An inconvenient truth

[larbud]

A bit long but worth the read..


From a friend..

Trump's lack of decorum, dignity, and statesmanship.

My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.”

Here’s my answer:

We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.
We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?

We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?
And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.

I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”

The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today. The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety. With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America ’s first wartime president in the Culture War.

During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”
General George Patton was a vulgar-talking, son-of-a-bitch. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.

Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!”

That is just the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.

Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after “the fake media” — and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri — Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal.
Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.” ... Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ... They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve.

It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive. Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s church.. Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up.

So, to my friends on the Left — and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do. These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years. So, say anything you want about this president - I get it - he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights for America! *written by Evan Sayet*

[CowBubba]

The guy above just found out that America is a NON SPECIFIC RELIGION COUNTRY and A NON SPECIFIC RACE COUNTRY. God bless our young people as they are less prejudice than the GOOD OLE WHITE BOYs of yesteryear.

[Don Baldwin]

The guy above just found out that America is a NON SPECIFIC RELIGION COUNTRY and A NON SPECIFIC RACE COUNTRY. God bless our young people as they are less prejudice than the GOOD OLE WHITE BOYs of yesteryear.

White people are now 49% of the population...minorities are 51%...within 30 years, whites will be around 20% and minorities will be 80%. America will no longer exist.

Your great granddaughters will curse you for what you allowed to happen. America will be "Mexico II"...not a pleasant place to live.

[MDLNB]

A bit long but worth the read..


From a friend..

Trump's lack of decorum, dignity, and statesmanship.

My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.”

Here’s my answer:

We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.
We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?

We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?
And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.

I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”

The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today. The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety. With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America ’s first wartime president in the Culture War.

During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”
General George Patton was a vulgar-talking, son-of-a-bitch. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.

Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!”

That is just the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.

Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after “the fake media” — and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri — Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal.
Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.” ... Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ... They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve.

It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive. Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s church.. Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up.

So, to my friends on the Left — and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do. These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years. So, say anything you want about this president - I get it - he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights for America! *written by Evan Sayet*


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[Byte1]

A bit long but worth the read..


From a friend..

Trump's lack of decorum, dignity, and statesmanship.

My Leftist friends (as well as many ardent #NeverTrumpers) constantly ask me if I’m not bothered by Donald Trump’s lack of decorum. They ask if I don’t think his tweets are “beneath the dignity of the office.”

Here’s my answer:

We Right-thinking people have tried dignity. There could not have been a man of more quiet dignity than George W. Bush as he suffered the outrageous lies and politically motivated hatreds that undermined his presidency.
We tried statesmanship. Could there be another human being on this earth who so desperately prized “collegiality” as John McCain?

We tried propriety – has there been a nicer human being ever than Mitt Romney?
And the results were always the same. This is because, while we were playing by the rules of dignity, collegiality and propriety, the Left has been, for the past 60 years, engaged in a knife fight where the only rules are those of Saul Alinsky and the Chicago mob.

I don’t find anything “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper” about Barack Obama’s lying about what went down on the streets of Ferguson in order to ramp up racial hatreds because racial hatreds serve the Democratic Party. I don’t see anything “dignified” in lying about the deaths of four Americans in Benghazi and imprisoning an innocent filmmaker to cover your tracks. I don’t see anything “statesman-like” in weaponizing the IRS to be used to destroy your political opponents and any dissent. Yes, Obama was “articulate” and “polished” but in no way was he in the least bit “dignified,” “collegial” or “proper.”

The Left has been engaged in a war against America since the rise of the Children of the ‘60s. To them, it has been an all-out war where nothing is held sacred and nothing is seen as beyond the pale. It has been a war they’ve fought with violence, the threat of violence, demagoguery and lies from day one – the violent take-over of the universities – till today. The problem is that, through these years, the Left has been the only side fighting this war. While the Left has been taking a knife to anyone who stands in their way, the Right has continued to act with dignity, collegiality and propriety. With Donald Trump, this all has come to an end. Donald Trump is America ’s first wartime president in the Culture War.

During wartime, things like “dignity” and “collegiality” simply aren’t the most essential qualities one looks for in their warriors. Ulysses Grant was a drunk whose behavior in peacetime might well have seen him drummed out of the Army for conduct unbecoming. Had Abraham Lincoln applied the peacetime rules of propriety and booted Grant, the Democrats might well still be holding their slaves today. Lincoln rightly recognized that, “I cannot spare this man. He fights.”
General George Patton was a vulgar-talking, son-of-a-bitch. In peacetime, this might have seen him stripped of rank. But, had Franklin Roosevelt applied the normal rules of decorum then, Hitler and the Socialists would barely be five decades into their thousand-year Reich.

