How to pay for Texas

[Paper1]

How should this be natural disaster be handled. The state of Texas is expecting the Federal government to print and borrow as much as is necessary to make them whole. The President is rushing down for a photo op with the checkbook. If we take borrowing, or if you prefer stealing, from our grandchildren off the table how would it be resolved?

[Wiotte]

How should this be natural disaster be handled. The state of Texas is expecting the Federal government to print and borrow as much as is necessary to make them whole. The President is rushing down for a photo op with the checkbook. If we take borrowing, or if you prefer stealing, from our grandchildren off the table how would it be resolved?



Sandy cost us 100 billion under Obama. Let's see what DT will appropriate to Texas over time.

[CowBubba]

When trump sees how many Latinos live there he may not approve any funding.

[coralway]

Since the governors of Texas have publicly stated many times that they want the federal government to stay out of their state, why should they get anything?

The Feds should honor the wishes of Texas and let them take care of their own.

Instead of crying for federal aid, maybe the Texas authorities can get Joel Osteen to open his mega church and help his flock.

[MDLNB]

How should this be natural disaster be handled. The state of Texas is expecting the Federal government to print and borrow as much as is necessary to make them whole. The President is rushing down for a photo op with the checkbook. If we take borrowing, or if you prefer stealing, from our grandchildren off the table how would it be resolved?

I don't think that is a very fair or reasonable statement. If he didn't run down there, you would be complaining that he was another Bush. Even the Democrats interviewed are saying he is doing an outstanding job, supporting this catastrophe.

I understand how you feel about the money spent on these disaster for relief, but what would you suggest? I bet even with the money that will be spent, Trump will manage to get our money's worth. He is good at negotiating the cost down. I doubt anyone can dispute that. I agree that our grandchildren are in for a rough ride when it comes to national debt. However, NO PRESIDENT since Eisenhower has paid down on the National Debt. That's because you have to have a revenue surplus in order to do that, and it just doesn't happen.

[Don Baldwin]

I don't think that is a very fair or reasonable statement. If he didn't run down there, you would be complaining that he was another Bush. Even the Democrats interviewed are saying he is doing an outstanding job, supporting this catastrophe.

I understand how you feel about the money spent on these disaster for relief, but what would you suggest? I bet even with the money that will be spent, Trump will manage to get our money's worth. He is good at negotiating the cost down. I doubt anyone can dispute that. I agree that our grandchildren are in for a rough ride when it comes to national debt. However, NO PRESIDENT since Eisenhower has paid down on the National Debt. That's because you have to have a revenue surplus in order to do that, and it just doesn't happen.

They're in for a rough ride...especially your granddaughters daughters. They will live in Mexico II. Have you been to a border town lately? Picture ALL of America looking like that.

We borrowed and gave it to invaders who are/have successfully bred us out. Congratulations...suckers.

When the women started getting a say...we became too nice...and they took advantage of it.

[wjboyer1]

Texas lawmakers, now bracing for Harvey, voted against Sandy spending | Weather | Dallas News (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/25/texas-lawmakers-now-bracing-harvey-voted-sandy-spending)

[MDLNB]

They're in for a rough ride...especially your granddaughters daughters. They will live in Mexico II. Have you been to a border town lately? Picture ALL of America looking like that.

We borrowed and gave it to invaders who are/have successfully bred us out. Congratulations...suckers.

When the women started getting a say...we became too nice...and they took advantage of it.

Sorry Don, but I've lived in different countries and I happen to like almost every one I met in South America. And I have had many working for me and they did excellent work. I like their food too.
On the other hand, I've known some very lazy Americans that did sloppy work.

Look, I can't argue you stats and facts. All I can do is relate to you, my experience. On the other hand, I do know a few that were victims of Affirmative Action.

[Don Baldwin]

Sorry Don, but I've lived in different countries and I happen to like almost every one I met in South America. And I have had many working for me and they did excellent work. I like their food too.
On the other hand, I've known some very lazy Americans that did sloppy work.

