Are there any Christians in The Villages?

[Bog99]

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https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/have-government-do-unto-others-their-property-youd-have-government-246778/ DO UNTO YOU AND YOUR PROPERTY.

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[CowBubba]

I know a lady that is close, but don't look on the political forum for Christians.

[Bog99]

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/there-any-christians-villages-247308/

[billethkid]

bait!!!

[Bog99]

bait!!!


Is there something wrong with asking that question?

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[Bog99]

bait!!!


Is there something wrong with asking that question?

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[billethkid]

It sorta ranks with the question...if it is noon is is daytime or night time!!!

[mellincf]

Kind of depends on whom you consider a Christian. Do the women cover their hair with a hijab, as is commanded in 1 Corinthians 11:6? Do they know who King James I of England was, and why they read HIS "version" of the Bible, the KJV? Are they aware of what influence Constantine had on the Bible? Do you know that not one single Gospel was written until decades after the historical Jesus was dead, and so therefore no one actually heard what he had to say? If you're Protestant, do you know why? How much do you really know about the religion before you profess to call yourself "Christian".

[Cedwards38]

Lots more that claim it than actually live it.

[rubicon]

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/have-government-do-unto-others-their-property-youd-have-government-246778/

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You pose the wrong question. Worse yet you seem unable to answer your own question.

What I would say, is that it is God alone ,who can make that judgment without equivocation about each of us.

Personal Best Regards:

[Bog99]

You pose the wrong question. Worse yet you seem unable to answer your own question.

What I would say, is that it is God alone ,who can make that judgment without equivocation about each of us.

Personal Best Regards:

Oh no.... not YOU again.

[Bog99]

Kind of depends on whom you consider a Christian. Do the women cover their hair with a hijab, as is commanded in 1 Corinthians 11:6? Do they know who King James I of England was, and why they read HIS "version" of the Bible, the KJV? Are they aware of what influence Constantine had on the Bible? Do you know that not one single Gospel was written until decades after the historical Jesus was dead, and so therefore no one actually heard what he had to say? If you're Protestant, do you know why? How much do you really know about the religion before you profess to call yourself "Christian".

In other words, you know a lot about trees and nothing about forests.

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[Byte1]

In other words, you know a lot about trees and nothing about forests.

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That is a very good line, and pertinent too.

[Don Baldwin]

Kind of depends on whom you consider a Christian. Do the women cover their hair with a hijab, as is commanded in 1 Corinthians 11:6? Do they know who King James I of England was, and why they read HIS "version" of the Bible, the KJV? Are they aware of what influence Constantine had on the Bible? Do you know that not one single Gospel was written until decades after the historical Jesus was dead, and so therefore no one actually heard what he had to say? If you're Protestant, do you know why? How much do you really know about the religion before you profess to call yourself "Christian".

I learned a LOT about religion and deities, when I wondered "why don't I get what everyone else does"? I learned...they've been snookered...for 10%.

There are a LOT of "God's Laws" they don't follow. Their "Bible" has been picked over, rewritten, books deleted...until it became a shell of the "original". They believe that the books of Matthew and John are "original" written by the original apostles. The Protestants were protesting...

The trouble is...they get their information fro fellow believers and they never get to hear opposing views. Like here when I talk about minorities...they have their preconceived beliefs and they won't hear ANYTHING contradictory.

You pose the wrong question. Worse yet you seem unable to answer your own question.

What I would say, is that it is God alone ,who can make that judgment without equivocation about each of us.

Personal Best Regards:

If you know the answer...you don't have a question. And you THINK you have an answer with a "God"...you couldn't be more wrong.

In other words, you know a lot about trees and nothing about forests.

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You MUST know the trees to know the forest. For the forest is nothing if not a collection of individual trees.

[Bog99]

Kind of depends on whom you consider a Christian. Do the women cover their hair with a hijab, as is commanded in 1 Corinthians 11:6? Do they know who King James I of England was, and why they read HIS "version" of the Bible, the KJV? Are they aware of what influence Constantine had on the Bible? Do you know that not one single Gospel was written until decades after the historical Jesus was dead, and so therefore no one actually heard what he had to say? If you're Protestant, do you know why? How much do you really know about the religion before you profess to call yourself "Christian".

I learned a LOT about religion and deities, when I wondered "why don't I get what everyone else does"? I learned...they've been snookered...for 10%.

There are a LOT of "God's Laws" they don't follow. Their "Bible" has been picked over, rewritten, books deleted...until it became a shell of the "original". They believe that the books of Matthew and John are "original" written by the original apostles. The Protestants were protesting...