Trump is fighting. And what’s particularly delicious is that, like Patton standing over the battlefield as his tanks obliterated Rommel’s, he’s shouting, “You magnificent bastards, I read your book!”

That is just the icing on the cake, but it’s wonderful to see that not only is Trump fighting, he’s defeating the Left using their own tactics. That book is Saul Alinsky’s Rules for Radicals – a book so essential to the Liberals’ war against America that it is and was the playbook for the entire Obama administration and the subject of Hillary Clinton’s senior thesis. It is a book of such pure evil, that, just as the rest of us would dedicate our book to those we most love or those to whom we are most indebted, Alinsky dedicated his book to Lucifer.

Trump’s tweets may seem rash and unconsidered but, in reality, he is doing exactly what Alinsky suggested his followers do. First, instead of going after “the fake media” — and they are so fake that they have literally gotten every single significant story of the past 60 years not just wrong, but diametrically opposed to the truth, from the Tet Offensive to Benghazi, to what really happened on the streets of Ferguson, Missouri — Trump isolated CNN. He made it personal.
Then, just as Alinsky suggests, he employs ridicule which Alinsky described as “the most powerful weapon of all.” ... Most importantly, Trump’s tweets have put CNN in an untenable and unwinnable position. ... They need to respond. This leaves them with only two choices. They can either “go high” (as Hillary would disingenuously declare of herself and the fake news would disingenuously report as the truth) and begin to honestly and accurately report the news or they can double-down on their usual tactics and hope to defeat Trump with twice their usual hysteria and demagoguery. The problem for CNN (et al.) with the former is that, if they were to start honestly reporting the news, that would be the end of the Democratic Party they serve.

It is nothing but the incessant use of fake news (read: propaganda) that keeps the Left alive. Imagine, for example, if CNN had honestly and accurately reported then-candidate Barack Obama’s close ties to foreign terrorists (Rashid Khalidi), domestic terrorists (William Ayers), the mafia (Tony Rezko) or the true evils of his spiritual mentor, Jeremiah Wright’s church.. Imagine if they had honestly and accurately conveyed the evils of the Obama administration’s weaponizing of the IRS to be used against their political opponents or his running of guns to the Mexican cartels or the truth about the murder of Ambassador Christopher Stevens and the Obama administration’s cover-up.

So, to my friends on the Left — and the #NeverTrumpers as well — do I wish we lived in a time when our president could be “collegial” and “dignified” and “proper”? Of course I do. These aren’t those times. This is war. And it’s a war that the Left has been fighting without opposition for the past 50 years. So, say anything you want about this president - I get it - he can be vulgar, he can be crude, he can be undignified at times. I don’t care. I can’t spare this man. He fights for America! *written by Evan Sayet*

It's a bit long, but I believe that it expresses the feeling of many conservatives, and even some Democrats that also believe that many in our country are veering way too left.

[villagerjack]

Good post. The Left is out to destroy this Country, the Constitution and White People.

[villagerjack]

The guy above just found out that America is a NON SPECIFIC RELIGION COUNTRY and A NON SPECIFIC RACE COUNTRY. God bless our young people as they are less prejudice than the GOOD OLE WHITE BOYs of yesteryear.

This is what happens when White folks leave or in this case get chased out because of crime. . The left even admits it. They blame the destruction and crime over the last 50'years in the South Bronx on WHITE FLIGHT. No white folks here but there is surely a lot of crime and domestic abuse. Churches closed down. Try walking the streets, even in daytime. Dare you.

Bronx Precinct Sees City's Sharpest Crime Increase for Second Year in a Row - Mott Haven - New York - DNAinfo (https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170111/mott-haven/40th-precinct-2016-crime-statistics)

[CowBubba]

White people are now 49% of the population...minorities are 51%...within 30 years, whites will be around 20% and minorities will be 80%. America will no longer exist.

Your great granddaughters will curse you for what you allowed to happen. America will be "Mexico II"...not a pleasant place to live.

I will be happy with your assumption as minorities are more godly than whites.

[Don Baldwin]

Good post. The Left is out to destroy this Country, the Constitution and White People.

White men...women being a casualty too. What else do you do when you are so overwhelmingly "outsmarted"? White people are the "know-it-alls" of the world. We're smarter, we know more, we're more inventive, we do most everything better than the "brown people". They HATE us for it...just like you hate that smart guy who is correcting you all the time. You want HIM gone...thet want US gone. It's pretty simple. They want us gone so they can have a chance. It's why they need "safe spaces" away from whites...a place they can relax in their sub-human stupor.

