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mellincf
09-01-2017, 01:01 PM
Want to talk emails? How about all the ones between Trump associates and Russian oligarchs in the middle of the campaign? Emails showing that Sater, who once was a “senior adviser” to Trump, and Cohen, Trump’s personal lawyer, worked in 2015 and early 2016 to complete an agreement for a Trump Tower in Moscow, efforts contradicting the president’s many claims that he has “nothing to do with Russia.” As Trump praised Russian President Vladimir Putin on the campaign trail in early 2016, Cohen emailed Putin’s spokesman to ask for Putin’s help reviving discussions with Russian partners on the project. Sater’s emails boasted that the deal would help Trump get elected. Cohen and Sater’s emails were among a large trove of documents the Trump Organization turned over to congressional investigators this week. As we learn more about Trump’s Russian dealings, his actions in trying to shut down the investigation become more understandable.

dirtbanker
09-01-2017, 01:08 PM
Hi Mell in Central Florida - Do you have any first hand knowledge or evidence of Trump violating the law??

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rubicon
09-01-2017, 01:15 PM
This circular thinking ,complaining, and accusing about Trump is a sign of pure laziness, an obvious deflection because the person lacks understanding concerning national issues and quite frankly annoying.

Personal Best Regards:

Lottoguy
09-01-2017, 02:25 PM
Felix Sater has been described as the Forrest Gump of this investigation. In almost every key meeting, email or phone call his name comes up all the time. Mueller has so many cards in his deck now. Even the IRS has joined in.

ColdNoMore
09-01-2017, 02:53 PM
This circular thinking ,complaining, and accusing about Trump is a sign of pure laziness, an obvious deflection because the person lacks understanding concerning national issues and quite frankly annoying.

Personal Best Regards:

Says the scumbag who constantly plagiarizes...other people's thoughts & writings. :1rotfl: :1rotfl:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

dirtbanker
09-01-2017, 03:08 PM
How about you (unt, you got any first hand knowledge or evidence of Trump violating the law?

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cologal
09-01-2017, 04:46 PM
How about you (unt, you got any first hand knowledge or evidence of Trump violating the law?

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I realize it is hard to see that someone you believed in seems, at least, so far to be a disappointment.

But in point of fact yes President Trump has NOT divested his interests nor put them into a blind trust which is a requirement aka the Emoluments Clause. The Trump sons were supposed to able separate, for example, the foreign guests, at the hotel in Washington. Which by the way he, by law, isn't even allowed to own as President.

COPUFF.....

ColdNoMore
09-01-2017, 05:33 PM
I realize it is hard to see that someone you believed in seems, at least, so far to be a disappointment.

But in point of fact yes President Trump has NOT divested his interests nor put them into a blind trust which is a requirement aka the Emoluments Clause. The Trump sons were supposed to able separate, for example, the foreign guests, at the hotel in Washington. Which by the way he, by law, isn't even allowed to own as President.

COPUFF.....

You're being way too kind.

Chump has been more like an...unmitigated disaster for our country. :oops:

Love2Swim
09-02-2017, 07:35 AM
The screws are tightening. Getting the NYS Attorney General involved is crucial, because now they can pursue criminal indictments against Manafort and Trump won't be able to pardon him because he doesn't have jurisdiction over state crimes. This will give them leverage to roll Manafort to save himself, which seems pretty likely, and the chips will fall as they may. There is so much material for criminal wrongdoing - crimes directly related to the election — if the Trump team engaged in a criminal conspiracy to help hack Hillary Clinton’s email (stealing documents is illegal) or violated campaign finance laws by soliciting help from a foreign source, for example. The second kind is crimes committed during the investigation itself: witness intimidation, perjury, obstruction of justice, and the like. So far, many of the emails seem damming, especially those of Trump Jr. And the FBI raiding Manafort's home in the early morning hours, is a true sign that Trump's cohort is in deep trouble. Adding in the Comey firing, Flynn's ties to Russia, Kushner's Russia ties, Trump's own business dealings with Russia, there is a clear possibility that the investigation will ultimately end Trump's presidency.

Don Baldwin
09-02-2017, 07:51 AM
The screws are tightening. Getting the NYS Attorney General involved is crucial, because now they can pursue criminal indictments against Manafort and Trump won't be able to pardon him because he doesn't have jurisdiction over state crimes. This will give them leverage to roll Manafort to save himself, which seems pretty likely, and the chips will fall as they may. There is so much material for criminal wrongdoing - crimes directly related to the election — if the Trump team engaged in a criminal conspiracy to help hack Hillary Clinton’s email (stealing documents is illegal) or violated campaign finance laws by soliciting help from a foreign source, for example. The second kind is crimes committed during the investigation itself: witness intimidation, perjury, obstruction of justice, and the like. So far, many of the emails seem damming, especially those of Trump Jr. And the FBI raiding Manafort's home in the early morning hours, is a true sign that Trump's cohort is in deep trouble. Adding in the Comey firing, Flynn's ties to Russia, Kushner's Russia ties, Trump's own business dealings with Russia, there is a clear possibility that the investigation will ultimately end Trump's presidency.

And you can't wait.

Liberals...never take no for an answer...ALWAYS have to have it their way. When they lose they have tantrums like children and scream and yell until the adults relent and give them their way.

mellincf
09-02-2017, 04:51 PM
And you can't wait.

]Liberals...never take no for an answer...ALWAYS have to have it their way. When they lose they have tantrums like children and scream and yell until the adults relent and give them their way.[/COLOR] Is this really your reply to a very serious situation in which the President of the United States stands accused of corruption and collusion with a foreign power? Your corrupt President has been laundering Russian mob money for years, that's why he won't release his finances and why he is so scared of the press. Donald Trump’s deep connections to dirty Russian money: The trail leads back more than 30 years - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2017/07/14/donald-trumps-deep-connections-to-dirty-russian-money-its-a-trail-that-leads-back-more-than-30-years/)

dirtbanker
09-02-2017, 07:59 PM
Is this really your reply to a very serious situation in which the President of the United States stands accused of corruption and collusion with a foreign power? Your corrupt President has been laundering Russian mob money for years, that's why he won't release his finances and why he is so scared of the press. Donald Trump’s deep connections to dirty Russian money: The trail leads back more than 30 years - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2017/07/14/donald-trumps-deep-connections-to-dirty-russian-money-its-a-trail-that-leads-back-more-than-30-years/)Key word = accused...no proof.

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ColdNoMore
09-02-2017, 09:01 PM
Key word = accused...no proof.



Wrong again. ;)



The "key" word is....YET! :D




Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

dirtbanker
09-02-2017, 09:13 PM
Wrong again. ;)



The "key" word is....YET! :D




Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Keep hoping stupid (unt!

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Wiotte
09-02-2017, 09:22 PM
Justice

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Lottoguy
09-02-2017, 09:40 PM
Only a matter of time for Trump. Those who say where is the evidence, are only kidding themselves. Just check out the time lines and you can see how the dots connect. Mueller is following the money. Trump constantly acts like he is hiding something. Felix Sater and Bayrock will be his downfall. Nobody is going to jail for Trump. Because they know he wouldn't do it for them.

MDLNB
09-03-2017, 04:52 AM
The investigation must be getting close to Hillary. Why else would she be asking her lawyer about a plea bargain option? Funny how Comey was drafting a letter exonerating Hillary before the investigation was even over. Nope, no corruption in D.C. Nothing to see here, folks. Nope.

Don Baldwin
09-03-2017, 07:02 AM
Is this really your reply to a very serious situation in which the President of the United States stands accused of corruption and collusion with a foreign power? Your corrupt President has been laundering Russian mob money for years, that's why he won't release his finances and why he is so scared of the press. Donald Trump’s deep connections to dirty Russian money: The trail leads back more than 30 years - Salon.com (http://www.salon.com/2017/07/14/donald-trumps-deep-connections-to-dirty-russian-money-its-a-trail-that-leads-back-more-than-30-years/)

The investigation must be getting close to Hillary. Why else would she be asking her lawyer about a plea bargain option? Funny how Comey was drafting a letter exonerating Hillary before the investigation was even over. Nope, no corruption in D.C. Nothing to see here, folks. Nope.

It's ALL lies and corruption...that is why they must ALL go. The D and R parties AND everyone in them.

mellincf
09-03-2017, 10:34 AM
The investigation must be getting close to Hillary. Why else would she be asking her lawyer about a plea bargain option? Funny how Comey was drafting a letter exonerating Hillary before the investigation was even over. Nope, no corruption in D.C. Nothing to see here, folks. Nope. Why are people still calling Hillary “corrupt” when it is obvious that it was all Russian propaganda? If any of that were really true, Republicans, who now control the entire government, would be doing something. It is Trump who was asking about plea bargains and pardons. It’s not Hillary the Republicans are investigating, it is Trump. Ever notice that?
Fear, Panic, and Talk of Pardons as Trump Weighs Total War on Mueller | Vanity Fair (http://www.vanityfair.com/news/2017/07/fear-panic-and-talk-of-pardons-as-trump-weighs-total-war-on-mueller?mbid=social_facebook)

mellincf
09-05-2017, 11:32 AM
People are desperately trying to trash Comey because, if Trump fired Comey to impede an investigation that might implicate his own campaign or administration, that is obstruction of justice, a federal crime. Trump admitted on air to NBC News' Lester Holt that he had fired Comey because of "this Russia thing." Trump was warned by the White House counsel, McGahn, that this was a problematic step and decided to do it anyway. It's possible the public will eventually hear what McGahn told the president. If he said anything along the lines of, 'There's potential criminal liability if you shut down this investigation,' that would be extraordinarily powerful evidence against Trump. Miller and anyone else involved in Comey's firing — or drafting the letter — may be accessories or co-conspirators to that crime as well.

mellincf
09-07-2017, 08:19 PM
Democratic Senator Coons wrote a memo:"Below is a statute to keep in mind in regards to Donald Trump Jr.'s testimony today," then he simply laid out the legal statute for lying to Congress.

ColdNoMore
09-07-2017, 08:38 PM
Democratic Senator Coons wrote a memo:"Below is a statute to keep in mind in regards to Donald Trump Jr.'s testimony today," then he simply laid out the legal statute for lying to Congress.

Chump Sr. must be apoplectic about how dumb his boy is...and the hole he's digging for himself and 'daddy.' :D

mellincf
09-08-2017, 02:51 PM
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's team has approached the White House about interviewing staffers who were aboard Air Force One when the initial misleading statement about Donald Trump Jr.'s meeting with a Russian lawyer at Trump Tower was crafted, three sources familiar with the conversations said.