The trouble is...they get their information fro fellow believers and they never get to hear opposing views. Like here when I talk about minorities...they have their preconceived beliefs and they won't hear ANYTHING contradictory.



If you know the answer...you don't have a question. And you THINK you have an answer with a "God"...you couldn't be more wrong.



You MUST know the trees to know the forest. For the forest is nothing if not a collection of individual trees.



If you're not a Christian, why are you here yakking about it?

If it's not your bag, why don't you just shut up about it and go away?

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[Fraugoofy]

I learned a LOT about religion and deities, when I wondered "why don't I get what everyone else does"? I learned...they've been snookered...for 10%.

There are a LOT of "God's Laws" they don't follow. Their "Bible" has been picked over, rewritten, books deleted...until it became a shell of the "original". They believe that the books of Matthew and John are "original" written by the original apostles. The Protestants were protesting...

The trouble is...they get their information fro fellow believers and they never get to hear opposing views. Like here when I talk about minorities...they have their preconceived beliefs and they won't hear ANYTHING contradictory.



If you know the answer...you don't have a question. And you THINK you have an answer with a "God"...you couldn't be more wrong.



You MUST know the trees to know the forest. For the forest is nothing if not a collection of individual trees.So you are a racist AND an atheist? Great combo. I bet you make your mama proud..

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[Don Baldwin]

If you're not a Christian, why are you here yakking about it?

If it's not your bag, why don't you just shut up about it and go away?

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And I should shut up that America is being overrun by minorities too?

Something being fake...a lie...is the reason to talk about it.

Why do I bother...

[Don Baldwin]

So you are a racist AND an atheist? Great combo. I bet you make your mama proud..

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She is... And so is "your God". He gave us free thought for a reason...and IF he's really omnipotent...he's NOT concerned with what I'm thinking/doing. He SHOULD be proud of us for thinking outside the box. Aren't you proud when your kid does something novel that works? "We're all his children" so he should be proud too.

Or...are we dealing with the "mean" God? The first one...the OT God.

[Bog99]

And I should shut up that America is being overrun by minorities too?

Something being fake...a lie...is the reason to talk about it.

Why do I bother...


Religion is not politics.

What other people think about Christianity --- what is it to you?


If you don't like it, you can mind your own business.

[Fraugoofy]

Religion is not politics.

What other people think about Christianity --- what is it to you?


If you don't like it, you can mind your own business. Amen brother! I couldn't agree more!!

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[rubicon]

Oh no.... not YOU again.

You just hate it when I continually provide the right answers but not the answers you hoped.

There is a movement on in America where more and more people are returning to the word of God because they have seen what secularism offers and it is not enough.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

Our country was founded as “one nation under God,” and recognized worldwide as a Christian nation of high moral integrity and prosperity. But, following World War II, there ensued a strong movement especially noted in the sixties to disassociate all public and government-sponsored initiatives from God (hence, secularism). On a more material front, the trials of the Great Depression and the War resulted in a national trend toward utility over beauty. Industrialization fueled this further by promoting standardization and lower costs over uniqueness and beauty. The pursuit of quality was replaced by the pursuit of quantity. Consumerism displaced notions of restraint and replaced them with a lust to have more, and the “shop till you drop” mentality. Garages across America turned from places to preserve and maintain automobiles into storehouses for unneeded junk. Greater value was given to cheap disposable items than to that which was enduring and beautiful.

Essentially too many Americans kneel at the floor of consumerism their god. Its why Christmas has no special meaning any longer nor Easter.

It simply means too many Americans know the price of everything but the value of nothing. the intrinsic beauty of person places and things is lost on too many. Those that still adhere to it will understand this post.

Personal Best Regards:

[dirtbanker]

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/there-any-christians-villages-247308/Not many. Most move outside after they get brainwashed by a nearby church...too much sin in TV for them to stay right with god.



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[mellincf]

Religion is not politics.

What other people think about Christianity --- what is it to you?


If you don't like it, you can mind your own business. Religion is ALL politics. That's why I first posted you should know the history of your religion. Martin Luther was protesting against the politics of the Catholic church, and if you are currently a Protest - ant, that's why. Politics. The abortion debate is all politics. The gay debate is all politics. Separation of church and state is politics.