Look, I can't argue you stats and facts. All I can do is relate to you, my experience. On the other hand, I do know a few that were victims of Affirmative Action.

But you came back...you came back to America...the good 'ol USA.

Soon...you won't have that option. The good 'ol USA will be Mexico II. And NOT as pleasant as wherever you were in S America.

I've personally been to several C American countries...Belize, Honduras, Mexico...and not JUST the tourist areas. I couldn't wait to get back to "civilization". The problem is..."civilization" is waning...civilization is fading...as THEY...the uncivilized...become the majority...and begin to run things. America won't be America any more...it's be like visiting Mexico.

[Rockyrd]

Certainly open for discussion....

" Two deputy director nominees at FEMA still await confirmation. Mr. Trump has not yet nominated someone to lead the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration, which includes the National Weather Service and the National Hurricane Center. And the center itself is in the midst of a director search, after its last director, Rick Knabb, left in May to become an on-air expert at the Weather Channel.

The administration’s proposed budget cuts to FEMA and NOAA were likewise attracting renewed attention on Friday, as the agencies dominated the news.

The administration has recommended slashing FEMA programs and grants that help cities and states prepare for natural disasters to the tune of $667 million. That includes cuts to the Pre-Disaster Mitigation Program, which provides funding states and cities to better withstand the impact of hurricanes and coastal storms."



Trump Administration Faces Hurricane Harvey, Its First Major Natural Disaster - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/08/25/us/politics/trump-hurricane-texas-fema.html?mcubz=0)

The budget cuts may need to be scrubbed for next year and possibly further in the future.

Tough to see disasters become political footballs, but....

"Texas Republican Senators John Cornyn and Ted Cruz — and Vice President Mike Pence — in a political bind, forcing them to choose between quick aid and their own past demands for spending cuts to offset emergency disaster funds."

"Cruz and Cornyn voted against the final Sandy aid package. During that debate, they voted for an amendment that would have cut domestic spending to pay for the emergency funding. Cruz at the time said that not all the funds were being allocated properly. "

Hurricane Harvey Could Also Cause a Political Storm | Fortune.com (http://fortune.com/2017/08/26/hurricane-harvey-relief-aid-politics/)

This is one case, albeit not the clearest, where we need not a divider but someone who can bring congress together and put the folks in Texas first.

[MDLNB]

But you came back...you came back to America...the good 'ol USA.

Soon...you won't have that option. The good 'ol USA will be Mexico II. And NOT as pleasant as wherever you were in S America.

I've personally been to several C American countries...Belize, Honduras, Mexico...and not JUST the tourist areas. I couldn't wait to get back to "civilization". The problem is..."civilization" is waning...civilization is fading...as THEY...the uncivilized...become the majority...and begin to run things. America won't be America any more...it's be like visiting Mexico.

Of course, I came back to the U.S. Don. The USA is the best in the world. There is NOTHING in those other countries I would want here. They can all have their multiple forms of Socialism, but just keep it there. Americans are simplistic and in my opinion very naive when it comes to their sudden fad for socialism. Our parents didn't fight communism and socialism just for the heck of it. Neither did we, regardless of the politicians motivation.

[cologal]

Sandy cost us 100 billion under Obama. Let's see what DT will appropriate to Texas over time.

Care to give us a link to where that figure came from?

Or did you mean MILLION instead of BILLION?

COPUFF OUT WEST IN THE MILE HIGH STATE!

[Paper1]

I don't think that is a very fair or reasonable statement. If he didn't run down there, you would be complaining that he was another Bush. Even the Democrats interviewed are saying he is doing an outstanding job, supporting this catastrophe.

I understand how you feel about the money spent on these disaster for relief, but what would you suggest? I bet even with the money that will be spent, Trump will manage to get our money's worth. He is good at negotiating the cost down. I doubt anyone can dispute that. I agree that our grandchildren are in for a rough ride when it comes to national debt. However, NO PRESIDENT since Eisenhower has paid down on the National Debt. That's because you have to have a revenue surplus in order to do that, and it just doesn't happen.
What I would suggest is raising taxes across the board to pay for this and also the 16 year rat hole in the Middle East. Everyone would pay more attention as I suspect you might. IMO

[AJ32162]

What I would suggest is raising taxes across the board to pay for this and also the 16 year rat hole in the Middle East. Everyone would pay more attention as I suspect you might. IMO

How much more are YOU willing to pay?