The special counsel's discussions with the White House are the latest indication that Mueller's investigators are interested in the response to the Trump Tower meeting. Mueller wants to know how the statement aboard Air Force One was put together, whether information was intentionally left out and who was involved, two of the sources said. Mueller's questions could go to the issue of intent and possible efforts to conceal information during an obstruction of justice investigation. The answers to Mueller's questions also could illuminate the level of anxiety surrounding the meeting and the decision-making that followed. If Donald Trump knowingly crafted a statement about the meeting with the Russians that he knew to be false, that would certainly appear to be evidence he was trying to obstruct justice and the Mueller investigation.

mellincf
09-08-2017, 09:06 PM
Hope Hicks—the longtime Trump aide who is currently interim White House communications director—likely has information that will interest Mueller regarding Donald Trump Jr.’s initial claim that his meeting with the Kremlin-linked lawyer Natalia Veselnitskaya was just about adoption. Hick’s potential targeting by Mueller also underscores the aggressive direction his probe is increasingly taking. Outside of direct family members, she is, perhaps, closest to Trump. Hicks was on the Air Force One flight back to the United States after the G-20 summit and played a role in drafting the statement on Trump Jr.’s June 2016 meeting between Veselnitskaya and Jared Kushner, Paul Manafort, and Trump Jr.
That statement, which was put together by senior White House officials—including the president himself—turned out to be wildly misleading. Hicks reportedly encouraged a more transparent initial approach in describing the facts of the Trump Tower meeting. But she was ultimately overruled. When The New York Times first reported the existence of the meeting, a statement in Trump Jr.’s name downplayed its significance.

mellincf
09-09-2017, 04:18 PM
Now that Facebook is no longer denying it, everybody involved, except the Trump campaign, admits to exactly what Russia did here. Can we now look at what they did to see if they had help? If the Republican-led congressional investigations aren't looking into that now, they should have to explain why they're not. Because now there's really no more disagreement about what happened here. The only question is whether there were American confederates involved, and that's a very investigatable thing. The law says you can't spend foreign money to influence U.S. Elections. Even on Facebook ads. This is direct evidence—confirmed by Facebook—of a discreet, clear crime committed in the course of the Russian attack on our election. But it's a crime. Clearly. And if any American knew that crime was happening, if any American was part of the effort to make that happen, that American could absolutely be criminally charged on that matter.

mellincf
09-11-2017, 06:03 PM
President Trump's former chief of staff Reince Priebus and White House counsel Don McGahn have reportedly both hired a lawyer amid the investigation into Russian election meddling. The news comes after a recent report that special counsel Robert Mueller told the White House his team will seek to interview six senior and former aides to Trump as part of the federal investigation into the Russian election meddling and possible Trump campaign involvement.

dirtbanker
09-11-2017, 07:08 PM
President Trump's former chief of staff Reince Priebus and White House counsel Don McGahn have reportedly both hired a lawyer amid the investigation into Russian election meddling. The news comes after a recent report that special counsel Robert Mueller told the White House his team will seek to interview six senior and former aides to Trump as part of the federal investigation into the Russian election meddling and possible Trump campaign involvement.Wow Mell, thanks for the update on people hiring attorneys for legal inquiries! I am surprised they just don't convict someone if they hire an attorney?? It would be less taxing on the ecology, all those lights and air conditioning wasted on people that claim they did nothing wrong, but yet hire an attorney!!

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mellincf
09-12-2017, 07:49 AM
Members of President Donald Trump’s legal team wanted Trump’s son-in-law, Jared Kushner, out of his White House adviser role in June, over concerns about Kushner’s dealings with Russian officials, The Wall Street Journal reports. Those lawyers were reportedly concerned that Kushner would be a liability in special counsel Robert Mueller’s investigation into the Trump administration’s alleged ties to Russia, specifically after it was revealed that Kushner failed to mention four meetings with Russian officials on his security-clearance forms.

mellincf
09-12-2017, 03:31 PM
RT, the Kremlin-backed TV network formerly known as Russia Today, has revealed that one of its American affiliates has been ordered by the US government to register as a “foreign agent” under anti-propaganda laws. RT and Sputnik are both operated by companies funded by the Russian government and both were named in the US intelligence report that in January accused Vladimir Putin of ordering a campaign to influence the US Presidential election. State-owned Russian media made increasingly favourable comments about Trump while consistently offering negative coverage of Clinton.

In an angry online story condemning the move, RT said the US Justice Department had sent a letter ordering the company that supplies all services for the RT America channel to register under the Foreign Agents Registration Act (FARA). Russia Today affiliate ordered by US government to register as 'foreign agent' under anti-propaganda laws | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/russia-today-sputnik-us-foreign-agent-rt-news-affliate-kremlin-moscow-putin-anti-propaganda-fara-a7943131.html)

mellincf
09-12-2017, 07:22 PM
Apparently under the misapprehension that Trump is free to do his bidding, Russian President Vladimir Putin proposed a reset of relations between the United States and Russia across all major branches of government. According to documents detailing the proposal, a Russian diplomat asked the U.S. State Department for an immediate restoration of the diplomatic, military, and intelligence channels that had been severed after Russia intervened in Ukraine and Syria. The documents reportedly show a proposal for several meetings between the two countries to discuss areas of mutual interest. “It just ignores everything that caused the relationship to deteriorate and pretends that the election interference and the Ukraine crisis never happened,” said Angela Stent, a former national intelligence officer on Russia during the George W. Bush administration. “When the Russians submitted this proposal, they were under the impression that Trump would do what he said he would do: Make a deal with Putin and normalize relations.” Reuters reported earlier this year that the FBI is examining whether Gorkov suggested to Kushner that Russian banks could finance Trump associates' business ventures if US sanctions were lifted or relaxed.

dirtbanker
09-12-2017, 07:27 PM
Mell is like the wackadoodle, happy to talk to themselves...

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mellincf
09-13-2017, 10:37 AM
Mell is like the wackadoodle, happy to talk to themselves...

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk Actually I am using this as an online diary. The timeline will be interesting, whatever the outcome. That's what happens when one is an historian. And maybe I'll be able, someday, to write a book. If this turns out as I think it will, it certainly would be the scandal of the century. Nine months, nine prominent Russians dead - CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html)

CowBubba
09-13-2017, 10:44 AM
I see the investigation as a way too prove trumps criminal activity. Lock him up!

8notes
09-13-2017, 12:21 PM
I see the investigation as a way to prove trumps criminal activity. Lock him up!

:coolsmiley:

mellincf
09-13-2017, 08:03 PM
Republicans with close links to the White House increasingly believe that special counsel Robert Mueller is “going for the kill” in his investigation into links between President Donald Trump and Russia, according to a report from Axios Tuesday. Members of the GOP are said to have come to that stark conclusion based on Mueller’s hiring of lawyers experienced in dealing with money laundering crimes and the Mafia, as well as the intensity of his pursuit of both witnesses and evidence. Trump has previously warned that investigation of his financial dealings is a red line that Mueller should not cross. But that is thought to be exactly what Mueller is doing, including looking into a proposal made during the 2016 campaign to build a Trump Tower in Moscow. Trump was lying when he tweeted, shortly before his inauguration, that “I HAVE NOTHING TO DO WITH RUSSIA — NO DEALS, NO LOANS, NO NOTHING!” The truth is on the same day he participated in a GOP candidates’ debate, he signed a letter of intent for the Moscow Trump Tower project.

mellincf
09-13-2017, 08:12 PM
Despite Trump’s repeated insistence that he has been told he is not personally under investigation, the president is possibly facing very real personal consequences. Based on conversations with White House aides, Axios says that Mueller is narrowing in on a possible charge of obstruction of justice against the president. At the moment, speculation is swirling about the original draft letter Trump wrote regarding his reasons for firing Director Comey. The "angry, meandering" draft White House justification for firing Comey — which was never released, but obtained by Mueller — could be used as evidence of Trump's unvarnished thinking when venting to staff. It is no secret that Trump wanted Comey to drop all investigations into any evidence of Russia's interference in the election. Firing Comey to stop such an investigation is prima facie evidence of obstruction of justice.

mellincf
09-13-2017, 08:26 PM
Regardless of the obstruction of justice investigation, I believe the real story is in the finances. Trump is known not to "sweat the details" and is uninterested in reading the fine print. The funding of his many properties is tangled and difficult to follow, but Mueller has hired experts in fraud, foreign bribery, and organized crime. The New Yorker Magazine has done an excellent job of untangling a few of Trump's questionable deals. Trump’s Business of Corruption | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption)

Donald Trump’s Worst Deal | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/03/13/donald-trumps-worst-deal)

mellincf
09-14-2017, 06:42 PM
As investigators try to figure out how Russia carried out its election interference, they’re asking how they happened to identify the right voters to bombard with the right messages, and how they got access to that kind of information. Using email, Facebook and Twitter, political advertising can be tailored very precisely: individual messaging for individual voters. Russian bots were targeting Clinton voters at the precinct level to suppress their vote with fake news. The Congressional committee is interested in determining how the Russians knew which voters to target with their disinformation campaign. Investigations are probing not just Russia’s role but whether Moscow had help from the Trump campaign. Sources familiar with the investigations say they are probing two Trump-linked organizations: Cambridge Analytica, and Breitbart News. It’s worth remembering that when Comey testified before Congress on March 20, he did not use the word “COLLUSION” to describe what he was investigating. Instead he said the FBI is investigating “whether there was any COORDINATION between the campaign and Russia’s efforts.” The letter appointing Robert Mueller as special counsel uses the same language. Cambridge Analytica worked on campaigns in several key states for a Republican political action committee. Its key objective, according to a memo the Guardian Observer has seen, was “voter disengagement” and “to persuade Democrat voters to stay at home”: a profoundly disquieting tactic. It has previously been claimed that suppression tactics were used in the campaign, but this document provides the first actual evidence.

mellincf
09-15-2017, 06:44 AM
9/17/17 The Republican-led Senate judiciary committee now plans to take the first steps on legislation that would make it harder for President Donald Trump to fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the latest sign that Trump could face a backlash from Capitol Hill if he sought to dismiss the special counsel.

MDLNB
09-15-2017, 09:12 AM
9/17/17 The Republican-led Senate judiciary committee now plans to take the first steps on legislation that would make it harder for President Donald Trump to fire Special Counsel Robert Mueller, the latest sign that Trump could face a backlash from Capitol Hill if he sought to dismiss the special counsel.


Want to make a bet that Hillary is indicted before Trump?

mellincf
09-18-2017, 05:33 PM
An attorney working on the Justice Department’s highest-profile money-laundering case recently transferred off that assignment in order to join the staff of the special prosecutor investigating the Trump campaign’s potential ties to Russia, POLITICO has learned. Attorney Kyle Freeny’s background in examining potential money-laundering is significant given the money-laundering questions surrounding this controversy.

mellincf
09-18-2017, 05:34 PM
Want to make a bet that Hillary is indicted before Trump? Really? Just who is investigating her? Robert Mueller is Trump’s worst nightmare. Mueller is a lifelong Republican, a former FBI Director, and he was a Marine in the Vietnam War, where he earned a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart. Mueller is as tough as steel, and he will not back down when it comes to investigating any crimes by Trump and his comrades. Lawman Mueller is a 21st Century Untouchable.

Chi-Town
09-18-2017, 06:00 PM
Want to make a bet that Hillary is indicted before Trump?The song remains the same.

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MDLNB
09-19-2017, 04:21 AM
Really? Just who is investigating her? Robert Mueller is Trump’s worst nightmare. Mueller is a lifelong Republican, a former FBI Director, and he was a Marine in the Vietnam War, where he earned a Bronze Star and a Purple Heart. Mueller is as tough as steel, and he will not back down when it comes to investigating any crimes by Trump and his comrades. Lawman Mueller is a 21st Century Untouchable.