This is what happens when White folks leave or in this case get chased out because of crime. . The left even admits it. They blame the destruction and crime over the last 50'years in the South Bronx on WHITE FLIGHT. No white folks here but there is surely a lot of crime and domestic abuse. Churches closed down. Try walking the streets, even in daytime. Dare you.

Bronx Precinct Sees City's Sharpest Crime Increase for Second Year in a Row - Mott Haven - New York - DNAinfo (https://www.dnainfo.com/new-york/20170111/mott-haven/40th-precinct-2016-crime-statistics)

WHITE people make a place great. There are thousands of small little gated white enclaves throughout America...wonderful places to live and raise a child. And there are "diverse" places...places that suck. Where would YOU rather live? Stupid question...you're already here...living in whiteville. You COULD practice what you preach and live on MLK Blvd...but no...you chose here. Please don't try to ruin what we have here...by diversifying it. EVERYWHERE that diversifies become WORSE than it was when it was all white...everyplace...every time.

"Diversified" places are always the WORST places...and these liberal idiots want to expand it to everywhere.

I will be happy with your assumption as minorities are more godly than whites.

Really? How about S or W Chicago? E St Louis? Memphis? Detroit? Are they more "Godly" than white people? How much "welfare" are they providing to others less fortunate? Nothing? None of them work, so why aren't they volunteering? Even among the inner city animals there is a social strata, why don't the strong take care of the weak? At least clean the place up.

Blacks would be extinct if it wasn't for white people's generosity. How long do you think blacks in the inner cities would last without white people's welfare every month? WE provide their home, their food, phones, cable TV, water, electricity...EVERYTHING...up to $60,000 a year in benefits...just for being black...and incapable of self determination.

[mellincf]

Good post. The Left is out to destroy this Country, the Constitution and White People.
This country was built on diversity. The Irish were spat upon when they immigrated. The Chinese saw signs in shop windows that said "No dogs or Chinese allowed". The German immigrants...how do you think they were treated in World War I? And we all know Japanese immigrants were rounded up in US concentration camps during World War II. Now all those things are looked upon as mistakes, at best, and disgust from many.
For too long, ignorant preachers have taught their uneducated flocks that this country was built on the Judeo-Christian model. It wasn't. The settlers who built this country were running away from Christian brutality and wars in Europe, where Christians were burning other Christians at the stake, and, yes, beheading them. The founders of this country wanted none of that, so they put a Wall of Separation between church and state into the Constitution. (If you don't believe me, look up the Supreme Court decision of Everson vs. Board.) Our Constitution does not contain the words "God" or "Christianity".
The older white conservatives who cling to the idea that life was just wonderful in the 1950s and want to return, ignore that in the lack of 24/7 media coverage, a lot of what is going on now was also going on then, you just didn't hear about it. Conservative media today wants their people to be afraid of everything-Mexicans, Muslims, liberals, Democrats, immigrants, and they will lie and exaggerate to keep that fear alive. Fox News blasts every black crime, but rarely do they grudgingly admit that a white might have committed an atrocity. Nevertheless if you really dig into facts, most crimes and most terrorist acts in this country have been committed by white males. We shoot 93 other Americans every single day.
The post which started this thread is full of such lies and propaganda, which no doubt was promoted by Limbaugh, Jones, Savage, Fox, or some other outlet which thanks to the freedom guaranteed by our Constitution, can spew nonsense. The pity is that so many willing listeners buy into that crap.

[CowBubba]

This country was built on diversity. The Irish were spat upon when they immigrated. The Chinese saw signs in shop windows that said "No dogs or Chinese allowed". The German immigrants...how do you think they were treated in World War I? And we all know Japanese immigrants were rounded up in US concentration camps during World War II. Now all those things are looked upon as mistakes, at best, and disgust from many.
For too long, ignorant preachers have taught their uneducated flocks that this country was built on the Judeo-Christian model. It wasn't. The settlers who built this country were running away from Christian brutality and wars in Europe, where Christians were burning other Christians at the stake, and, yes, beheading them. The founders of this country wanted none of that, so they put a Wall of Separation between church and state into the Constitution. (If you don't believe me, look up the Supreme Court decision of Everson vs. Board.) Our Constitution does not contain the words "God" or "Christianity".
The older white conservatives who cling to the idea that life was just wonderful in the 1950s and want to return, ignore that in the lack of 24/7 media coverage, a lot of what is going on now was also going on then, you just didn't hear about it. Conservative media today wants their people to be afraid of everything-Mexicans, Muslims, liberals, Democrats, immigrants, and they will lie and exaggerate to keep that fear alive. Fox News blasts every black crime, but rarely do they grudgingly admit that a white might have committed an atrocity. Nevertheless if you really dig into facts, most crimes and most terrorist acts in this country have been committed by white males. We shoot 93 other Americans every single day.
The post which started this thread is full of such lies and propaganda, which no doubt was promoted by Limbaugh, Jones, Savage, Fox, or some other outlet which thanks to the freedom guaranteed by our Constitution, can spew nonsense. The pity is that so many willing listeners buy into that crap.

