IRMA/Priority Golf Memberships

[swooner]

Seems fair that the Villages Golf Administration would extend all Priority Golf Memberships for the number of days that courses are not available for play. Granted, IRMA was a natural disaster not caused by Golfers or Golf Administration. Since Priority Memberships are prepaid it would seem fair that no one profit from the effects of a hurricane, accordingly an extension of Priority memberships should not represent a cost to golfers nor should it result in a profit for TV Golf Adm. Only fair solution would be an extension of all Priority Memberships for the total number of days that courses are not available for play.

[dewilson58]

Pretend they were rainy days.

I don't remember any guarantees for number of golfing days with a Priority Membership.

:throwtomatoes:

[swooner]

Pretend they were rainy days.

I don't remember any guarantees for number of golfing days with a Priority Membership.

:throwtomatoes:

Appears to me that you missed the point of the original post which is not addressed by your comment. The disguised subject matter is fairness, not who's right and who's wrong.

[dewilson58]

Fully understand the OP's point.

I'm not one to feel entitled.

One's opinion, "Only fair solution would be an extension......"
Wow......the only fair solution.

VGA is not profiting by not extending........they collected the same priority fee with or without Irma, with or without rain, with or without frost, with or without sink holes, with or without course closures.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

I doubt this would gain traction unless the courses stay closed for an extended period of time. They won't even pro-rate for medical issues that last less than 90 days.

[paulajr]

Not like they aren't losing TONS of $ by being closed and having to clean up ..or anything. Just feel blessed. I'm sucking up the 2 or 3 weeks Prioriry I paid for and thanking GOD things weren't worse!!!!

[jsw14]

I say, take ur golf clubs Off ur cart & go Play with some other toy's U have. U just might enjoy a different view of TV....

[kcrazorbackfan]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's good. Best laugh I've had all day. Contact the folks at GMS about this and relay to us you findings. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

[justjim]

The cost to put our Courses back into reasonable playing condition will be substantial. Everyday the championship courses are closed because of Irma is a substantial lost of income for the owner.

In addition there is a dollar cost associated with extending priority memberships as suggested by the OP.
Enough said........

Any ideas how these losses might be made up? You got it!

[rjn5656]

this might be the rest our golf courses needed

[TimeForChange]

Don't hold your breath while waiting.

[rubicon]

Seems fair that the Villages Golf Administration would extend all Priority Golf Memberships for the number of days that courses are not available for play. Granted, IRMA was a natural disaster not caused by Golfers or Golf Administration. Since Priority Memberships are prepaid it would seem fair that no one profit from the effects of a hurricane, accordingly an extension of Priority memberships should not represent a cost to golfers nor should it result in a profit for TV Golf Adm. Only fair solution would be an extension of all Priority Memberships for the total number of days that courses are not available for play.

swooner, actually I understand your frustration. However the bigger question you should answer is if buying Priority is cost effective for you, Consider your break even point. Do you play with a foursome that also has priority membership? if you are the only one in your group it may not be getting you the results you seek.

I was a Priority member for six years and after doing a cost/ benefit analysis found it was not cost effective. for one thing because I was the only one in my foursome it meant little as to preferred tee times;albeit you do play at reduced rates

Personal Best Regards:

[Regor]

I have to agree with the OP. It would be nice.
Would all you the nay sayers be so agreeable if the electric company's charged you during a power outage? They certainly are taking a huge hit on the repair costs. I don't think anyone would agree to pay them $20 per week for power that you couldn't get.

[Mleeja]

I have to agree with the OP. It would be nice.
Would all you the nay sayers be so agreeable if the electric company's charged you during a power outage? They certainly are taking a huge hit on the repair costs. I don't think anyone would agree to pay them $20 per week for power that you couldn't get.

Apples and oranges. Electricity is charged on a per usage basis. If it is out, you are not being charged. A better comparison is paying more for less water usage. But that is a different thread...:laugh: Maybe we should get an extension on our trail fees as well! I just renewed mine, dang it. :024: Maybe we could file a FEMA claim? Consider yourself lucky the biggest thing you have to worry about is if your priority membership is going to be extended....:icon_bored:

[rubicon]

I have to agree with the OP. It would be nice.
Would all you the nay sayers be so agreeable if the electric company's charged you during a power outage? They certainly are taking a huge hit on the repair costs. I don't think anyone would agree to pay them $20 per week for power that you couldn't get.

Actually a number of companies extent credits if they fail to deliver Comcast does my newspaper does, etc.

However you are never going to get TV to comply nor are you going to get much if any of the membership of TOTV to say or do anything against anyone or anything connected to TV. Don't ask me why? it has confused me since living here and its circular thinking . if a landscaper does something wrong all hell breaks loose. however if the Developer does the same thing or worse anyone calling the Developer to task is according to this group complaining because, they are envious, never satisfied..... ??????????????????

Personal Best Regards:

[Count'n the days]

District Manager, Janet Tutt, reported that 97-98% of the cost of The Villages cleanup would be covered by insurance and FEMA. Maybe they will credit our priority memberships 97-98% during the time we are unable to use what we've paid for.

[Rapscallion St Croix]

It was an act of God. I shall recoup my losses by discontinuing my tithe.

[rubicon]

It was an act of God. I shall recoup my losses by discontinuing my tithe.