Mueller takes orders. Mueller was culpable in Hillary's sale of uranium to Russia. And you claim he has no bias? So, he chose Hillary donors to work on his team, at random? And you believe he will be fair in his investigation? I'll believe that when he manages an indictment for Hillary's crimes, that by the way are very obvious.

mellincf
09-19-2017, 06:19 AM
Mueller takes orders. Mueller was culpable in Hillary's sale of uranium to Russia. And you claim he has no bias? So, he chose Hillary donors to work on his team, at random? And you believe he will be fair in his investigation? I'll believe that when he manages an indictment for Hillary's crimes, that by the way are very obvious.
So I guess you think Hillary walked into that secure military base, stuffed her purse with uranium and mailed a radioactive Christmas present to Putin? How naive are you? That story has been debunked over a million times. In 2010, the Committee on Foreign Investment in the United States approved the sale (uranium cannot leave the USA, by the way). The State Department was one of nine agencies on the committee that approved the deal. The deal was also separately approved by the Nuclear Regulatory Commission. There is no evidence Clinton herself got involved in the deal personally, and it is highly questionable that this deal even rose to the level of the secretary of state. Hillary is walking around freely because she is innocent of Trump's lies and all that Russian propaganda, and Trump is the one going down. No, Hillary Clinton did not "give Russia 20 percent of the uranium” in the US - Vox (https://www.vox.com/world/2017/2/17/14649980/trump-clinton-russia-uranium)

The facts behind Trump’s repeated claim about Hillary Clinton’s role in the Russian uranium deal - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/fact-checker/wp/2016/10/26/the-facts-behind-trumps-repeated-claim-about-hillary-clintons-role-in-the-russian-uranium-deal/?utm_term=.eb10c1013b5e)

mellincf
09-19-2017, 06:28 AM
Paul Manafort, the former chairman of Donald Trump's presidential campaign, has been told by federal prosecutors that they plan to indict him, the New York Times reported Tuesday.
CBS News confirmed Manafort had been wiretapped under a foreign intelligence warrant in connection with U.S. concerns that he was communicating with Russian operatives who wanted to influence the American election. The warrants were issued before Robert Mueller was appointed as special counsel to take over the investigation from the FBI. The U.S. government listened in on Manafort's conversations during the presidential campaign and through the election -- though not constantly -- and its surveillance includes the period when Manafort was Mr. Trump's campaign chairman.

mellincf
09-19-2017, 11:45 AM
The very fact that the F.B.I. raided Manafort’s home is telling: the former Trump campaign manager is reportedly under investigation for potentially violating tax laws, money laundering, and the failure to disclose foreign lobbying on behalf of pro-Russian interests. In order for Mueller to obtain the warrant to search and enter Manafort’s home unannounced, his team would have had to convince a judge not only that the home contained evidence of a crime, but that Manafort was likely to destroy evidence. “Clearly they didn’t trust him,” Jimmy Gurulé, a Notre Dame law professor and former federal prosecutor, told the Times. “This is more consistent with how you’d go after an organized crime syndicate,” he added.

mellincf
09-19-2017, 11:47 AM
The latest revelations will only fuel speculation that Mueller’s team sees Manafort as either the primary suspect in any Russia-related wrongdoing, or the best person to flip to become a cooperating witness for the state. A series of moves over the past months suggest Mueller is attempting to gain maximum leverage over Manafort.

jebartle
09-19-2017, 02:38 PM
As the plot thickens. Count down....

CowBubba
09-19-2017, 02:54 PM
Manafort: TIC TOC TIC TOC. TRUMPs ass must be plucked up so tight a carpenter could not drive a nail up it with a 2 pound hammer. LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

mellincf
09-19-2017, 03:29 PM
Reactions: Norm Eisen was Barack Obama’s White House ethics czar: Hoo boy. Let's be very clear here: if Manafort told Trump of Russian interference and Trump approved, they are both going down.

A former spokesman for the Justice Department questioned Trump’s continued communications with Manafort: Trump continuing to talk on the phone to Manafort this year when it was already clear he was a target is just unbelievably reckless. Twitter (https://twitter.com/yashar/status/909914953997578240) …

Breitbart is spinning the CNN story that Manafort was being surveilled as validation of Trump’s claim that Trump Tower was wiretapped. Back under the control of Steve Bannon, the banner headline on the site is: “CNN Admits Trump Campaign Was Wiretapped: Breitbart News and Mark Levin Right, Mainstream Media Wrong.”

CowBubba
09-19-2017, 03:52 PM
Tic TOC tic TOC. LOL, PRAISE MANAFORT. if he flips on trump, I will donate to his defense fund.

MDLNB
09-19-2017, 09:44 PM
Tic TOC tic TOC. LOL, PRAISE MANAFORT. if he flips on trump, I will donate to his defense fund.

How about when Tony the Weiner rolls on Hillary? Gonna donate to his defense fund?

mellincf
09-21-2017, 06:08 AM
Mueller's team wants information connected to the Oval Office meeting Trump had with Russian officials in which he bragged about firing Comey, saying it eased pressure on his White House. The requests show that parts of Mueller's investigation are focusing on the President's own actions.

MDLNB
09-21-2017, 07:40 AM
Time for Trump to advise Mueller to either produce some results or be fired. No use wasting time and money on a witch hunt. If Mueller has some viable leads, fine. If not, he should be terminated.

mellincf
09-21-2017, 01:50 PM
Time for Trump to advise Mueller to either produce some results or be fired. No use wasting time and money on a witch hunt. If Mueller has some viable leads, fine. If not, he should be terminated. If Trump fires Mueller (and he would love to) it will cause a Constitutional crisis. Remember Mueller's investigation is only one of three going on at the same time, as the House and the Senate are also doing their own investigations, and if the intelligence was truly questionable, GOP members of the two Congressional intelligence committees would be questioning it. They're not. Mueller is looking into Trump’s international money laundering connections and links with Russian operatives as a means of accepting Russian payoffs. Mueller is just sharpening his pencils. Stay tuned! Robert Mueller is expanding the Russia probe. Here’s how | PBS NewsHour (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/robert-mueller-expanding-russia-probe-heres/)

dirtbanker
09-21-2017, 02:15 PM
If Trump fires Mueller (and he would love to) it will cause a Constitutional crisis. Remember Mueller's investigation is only one of three going on at the same time, as the House and the Senate are also doing their own investigations, and if the intelligence was truly questionable, GOP members of the two Congressional intelligence committees would be questioning it. They're not. Mueller is looking into Trump’s international money laundering connections and links with Russian operatives as a means of accepting Russian payoffs. Mueller is just sharpening his pencils. Stay tuned! Robert Mueller is expanding the Russia probe. Here’s how | PBS NewsHour (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/robert-mueller-expanding-russia-probe-heres/)Hey Mell - are you a window licker or just another stupid broad?

Consitutional crisis...who's a$$ did you have your head stuffed in the last 8 years?

Trumps international money laundering...geeze just another accusation!

Are you enjoying your inefficient home built on a filled swamp?

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MDLNB
09-21-2017, 03:12 PM
If Trump fires Mueller (and he would love to) it will cause a Constitutional crisis. Remember Mueller's investigation is only one of three going on at the same time, as the House and the Senate are also doing their own investigations, and if the intelligence was truly questionable, GOP members of the two Congressional intelligence committees would be questioning it. They're not. Mueller is looking into Trump’s international money laundering connections and links with Russian operatives as a means of accepting Russian payoffs. Mueller is just sharpening his pencils. Stay tuned! Robert Mueller is expanding the Russia probe. Here’s how | PBS NewsHour (http://www.pbs.org/newshour/bb/robert-mueller-expanding-russia-probe-heres/)


Interesting how suddenly Clapper is admitting that Trump may have been wire tapped. Perhaps he is taking doses of Ginko Biloba and has had a miracle recollection? Totally different from his testimony under oath where he adamantly denied that Trump had been wire tapped. Be careful how you answer this one because the way things are going, you may find a bit of egg on your face.

mellincf
09-21-2017, 04:55 PM
Interesting how suddenly Clapper is admitting that Trump may have been wire tapped. Perhaps he is taking doses of Ginko Biloba and has had a miracle recollection? Totally different from his testimony under oath where he adamantly denied that Trump had been wire tapped. Be careful how you answer this one because the way things are going, you may find a bit of egg on your face. Again, the FBI has to be pretty sure you're a traitor to get permission for a wiretap. The fact that they MAY have picked up Trump talking to Manafort, who was the subject of the wiretap, is immaterial. But be sure and ignore the circumstances and jump to conclusions.

mellincf
09-21-2017, 05:04 PM
Hey Mell - are you a window licker or just another stupid broad?

Consitutional crisis...who's a$$ did you have your head stuffed in the last 8 years?

Trumps international money laundering...geeze just another accusation!

Are you enjoying your inefficient home built on a filled swamp?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk Trump Taj Mahal was cited by the IRS and fined by the US Treasury Department’s Financial Crimes Enforcement Network (FinCEN) for money laundering offenses dating all the way back to 1990. It’s entirely possible that Trump was never more than a convenient patsy for Russian oligarchs and mobsters, with his casinos and condos providing easy pass-throughs for their illicit riches. At the very least, with his constant need for new infusions of cash and his well-documented troubles with creditors, Trump made an easy “mark” for anyone looking to launder money. But whatever his knowledge about the source of his wealth, the public record makes clear that Trump built his business empire in no small part with a lot of dirty money from a lot of dirty Russians.

mellincf
09-21-2017, 05:18 PM
Throughout the 1990s, untold millions from the former Soviet Union flowed into Trump’s luxury developments and Atlantic City casinos. But all the money wasn’t enough to save Trump from his own failings as a businessman. He owed $4 billion to more than 70 banks, with a mind-boggling $800 million of it personally guaranteed. For most developers, the situation would have spelled financial ruin. But fortunately for Trump, Russian mobsters came to his aid. Dolly Lenz, a New York real estate broker, told USA Today that she sold some 65 units in Trump World Tower to Russians. Some of these were convicted for taking part in a massive international gambling and money-laundering syndicate that was run out of Trump Tower in New York. Another one-third of the units—more than 700 in all—were bought by shadowy shell companies that concealed the true owners. Condos in Trump Tower served as the headquarters for a “sophisticated money-laundering scheme” that moved an estimated $100 million out of the former Soviet Union, through shell companies in Cyprus, and into investments in the United States.

mellincf
09-25-2017, 05:49 PM
How exactly do you have “no contact with Russians” when you choose to bring two Russians, one of them a former government lawyer and the other an alleged military spy, right into the heart of your campaign?, U.S. intel agencies recorded Russian agents discussing a request for “help” in their campaign by Paul Manafort, who was the third Trump campaign member in that meeting besides Don Jr. and Jared Kushner. In the summer of 2016, US intelligence agencies noticed a spate of curious contacts between Trump campaign associates and suspected Russian intelligence, according to current and former US officials briefed on the investigation… CNN has learned that investigators became more suspicious when they turned up intercepted communications that U.S. intelligence agencies collected among suspected Russian operatives discussing their efforts to work with Manafort, who served as campaign chairman, to coordinate information that could damage Hillary Clinton's election prospects, the US officials say. The suspected operatives relayed what they claimed were conversations with Manafort, encouraging help from the Russians. Manafort secretly worked for a Russian billionaire to advance the interests of Russian President Vladimir Putin a decade ago and proposed an ambitious political strategy to undermine anti-Russian opposition across former Soviet republics, The Associated Press has learned. The work appears to contradict assertions by the Trump administration and Manafort himself that he never worked for Russian interests. The reports we currently have of Manafort’s actions are that he attended a meeting with former Russian prosecutor Natalia Veselnitskaya, who secretly came to Trump Tower to meet with Donald Jr. She brought former Russian Intelligence officer Rinat Ahkmetshin with her, who has been reportedly linked to various acts of corporate hacking, in order to supposedly provide the Trump campaign with “negative information on Hillary Clinton” that would have helped their campaign because that’s something the “Russian Government wanted” to do. Less than two weeks before Donald Trump accepted the Republican presidential nomination, his campaign chairman offered to provide briefings on the race to a Russian billionaire closely aligned with the Kremlin, according to people familiar with the discussions. Paul Manafort made the offer in an email to an overseas intermediary, asking that a message be sent to Oleg Deripaska, an aluminum magnate with whom Manafort had done business in the past, these people said.
“If he needs private briefings we can accommodate,” Manafort wrote in the July 7, 2016, email, portions of which were read to The Washington Post along with other Manafort correspondence from that time. Manafort proposed in a confidential strategy plan as early as June 2005 that he would influence politics, business dealings and news coverage inside the United States, Europe and the former Soviet republics to benefit the Putin government, even as U.S.-Russia relations under Republican President George W. Bush grew worse. Manafort pitched the plans to Russian aluminum magnate Oleg Deripaska, a close Putin ally with whom Manafort eventually signed a $10 million annual contract beginning in 2006, according to interviews with several people familiar with payments to Manafort and business records obtained by the AP. Manafort and Deripaska maintained a business relationship until at least 2009, according to one person familiar with the work.
Just to be clear, Manafort did this illegally, because he failed to register as a foreign agent at the time. In fact, he didn’t finally register until June of this year. The problem now appears to be that Manafort didn’t exactly end this relationship with Deripaska in 2009, when Medvedev became president of the Russian Federation and Putin became prime minister. It seems to have continued.
And there’s also the problem that even without registering under FARA, doing any work for Deripaska was potentially problematic under the Foreign Corrupt Practices Act. Deripaska also faces possible money laundering charges because he’s alleged to have ties to the Russian mafia (although in fairness it should be noted that he later sued the AP for defamation over these claims). Just to sum up, Donald Trump has claimed he had “nothing to do with Russians,” that no one in his campaign had “anything to do with Russians.”