[Don Baldwin]

Of course, I came back to the U.S. Don. The USA is the best in the world. There is NOTHING in those other countries I would want here. They can all have their multiple forms of Socialism, but just keep it there. Americans are simplistic and in my opinion very naive when it comes to their sudden fad for socialism. Our parents didn't fight communism and socialism just for the heck of it. Neither did we, regardless of the politicians motivation.

It WAS the best in the world...now it's #25.

The PEOPLE coming here ARE bringing their home countries culture with them. That is why the border counties are all like Mexico. In 20 years the whole country will begin to resemble Mexico...because Mexican PEOPLE are becoming the majority here.

No...it will come here too...that's WHY they're here because of our generous socialized welfare system. While whites can't afford a child...minorities make a profit form them.

Socialism comes from women and minorities...both gain from it.


How much more are YOU willing to pay?

How much are they willing to borrow?

[Paper1]

How much more are YOU willing to pay?

Yes I am willing to pay more as I know if that happened we would have a real balanced budget before the 2018 elections. Voters today don't give a rat's butt about out of control spending as it costs nothing, no pain or downside except for future generation. IMO

[Don Baldwin]

Yes I am willing to pay more as I know if that happened we would have a real balanced budget before the 2018 elections. Voters today don't give a rat's butt about out of control spending as it costs nothing, no pain or downside except for future generation. IMO

It'll NEVER be paid off...we will collapse before it's paid off. It'll get larger and larger and larger. I'll be close to 25-30 trillion when Trump leaves office.

That's the presidents jobs...to get the taxpayer to WANT to pay for various programs. The money eventually ending up in the pockets of the very wealthy. The poor aren't savers...they're spenders...that's why marketers target them and not you and I. It's why people of color are in most commercials, play the "smart one", the boss, the rich guy...and the white people serve them. They're trying to capture THEM as customers, not us. Because THEY are the new majority and the government gives half of them free money to spend.

[Paper1]

What would happen? Would the US collapse if it had to balance spending and taxes? Trump's performance regarding this disaster is beinging judged by how much he can deliver with an empty checking account, the same model Bush used with Middle East war and Obama used with financial collapse. Now it's Texas turn. I'm still looking forward to a tax break and lower medical costs (sarcasm). Stock market up, i wonder why. What would happen to market if we balanced the federal budget. That would be a long term good thing but my guess is market would tank badly. Maybe I'm over stating but I can see no way this can turnout well.

[Don Baldwin]

What would happen? Would the US collapse if it had to balance spending and taxes? Trump's performance regarding this disaster is beinging judged by how much he can deliver with an empty checking account, the same model Bush used with Middle East war and Obama used with financial collapse. Now it's Texas turn. I'm still looking forward to a tax break and lower medical costs (sarcasm). Stock market up, i wonder why. What would happen to market if we balanced the federal budget. That would be a long term good thing but my guess is market would tank badly. Maybe I'm over stating but I can see no way this can turnout well.

They borrow about 25%...over a $ trillion out of a $4 trillion + budget.

What are you going to cut? Welfare is over a $ trillion. The military is over a $ trillion. Healthcare is over a $ trillion. Take 1/3 from each? That's a lot of people losing jobs.

[mellincf]

Texas lawmakers, now bracing for Harvey, voted against Sandy spending | Weather | Dallas News (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/25/texas-lawmakers-now-bracing-harvey-voted-sandy-spending) Texas keeps expecting us to bail them out while lying about what the oil companies are doing to us and failing to prepare despite years of warnings from climate scientists that Houston was a sitting duck. There was a great article today saying ExxonMobil, Chevron, Koch Industries, ConocoPhillips, Halliburton, and other oil giants doing your business in Texas: You put up the first $25 billion in Houston disaster relief. Call it compensation for your emissions. Sachs: Texas Gov. Greg Abbott, you need to resign - CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/08/29/opinions/hurricane-harvey-abbott-needs-to-resign-sachs/index.html)

[mellincf]

It WAS the best in the world...now it's #25.