Thank you for a great post.

[Don Baldwin]

This country was built on diversity. The Irish were spat upon when they immigrated. The Chinese saw signs in shop windows that said "No dogs or Chinese allowed". The German immigrants...how do you think they were treated in World War I? And we all know Japanese immigrants were rounded up in US concentration camps during World War II. Now all those things are looked upon as mistakes, at best, and disgust from many.
For too long, ignorant preachers have taught their uneducated flocks that this country was built on the Judeo-Christian model. It wasn't. The settlers who built this country were running away from Christian brutality and wars in Europe, where Christians were burning other Christians at the stake, and, yes, beheading them. The founders of this country wanted none of that, so they put a Wall of Separation between church and state into the Constitution. (If you don't believe me, look up the Supreme Court decision of Everson vs. Board.) Our Constitution does not contain the words "God" or "Christianity".
The older white conservatives who cling to the idea that life was just wonderful in the 1950s and want to return, ignore that in the lack of 24/7 media coverage, a lot of what is going on now was also going on then, you just didn't hear about it. Conservative media today wants their people to be afraid of everything-Mexicans, Muslims, liberals, Democrats, immigrants, and they will lie and exaggerate to keep that fear alive. Fox News blasts every black crime, but rarely do they grudgingly admit that a white might have committed an atrocity. Nevertheless if you really dig into facts, most crimes and most terrorist acts in this country have been committed by white males. We shoot 93 other Americans every single day.
The post which started this thread is full of such lies and propaganda, which no doubt was promoted by Limbaugh, Jones, Savage, Fox, or some other outlet which thanks to the freedom guaranteed by our Constitution, can spew nonsense. The pity is that so many willing listeners buy into that crap.

WHY do you lie cow?

America was built upon WHITE diversity. Blacks/browns didn't start immigrating to the US until the late 1960s. And they're overwhelming us now.

Yes, they were mistakes. But what about the blacks? What have they become? Everyone else "blended in"...but not them...they're STILL at the very bottom. Why are blacks at the bottom of EVERY society? In EVERY country...

They didn't want an OFFICIAL church that they'd ALL have to bow to like in other countries. They didn't want a mandatory tithe. They didn't want the Pope telling them how to run their country. THAT is what they were "fleeing".

We DO want to return...to the times when America WAS #1 and it WAS safe to walk the streets at night. Was there crime? Of course...but there WAS 10X less of it. Yes, the minorities ARE 10 more violent than whites. White crime is usually non-confrontational and "white collar".

Liberal media does the same to you...makes YOU afraid of white men. YOUR fear is misplaced...our fear of black violence is not. Look at S and W Chicago...the violence in the blacks sections...10X or MORE violent than the white sections. GO TO MLK Blvd...see for yourself just HOW violent they are. Go to a black high school...see how stupid and violent thay REALLY are.

You SHOW me the "facts" you have that proves that white men are responsible for MOST crimes. When you do...I'll show YOU that they counted Hispanics as white. They do that a LOT to HIDE the real numbers, the truth, that blacks are VERY violent. Go to MLK Blvd, I'll show you.

Yes it is...it's full of YOUR propaganda.

[wjboyer1]

WHY do you lie cow?

America was built upon WHITE diversity. Blacks/browns didn't start immigrating to the US until the late 1960s. And they're overwhelming us now.

Yes, they were mistakes. But what about the blacks? What have they become? Everyone else "blended in"...but not them...they're STILL at the very bottom. Why are blacks at the bottom of EVERY society? In EVERY country...

They didn't want an OFFICIAL church that they'd ALL have to bow to like in other countries. They didn't want a mandatory tithe. They didn't want the Pope telling them how to run their country. THAT is what they were "fleeing".

We DO want to return...to the times when America WAS #1 and it WAS safe to walk the streets at night. Was there crime? Of course...but there WAS 10X less of it. Yes, the minorities ARE 10 more violent than whites. White crime is usually non-confrontational and "white collar".

Liberal media does the same to you...makes YOU afraid of white men. YOUR fear is misplaced...our fear of black violence is not. Look at S and W Chicago...the violence in the blacks sections...10X or MORE violent than the white sections. GO TO MLK Blvd...see for yourself just HOW violent they are. Go to a black high school...see how stupid and violent thay REALLY are.

