016.

"“I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All | The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all)

Why so drastic.....ONE single nuclear attack has the possibility of a domino effect over the world.

[Rockyrd]

THIS IN DECEMBER 2016

"FAYETTEVILLE, N.C. (Reuters) - President-elect Donald Trump laid out a U.S. military policy on Tuesday that would avoid interventions in foreign conflicts and instead focus heavily on defeating the Islamic State militancy."

Trump lays out non-interventionist U.S. military policy | Reuters (http://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-trump-military-idUSKBN13W06L)

THIS TODAY, A CONTINUATION

"Bridgewater, New Jersey (CNN)President Donald Trump further escalated his rhetorical standoff with North Korea Friday morning, suggesting the US was ready to respond with military force should "
Trump warns North Korea: US military 'locked and loaded' - CNNPolitics (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/10/politics/trump-north-korea/index.html)

THIS ALSO TODAY...

"President Trump on Friday refused to rule out a U.S. military intervention in Venezuela, where civil strife has turned violent.

"I'm not going to rule out a military option," he told reporters at his New Jersey golf club.

“Venezuela is not very far away, and the people are suffering and they’re dying,” he added. “We have many options for Venezuela, including a possibility military option if necessary.”

Trump does not rule out military action in Venezuela | TheHill (http://thehill.com/homenews/administration/346265-trump-does-not-rule-out-military-action-in-venezuela)



These crazy world leaders know the trigger....and he is now having a macho contest with a guy who wants exactly this kind of rhetoric.

[Don Baldwin]

Good post. If we are to single out Obama for any blame, that HAS GOT TO BE EXTENDED back for years covering a number of Presidencies.

Again, those who support Trump blindly see everything that is happening in this world as Obama or Clinton's fault. I see nobody bashing Trump on this at all. He was following Obama policy to the letter from day one.

This is not easy......the shock and problem is to have the United States of America, seemingly, threaten nuclear war. Two individual hotheads yelling across the media sure will not solve it.

I pray for someone to be level headed because nuclear attack by ANYONE...ANYONE..will have consequences that the world will live with for many many years. From what we read, the guy in North Korea is stupid and does not get what it might mean. You hope our leaders are smarter than that.

I cannot get out of my head what Trump's ghost writer said in an interview in New Yorker in JULY OF 2016.

"“I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All | The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all)

Why so drastic.....ONE single nuclear attack has the possibility of a domino effect over the world.

The end of civilization comes when the black/brown minorities have bred all the white people out...when it's just them...TRYING to run the world.

[wjboyer1]

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[dirtbanker]

Good post. If we are to single out Obama for any blame, that HAS GOT TO BE EXTENDED back for years covering a number of Presidencies.

Again, those who support Trump blindly see everything that is happening in this world as Obama or Clinton's fault. I see nobody bashing Trump on this at all. He was following Obama policy to the letter from day one.

This is not easy......the shock and problem is to have the United States of America, seemingly, threaten nuclear war. Two individual hotheads yelling across the media sure will not solve it.

I pray for someone to be level headed because nuclear attack by ANYONE...ANYONE..will have consequences that the world will live with for many many years. From what we read, the guy in North Korea is stupid and does not get what it might mean. You hope our leaders are smarter than that.

I cannot get out of my head what Trump's ghost writer said in an interview in New Yorker in JULY OF 2016.

"“I genuinely believe that if Trump wins and gets the nuclear codes there is an excellent possibility it will lead to the end of civilization.”

Donald Trump’s Ghostwriter Tells All | The New Yorker (http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2016/07/25/donald-trumps-ghostwriter-tells-all)

Why so drastic.....ONE single nuclear attack has the possibility of a domino effect over the world.

Wow this post is enlightening, wipe your chin...

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[dirtbanker]

Dirt, I went back to find this....

Trump's been in office for about 6 months, Obama did nothing to thwart North Korea's attempt at building nuclear warheads and a rocket program. Now the Liberals want to whine about the chance of a nuclear war and point the finger at Trump. Why weren't they complaining and whining when Obama was in office and doing nothing about the future?

Every past President since Korean War crease fire has had a policy toward the North. I think we can both agree China is a major player in this game. North Korea would have collapsed decades ago if it were not for China.

Correct me if I am wrong but I cannot remember any recent President of the United States threatening war with North Korea. Which this President did....

I am not sure that President Trump understands we cannot go to war with North Korea! And for that we should be afraid.

But as I said earlier the Nuclear Breakout occurred under Bush W's watch. But it was going to happen sometime. Every single President's policy has failed for decades.

As Obama had his:

Susan Rice concedes Obama-era strategy to curtail North Korea's nuclear program was a 'failure' (http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/susan-rice-concedes-obama-era-strategy-to-curtail-north-koreas-nuclear-program-was-a-failure/article/2631225)

While I was never peacenik having skin in the game reshaped my views on war.

I hope this answers your questions on this issue.

COPUFFAgain, I ask where was your critique the last 8 years? You had hoped Trump was going to be like Obamma? LOL

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[Rockyrd]

Wow this post is enlightening, wipe your chin...

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The words you emphasize are those of a Trump ghostwriter and is echoed by others who know him well. They are not my words, but we haven't faced these threats until now, have we ?

[dirtbanker]

The words you emphasize are those of a Trump ghostwriter and is echoed by others who know him well. They are not my words, but we haven't faced these threats until now, have we ?No...because NK was still working on thier nuclear warhead program and rocket program prior to this

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[wjboyer1]

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[cologal]

Again, I ask where was your critique the last 8 years? You had hoped Trump was going to be like Obamma? LOL

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Dirt....

I have NOT defended Obama in anyway,
I even included a link to a piece by Susan Rice to said Obama's approach failed! Nor have I attacked Trump I only said he, unlike other Presidents threatened nuclear war against North Korea!

COPUFF......

[bbbbbb]

[QUOTE=Guest]You got something that proves him wrong, feel free to post it.

Obviously Obamma was too busy flaming the racial divide and sucking crooked Hillary's brown hole to deal with NK...If that was not true NK would have never developed the rockets...

Hi,,,,,,,,,,, Obama and Hillary were in the driver's seat for many years, they left this mess for Trump to handle so let's not blame Mr. Trump, he has a lot on his plate and he is trying.
bbbbbb :bowdown:

[mellincf]

I am comfortable with my rhetoric. Trump's been in office for about 6 months, Obama did nothing to thwart North Korea's attempt at building nuclear warheads and a rocket program. Now the Liberals want to whine about the chance of a nuclear war and point the finger at Trump. Why weren't they complaining and whining when Obama was in office and doing nothing about the future?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk Trump needs a good war to distract from his lousy approval ratings and the investigation into how he was laundering money for the Russian mob through his properties. Mueller’s team recently hired Andrew Weissmann, chief of the fraud section of the Justice Department’s Criminal Division, who previously oversaw the high-profile prosecutions of Jeffrey Skilling, Ken Lay, and Andrew Fastow in the 2001 Enron scandal. Weissmann is considered an expert on “fraud, foreign bribery, and organized crime.” Report: Russian mob money helped build Trump business empire | MSNBC (http://www.msnbc.com/brian-williams/watch/report-russian-mob-money-helped-build-trump-business-empire-1002228291948)