Learning center lawsuit

[sam&rog]

Law suit against the Learning center update.
Today's Daily Sun said the law firm representing the hearing impaired got 1.3 million and the plaintiff's $212,500.
Where did the money come from? Amenity fees or what?

[Topspinmo]

FDBLs! What's wrong with this country. Lawyers/politicians make the law so they get paid reguardless. Lawyers welfare.

[kstew43]

Good question......,where is the money coming from?

[Topspinmo]

I'm sure it came from that money tree we all contribute to each month and at the end of the year in taxes.

[graciegirl]

It makes me furious that this happened. I think the law protecting disabled isn't supposed to work like this. I am angry at those who brought suit. THAT is my opinion.

[graciegirl]

Good question......,where is the money coming from?

???????? You are mad at the wrong thing. IN MY OPINION.

[manaboutown]

It was a shakedown.

[Topspinmo]

It makes me furious that this happened. I think the law protecting disabled isn't supposed to work like this. I am angry at those who brought suit. THAT is my opinion.

Agreed

[Topspinmo]

It was a shakedown.

Don't you mean setup

[Topspinmo]

???????? You are mad at the wrong thing. IN MY OPINION.


Agreed, should be mad at the scumbag lawyer/lawyers. I'm hearing impaired, think I'll file suit against the law firm for discrimination?

[manaboutown]

shakedown Definition in the Cambridge English Dictionary (http://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/shakedown)

[Kahuna32162]

Wasn't this lawsuit, in part, because of the arrogance of TV's in responDing to the law and the legal rights of the hearing impaired population?

[graciegirl]

Wasn't this lawsuit, in part, because of the arrogance of TV's in responDing to the law and the legal rights of the hearing impaired population?

NO it was not. NO.

[manaboutown]

ADA lawsuit abuse is rampant. Many serial filers make a fine living at it. ADA Abuse (http://www.adaabuse.com)

[champion6]

Law suit against the Learning center update.
Today's Daily Sun said the law firm representing the hearing impaired got 1.3 million and the plaintiff's $212,500.
Where did the money come from? Amenity fees or what?The article says "... the federal lawsuit against The Villages Charter School ..."
Since the Sumter County School Board granted approval for The Villages to develop a charter school, can one assume that the Sumter County School District is paying the settlement?

[graciegirl]

The article says "... the federal lawsuit against The Villages Charter School ..."
Since the Sumter County School Board granted approval for The Villages to develop a charter school, can one assume that the Sumter County School District is paying the settlement?

NO. It has to be The Villages fault. Some will not rest until it is. I don't know if it is jealousy of the Morse's wealth or that they don't like a successful capitalist venture or they just want to run things.

Sorry Champion, you are one of the good guys, who quell rumors and correct misinformation and give good info too.

[RErmer]

Graciegirl, I so agree with you. The amount the attorneys get as compared to the plaintiffs is criminal.

[CWGUY]

Graciegirl, I so agree with you. The amount the attorneys get as compared to the plaintiffs is criminal.

:jester: A disaster = When a bus load of attorneys goes off a cliff.

A catastrophe = When you find out there were two empty seats.:oops:

[CFrance]

Bottom line for me: if they followed the law, there would have been no lawsuit. Even if you don't like the law, you must follow it while you work to change it. No exceptions. That's been crammed down my throat by my uber conservative parents & relatives from Day One. All through the '60s & '70s when we young folk were trying to effect change.

Why is it okay for some to not follow the law when it's inconvenient or too expensive?

[CWGUY]

Bottom line for me: if they followed the law, there would have been no lawsuit. Even if you don't like the law, you must follow it while you work to change it. No exceptions. That's been crammed down my throat by my uber conservative parents & relatives from Day One. All through the '60s & '70s when we young folk were trying to effect change.

Why is it okay for some to not follow the law when it's inconvenient or too expensive?

:confused: Please read the link in post 14. Every coin has two sides.

[CFrance]

I have read it. I know what's going on. If the law is broken, change it. Otherwise, follow it. Why would you (LLC) even pull something like that knowing what might happen? To me it was irresponsible on the developer's part and cost some people a boat load of money. We just don't know who is footing this bill. But I'm afraid it might not be the developer.

[Mleeja]

Bottom line for me: if they followed the law, there would have been no lawsuit. Even if you don't like the law, you must follow it while you work to change it. No exceptions. That's been crammed down my throat by my uber conservative parents & relatives from Day One. All through the '60s & '70s when we young folk were trying to effect change.

Why is it okay for some to not follow the law when it's inconvenient or too expensive?

It is not necessarily a case of not following the law. "Reasonable accomidations" can have many interpretations. It is not like The Charter School failed to try and provide reasonable accommodations, the Judge in this case decided they did not do enough.

[Carl in Tampa]

It is not necessarily a case of not following the law. "Reasonable accomidations" can have many interpretations. It is not like The Charter School failed to try and provide reasonable accommodations, the Judge in this case decided they did not do enough.

From what I read in the original thread regarding this case, it appeared to me that the cost of providing an ASL professional signer for many of the courses would have cost more for the signer than was being received in fees from the students for the courses. I am amazed that the attorneys for the defendants could not make a case for the concept that it would be "unreasonable" to require ASL signers in such situations.