The PEOPLE coming here ARE bringing their home countries culture with them. That is why the border counties are all like Mexico. In 20 years the whole country will begin to resemble Mexico...because Mexican PEOPLE are becoming the majority here.

No...it will come here too...that's WHY they're here because of our generous socialized welfare system. While whites can't afford a child...minorities make a profit form them.

Socialism comes from women and minorities...both gain from it.




How much are they willing to borrow? Now you're REALLY making me angry. I'm from New Mexico, a beautiful state filled with fabulous culture, diversity, history, and people. We are proudly multicultural. My friends speak Spanish with their families and flawless English with me. They are smart, educated, have good jobs and are hard workers, and they are patriotic AMERICAN CITIZENS. Get off your smug assumption that your pale skin somehow makes you better than my friends.

[cologal]

Texas lawmakers, now bracing for Harvey, voted against Sandy spending | Weather | Dallas News (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/25/texas-lawmakers-now-bracing-harvey-voted-sandy-spending)

You should have seen Ted Cruz trying to explain away that vote! :a20:🍿

[Wiotte]

You should have seen Ted Cruz trying to explain away that vote! :a20:[emoji897]



Payback is a muther fuc ker.

[cologal]

Texas lawmakers, now bracing for Harvey, voted against Sandy spending | Weather | Dallas News (https://www.dallasnews.com/news/weather/2017/08/25/texas-lawmakers-now-bracing-harvey-voted-sandy-spending)

You should have seen Ted Cruz trying to explain away that vote! :a20:🍿

[Don Baldwin]

Now you're REALLY making me angry. I'm from New Mexico, a beautiful state filled with fabulous culture, diversity, history, and people. We are proudly multicultural. My friends speak Spanish with their families and flawless English with me. They are smart, educated, have good jobs and are hard workers, and they are patriotic AMERICAN CITIZENS. Get off your smug assumption that your pale skin somehow makes you better than my friends.

New Mexico:

"Overall Rank Out of 50 #46"

About New Mexico (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-mexico)

"NM again ranks 49th in child well-being, 50th in education"

NM again ranks 49th in child well-being, 50th in education (http://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/education/2016/06/21/nm-again-ranks-49th-child-well-being-50th-education/86140070/)

"New Mexico ranked 49th in national education report"

New Mexico ranked 49th in national education report | Northern New Mexico Education | santafenewmexican.com (http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/education/new-mexico-ranked-th-in-national-education-report/article_f44b5730-26d1-544a-bab9-b375a984f6ae.html)

Yes...a wonderfully successful place...NOT!

America's futures and some can't wait.

Stop with your tunnel vision, only seeing what you want to see.

[Chi-Town]

We'll be paying for Houston for a long time into the future.


Houston drainage grid 'so obsolete it's just unbelievable' - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/houston-drainage-grid-obsolete-unbelievable-49497953)

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[Wiotte]

We'll be paying for Houston for a long time into the future.


Houston drainage grid 'so obsolete it's just unbelievable' - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/houston-drainage-grid-obsolete-unbelievable-49497953)

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Disaster recovery bonds could be issued and backed up with the full faith and credit of the lone star state. Texans always pride themselves as independent. We'll see how this all plays out.

[Don Baldwin]

We'll be paying for Houston for a long time into the future.


Houston drainage grid 'so obsolete it's just unbelievable' - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Technology/wireStory/houston-drainage-grid-obsolete-unbelievable-49497953)

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And WHO was going to pay to upgrade it? Nobody would ave expected or planned for the rains they got...what up to 5 ft of it?

You'd be laughed out of the place if you suggested a drainage system that would handle 5 ft of rain within a week.

[Don Baldwin]

Disaster recovery bonds could be issued and backed up with the full faith and credit of the lone star state. Texans always pride themselves as independent. We'll see how this all plays out.