MDLNB
09-25-2017, 08:44 PM
Who cares? Hillary lost and that is a fact. It ain't gonna change. Live with it. The Russians are just a conspiracy to cover the left's embarrassment.

mellincf
09-26-2017, 05:48 PM
Mueller is guided by a written order issued by Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein in May which allows the special counsel to investigate "any matters that arose or may arise directly from the investigation." The IRS Criminal Investigation agents had been working with the FBI to investigate Manafort since before the election in a similar probe that centered on possible money laundering and tax fraud issues. The new information about the depth of IRS involvement renews questions surrounding the controversial issue of President Donald Trump's tax returns, which he refused to release during the campaign despite decades of precedent by presidential candidates. Mueller's team has warned Manafort that they are working to charge him with possible tax and financial crimes, an indication the investigation could be in an advanced stage.

mellincf
09-26-2017, 05:51 PM
Who cares? Hillary lost and that is a fact. It ain't gonna change. Live with it. The Russians are just a conspiracy to cover the left's embarrassment. You're probably upset that NFL players are protesting the unfair treatment of some of our citizens and think your reaction is patriotic, while at the same time ignoring an attack on our nation by a hostile foreign government. I believe you need to widen your sources of information to that "mainstream media" Trump is so afraid you'll listen to.

mellincf
09-28-2017, 03:51 PM
"In the past we’ve always come together as a country when we’ve been attacked by a foreign enemy, whether it was Pearl Harbor or 9/11. And for this, for the first time, [it] is not so.” — Rob Reiner

mellincf
10-03-2017, 04:15 PM
f Trump begins blocking the progress of the investigation with pardons, federal courts can expect some exercise. But Mueller doesn’t want to leave his case in the hands of Trump-appointed judges. Acting as Mueller’s top legal counsel, Michael Dreeben has been researching past pardons and determining what, if any, limits exist. Dreeben’s brief is to make sure the special counsel’s prosecutorial moves are legally airtight. Dreeben, 62, built that expertise over three decades as an appeals lawyer at the Justice Department. As a deputy solicitor general, he’s pored over prosecutors’ moves in more than a thousand federal criminal prosecutions and defended many of them from challenges all they way to the nation’s highest court. Dreeben is the expert in how to make charges stick.

dirtbanker
10-03-2017, 04:35 PM
Mellinhead still talking to herself...too bad Obamma did nothing to prevent anyone from influencing an election..
Mueller leaked to the media and should be disbarred.

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Bog99
10-04-2017, 01:54 AM
Want to talk emails? How about all the ones between Trump associates and Russian oligarchs in the middle of the campaign? Emails showing that Sater, who once was a “senior adviser” to Trump, and Cohen, Trump’s personal lawyer, worked in 2015 and early 2016 to complete an agreement for a Trump Tower in Moscow, efforts contradicting the president’s many claims that he has “nothing to do with Russia.” As Trump praised Russian President Vladimir Putin on the campaign trail in early 2016, Cohen emailed Putin’s spokesman to ask for Putin’s help reviving discussions with Russian partners on the project. Sater’s emails boasted that the deal would help Trump get elected. Cohen and Sater’s emails were among a large trove of documents the Trump Organization turned over to congressional investigators this week. As we learn more about Trump’s Russian dealings, his actions in trying to shut down the investigation become more understandable.


What a load of crap! In other words, it's against the law to make money in Russia. ... yeah right.

Femo-Fascists can't stand the reality of Trump's winning because it's an affront to their conceit, i.e. their sense of superiority.


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Meanwhile, "Liberty? What's that?...

Byte1
10-04-2017, 05:42 AM
For some reason there are many celebrity birthday wish threads started in this political forum. I am sure there is a reason for it. Something a new person wouldn't understand. However, it does bring to mind an old movie that seems relevant to this subject. I do not know if anyone remembers the old movie "The Russians are Coming." I really didn't care for the movie, but the title seems to fit the narrative.

mellincf
10-04-2017, 07:52 AM
Democrats in Congress say we've only seen the "tip of the iceberg" when it comes to social media and Russian interference, but here's a top Republican saying it, Sen. John Cornyn: "It's consistent with everything else we've seen in terms of Russian active measures -- a combination of cyber, of propaganda and paid and social media," he said. "So, we're just looking at the tip of the iceberg."

mellincf
10-04-2017, 07:56 AM
What a load of crap! In other words, it's against the law to make money in Russia. ... yeah right.

Femo-Fascists can't stand the reality of Trump's winning because it's an affront to their conceit, i.e. their sense of superiority.


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Meanwhile, "Liberty? What's that?... It's against the law to make money in Russia...and then lie to Congress about it. Senate Intelligence committee member Senator Coons wrote a memo:"Below is a statute to keep in mind in regards to Donald Trump Jr.'s testimony today," then he simply laid out the legal statute for lying to Congress. Mueller recognizes that Russian organized crime and sophisticated financial transactions involving them are going to be right at the center and has hired Lisa Page and Andrew Weissmann. Page is a trial attorney in the Justice Department's organized-crime section whose cases centered on international organized crime and money laundering, and Weissmann is a seasoned prosecutor who oversaw cases against high-ranking organized criminals on Wall Street in the early 1990s and, later, against 30 people implicated in the Enron fraud scandal.

Rockyrd
10-04-2017, 09:42 AM
Democrats in Congress say we've only seen the "tip of the iceberg" when it comes to social media and Russian interference, but here's a top Republican saying it, Sen. John Cornyn: "It's consistent with everything else we've seen in terms of Russian active measures -- a combination of cyber, of propaganda and paid and social media," he said. "So, we're just looking at the tip of the iceberg."

It always strikes me that we have a sitting President who actually opposes investigating a foreign power interfering in our election.....he actually continues to call it a hoax, and fake news.

That is mind boggling to me. How much more of an anti american attitude can you have.

But he allows himself from our oval office to make serious felonious accusations about so many people, never supplying substance to anything he says.

Hard to draw up a more anti american attitude that what he has.

mellincf
10-04-2017, 01:01 PM
It always strikes me that we have a sitting President who actually opposes investigating a foreign power interfering in our election.....he actually continues to call it a hoax, and fake news.

That is mind boggling to me. How much more of an anti american attitude can you have.

But he allows himself from our oval office to make serious felonious accusations about so many people, never supplying substance to anything he says.

Hard to draw up a more anti american attitude that what he has. When The Washington Post reported that Robert Mueller, the special counsel overseeing the FBI's probe, was investigating whether Trump obstructed justice, the Republican National Committee did not dispute the accuracy of the report. Neither did Trump's lawyer, Marc Kasowitz.

ColdNoMore
10-04-2017, 02:24 PM
It always strikes me that we have a sitting President who actually opposes investigating a foreign power interfering in our election.....he actually continues to call it a hoax, and fake news.

That is mind boggling to me. How much more of an anti American attitude can you have.

But he allows himself from our oval office to make serious felonious accusations about so many people, never supplying substance to anything he says.

Hard to draw up a more anti American attitude that what he has.

Even more amazing, mind boggling and disgusting, are the Anti-American citizens of this great nation...who still blindly follow him. :ohdear:

MDLNB
10-04-2017, 06:05 PM
It's against the law to make money in Russia...and then lie to Congress about it. Senate Intelligence committee member Senator Coons wrote a memo:"Below is a statute to keep in mind in regards to Donald Trump Jr.'s testimony today," then he simply laid out the legal statute for lying to Congress. Mueller recognizes that Russian organized crime and sophisticated financial transactions involving them are going to be right at the center and has hired Lisa Page and Andrew Weissmann. Page is a trial attorney in the Justice Department's organized-crime section whose cases centered on international organized crime and money laundering, and Weissmann is a seasoned prosecutor who oversaw cases against high-ranking organized criminals on Wall Street in the early 1990s and, later, against 30 people implicated in the Enron fraud scandal.

Better not bring up lying to congress. The Clintons are the experts of lying. Did Hillary not receive money from Russia? Was it not pay to play? Was it related to her signature of approval for the uranium transfer?

Time for libtards to quit grasping at straws and decide how they are going to win some seats back in politics, other than dog catcher management. You do not get votes by making yourself look worse than your opponent.

Rockyrd
10-04-2017, 06:25 PM
Better not bring up lying to congress. The Clintons are the experts of lying. Did Hillary not receive money from Russia? Was it not pay to play? Was it related to her signature of approval for the uranium transfer?

Time for libtards to quit grasping at straws and decide how they are going to win some seats back in politics, other than dog catcher management. You do not get votes by making yourself look worse than your opponent.

Same reply always. Never ever substantiated...just a general condemnation of Clinton's, never backed up.

Followed by a rude, troll comment

None of that excuses Trump

MDLNB
10-04-2017, 06:31 PM
Same reply always. Never ever substantiated...just a general condemnation of Clinton's, never backed up.

Followed by a rude, troll comment

None of that excuses Trump


From what 'tard? You said that Hillary was not a criminal because she was not indicted. What are you going to indict Trump on? Other than your made up crap, based on nothing but your "hate" for him.

Yep, you are about as much a conservative as I am a democrat. You lost credibility when you voted for Mickey Mouse.

Rockyrd
10-04-2017, 06:36 PM
From what 'tard? You said that Hillary was not a criminal because she was not indicted. What are you going to indict Trump on? Other than your made up crap, based on nothing but your "hate" for him.

Yep, you are about as much a conservative as I am a democrat. You lost credibility when you voted for Mickey Mouse.

Do you even read your posts before allowing others to see your incoherent rankings.

Anything anyone says abut Trump, and there is so much is something about Clinton or Obama. And of course your belief that Trump, who has spent his life on the fringe and really over, is some kind of saint.

This man has laundered money for both the Jersey mob and the Russian mob. He is the single largest violates of federal housing law, and on and on, and you are so out of it, you paint this dispicable man to be decent.

MDLNB
10-04-2017, 06:46 PM
Even more amazing, mind boggling and disgusting, are the Anti-American citizens of this great nation...who still blindly follow him. :ohdear:

That is like the most STUPID thing you have ever said on here. Actually, probably the most stupid that anyone has said on here. I am surprised that you did not try to edit it by now. It's been posted for quite a while.

Anti-American? Those that follow the American President is "Anti-American?" Do you see how stupid your comment is? You must have really lost it, because I would not expect you to make such a bad mistake.
I have never heard of anyone accused of following the legitimately elected President of being Anti-American because they follow him. That's great! Gotta love it when a libtard has lost it to the point of proving everyone else RIGHT.

Fredster
10-04-2017, 07:00 PM
The investigation into Russian intervention in our
election process has only brought to light,
the need for further investigation into
Hillary Clinton’s dealing with the Russians.
And a harder look at what the DNC and Obama
were up to prior to a during the election!

Rockyrd
10-04-2017, 07:04 PM
The investigation into Russian intervention in our
election process has only brought to light,
the need for further investigation into
Hillary Clinton’s dealing with the Russians.
And a harder look at what the DNC and Obama
were up to prior to a during the election!

Clinton again. Wow, you folks have a serious problem..really

mellincf
10-04-2017, 07:48 PM
The investigation into Russian intervention in our
election process has only brought to light,
the need for further investigation into
Hillary Clinton’s dealing with the Russians.
And a harder look at what the DNC and Obama
were up to prior to a during the election!