You SHOW me the "facts" you have that proves that white men are responsible for MOST crimes. When you do...I'll show YOU that they counted Hispanics as white. They do that a LOT to HIDE the real numbers, the truth, that blacks are VERY violent. Go to MLK Blvd, I'll show you.

Yes it is...it's full of YOUR propaganda.

From the anti-American poster child

[Don Baldwin]

From the anti-American poster child

From the "I want Mexico II" poster child.

The "I want blacks to infest everything" poster child.

Have you visited MLK Blvd yet? No? So you're STILL talking out of your ass and have no clue what the 99% are like...their character is like...you only know the propaganda you get on TV.

[CowBubba]

In respect for Martin Luther King I will submit a reqesut to change Morse blvd to Martin Luther King Blvd

[rubicon]

This country was built on diversity. The Irish were spat upon when they immigrated. The Chinese saw signs in shop windows that said "No dogs or Chinese allowed". The German immigrants...how do you think they were treated in World War I? And we all know Japanese immigrants were rounded up in US concentration camps during World War II. Now all those things are looked upon as mistakes, at best, and disgust from many.
For too long, ignorant preachers have taught their uneducated flocks that this country was built on the Judeo-Christian model. It wasn't. The settlers who built this country were running away from Christian brutality and wars in Europe, where Christians were burning other Christians at the stake, and, yes, beheading them. The founders of this country wanted none of that, so they put a Wall of Separation between church and state into the Constitution. (If you don't believe me, look up the Supreme Court decision of Everson vs. Board.) Our Constitution does not contain the words "God" or "Christianity".
The older white conservatives who cling to the idea that life was just wonderful in the 1950s and want to return, ignore that in the lack of 24/7 media coverage, a lot of what is going on now was also going on then, you just didn't hear about it. Conservative media today wants their people to be afraid of everything-Mexicans, Muslims, liberals, Democrats, immigrants, and they will lie and exaggerate to keep that fear alive. Fox News blasts every black crime, but rarely do they grudgingly admit that a white might have committed an atrocity. Nevertheless if you really dig into facts, most crimes and most terrorist acts in this country have been committed by white males. We shoot 93 other Americans every single day.
The post which started this thread is full of such lies and propaganda, which no doubt was promoted by Limbaugh, Jones, Savage, Fox, or some other outlet which thanks to the freedom guaranteed by our Constitution, can spew nonsense. The pity is that so many willing listeners buy into that crap.

When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

In respect for Martin Luther King I will submit a reqesut to change Morse blvd to Martin Luther King Blvd

The day that happens is the day the villages died.

There are thousands of 99% white communities that are little paradises.

There are NO 99% black places that you'd send your daughter alone.

Why? Because we're not the same species. Dogs compared to wolves. One is friendly and joyful...the other violent and unpredictable. Yet the ONLY visible difference is their "skin", their fur coat. Wolves ALL look the same...dogs are more like white people...VERY varied. We have blue eyes, green eyes, hazel and brown...we have blonde hair, red hair, and all shades of brown. Our skin goes from lily white to red to olive and many shades of brown...to almost black.

Blacks are...black. Black skin, curly black hair, brown eyes... Like the wolves...little variation...that's why they "all look alike" to us.

[Don Baldwin]

When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:

Because the sailors have a HISTORY of getting sh!tfaced drunk and willfully or not...wrecking places. They have a lot of pent up male energy that gets relieved. They'd have a sign "no sailors and no minorities" if they could get away with it. Blacks cause damage also.

They protest for special treatment. IF we were all treated by merit alone...black would be completely outcast. Because they're not us...they're not as smart as us.

Africans MADE slaves of others? You mean STILL enslave each other. Slavery still exists in Africa...yet no outcry. Genocide exists in Africa with no outcry. They even made movies about it...nobody cared.

Well duh...it's all part of divide and conquer...keep us against each other so we won't unite against them. They keep us a bunch of squabbling minorities each against the other.

[Byte1]

When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:



"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."

-Booker T. Washington

[Don Baldwin]

"There is a class of colored people who make a business of keeping the troubles, the wrongs, and the hardships of the Negro race before the public. Having learned that they are able to make a living out of their troubles, they have grown into the settled habit of advertising their wrongs-partly because they want sympathy and partly because it pays. Some of these people do not want the Negro to lose his grievances, because they do not want to lose their jobs."

-Booker T. Washington

These are part of the Negro 1%...and their jobs are guaranteed...blacks will never be our equal and I doubt they'll ever be willingly accepted. Nobody likes them...Whites, Hispanics, Asians...nobody. They all know they're...different.