[mellincf]

Our country was founded as “one nation under God,” and recognized worldwide as a Christian nation of high moral integrity and prosperity. But, following World War II, there ensued a strong movement especially noted in the sixties to disassociate all public and government-sponsored initiatives from God (hence, secularism). On a more material front, the trials of the Great Depression and the War resulted in a national trend toward utility over beauty. Industrialization fueled this further by promoting standardization and lower costs over uniqueness and beauty. The pursuit of quality was replaced by the pursuit of quantity. Consumerism displaced notions of restraint and replaced them with a lust to have more, and the “shop till you drop” mentality. Garages across America turned from places to preserve and maintain automobiles into storehouses for unneeded junk. Greater value was given to cheap disposable items than to that which was enduring and beautiful.

Essentially too many Americans kneel at the floor of consumerism their god. Its why Christmas has no special meaning any longer nor Easter.

It simply means too many Americans know the price of everything but the value of nothing. the intrinsic beauty of person places and things is lost on too many. Those that still adhere to it will understand this post.

Personal Best Regards: "One Nation Under God" replaced our ORIGINAL MOTTO "E Pluribus Unum" in 1957 during the Cold War. This is the crux of the entire discussion, politics and religion. Did you get that "information" from your pastor?

Quit getting your history from your pastor and read a history book. This country was NOT founded as a Christian nation. The words "God" and "Christianity" appear NOWHERE in the Constitution. "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."--John Adams, 2nd President of the United States. Thomas Jefferson: “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law.” James Madison: “The civil government … functions with complete success … by the total separation of the Church from the State.” I could go on for pages of quotes. Your pastor has a POLITICAL agenda to promote the erroneous idea that this is a "Christian" nation. It most assuredly IS NOT.

[billethkid]

For those who offer the premise "...there aren't many left...":

Of all religious groups, Christian population size remains largest | Pew Research Center (http://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2017/04/05/christians-remain-worlds-largest-religious-group-but-they-are-declining-in-europe/)

It is fine to offer and have an opinion. It is not fine to present it as an official general statement.

Remember the case of looking at the world through a straw?
When looking at the side of an elephant the observer was quick to point out the world has turned gray!!

[CowBubba]

"One Nation Under God" replaced our ORIGINAL MOTTO "E Pluribus Unum" in 1957 during the Cold War. This is the crux of the entire discussion, politics and religion. Did you get that "information" from your pastor?

Quit getting your history from your pastor and read a history book. This country was NOT founded as a Christian nation. The words "God" and "Christianity" appear NOWHERE in the Constitution. "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."--John Adams, 2nd President of the United States. Thomas Jefferson: “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law.” James Madison: “The civil government … functions with complete success … by the total separation of the Church from the State.” I could go on for pages of quotes. Your pastor has a POLITICAL agenda to promote the erroneous idea that this is a "Christian" nation. It most assuredly IS NOT.

Thank you. It is amazing how many people believe it has been around for ever. It was invented by some religious nuts in the 1950,s.:boxing2:

[Byte1]

"One Nation Under God" replaced our ORIGINAL MOTTO "E Pluribus Unum" in 1957 during the Cold War. This is the crux of the entire discussion, politics and religion. Did you get that "information" from your pastor?

Quit getting your history from your pastor and read a history book. This country was NOT founded as a Christian nation. The words "God" and "Christianity" appear NOWHERE in the Constitution. "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."--John Adams, 2nd President of the United States. Thomas Jefferson: “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law.” James Madison: “The civil government … functions with complete success … by the total separation of the Church from the State.” I could go on for pages of quotes. Your pastor has a POLITICAL agenda to promote the erroneous idea that this is a "Christian" nation. It most assuredly IS NOT.

Whether you are a believer or not is up to you and GOD. But to tell others that they do NOT believe or that they are NOT Christians, is just a ridiculous statement to make, since you do not know. It is your opinion.
Yes, this country was founded by believers whether you wish to believe it or not. ALL 50 state constitutions mention GOD at least once with over 200 times total.

Please remember that GOD is also mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

There is 68 references to God in U.S. code.

"On the day that Congress finished its work on the First Amendment, it called on President George Washington to issue a Proclamation to the people of the United States to thank God for the freedoms we enjoy. A week and a day later the President's opening paragraph in his Proclamation said: "Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor . . ."

It is wrong to suggest that this country was not founded by Christian believers, giving all the glory to GOD.

[mellincf]

Whether you are a believer or not is up to you and GOD. But to tell others that they do NOT believe or that they are NOT Christians, is just a ridiculous statement to make, since you do not know. It is your opinion.
Yes, this country was founded by believers whether you wish to believe it or not. ALL 50 state constitutions mention GOD at least once with over 200 times total.