Putin HATES Hillary Clinton. The sanctions are killing his economy, that's why he backed Trump so strongly. Trump tried to get those sanctions lifted the first week of his presidency, but Congress overruled him. In fact, they put more sanctions on Russia, because they understood the truth of Russian interference. Obama kicked the Russians out of our country, seized their mansions, imposed economic sanctions, and would have done more except the Republican Congress would not let him. McConnell threatened he would make it look like Obama was trying to influence the election for Hillary. McConnell's wife now has a cushy job in the Trump administration.

mellincf
10-04-2017, 07:58 PM
From what 'tard? You said that Hillary was not a criminal because she was not indicted. What are you going to indict Trump on? Other than your made up crap, based on nothing but your "hate" for him.

Yep, you are about as much a conservative as I am a democrat. You lost credibility when you voted for Mickey Mouse. Then you obviously have not been reading the extensive information contained in this thread. Why, then, are you here? Perhaps if you are not interested in the Russia thing, you might be interested in the "swamp" thing: Behind the scenes, Donald Trump is not draining the swamp. He is the lead swamp monster. And he has created a cabinet that is ready and willing to take advantage of the taxpayer dollar. Price is not the only member of Trump's cabinet who has used private charter flights paid for by the American taxpayer. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin reportedly asked the White House about using a government jet for his honeymoon to Paris, at $25,000 an hour. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has used private planes for trips to his hometown and the Caribbean. Trump himself has been padding his own pockets -- or, to be more exact, the pockets of his family businesses -- with American taxpayer money for months. The Trump team was projected to pocket $10 million from his campaign fund. But the most egregious is Trump's use of travel as a means of promoting his properties and providing a reason to make entry more exclusive and expensive. Mar-a-Lago, one of the most infamous of the Trump properties, has upped its member fee to $200,000 since the election. That is twice the previous fee. His rampant abuse of taxpayer money, combined with the arrogant responses from Trump and his cabinet members, should send a chill down the spine of the Republican party. But it should especially unnerve those who elected him to drain the swamp.

affald
10-04-2017, 08:09 PM
Then you obviously have not been reading the extensive information contained in this thread. Why, then, are you here? Perhaps if you are not interested in the Russia thing, you might be interested in the "swamp" thing: Behind the scenes, Donald Trump is not draining the swamp. He is the lead swamp monster. And he has created a cabinet that is ready and willing to take advantage of the taxpayer dollar. Price is not the only member of Trump's cabinet who has used private charter flights paid for by the American taxpayer. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin reportedly asked the White House about using a government jet for his honeymoon to Paris, at $25,000 an hour. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has used private planes for trips to his hometown and the Caribbean. Trump himself has been padding his own pockets -- or, to be more exact, the pockets of his family businesses -- with American taxpayer money for months. The Trump team was projected to pocket $10 million from his campaign fund. But the most egregious is Trump's use of travel as a means of promoting his properties and providing a reason to make entry more exclusive and expensive. Mar-a-Lago, one of the most infamous of the Trump properties, has upped its member fee to $200,000 since the election. That is twice the previous fee. His rampant abuse of taxpayer money, combined with the arrogant responses from Trump and his cabinet members, should send a chill down the spine of the Republican party. But it should especially unnerve those who elected him to drain the swamp.You are rockhead with a different screen name.

mellincf
10-04-2017, 09:02 PM
You are rockhead with a different screen name.
Nope. But, tellingly, no response to my information?

dirtbanker
10-05-2017, 06:02 AM
Then you obviously have not been reading the extensive information contained in this thread. Why, then, are you here? Perhaps if you are not interested in the Russia thing, you might be interested in the "swamp" thing: Behind the scenes, Donald Trump is not draining the swamp. He is the lead swamp monster. And he has created a cabinet that is ready and willing to take advantage of the taxpayer dollar. Price is not the only member of Trump's cabinet who has used private charter flights paid for by the American taxpayer. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin reportedly asked the White House about using a government jet for his honeymoon to Paris, at $25,000 an hour. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has used private planes for trips to his hometown and the Caribbean. Trump himself has been padding his own pockets -- or, to be more exact, the pockets of his family businesses -- with American taxpayer money for months. The Trump team was projected to pocket $10 million from his campaign fund. But the most egregious is Trump's use of travel as a means of promoting his properties and providing a reason to make entry more exclusive and expensive. Mar-a-Lago, one of the most infamous of the Trump properties, has upped its member fee to $200,000 since the election. That is twice the previous fee. His rampant abuse of taxpayer money, combined with the arrogant responses from Trump and his cabinet members, should send a chill down the spine of the Republican party. But it should especially unnerve those who elected him to drain the swamp.

Quite the OPINION there...not a shred of proof, just ambiguous accusations.

Entertaining how you are now interested in the use of government aircraft for personal use, misuse of campaign funds, politicians getting wealthy on mediocre salaries...where the hell was your outrage the last 8 years?

I am curious who you voted for? Crooked Hillary, Crazy Bernie, or Dopey Smurf for president??

You never responded to my inquire (remember you never purchase "retail"...LOL) how it is justifiable for you to purchase an inefficient home built on a filled swamp, but others should not be able to do that???



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dirtbanker
10-05-2017, 06:02 AM
You are rockhead with a different screen name.They both seem drama crazed thats for sure!

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Rockyrd
10-05-2017, 06:21 AM
They both seem drama crazed thats for sure!

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Neither are drama crazed.

BUT......not sure if crazed is the right word, sort of fascinated with facts and substance.

Not your cup of tea I understand but facts and substance tell the story

dirtbanker
10-05-2017, 07:51 AM
Neither are drama crazed.

BUT......not sure if crazed is the right word, sort of fascinated with facts and substance.

Not your cup of tea I understand but facts and substance tell the storyYour confused old man, opinion is all you have - no facts- just non stop negative whining against the President...all because your sore that Dopey did not win!

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Rockyrd
10-05-2017, 07:59 AM
Your confused old man, opinion is all you have - no facts- just non stop negative whining against the President...all because your sore that Dopey did not win!

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Wow..when I post facts, articles, actual quotes, verified information, you complain.

I suppose when you do not function well with facts, nor know much it must be frustrating. We can see that frustration and lack of knowledge in your posts and hope you get better.

affald
10-05-2017, 08:23 AM
Wow..when I post facts, articles, actual quotes, verified information, you complain.

I suppose when you do not function well with facts, nor know much it must be frustrating. We can see that frustration and lack of knowledge in your posts and hope you get better.Go back to the facts that your dope smoking, chain smoking Obama divided the country to create internal chaos and gave billions if not trillions directly and indirectly to terrorists to create world chaos.

And Hillary would have been worse.

Don Baldwin
10-05-2017, 08:29 AM
Go back to the facts that your dope smoking, chain smoking Obama divided the country to create internal chaos and gave billions if not trillions directly and indirectly to terrorists to create world chaos.

And Hillary would have been worse.

Minorities became the majority in America on his watch.

THAT...you will eventually see...was America's point of no return.

They won. Hispanics will reconquer their native lands. And we paid them to do it. They did it by dumping off 50 million anchor babies.

Taltarzac725
10-05-2017, 08:30 AM
Wow..when I post facts, articles, actual quotes, verified information, you complain.

I suppose when you do not function well with facts, nor know much it must be frustrating. We can see that frustration and lack of knowledge in your posts and hope you get better.

I hope you keep this up. Too many trolls on the TOTV Political Forum. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (3/5) Movie CLIP - Toilet Troll (2001) HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v5g_GFm1W0)

dirtbanker
10-05-2017, 08:59 AM
Wow..when I post facts, articles, actual quotes, verified information, you complain.

I suppose when you do not function well with facts, nor know much it must be frustrating. We can see that frustration and lack of knowledge in your posts and hope you get better.

WOW! When you post opinion reporting and consider it as fact...I laugh at your drama crazed posts.

When you bore the $hit out of everyone with your copy and paste paragraphs of "opinion reporting", in fu<king bold font...I complain that you are wasting server space, a link would suffice.

Go brow beat your wife old timer, you stepped out of reality when you voted Dopey Smurf for president!


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Rockyrd
10-05-2017, 09:07 AM
WOW! When you post opinion reporting and consider it as fact...I laugh at your drama crazed posts.

When you bore the $hit out of everyone with your copy and paste paragraphs of "opinion reporting", in fu<king bold font...I complain that you are wasting server space, a link would suffice.

Go brow beat your wife old timer, you stepped out of reality when you voted Dopey Smurf for president!


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Was the idea of your posting on a public forum the idea of your analyst ?

You really have a mean streak inside you which is based on your lack of knowledge and frustration that others know so much more than you can ever know.

Rockyrd
10-05-2017, 09:10 AM
Go back to the facts that your dope smoking, chain smoking Obama divided the country to create internal chaos and gave billions if not trillions directly and indirectly to terrorists to create world chaos.

And Hillary would have been worse.

And share with us your facts supporting your arguement.

You have none thus you just keep reaffirming your solid gold troll badge.

You simply allow things to pop from your mouth......you NEVER can support anything. You have been trained somehow to say the same thing over and over and over no matter what the real subject is...Obama, Clinton, Obama, Clinton.

Election was almost a year ago......why not forget history and speak to the current events happening or not happening in our country.

dirtbanker
10-05-2017, 09:11 AM
I hope you keep this up. Too many trolls on the TOTV Political Forum. Harry Potter and the Sorcerer's Stone (3/5) Movie CLIP - Toilet Troll (2001) HD - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_v5g_GFm1W0)

Well you are surely a failure your parents regret, but one thing you have accomplished is "troll" status.

You consistantly start and bump your threads that are only aimed at annoying the rest on here. Fine examples would be "happy birthday so and so, library loser thread, talk to yourself while jacking off Facebook thread...all serve no purpose other than giving you another chance to receive the abuse, you, the masochist craves...

Get a job, Earn a wage, and Pay some Income tax...till then, your opinion does not matter...loser!

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Rockyrd
10-05-2017, 02:02 PM
Then you obviously have not been reading the extensive information contained in this thread. Why, then, are you here? Perhaps if you are not interested in the Russia thing, you might be interested in the "swamp" thing: Behind the scenes, Donald Trump is not draining the swamp. He is the lead swamp monster. And he has created a cabinet that is ready and willing to take advantage of the taxpayer dollar. Price is not the only member of Trump's cabinet who has used private charter flights paid for by the American taxpayer. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin reportedly asked the White House about using a government jet for his honeymoon to Paris, at $25,000 an hour. Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke has used private planes for trips to his hometown and the Caribbean. Trump himself has been padding his own pockets -- or, to be more exact, the pockets of his family businesses -- with American taxpayer money for months. The Trump team was projected to pocket $10 million from his campaign fund. But the most egregious is Trump's use of travel as a means of promoting his properties and providing a reason to make entry more exclusive and expensive. Mar-a-Lago, one of the most infamous of the Trump properties, has upped its member fee to $200,000 since the election. That is twice the previous fee. His rampant abuse of taxpayer money, combined with the arrogant responses from Trump and his cabinet members, should send a chill down the spine of the Republican party. But it should especially unnerve those who elected him to drain the swamp.

Today the Wall St Journal reports Russian hackers stole NSA data on United States Cyber defense.

Hoax my ass...we are being attacked

affald
10-05-2017, 02:07 PM
Today the Wall St Journal reports Russian hackers stole NSA data on United States Cyber defense.

Hoax my ass...we are being attackedYou realize the cyber spying has been going on for a long time? Economically china has hurt the usa more than all other countries combined.

Obama and the dems are only making this a big Russia election deal cause they LOST.

And you are a sucker for wasting all your time falling into the Russian trap.

Perhaps the Russians wanted Trump to win, so ******* like you would try to destroy and divide the nation.