More precisely, it was indeed "an act of God" but also "an insurable Act of God" You may want to check with your insurance company and see if they will pay your tithing fees for the year:D

[MrGolf]

How about putting in a claim with FEMA?? Probably will get the same result other than you can blame it on the Federal Government

[rubicon]

Apples and oranges. Electricity is charged on a per usage basis. If it is out, you are not being charged. A better comparison is paying more for less water usage. But that is a different thread...:laugh: Maybe we should get an extension on our trail fees as well! I just renewed mine, dang it. :024: Maybe we could file a FEMA claim? Consider yourself lucky the biggest thing you have to worry about is if your priority membership is going to be extended....:icon_bored:

The unit measure for Priority Fees and Trail Fees, is based on calendar days therefor it is quantifiable . As it stands now may not be worth the extra effort but if the closure continues it will have a material affect on residents.

some spoke to the issue that TVLSI was losing funds. maybe and maybe insurance covered their loss of income and even it they did not have a covered loss it would be their cost of doing business

Imagine how much oil companies make on that 1/10 of a penny per gallon of gas given the thousands of gas stations crossing the nation and millions and millions of gallons of gas being pumped 24/7

personal Best Regards:

[Rapscallion St Croix]

More precisely, it was indeed "an act of God" but also "an insurable Act of God" You may want to check with your insurance company and see if they will pay your tithing fees for the year:D

I didn't think to insure my Priority Membership or my GHIN service. After further analysis, I have been informed by the wife that I am actually saving money by having the courses closed.

[Bosoxfan]

Fully understand the OP's point.

I'm not one to feel entitled.

One's opinion, "Only fair solution would be an extension......"
Wow......the only fair solution.

VGA is not profiting by not extending........they collected the same priority fee with or without Irma, with or without rain, with or without frost, with or without sink holes, with or without course closures.

:bigbow:

[Bosoxfan]

this might be the rest our golf courses needed

:bigbow:

[justjim]

this might be the rest our golf courses needed

Are you kidding? Standing water on a golf course doesn't rest the course. Standing water does extensive damage to the course including greens, tees and the fairways. The costs to put the golf courses back to a reasonable playable condition will likely be in the thousands of dollars. Some of these costs could be passed on to golfers. :ohdear:

[Cobh521]

I guess people will want the trail fees extended also

[JoMar]

So sad....but glad that attititude is the minority

[swooner]

The cost to put our Courses back into reasonable playing condition will be substantial. Everyday the championship courses are closed because of Irma is a substantial lost of income for the owner.

In addition there is a dollar cost associated with extending priority memberships as suggested by the OP.
Enough said........

Any ideas how these losses might be made up? You got it!

Most other courses in the area were open ten days ago!

[Bogie Shooter]

Most other courses in the area were open ten days ago!

So what does that mean? Just trying to understand your point.

[swooner]

So what does that mean? Just trying to understand your point.

Simply stated, most golf courses in the area were open 10 days ago. What's not to understand about that?

[Bogie Shooter]

Apples and oranges.

[JoMar]

Simply stated, most golf courses in the area were open 10 days ago. What's not to understand about that?

An irrelevent statement

[Two Bills]

Most other courses in the area were open ten days ago!
Most courses outside the bubble, are not designed as water catchment areas, to save flooding in residential areas.
From some of the reports on here, many of the courses outside, were in a poor state, and would have been better not opened.

[Dukester]

Played a few courses outside TV, glad we have our 12 Championship courses and glad I am not investing in the 12, as this year will likely be a loser for the Investors. Recall the Northern years of my life and lucky if I got in 4 months of any steady golf, while paying my yearly dues and quarterly clubhouse and pro shop dues. No guarantees, there also. I will take the hurricane loss straight up with a smile, rested my body at Mission Inn and say thank you Lord for finding this place, it is like heaven for a true golfing fanatic and might I add a person who enjoys the 19th hole. Take my money as I know you will and please don't raises the prices for next year more than a buck or two, but since the math keeps working, I will still get another Priority membership in 2018. PS: Palmer was in good shape this past week, considering, look forward to this week on Cane and Mallory and the rest as they start opening.
Lets pray for those in Vegas and the US and the Islands and be grateful for what we have been given.

[CaptainMorgan]

I am with dewilson58. Just pretend they were rainy days and be thankful IRMA didn't do more damage here. $hit happens.

[rubicon]

I guess people will want the trail fees extended also

cobh521: Interesting statement. I played yesterday and was standing behind a neighbor who seldom plays. the starter explained he had to pay $4 because he had not paid his trail fees. His wife does not play golf.

I pay my trail fees annually but walk except for June July August. so as I listened to this starter I wondered to my self since I pay my trail fees for using my cart on this course shouldn't it be a pro quo quid arrangement that if I walk I am refunded a portion of that trail fee.:D Never mind

[rubicon]

This talk of the expenses incurred by TVLSI as respects the championship courses and insurance is accurate. TVLSI has an event that is covered and the expenses and loss of income associated with this claim should be paid less a deductible the amount of insurance recovery depends on the policy they purchased.

also consider that the courses in TV charge more than many of the courses in the surrounding area.

Why it is taking so long? But the insurance carrier is not going to pay them any longer than it deems it is actually needed.

as to executive courses. I played only twice since Irma and both courses were fine and the greens fast .

I always give benefit of the doubt

[mdticket]

There has not been a time after the first week that I have not gotten a tee time! What's the beef? S..t happens!