I would have thought that the school would have pursued the case to higher courts in an attempt to get the original verdict reversed.

[njbchbum]

:jester: A disaster = When a bus load of attorneys goes off a cliff.

A catastrophe = When you find out there were two empty seats.:oops:

What is black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?
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A doberman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Fred R]

So......how about those Bengals?

[pauld315]

Insurance probably paid it

[joldnol]

I am fully behind the ADA but abuse is rampant......there is a lady and her lawyer shaking down small businesses in Jacksonville.

[joldnol]

Disabled Jacksonville woman sues 40 Jacksonville businesses for discrimination | WJAX-TV (http://www.actionnewsjax.com/news/local/disabled-jacksonville-woman-sues-40-jacksonville-businesses-for-discrimination/571350901)

[CFrance]

What is black and brown and looks good on a lawyer?
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A doberman!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That's a slam on Dobermans.

[Hopeful2]

OK ...enough with the lawyer jokes. There are honorable and less than honorable people in every profession.

[JoMar]

And because of all this, we lost a valuable resource. CF is right in one respect, accommodations for the minority will be paid by the minority. Those that use the new iteration of the "college" will pay more. I also fear that as this place grows the lawsuits will increase. Attorney's can smell deep pockets and the deeper they get the more the attorneys show up. I suspect that sooner or later we will pay for those lawsuits but I guess we will all feel better because we have made the accommodations......or, for some of us, not.

[rubicon]

The ADA rules are quite clear. The Villages operated a learning college and they did so understanding their demographic. I would agree that accommodating the disabled can be problematic. Been there done that. But it is the law.

People gripe about the amount the plaintiff's and attorneys made on this case.

Those of us here then recall the amounts of awards for the plaintiffs and their attorney in the POA's suit against the Developer stemming from the amenities dispute. The amenities suit was filed and settled within 15 months. Not bad change for 15 months work at all

So let me ask what are the differences between the plaintiffs and lawyers in the learning college suit to that of the plaintiffs in the POA amenities suit?

And as to the Developer a reminder "Pride cometh before a fall"

As to funding for this lawsuit The Villages needs to be transparent. The IRS dispute caused/created by the actions of the Developer was paid for by amenity funds

I'll make an educated guess and say we footed the bill again.

As a side bar I had asked those powers to be suggesting early on that the liability carrier ( E&O) be contacted to see if they would provide coverage for the IRS dispute because it was an error created by officers/officials of The Villages.

[rivaridger1]

Laws are enacted by " the peoples " elected representatives. That means, if you have voted to elect a local assemblymen, a state or U.S. senator or congress person, you have authorized them to act on your behalf in enacting new law and amending or nullifying old law. Attorneys, to protect the interests of their clients try to convince judges and juries to agree with their interpretation of the law. " The people " also often times elect the judges.

How many of you, who are after all "the people " have written to your elected representatives and told them the law as applied to this situation is unjust and needs to be changed ? How many have again written to your elected representatives and told them lawyers are abusing the laws they have enacted and new law needs to be considered to prevent further abuse ?

Until you do so, you have no reason to complain. You are the problem, not the law your representative enacted on your behalf, nor the lawyer attempting to interpret it to benefit his client and himself.

No I am not a lawyer, but they are very much a necessity in our very complex social and legal system.

[ednetdl]

As long as we keep electing people who only respond to donors (in this case lawyers), and not to what is best for constituents, we will continue to get laws that allow for abuse like this. Don't blame the lawyers, look inward and think before you vote.

[manaboutown]

As I see this particular situation common sense went out the window. It was and is all about the money.

[ukbill70]

OK ...enough with the lawyer jokes. There are honorable and less than honorable people in every profession.

True, but they are harder to find in the legal profession.

[rubicon]

As I see this particular situation common sense went out the window. It was and is all about the money.

the trouble with "common sense" is that we all have our own version. It would appear "common sense" to me that if you organized a formal educational venture that you would be certain that you have met the laws/regulation state/federal in order to operate within such laws.

The underlying problem here nd i referenced in my previous post is that some residents lose objectivity with anything remotely connected to the Developer/The Villages. I'll make a huge wage that if Trump said ADA rules ought to be ignored there would be such a backlash from MSM.

[kstew43]

As I see this particular situation common sense went out the window. It was and is all about the money.

so true.....and in the end....the developer (with our money) shut down and walked away and lost anyway....

[Tom2172]

Is this the future for the villages? Villages has deep pockets $$$ lawyers love to sue companies with deep pockets and no matter how ridiculous the lawsuit the lawyers always end up with the money

[yesi3putt2]

OK ...enough with the lawyer jokes. There are honorable and less than honorable people in every profession.

I agree...99% of all lawyers give the remaining 1% a bad name

[Paper1]

Is this the future for the villages? Villages has deep pockets $$$ lawyers love to sue companies with deep pockets and no matter how ridiculous the lawsuit the lawyers always end up with the money

I agree with you but that is what America is about now, something for nothing. It's enough to make one want to take a knee before the game.