[mellincf]

When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards: Funny how I, a liberal and avid consumer of liberal press, never heard that. It's not in the liberal press, it is in the right wing press. Let's see you post a comment that references your point ANYWHERE in the Google universe that is liberal, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Huffington Post? You won't find it. It is again, a canard pushed by the right wing and not supported by fact.

[Rockyrd]

When i joined the U s navy i was sent to Oceania, Virginia Beach Virginia. when I want off base some of the residents there had signs on their lawn that read "No Dogs and Sailors allowed"

the left wants to destroy the names of people like Washington, Jefferson, Lee Franklin because they were slave owners. Blacks still protest in the streets because of slavery.

However since the beginning of time slavery has been a fact. Even in Africa, Africans made slaves of other Africans.

methinks this claim of racism today is a great "gig" to use as leverage to make money, gain political advantage, etc.

Personal Best Regards:

Thinking of racism as a "gig" certainly saves you having to deal with it as a reality.

It IS a reality however, and you can pretend it does not exist, but the hate filled posts on this forum are evidence that, even in The Villages, we are surrounded with folks who feel superior simply because of their skin color..

In 1958, as part of my naval responsibilities I was in Norfolk. Saw the signs referenced, but remember mostly that my black service men could not go pretty much anywhere because of their skin color.

Today, you obviously feel both problems are resolved, but the "gig" as you call it is just more sophisticated.

Such ignorance and superior feelings now have the bully pulpit and you people can rally around your hate, refuse to listen, and dwell on dividing, rather than actually being patriotic and revoking this stuff, embracing the problems and finding solutions.

Nobody likes the NFL players doing what they are doing, but you stupid white folks refuse to understand what it means, how to even begin to understand that black skinned people died for that flag and have the same rights as you, as superior as you might feel.

The "gig" of those "nice folks" marching for and supporting Nazi ideals obviously has your attention.

[Rockyrd]

Funny how I, a liberal and avid consumer of liberal press, never heard that. It's not in the liberal press, it is in the right wing press. Let's see you post a comment that references your point ANYWHERE in the Google universe that is liberal, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Huffington Post? You won't find it. It is again, a canard pushed by the right wing and not supported by fact.

We now designate any uncomfortable news as fake. This era of our country is extremely sad.

Our President makes things up, and certain "superior" people then repeat it as fact.

Facts are called fake and simply ignored.

[Don Baldwin]

Funny how I, a liberal and avid consumer of liberal press, never heard that. It's not in the liberal press, it is in the right wing press. Let's see you post a comment that references your point ANYWHERE in the Google universe that is liberal, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Huffington Post? You won't find it. It is again, a canard pushed by the right wing and not supported by fact.

You don't hear that? That's exactly why they're tearing down the statues. Actually...anything that represents whiteness is being attacked. Slaveholders get a double whammy against them.

Here's another FACT that the liberal press doesn't share with you. Jefferson...supposedly fooled around with a BLACK slave? Well they imply she's black. Fully black. The reality was...she was 1/4 black and VERY white looking. She was probably a Halley Berry...very little black appearance in her.

Thinking of racism as a "gig" certainly saves you having to deal with it as a reality.

It IS a reality however, and you can pretend it does not exist, but the hate filled posts on this forum are evidence that, even in The Villages, we are surrounded with folks who feel superior simply because of their skin color..

In 1958, as part of my naval responsibilities I was in Norfolk. Saw the signs referenced, but remember mostly that my black service men could not go pretty much anywhere because of their skin color.

Today, you obviously feel both problems are resolved, but the "gig" as you call it is just more sophisticated.

Such ignorance and superior feelings now have the bully pulpit and you people can rally around your hate, refuse to listen, and dwell on dividing, rather than actually being patriotic and revoking this stuff, embracing the problems and finding solutions.

Nobody likes the NFL players doing what they are doing, but you stupid white folks refuse to understand what it means, how to even begin to understand that black skinned people died for that flag and have the same rights as you, as superior as you might feel.

The "gig" of those "nice folks" marching for and supporting Nazi ideals obviously has your attention.

Tell me Seaman Rocky...IF you could hand pick your crew from EVERYONE you've ever sailed with...would your "dream crew" be mostly white or mostly black? I'll know right away if you're lying.

[MDLNB]

Funny how I, a liberal and avid consumer of liberal press, never heard that. It's not in the liberal press, it is in the right wing press. Let's see you post a comment that references your point ANYWHERE in the Google universe that is liberal, New York Times, CNN, Washington Post, Newsweek, Time Magazine, Huffington Post? You won't find it. It is again, a canard pushed by the right wing and not supported by fact.

Just because you are in denial, does not make your statement reality. Get over it and get on with your life. Quit crying like a little girl.