Think it though rockhead, melonhead or whoever you are at the moment.

dirtbanker
10-05-2017, 02:34 PM
Today the Wall St Journal reports Russian hackers stole NSA data on United States Cyber defense.

Hoax my ass...we are being attacked

It's too bad Obamma was too busy giving rim jobs to Crooked Hillary, he could have done something about the known potential of hackers...stupid / lazy Obamma...now it all falls in Trumps pile of $hit to fix.


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mellincf
10-05-2017, 02:41 PM
It's too bad Obamma was too busy giving rim jobs to Crooked Hillary, he could have done something about the known potential of hackers...stupid / lazy Obamma...now it all falls in Trumps pile of $hit to fix.


Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using TapatalkObama kicked the Russians out of our country, seized their mansions, imposed economic conditions, and would have done more except the Republican Congress would not let him. I wish the right would acknowledge that a nuclear superpower which kills journalists and dissenters, invades neighboring countries, and is run by corrupt people, not only attacked our country's democratic systems but is now seeing how far they can get attacking our own nuclear grid. This is not something to ignore. But Trump owes them so much money, he has to ignore it. Trump's $100 Million in Russian Income - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/05/trumps-100-million-in-russian-income/526530/)

dirtbanker
10-05-2017, 02:43 PM
Obama kicked the Russians out of our country, seized their mansions, imposed economic conditions, and would have done more except the Republican Congress would not let him. I wish the right would acknowledge that a nuclear superpower which kills journalists and dissenters, invades neighboring countries, and is run by corrupt people, not only attacked our country's democratic systems but is now seeing how far they can get attacking our own nuclear grid. This is not something to ignore. But Trump owes them so much money, he has to ignore it.Obviously Lazy / Stupid Obamma did not get the job done...his party lost control of congress due to non performance...maybe Obamma should have shut off their internet.

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mellincf
10-05-2017, 02:52 PM
You realize the cyber spying has been going on for a long time? Economically china has hurt the usa more than all other countries combined.

Obama and the dems are only making this a big Russia election deal cause they LOST.

And you are a sucker for wasting all your time falling into the Russian trap.

Perhaps the Russians wanted Trump to win, so ******* like you would try to destroy and divide the nation.

Think it though rockhead, melonhead or whoever you are at the moment. You need to take one minute and ask yourself if a foreign nation bombed an American city, would we be defending ourselves against the assault? Because the cyber attack on our election is far worse. It was an act of war to undermine our way of life and our democracy. If another country can steal information and use cheap tricks with misinformation to change our elections the United States of America will not exist anymore.
Senate Approves Russia Sanctions, Limiting Trump's Oversight - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/06/senate-approves-russia-sanctions-that-limit-trumps-power/530382/)

affald
10-05-2017, 02:53 PM
You need to take one minute and ask yourself if a foreign nation bombed an American city, would we be defending ourselves against the assault? Because the cyber attack on our election is far worse. It was an act of war to undermine our way of life and our democracy. If another country can steal information and use cheap tricks with misinformation to change our elections the United States of America will not exist anymore.
Senate Approves Russia Sanctions, Limiting Trump's Oversight - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/news/archive/2017/06/senate-approves-russia-sanctions-that-limit-trumps-power/530382/)Lol

mellincf
10-05-2017, 02:55 PM
Obviously Lazy / Stupid Obamma did not get the job done...his party lost control of congress due to non performance...maybe Obamma should have shut off their internet.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using Tapatalk And in the last 9 months, what has YOUR party accomplished? Are you tired of all that winning?

Byte1
10-05-2017, 03:49 PM
And in the last 9 months, what has YOUR party accomplished? Are you tired of all that winning?

Not to butt into your discussion, but I guess this is an open forum. What has the new majority accomplished, you ask? I recently saw a pretty extensive list of accomplishments, most of them being to undo a lot of the last administrations restrictions. But, you do make a good point. In my opinion, when congress does nothing, it is better than producing a lot of hindering regulations and restricting laws. I would have to say that we are better off when congress does NOTHING.

We could also ask what was so great about what was done in the last 8 years? A lot of scandals that we do not need to rehash. I have to admit that it was good of Obama to continue Bush's drone program. It did rid the world of some high ranking terrorists. I just wish that Obama would have restrained himself from interfering in local incidents. Bush stayed out of most of the petty stuff, and I wish Obama would have. But, because of his lack of understanding and his seeming racial bias, he did cause a lot of racial divide, whether he meant it or not. As a matter of fact, this NFL thing started from actions in the last administration. I am sure that it was not intentional and that the divisiveness is due to President Obama's lack of experience. He probably should have spent some time in D.C. in the Senate before running for the top position in the country. At least more than the couple years he spent making "no votes" or "present" during votes on bills.

Rockyrd
10-05-2017, 03:59 PM
Not to butt into your discussion, but I guess this is an open forum. What has the new majority accomplished, you ask? I recently saw a pretty extensive list of accomplishments, most of them being to undo a lot of the last administrations restrictions. But, you do make a good point. In my opinion, when congress does nothing, it is better than producing a lot of hindering regulations and restricting laws. I would have to say that we are better off when congress does NOTHING.

We could also ask what was so great about what was done in the last 8 years? A lot of scandals that we do not need to rehash. I have to admit that it was good of Obama to continue Bush's drone program. It did rid the world of some high ranking terrorists. I just wish that Obama would have restrained himself from interfering in local incidents. Bush stayed out of most of the petty stuff, and I wish Obama would have. But, because of his lack of understanding and his seeming racial bias, he did cause a lot of racial divide, whether he meant it or not. As a matter of fact, this NFL thing started from actions in the last administration. I am sure that it was not intentional and that the divisiveness is due to President Obama's lack of experience. He probably should have spent some time in D.C. in the Senate before running for the top position in the country. At least more than the couple years he spent making "no votes" or "present" during votes on bills.

You refer to Executive Orders...period. All will be reversed as soon as a Democrat is in office. They require nothing but someone to type them up.

Let's discuss the health care fiasco. He likes to blame McCain (while mimicking and mocking his POW injury) but facts is thevPresident was absent in this fight. After all the years of GOP insistence and his promises, you might think an incoming President would stay in Washington and WORK instead of hitting the road to campaign as he did a number of times. Election is over...time to govern and he is campaigning.

He has done nothing and actually has set us back. Foreign relations are a mess as he PUBLICLY differs with the Secy of state, and defense Secy. He has embarrassed us by attacking the mayor of LONDON, PUBLICALLY WHILE THAT CITY WAS UNDER TERRORIST ATTACK, and of course did the same thing in Puerto Rico (not withstanding the paper towel act he put on). He has tweeted to divide, not bring together.

I could go on, but the damage to our nations credibility is sufficient for concern.

And ignoring is all that can be done with your comments on OBama...standard defense for Trump is mention OBama or Clinton or blame the press. Prefictable

dirtbanker
10-05-2017, 05:46 PM
And ignoring is all that can be done with your comments on OBama...standard defense for Trump is mention OBama or Clinton or blame the press. Prefictable

Standard attack for Trump is whine about all the crap the media has presented an opinion of. No they have no facts, just hearsay that is published like it is fact and drama queen liberals like you eat it up.

You said nothing the last 8 years while this country was being divided, most likely you were too stupid to notice. Now you expect all to be fixed - yesterday.

You voted Dopey Smurf for president...how stupid is that.

Where is spelling police Chi?? Rockface spelled "predictable" incorrectly, he needs to be told he was recipient of a poor education.



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mellincf
10-06-2017, 08:15 PM
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigators met this past summer with the former British spy whose dossier on alleged Russian efforts to aid the Trump campaign spawned months of investigations that have hobbled the Trump administration. Information from Christopher Steele, a former MI-6 officer, could help investigators determine whether contacts between people associated with the Trump campaign and suspected Russian operatives broke any laws. The FBI and the US intelligence community last year took the Steele dossier more seriously than the agencies have publicly acknowledged. This contrasts with attempts by President Donald Trump and some lawmakers to discredit Steele and the memos he produced. US investigators have corroborated some aspects of the dossier, specifically that some of the communications among foreign nationals mentioned in the memos did actually take place. Steele was hired in the summer of 2016 by a Washington firm that was already collecting opposition research about Trump. The project was initially funded during the GOP primaries by anti-Trump Republicans, but Democrats started picking up the tab once Trump became the presumptive nominee in the spring. Intelligence agencies fear that if the dossier allegations were made public, the intelligence community would have to say which parts it had corroborated and how. That would compromise sources and methods, including information shared by foreign intelligence services, intelligence officials believe. Since the dossier surfaced, nine Russians believed to be sources have "mysteriously" died in Russia. Nine months, nine prominent Russians dead - CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html)

affald
10-06-2017, 08:49 PM
Special Counsel Robert Mueller's investigators met this past summer with the former British spy whose dossier on alleged Russian efforts to aid the Trump campaign spawned months of investigations that have hobbled the Trump administration. Information from Christopher Steele, a former MI-6 officer, could help investigators determine whether contacts between people associated with the Trump campaign and suspected Russian operatives broke any laws. The FBI and the US intelligence community last year took the Steele dossier more seriously than the agencies have publicly acknowledged. This contrasts with attempts by President Donald Trump and some lawmakers to discredit Steele and the memos he produced. US investigators have corroborated some aspects of the dossier, specifically that some of the communications among foreign nationals mentioned in the memos did actually take place. Steele was hired in the summer of 2016 by a Washington firm that was already collecting opposition research about Trump. The project was initially funded during the GOP primaries by anti-Trump Republicans, but Democrats started picking up the tab once Trump became the presumptive nominee in the spring. Intelligence agencies fear that if the dossier allegations were made public, the intelligence community would have to say which parts it had corroborated and how. That would compromise sources and methods, including information shared by foreign intelligence services, intelligence officials believe. Since the dossier surfaced, nine Russians believed to be sources have "mysteriously" died in Russia. Nine months, nine prominent Russians dead - CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html)If you break up your thoughts with proper paragraph spacing it might at least appear to be coherent.

MDLNB
10-07-2017, 01:42 PM
"Senate Intelligence Committee Update on Russian Inquiry

This week, I provided an update on the status of the Senate Intelligence Committee's inquiry into Russian interference in the 2016 U.S. elections. To date, the committee has spent more than 250 hours interviewing more than 100 individuals (which generated 4,000 transcript pages), with plans to speak with 25 more individuals by the end of October. Our staff has reviewed over 100,000 pages of documents, which equates to 80 plus copies of Tolstoy’s War and Peace. The Committee has also held 11 public hearings that addressed the Russia threat.

While we have learned that the election systems of 21 states were subject to cyber-attacks, the Committee can say with certainty that the vote counts were in no way affected.

The investigation is still ongoing, and the Committee looks forward to completing its work in a timely fashion. While we cannot precisely or responsibly set a specific date, the Vice Chairman of the Committee and I agree that we need to complete our work before the 2018 election cycle gets under way. Until that time, we will refrain from coming to any conclusions prematurely. The Vice Chairman and I are committed to conducting this investigation in a professional and bipartisan manner and are willing to listen to anyone who has information to offer. Rest assured, the American people will have answers when our work here is done."

mellincf
10-07-2017, 02:20 PM
Nobody is really saying vote counts were physically affected. The question is, how much did Russian propaganda convince people that Hillary was "crooked" or that her emails were nefarious? Little has been made of the fact that Trump had a server directly connected to a Russian bank, but a lot was made of Hillary's server in her basement. I notice also that little is said about emails since Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have recently been caught using their private email servers for government business.
The Brazenness of Trump's White House Staff Using Private Email - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/the-brazenness-of-jared-and-ivankas-personal-email-server/541017/)

FBI Investigation of Russian Bank's Link With Trump Organization's Server Ongoing: Report (http://www.newsweek.com/fbi-investigation-trump-organisation-server-russian-lookup-ongoing-report-566235)

Rockyrd
10-07-2017, 02:27 PM
Nobody is really saying vote counts were physically affected. The question is, how much did Russian propaganda convince people that Hillary was "crooked" or that her emails were nefarious? Little has been made of the fact that Trump had a server directly connected to a Russian bank, but a lot was made of Hillary's server in her basement. I notice also that little is said about emails since Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have recently been caught using their private email servers for government business.
The Brazenness of Trump's White House Staff Using Private Email - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/the-brazenness-of-jared-and-ivankas-personal-email-server/541017/)

FBI Investigation of Russian Bank's Link With Trump Organization's Server Ongoing: Report (http://www.newsweek.com/fbi-investigation-trump-organisation-server-russian-lookup-ongoing-report-566235)

I have never ever heard that even alleged. That statement about no votes being changed has been a normal part of all releases to the press, and it has never been challanged.