That was BEFORE Texas became a minority majority.

[mellincf]

On Galveston Island, there is the Galveston National Laboratory, which is part of the University of Texas Medical Branch. This laboratory contains some of the most deadly biological agents found in the known world. It contain several Bio-Safety Level 4 labs, which are basically the places where plagues are studied. And here's the thing—nobody knows what's going on there at the moment.

[mellincf]

And WHO was going to pay to upgrade it? Nobody would ave expected or planned for the rains they got...what up to 5 ft of it?

You'd be laughed out of the place if you suggested a drainage system that would handle 5 ft of rain within a week. Remember it's YOUR money going to help all those climate deniers in Houston. Congress is going to shovel billions to people who wouldn't listen to the scientists who told them years ago Houston was a sitting duck and they needed to stop building on floodplains.

[dirtbanker]

New Mexico:

"Overall Rank Out of 50 #46"

About New Mexico (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-mexico)

"NM again ranks 49th in child well-being, 50th in education"

NM again ranks 49th in child well-being, 50th in education (http://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/education/2016/06/21/nm-again-ranks-49th-child-well-being-50th-education/86140070/)

"New Mexico ranked 49th in national education report"

New Mexico ranked 49th in national education report | Northern New Mexico Education | santafenewmexican.com (http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/education/new-mexico-ranked-th-in-national-education-report/article_f44b5730-26d1-544a-bab9-b375a984f6ae.html)

Yes...a wonderfully successful place...NOT!

America's futures and some can't wait.

Stop with your tunnel vision, only seeing what you want to see.

Yep that's a $hit hole...

[Wiotte]

New Mexico:

"Overall Rank Out of 50 #46"

About New Mexico (https://www.usnews.com/news/best-states/new-mexico)

"NM again ranks 49th in child well-being, 50th in education"

NM again ranks 49th in child well-being, 50th in education (http://www.lcsun-news.com/story/news/education/2016/06/21/nm-again-ranks-49th-child-well-being-50th-education/86140070/)

"New Mexico ranked 49th in national education report"

New Mexico ranked 49th in national education report | Northern New Mexico Education | santafenewmexican.com (http://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/education/new-mexico-ranked-th-in-national-education-report/article_f44b5730-26d1-544a-bab9-b375a984f6ae.html)

Yes...a wonderfully successful place...NOT!

America's futures and some can't wait.

Stop with your tunnel vision, only seeing what you want to see.



I do enjoy the backdrop scenery while watching the Breaking Bad series.

[Paper1]

Remember it's YOUR money going to help all those climate deniers in Houston. Congress is going to shovel billions to people who wouldn't listen to the scientists who told them years ago Houston was a sitting duck and they needed to stop building on floodplains.

Actually it is not our taxes paying for the largesse coming. Like the 16 year war it is just going on our grand kids tab, that way everyone is happy.

[Don Baldwin]

Actually it is not our taxes paying for the largesse coming. Like the 16 year war it is just going on our grand kids tab, that way everyone is happy.

They won't pay it back either...

[MDLNB]

Can anyone speak Greek?

[Paper1]

They won't pay it back either...

I agree they will not be able to paid the debt but the impact of defaulting will be devastating on their lives and America's role in world.

[Sandtrap328]

I was just listening to some Republican Clown Congressman talking about emergency relief funding to be voted on in the House as soon as Congress gets back to Washington.

It was also put on the screen that 22 Texan Representatives voted "NO" for emergency funding for the Superstorm Sandy disaster.

Well, it makes one wonder how the the memories are for New York and New Jersey Representatives.

Payback can be a bitch!

[Wiotte]

I was just listening to some Republican Clown Congressman talking about emergency relief funding to be voted on in the House as soon as Congress gets back to Washington.



It was also put on the screen that 22 Texan Representatives voted "NO" for emergency funding for the Superstorm Sandy disaster.



Well, it makes one wonder how the the memories are for New York and New Jersey Representatives.



Payback can be a bitch!



[emoji1303]