[MDLNB]

We now designate any uncomfortable news as fake. This era of our country is extremely sad.

Our President makes things up, and certain "superior" people then repeat it as fact.

Facts are called fake and simply ignored.

Rocket, so far most of what the President has said has been vindicated as correct. Sure, the libtard media laughs and jeers at him and accuses him of being a liar, but eventually it all turns out that he is right. You just can't take it. You continue to cry like a scorned teenage girl.

[Rockyrd]

Rocket, so far most of what the President has said has been vindicated as correct. Sure, the libtard media laughs and jeers at him and accuses him of being a liar, but eventually it all turns out that he is right. You just can't take it. You continue to cry like a scorned teenage girl.

While I KNOW your statement to be untrue, it is worth noting that you ACCEPT A PRESIDENT WHO ONLY MOST OF WHAT HE SAYS IS TRUE.

Of course facts show otherwise, and ongoing and future investigations will show otherwise. Dismissing everything as fake news does not make it less true nor does it mitigate the results of doing that or lying.

[Don Baldwin]

Rocket, so far most of what the President has said has been vindicated as correct. Sure, the libtard media laughs and jeers at him and accuses him of being a liar, but eventually it all turns out that he is right. You just can't take it. You continue to cry like a scorned teenage girl.

2 year old child...

[mellincf]

Thinking of racism as a "gig" certainly saves you having to deal with it as a reality.

It IS a reality however, and you can pretend it does not exist, but the hate filled posts on this forum are evidence that, even in The Villages, we are surrounded with folks who feel superior simply because of their skin color..

In 1958, as part of my naval responsibilities I was in Norfolk. Saw the signs referenced, but remember mostly that my black service men could not go pretty much anywhere because of their skin color.

Today, you obviously feel both problems are resolved, but the "gig" as you call it is just more sophisticated.

Such ignorance and superior feelings now have the bully pulpit and you people can rally around your hate, refuse to listen, and dwell on dividing, rather than actually being patriotic and revoking this stuff, embracing the problems and finding solutions.

Nobody likes the NFL players doing what they are doing, but you stupid white folks refuse to understand what it means, how to even begin to understand that black skinned people died for that flag and have the same rights as you, as superior as you might feel.

The "gig" of those "nice folks" marching for and supporting Nazi ideals obviously has your attention. In fact, this is exactly why liberals are upset about Trump's election. It allows people like the ones we see in this thread to proudly display their racism and ignorance, which are really insecurity and fear. Their "leader" is one of them.

[mellincf]

Just because you are in denial, does not make your statement reality. Get over it and get on with your life. Quit crying like a little girl. And yet, you could not reply to my challenge to prove your point. So who is in denial?

[mellincf]

Rocket, so far most of what the President has said has been vindicated as correct. Sure, the libtard media laughs and jeers at him and accuses him of being a liar, but eventually it all turns out that he is right. You just can't take it. You continue to cry like a scorned teenage girl.
The proposed tax cuts for the affluent are so large — trillions of dollars over the coming decade, that they would cause the deficit to soar. Wealthy households would benefit from individual rate cuts, repeal of both the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax, as well as tax cuts for corporations and “pass-through” businesses (such as sole proprietorships and partnerships). This last provision would shower huge benefits on Trump’s family. “My plan is for the working people,” President Trump said yesterday. “I don’t benefit.” None of that is true. It’s the latest disturbing example of politicians telling falsehoods about a proposed policy. Trump has done so repeatedly, and now members of Congress are doing it more often, too. These aren’t mere exaggerations or truth shadings; they are often just lies.

[Rockyrd]

In fact, this is exactly why liberals are upset about Trump's election. It allows people like the ones we see in this thread to proudly display their racism and ignorance, which are really insecurity and fear. Their "leader" is one of them.

As a long time active participant in the Republican party, and who has since left that party, I can say.......

NOBODY is upset about an election, but are upset about what the results of such election have brought us.

If you think that only liberals are upset you are not paying attention to our health care crisis, our budget crisis, our foreign policy (not military) in shambles, and the creation (purposedly) of national divide on culture.

If mocking people within the halls of our White House, especially true war heros, is in any way acceptable, then we know a different America.

[Byte1]

The proposed tax cuts for the affluent are so large — trillions of dollars over the coming decade, that they would cause the deficit to soar. Wealthy households would benefit from individual rate cuts, repeal of both the alternative minimum tax and the estate tax, as well as tax cuts for corporations and “pass-through” businesses (such as sole proprietorships and partnerships). This last provision would shower huge benefits on Trump’s family. “My plan is for the working people,” President Trump said yesterday. “I don’t benefit.” None of that is true. It’s the latest disturbing example of politicians telling falsehoods about a proposed policy. Trump has done so repeatedly, and now members of Congress are doing it more often, too. These aren’t mere exaggerations or truth shadings; they are often just lies.