The report is, according to my reading, speculate they were trying and that is the next step if we do not stop

Bog99
10-07-2017, 03:16 PM
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Who Real Americans vote for:


Moore’s Victory In Alabama Will Spark More Challenges To RINO’s! Dick Morris TV: Lunch ALERT! - YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c_kIVCPv--8)


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Rockyrd
10-07-2017, 03:24 PM
Nobody is really saying vote counts were physically affected. The question is, how much did Russian propaganda convince people that Hillary was "crooked" or that her emails were nefarious? Little has been made of the fact that Trump had a server directly connected to a Russian bank, but a lot was made of Hillary's server in her basement. I notice also that little is said about emails since Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump have recently been caught using their private email servers for government business.
The Brazenness of Trump's White House Staff Using Private Email - The Atlantic (https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/09/the-brazenness-of-jared-and-ivankas-personal-email-server/541017/)

FBI Investigation of Russian Bank's Link With Trump Organization's Server Ongoing: Report (http://www.newsweek.com/fbi-investigation-trump-organisation-server-russian-lookup-ongoing-report-566235)

Meanwhile, I am not sure if you have reported on the "Trump dossier" but it appears to be staying alive.

Kim Strassel of the WSJ, a strong Trump advocate (she loved Sara Palin) keeps hinting that she thinks the FBI erred with this report for some unstated reason (ONLY thing I hear is it passed from UK).

Anyway, it keeps resurfacing and now is getting more and more attention by the committee....

"Nine months after the publication of an explosive and salacious dossier detailing allegations of collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia, its claims—though largely unverified and vehemently denied by those involved—are the subject of intense scrutiny. Indeed, the investigation into the document compiled by a former British intelligence operative, Christopher Steele, has only increased in scale.

According to reports in recent days, not only has the investigation of the document been turned over to the man leading the Trump-Russia probe, but Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team recently met with Steele. Trump may have called it “totally made-up facts by sleazebag political operatives,” but it is clear it is not going anywhere anytime soon, and continue to plays an important role in the wider investigation into allegations concerning Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. "

Here’s What the 'Golden Shower' Dossier Now Being Investigated by Mueller Claims About Trump and Russia (http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-golden-shower-dossier-679973)

MDLNB
10-08-2017, 04:21 AM
Meanwhile, I am not sure if you have reported on the "Trump dossier" but it appears to be staying alive.

Kim Strassel of the WSJ, a strong Trump advocate (she loved Sara Palin) keeps hinting that she thinks the FBI erred with this report for some unstated reason (ONLY thing I hear is it passed from UK).

Anyway, it keeps resurfacing and now is getting more and more attention by the committee....

"Nine months after the publication of an explosive and salacious dossier detailing allegations of collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia, its claims—though largely unverified and vehemently denied by those involved—are the subject of intense scrutiny. Indeed, the investigation into the document compiled by a former British intelligence operative, Christopher Steele, has only increased in scale.

According to reports in recent days, not only has the investigation of the document been turned over to the man leading the Trump-Russia probe, but Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team recently met with Steele. Trump may have called it “totally made-up facts by sleazebag political operatives,” but it is clear it is not going anywhere anytime soon, and continue to plays an important role in the wider investigation into allegations concerning Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. "

Here’s What the 'Golden Shower' Dossier Now Being Investigated by Mueller Claims About Trump and Russia (http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-golden-shower-dossier-679973)


That dossier is about as relevant as Obama snorting a kilo of coke up his nose when he was in college. The difference is that Obama admits his felony in his book.

Don Baldwin
10-08-2017, 07:36 AM
That dossier is about as relevant as Obama snorting a kilo of coke up his nose when he was in college. The difference is that Obama admits his felony in his book.

They don't care...if someone is "one of them", they can do anything...and it doesn't matter.

How many liberals do you think read Obama's books BEFORE they voted for him?

MDLNB
10-08-2017, 12:40 PM
They don't care...if someone is "one of them", they can do anything...and it doesn't matter.

How many liberals do you think read Obama's books BEFORE they voted for him?

That was a trick question, right? Everyone knows that Liberals only read the talking points that they are given. Well, I guess some of them "listen" to the liberal talking points, rather than reading. Liberals are inherently lazy. That's why so many of them are needy and require assistance from the rich, via income redistribution by the government.

mellincf
10-10-2017, 05:58 PM
Meanwhile, I am not sure if you have reported on the "Trump dossier" but it appears to be staying alive.

Kim Strassel of the WSJ, a strong Trump advocate (she loved Sara Palin) keeps hinting that she thinks the FBI erred with this report for some unstated reason (ONLY thing I hear is it passed from UK).

Anyway, it keeps resurfacing and now is getting more and more attention by the committee....

"Nine months after the publication of an explosive and salacious dossier detailing allegations of collusion between President Donald Trump and Russia, its claims—though largely unverified and vehemently denied by those involved—are the subject of intense scrutiny. Indeed, the investigation into the document compiled by a former British intelligence operative, Christopher Steele, has only increased in scale.

According to reports in recent days, not only has the investigation of the document been turned over to the man leading the Trump-Russia probe, but Special Counsel Robert Mueller’s team recently met with Steele. Trump may have called it “totally made-up facts by sleazebag political operatives,” but it is clear it is not going anywhere anytime soon, and continue to plays an important role in the wider investigation into allegations concerning Russia’s interference in the 2016 election. "

Here’s What the 'Golden Shower' Dossier Now Being Investigated by Mueller Claims About Trump and Russia (http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-golden-shower-dossier-679973) The chairman of the House intelligence committee has issued subpoenas to the partners who run Fusion GPS, the research firm that produced the dossier of memos on alleged Russian efforts to aid the Trump campaign, according to sources briefed on the matter.

The subpoenas -- signed by California Republican Rep. Devin Nunes -- were issued Oct. 4, demanding documents and testimony later this month and early November. Also interesting is the fact that nine Russians who contributed information to the dossier have already died "mysteriously" in Moscow. That's a lot for a "fake". Nine months, nine prominent Russians dead - CNN (http://www.cnn.com/2017/03/24/europe/dead-russians/index.html)

mellincf
10-10-2017, 06:11 PM
That was a trick question, right? Everyone knows that Liberals only read the talking points that they are given. Well, I guess some of them "listen" to the liberal talking points, rather than reading. Liberals are inherently lazy. That's why so many of them are needy and require assistance from the rich, via income redistribution by the government. It's liberals who support Republicans, because Republican conservatives are generally (at most) high school graduates in low paying, blue collar jobs. As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Republican States are the real drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes.
Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8) As an example of how Republicans think: a million more babies are born every four days. It costs taxpayers $250,000 per child to raise one on welfare. Yet it is Republicans who just voted not to pay for birth control for women, while still paying for Viagra. It seems Republicans cannot think 9 months ahead. Is that fiscal responsibility or cognitive dissonance?

MDLNB
10-10-2017, 09:32 PM
It's liberals who support Republicans, because Republican conservatives are generally (at most) high school graduates in low paying, blue collar jobs. As it turns out, it is red states that are overwhelmingly the Welfare Queen States. Republican States are the real drain on the economy, taking in more federal spending than they pay out in federal taxes.
Red States Are Welfare Queens - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/red-states-are-welfare-queens-2011-8) As an example of how Republicans think: a million more babies are born every four days. It costs taxpayers $250,000 per child to raise one on welfare. Yet it is Republicans who just voted not to pay for birth control for women, while still paying for Viagra. It seems Republicans cannot think 9 months ahead. Is that fiscal responsibility or cognitive dissonance?

So that statement proves that you are a elitist snob that is totally contrary to liberal values.

Explain why you feel that Republicans have low paying jobs, and yet the majority of the homes owned in the Villages are owned by Republicans. Kind of contradicts your theory.

Of course, a vote is a vote, whether from a poor or rich person. It seems kind of elitist to want to segregate votes into category, when you still wish to win. If you don't like a vote based on Identity, then you will likely lose a lot of votes. Oh wait, that is exactly what has happened in the last several elections.

mellincf
10-11-2017, 10:12 AM
It bears repeating that Mueller’s investigation is looking at how a hostile foreign power may have sabotaged our democracy, and at whether the Trump campaign colluded with it, and at conduct by Trump himself that came after the election: Whether the firing of former FBI Director James B. Comey after a demand for his loyalty was part of a pattern of obstruction of justice. The first of these has been attested to by our intelligence services, and evidence of the second (at least in the form of a willingness to collude) and the third of these has been unearthed by dogged scrutiny by news outlets. It is hardly an accident that Trump continues to cast doubt on the credibility of both those institutions, even as he and his spokespeople continue to cast the entire affair as an effort to reverse the election by illegitimate means.

mellincf
10-11-2017, 10:53 AM
Switzerland has revealed it is considering an extradition request from Ukraine to hand over the son of a former Kazakh energy minister — facing money-laundering allegations in the United States and charges in Kazakhstan. The Khrapunov family is accused in U.S. lawsuits of “cleaning” illicit money through the purchase and quick resale of U.S. luxury properties, including purchase of three Trump-branded condos in New York.

The gathering legal drama is shining light on Trump business associate Bayrock Group, which involves Kazakh partners who helped develop the Trump SoHo building in New York and projects in Arizona and South Florida. This at a time when Donald Trump’s Russian and foreign ties are under greater scrutiny.

Crucial to Trump and his businesses — and the ability of lawyers to establish whether the Trump Organization had any knowledge of or benefit from any illegal money flows — is whether the United States or Switzerland hears the lawsuits against the Khrapunovs. If prosecutors convince a California court to hear the case, lawyers will have much greater ability to dig for evidence through a process known as discovery; Switzerland’s rules are far more restrictive.

Bog99
10-11-2017, 11:24 AM
Switzerland has revealed it is considering an extradition request from Ukraine to hand over the son of a former Kazakh energy minister — facing money-laundering allegations in the United States and charges in Kazakhstan. The Khrapunov family is accused in U.S. lawsuits of “cleaning” illicit money through the purchase and quick resale of U.S. luxury properties, including purchase of three Trump-branded condos in New York.

The gathering legal drama is shining light on Trump business associate Bayrock Group, which involves Kazakh partners who helped develop the Trump SoHo building in New York and projects in Arizona and South Florida. This at a time when Donald Trump’s Russian and foreign ties are under greater scrutiny.

Crucial to Trump and his businesses — and the ability of lawyers to establish whether the Trump Organization had any knowledge of or benefit from any illegal money flows — is whether the United States or Switzerland hears the lawsuits against the Khrapunovs. If prosecutors convince a California court to hear the case, lawyers will have much greater ability to dig for evidence through a process known as discovery; Switzerland’s rules are far more restrictive.
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EVERYTHING is shady in Russia -- you self-righteous schmuck!

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mellincf
10-12-2017, 10:17 AM
Three congressional committees are scuffling over a former British spy’s reports that are central to investigations into U.S. allegations that Russia tried to help Donald Trump’s 2016 presidential campaign. “As I understand it, a good deal of his information remains unproven, but none of it has been disproven, and considerable amounts of it have been proven,” Democrat Sheldon Whitehouse, a member of the Senate Judiciary Committee, said in an interview with Reuters. In a report published in January four U.S. intelligence agencies said they took the dossier’s allegations seriously.

