Credit for What?

[Paper1]

The President and members of Congress are all lined up taking bows for passing an emergency spending bill for disaster relief while raising the debt limit. From what I can see both parties are getting rave reviews for "working together". But really how much credit can you give them for simply printing and borrowing more money and not asking anyone to pay for it. All the while talking about the biggest tax cut in American history. There is not spit difference between Trump, Pelosi, and the rest. Make America great again my ass.

[mellincf]

The President and members of Congress are all lined up taking bows for passing an emergency spending bill for disaster relief while raising the debt limit. From what I can see both parties are getting rave reviews for "working together". But really how much credit can you give them for simply printing and borrowing more money and not asking anyone to pay for it. All the while talking about the biggest tax cut in American history. There is not spit difference between Trump, Pelosi, and the rest. Make America great again my ass.
How much longer can we afford to bail out cities that build 50 feet above sea level and then put thousands of miles of pavement on top of floodplains? How much money are we going to throw at people who deny climate science and rebuild over and over in hurricane zones? Leaders have either mostly ignored long-term considerations of climate change, as has Texas Governor Greg Abbott, or who, like Florida Governor Rick Scott, have actively suppressed discussion of the concept. That chemical plant which exploded near Houston was the result of Texas politicians taking half a million dollars to fight safety rules of the EPA. Texas won’t use their own disaster relief fund and doesn’t deserve a dime of our money.

[Don Baldwin]

How much longer can we afford to bail out cities that build 50 feet above sea level and then put thousands of miles of pavement on top of floodplains? How much money are we going to throw at people who deny climate science and rebuild over and over in hurricane zones? Leaders have either mostly ignored long-term considerations of climate change, as has Texas Governor Greg Abbott, or who, like Florida Governor Rick Scott, have actively suppressed discussion of the concept. That chemical plant which exploded near Houston was the result of Texas politicians taking half a million dollars to fight safety rules of the EPA. Texas won’t use their own disaster relief fund and doesn’t deserve a dime of our money.

What do YOU care? They BORROW it all. Nobody will pay it back.

[Carl in Tampa]

mellincf

How much longer can we afford to bail out cities that build 50 feet above sea level and then put thousands of miles of pavement on top of floodplains? How much money are we going to throw at people who deny climate science and rebuild over and over in hurricane zones? Leaders have either mostly ignored long-term considerations of climate change, as has Texas Governor Greg Abbott, or who, like Florida Governor Rick Scott, have actively suppressed discussion of the concept. That chemical plant which exploded near Houston was the result of Texas politicians taking half a million dollars to fight safety rules of the EPA. Texas won’t use their own disaster relief fund and doesn’t deserve a dime of our money.

Unfortunately, people will always want to live and work in floodplains. For agriculture the floodplains are the richest soil. Farmers have lived and worked along the Nile in Egypt from time immemorial.

Some of the most beautiful views in the world are alongside of bodies of water. Go almost anywhere and you will find that a piece of property on the water costs more than property of the same size a half-mile away.

If people were daunted by natural disasters, San Francisco would never have been built. Nor New Orleans. Nor would the Florida Keys be occupied after a long series of hurricanes over the decades.

Rebuilding has nothing to do with the nonsensical allegation that these people are "deniers of climate science," a ridiculous phrase in itself.

Your drivel about fighting the EPA causing the chemical plant discharge needs documentation before I would believe it. Are you alleging that the plant did not meet all legal requirements? You have proof?

Where did you get the idea that Texas is not spending their Disaster Relief Fund money? Documentation?

I find it more disturbing that Obama's EPA prevented construction of more oil refining facilities in other states for the past eight years, resulting in severe constriction of the gasoline supply due to one natural disaster.

Yes, the oil supply is ample, but without means to refine it, the cost of gas has gone up.

That must change.


Carl in Tampa

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[billethkid]

It would be an interesting hypothesis to study....what if the refineries in the TX area were destroyed and no hope of any out for a minimum of one year or more.

Seems to me I read some where that it takes 10 years to build a refinery (??)....

Here was the concern in 2005;

No New Refineries in 29 Years? There Might Well Be a Reason - The New York Times (http://www.nytimes.com/2005/05/09/business/no-new-refineries-in-29-years-there-might-well-be-a-reason.html?mcubz=0)

What has been done since?

The catastrophic events that interrupt steady state America should be wake up calls to those who govern our states and country.

But they are not.
The America as we know it is running on an antiquated infrastructure, power grid, supply system et al.

The politicians ....if they were firemen......would wait until the until they actually see the flames before doing anything......better known as too late.....just like all our other vulnerabilities.