You have made a statement, but have not given any facts to support your claim. I am interested in this issue, so maybe you can expand on your statement?

[Bog99]

This country was built on diversity. The Irish were spat upon when they immigrated. The Chinese saw signs in shop windows that said "No dogs or Chinese allowed". The German immigrants...how do you think they were treated in World War I? And we all know Japanese immigrants were rounded up in US concentration camps during World War II. Now all those things are looked upon as mistakes, at best, and disgust from many.
For too long, ignorant preachers have taught their uneducated flocks that this country was built on the Judeo-Christian model. It wasn't. The settlers who built this country were running away from Christian brutality and wars in Europe, where Christians were burning other Christians at the stake, and, yes, beheading them. The founders of this country wanted none of that, so they put a Wall of Separation between church and state into the Constitution. (If you don't believe me, look up the Supreme Court decision of Everson vs. Board.) Our Constitution does not contain the words "God" or "Christianity".
The older white conservatives who cling to the idea that life was just wonderful in the 1950s and want to return, ignore that in the lack of 24/7 media coverage, a lot of what is going on now was also going on then, you just didn't hear about it. Conservative media today wants their people to be afraid of everything-Mexicans, Muslims, liberals, Democrats, immigrants, and they will lie and exaggerate to keep that fear alive. Fox News blasts every black crime, but rarely do they grudgingly admit that a white might have committed an atrocity. Nevertheless if you really dig into facts, most crimes and most terrorist acts in this country have been committed by white males. We shoot 93 other Americans every single day.
The post which started this thread is full of such lies and propaganda, which no doubt was promoted by Limbaugh, Jones, Savage, Fox, or some other outlet which thanks to the freedom guaranteed by our Constitution, can spew nonsense. The pity is that so many willing listeners buy into that crap.





What a load of manipulative c*nty crap.

Oh honey I'm so disappointed in you...



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[MDLNB]

If you go back and look at government stats and charts, you will see that when taxes were cut, tax revenues from a booming economy increased. You will see that when you raised taxes, revenues did increase but the economy stagnated and did not flourish. So many non-believers insist that tax breaks and the "trickle down" effect are myths, but do not even know what they are talking about. They insist that by cutting individual tax rates, that no one is going to make more money and pay more taxes. The point is that more jobs are created by cutting taxes because there is more money to invest. I keep hearing NON-business peons insist that rich people hoard their money and do not invest it That if they do not pay more taxes, they will lock their money away and not invest it. That is just plain stupid. Rich do not get rich by hoarding their money. Check out the difference in tax rates to GDP growth in the past century and you will discover that yes, increased tax rates increased tax revenues. But, the economy did not grow. Then look at the economy when tax rates were cut and you will also see a growth in the economy which lent also to tax revenue growth. You can sit back and deny it but facts are there for you.

If you allow idiots that crave power like Schumer and Pelosi to deceive you into thinking that cutting taxes only benefit the rich, then you deserve your socialist dependency on the government. But, before you accept socialism as your great benefactor, try living in a socialist system overseas and see how the so-called middle class lives. We live better right now than ALL of them. You want the gov to be your nanny, your financial handler? Fine, the cost is half your salary in payroll deductions. The rich does not suffer, you do. In socialist systems, the rich are still the elite but the middle class becomes an upper lower class lifestyle. Yep, the lower class survives. Just like rats and roaches in the inner cities. You will always have those that do not wish to be motivated to better themselves.

If you think that cutting taxes only benefits the wealthy, then you have been conned by those wishing power over you. Quit worrying about what someone else is getting when it does not effect you. Why should the wealthy be discriminated upon by penalizing them for being successful? Does the idea of "fair treatment" only pertain to lower and middle class? Or does it pertain to ALL Americans?

[larbud]

"If you allow idiots that crave power like Schumer and Pelosi to deceive you into thinking that cutting taxes only benefit the rich, then you deserve your socialist dependency on the government. But, before you accept socialism as your great benefactor, try living in a socialist system overseas and see how the so-called middle class lives. We live better right now than ALL of them. You want the gov to be your nanny, your financial handler? Fine, the cost is half your salary in payroll deductions. The rich does not suffer, you do. In socialist systems, the rich are still the elite but the middle class becomes an upper lower class lifestyle. Yep, the lower class survives. Just like rats and roaches in the inner cities. You will always have those that do not wish to be motivated to better themselves"


Puerto Rico anyone??