Despite recusing himself in April from the House Intelligence Committee investigation, the Republican chairman, Devin Nunes, is trying to discredit Steele’s work, sources familiar with the probe said. A Judiciary Committee aide, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said: “The American people need to be able to trust that the FBI and Justice Department are operating free from political influence. That’s what this investigation is about, and we will follow the facts wherever they lead.”

mellincf
10-12-2017, 12:46 PM
Former Trump campaign adviser Carter Page reportedly has informed the Senate Intelligence Committee that he will not agree to turn over documents or be interviewed and will assert his Fifth Amendment right to remain silent. What the committee does next may have implications not only for its own inquiry but also for the criminal investigation being conducted by special counsel Robert S. Mueller III.

mellincf
10-16-2017, 10:11 AM
One thread of the U.S. election investigation is whether someone connected to the Trump campaign, or any other American, helped the Russians. The reason: although Americans generally were aware of the strong nationalist emotions in their midst, few thought they could or would turn the election.

Except, that is, for the Trump campaign, which carried out an unprecedented micro-targeting program that sought simultaneously to stoke anger, fear and other emotions, and to get Hillary Clinton voters to stay home on election day.

In the week of Aug. 8-15, 2015, a page called "Being Patriotic" used the words:

“Illegal" 584 times, "alien" 200 times, and the combined phrase "illegal alien" 156 times.
“Border" 214 times; "Trump" 247 times; and "law" 231 times.
“Criminal alien" (19 times); "sharia law" (21 times); "country illegally" (19 times); and "alien leech" (five times).

Charles King, a professor at Georgetown University and former chairman of its School of Foreign Service:

"Russians were very practiced in seeing the world through an 'ethnicist' lens — the whole Soviet system was built on top of a particular understanding of the role of ethnicity (which translates as 'race' in American) and ethnic cleavages in their own society. If what they were doing was basically exporting this to America, the irony is that it happened to accord pretty well with some core cleavages in this society."

-Axios

mellincf
10-16-2017, 11:25 AM
The Russians who worked for a notorious St. Petersburg “troll factory” that was part of Vladimir Putin’s campaign to influence the 2016 presidential election were required to watch the “House of Cards” television series to help them craft messages to “set up the Americans against their own government,” according to an interview broadcast Sunday (in Russian) with a former member of the troll factory’s elite English language department.

“At first we were forced to watch the ‘House of Cards’ in English,” said Maksim in the interview. It was part of a documented “strategy” in the English language department to fully understand how the American political system works. “It was necessary to know all the main problems of the United States of America. Tax problems, the problem of gays, sexual minorities, weapons,” he said.

Among the major themes the trolls were to write about in their posts were guns and gays. “When it was gays, we almost always had to bring out the religious themes,” he said. “Americans are very religious, especially those [who post] on news sites and write comments. You had to write that sodomy is a sin. That could always get you a couple of dozen ‘likes.’”

mellincf
10-17-2017, 01:31 PM
For the past few years Moscow has been constructing ties with white ethno-state separatists: the same brand that backed Donald Trump with such fervor in the presidential election. Recently, Russia’s gaze has fallen primarily upon Texas and California.

Heart of Texas grew into the most popular Texas secession page on Facebook — one that, at one point in 2016, boasted more followers than the official Texas Democrat and Republican Facebook pages combined. There were oddities about the site. Its organizers had a strangely one-dimensional idea of its subject. They seemed to think, for example, that Texans drank Dr. Pepper at all hours: while driving their giant trucks, while flying their Confederate battle flags, while griping about Yankees and liberals and vegetarians.

While a Trump victory may have taken the wind out of the sails of those who would like to return Texas to nationhood, interest in California’s independence push has spiked following the November election. Trump booster and Silicon Valley mogul Peter Thiel told the New York Times last week he is a proponent of secession. (“I think it would be good for California, good for the rest of the country,” Thiel said. “It would help Mr. Trump’s re-election campaign.”) And thanks to the efforts of both Marinelli and Ionov, California now has its first, if unofficial, “embassy” abroad—located in, of all places, Moscow.

Why Russia Loves the Idea of California Seceding - POLITICO Magazine (http://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2017/01/why-russia-loves-the-idea-of-california-seceding-214632)

mellincf
10-17-2017, 02:32 PM
Alexander Shnaider, a Russian-Canadian developer who built the 65-story Trump International Hotel and Tower, put money into the project after receiving hundreds of millions of dollars from a separate asset sale that involved the Russian bank, whose full name is Vnesheconombank. Mr. Shnaider sold his company's share in a Ukrainian steelmaker for about $850 million in 2010, according to S&P Global Market Intelligence. According to two people with knowledge of the deal, the buyer, which hasn't been identified publicly, was an entity acting for the Russian government. VEB initiated the purchase and provided the money, these people say. U.S. investigators are looking into any ties between Russian financial institutions, Mr. Trump and anyone in his orbit, according to a person familiar with the probe. As part of the investigation, they're examining interactions between Mr. Trump, his associates and VEB, which is now subject to U.S. sanctions, said another person familiar with the matter. The Toronto deal adds a new element to the list of known connections between Mr. Trump's associates and Russia.

dirtbanker
10-17-2017, 02:51 PM
I believe I am in favor of California seceding...does that make me Russian?

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mellincf
10-17-2017, 03:00 PM
President Donald Trump's campaign donors -- big and small -- are increasingly helping to foot the legal expenses the President's campaign and his son, Donald Trump Jr., are facing related to the investigations into allegations of collusion with Russia during the 2016 campaign.

The Trump campaign has raised more than $25 million in the first nine months of this year, $10 million of which was raised between July and the end of September -- during which the campaign paid out more than half of its total legal expenses for the year.
The arrangement raises questions about the motives behind the Trump campaign's unprecedented level of activity for an incumbent president's re-election campaign more than three years before the re-election contest takes place.

dirtbanker
10-17-2017, 03:19 PM
Oh...I feel slighted.

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mellincf
10-17-2017, 06:38 PM
Spicer is the third White House-related official to be interviewed by Robert Meuller's investigators in the past few weeks. Last week, former Chief of Staff Reince Priebus was interviewed and investigators recently interviewed Keith Kellogg, executive secretary of National Security Council.

As CNN previously reported, among the people Mueller has expressed interest in speaking with are former and current White House staffers whom investigators consider witnesses, including Priebus, Spicer, communications director Hope Hicks, White House counsel Don McGahn, communications adviser Josh Raffel and associate counsel James Burnham.
Mueller's investigators are looking for documents and emails relating to the dismissals of national security adviser Michael Flynn and FBI Director James Comey, according to sources familiar with the matter.

In addition, one source confirmed that Mueller's team wants information connected to the Oval Office meeting Trump had with Russian officials in which he bragged about firing Comey, saying it eased pressure on his White House.

mellincf
10-17-2017, 07:08 PM
US investigators believe that a company owned by Vladimir Putin's "chef" financed a “troll factory” that spread fake news during last year's US presidential election. Putin's 'chef,' the man behind the troll factory - CNNPolitics (http://cnn.it/2iicx4J)

dirtbanker
10-17-2017, 07:33 PM
US investigators believe that a company owned by Vladimir Putin's "chef" financed a “troll factory” that spread fake news during last year's US presidential election. Putin's 'chef,' the man behind the troll factory - CNNPolitics (http://cnn.it/2iicx4J)Why didn't Obamma do anything about this?? We could have went to war! Nope, Obamma was too busy giving Crooked Hillary a rim job...

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dirtbanker
10-17-2017, 07:34 PM
US investigators believe that a company owned by Vladimir Putin's "chef" financed a “troll factory” that spread fake news during last year's US presidential election. Putin's 'chef,' the man behind the troll factory - CNNPolitics (http://cnn.it/2iicx4J)Hey Rockface - a "troll factory" no less...you have to be concerned about that!!

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mellincf
10-18-2017, 08:20 PM
Some of the Trump campaign’s most prominent names and supporters, including Trump’s campaign manager, digital director and son, pushed tweets from professional trolls paid by the Russian government in the heat of the 2016 election campaign.

The Twitter account @Ten_GOP, which called itself the “Unofficial Twitter account of Tennessee Republicans,” was operated from the Kremlin-backed “Russian troll farm,” or Internet Research Agency, a source familiar with the account confirmed with The Daily Beast.

The discovery of the now-unavailable tweets presents the first evidence that several members of the Trump campaign pushed covert Russian propaganda on social media in the run-up to the 2016 election.

President Trump’s son Donald Trump Jr. followed the account until its closure on August 23rd of this year. Trump Jr. retweeted the account three times, including an allegation of voter fraud in Florida one week before the election.

The account notably pushed for Flynn’s reappointment as Trump’s national security advisor, a job Flynn lost after press revelations that he’d lied about his telephone discussions with the Russian ambassador after the election hacks. It also repeatedly pushed Breitbart-backed talking points, including a fake news story about a gang rape in Twin Falls, Idaho that merited dozens of articles from Breitbart News.

mellincf
10-20-2017, 11:29 PM
White House cyber security coordinator Rob Joyce did not appear before the committee on Thursday, as requested, to discuss cyber threats facing the United States. His vacant seat drew frustration from lawmakers in both parties.

Senator John McCain suggested on Thursday that the Senate Armed Services Committee, the powerful congressional panel he chairs, may consider issuing a subpoena to make the White House's top cyber security official testify.

mellincf
10-23-2017, 02:10 PM
Trump has been hinting that he might fire Mueller if the investigation looks too closely at his business dealings.

It would be impossible to gain a full understanding of the various points of contact between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign without scrutinizing many of the deals that Trump has made in the past decade. Trump-branded buildings in Toronto and the SoHo neighborhood of Manhattan were developed in association with people who have connections to the Kremlin. Other real-estate partners of the Trump Organization—in Brazil, India, Indonesia, and elsewhere—are now caught up in corruption probes, and, collectively, they suggest that the company had a pattern of working with partners who exploited their proximity to political power.

One foreign deal, a stalled 2011 plan to build a Trump Tower in Batumi, a city on the Black Sea in the Republic of Georgia, involved unorthodox financial practices that several experts described to me as “red flags” for bank fraud and money laundering; moreover, it intertwined his company with a Kazakh oligarch who has direct links to Russia’s President, Vladimir Putin. As a result, Putin and his security services have access to information that could put them in a position to blackmail Trump.

Much, much more on this deal here: Trump’s Business of Corruption | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption)

Don Baldwin
10-23-2017, 02:14 PM
Trump has been hinting that he might fire Mueller if the investigation looks too closely at his business dealings.

It would be impossible to gain a full understanding of the various points of contact between the Kremlin and the Trump campaign without scrutinizing many of the deals that Trump has made in the past decade. Trump-branded buildings in Toronto and the SoHo neighborhood of Manhattan were developed in association with people who have connections to the Kremlin. Other real-estate partners of the Trump Organization—in Brazil, India, Indonesia, and elsewhere—are now caught up in corruption probes, and, collectively, they suggest that the company had a pattern of working with partners who exploited their proximity to political power.

One foreign deal, a stalled 2011 plan to build a Trump Tower in Batumi, a city on the Black Sea in the Republic of Georgia, involved unorthodox financial practices that several experts described to me as “red flags” for bank fraud and money laundering; moreover, it intertwined his company with a Kazakh oligarch who has direct links to Russia’s President, Vladimir Putin. As a result, Putin and his security services have access to information that could put them in a position to blackmail Trump.

Much, much more on this deal here: Trump’s Business of Corruption | The New Yorker (https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/08/21/trumps-business-of-corruption)

The ENTIRE banking system is FRAUD.