Please remember that GOD is also mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

There is 68 references to God in U.S. code.

"On the day that Congress finished its work on the First Amendment, it called on President George Washington to issue a Proclamation to the people of the United States to thank God for the freedoms we enjoy. A week and a day later the President's opening paragraph in his Proclamation said: "Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor . . ."

It is wrong to suggest that this country was not founded by Christian believers, giving all the glory to GOD. You seem to conflate "God" with "Christianity". So apparently you believe only Christians believe in God?

[wjboyer1]

You seem to conflate "God" with "Christianity". So apparently you believe only Christians believe in God?

The genius of the Declaration is the inclusive way the divine is given expression. The appellations of God are generic. All can regard their rights as unalienable, their liberty as inviolable.

[Don Baldwin]

The genius of the Declaration is the inclusive way the divine is given expression. The appellations of God are generic. All can regard their rights as unalienable, their liberty as inviolable.

But yet...we're slaves of God? We are guaranteed "by God" absolute freedom...liberty...except from him?

Anyone find that ironic?

How about now?

How about now?

[Fraugoofy]

She is... And so is "your God". He gave us free thought for a reason...and IF he's really omnipotent...he's NOT concerned with what I'm thinking/doing. He SHOULD be proud of us for thinking outside the box. Aren't you proud when your kid does something novel that works? "We're all his children" so he should be proud too.

Or...are we dealing with the "mean" God? The first one...the OT God.Happy you finally admitted you are a racist AND and athiest, all in one full swoop. Saves everyone a lot of time in reading through all of your rhetoric...we all know where you stand, and it ain't on the side of the righteous!

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[Bog99]

Whether you are a believer or not is up to you and GOD. But to tell others that they do NOT believe or that they are NOT Christians, is just a ridiculous statement to make, since you do not know. It is your opinion.
Yes, this country was founded by believers whether you wish to believe it or not. ALL 50 state constitutions mention GOD at least once with over 200 times total.

Please remember that GOD is also mentioned in the Declaration of Independence.

There is 68 references to God in U.S. code.

"On the day that Congress finished its work on the First Amendment, it called on President George Washington to issue a Proclamation to the people of the United States to thank God for the freedoms we enjoy. A week and a day later the President's opening paragraph in his Proclamation said: "Whereas it is the duty of all nations to acknowledge the providence of Almighty God, to obey His will, to be grateful for His benefits, and humbly to implore His protection and favor . . ."

It is wrong to suggest that this country was not founded by Christian believers, giving all the glory to GOD.


Absolutely!

"... endowed by their Creator...."


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[mellincf]

Why the United States is NOT a Christian nation.


When Thomas Jefferson wrote the Declaration of Independence, he spoke of "unalienable rights endowed by our Creator." He used generic religious language that all religious groups of the day would respond to, not narrowly Christian language traditionally employed by nations with state churches. Through ratification of the First Amendment, observed Jefferson, the American people built a "wall of separation between church and state." Early national leaders understood that separation of church and state would be good for all faiths including Christianity. Jefferson rejoiced that Virginia had passed his religious freedom law, noting that it would ensure religious freedom for "the Jew and the Gentile, the Christian and Mahometan, the Hindoo, the infidel of every denomination." President George Washington, in a famous 1790 letter to a Jewish congregation in Newport, R.I., celebrated the fact that Jews had full freedom of worship in America. Noted Washington, "All possess alike liberty of conscience and immunities of citizenship." Washington's administration even negotiated a treaty with the Muslim rulers of north Africa that stated explicitly that the United States was not founded on Christianity. The pact, known as the Treaty with Tripoli, was approved unanimously by the Senate in 1797, under the administration of John Adams. Article 11 of the treaty states, "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion…."
Americans should be proud that we live in a democracy that welcomes persons of many faiths and none. Around the globe, millions of people still dwell under oppressive regimes where religion and government are harshly commingled. (Iran and the former Taliban regime of Afghanistan are just two examples.) Many residents of those countries look to the United States as beacon of hope and a model for what their own nations might someday become.

[rubicon]

"One Nation Under God" replaced our ORIGINAL MOTTO "E Pluribus Unum" in 1957 during the Cold War. This is the crux of the entire discussion, politics and religion. Did you get that "information" from your pastor?

Quit getting your history from your pastor and read a history book. This country was NOT founded as a Christian nation. The words "God" and "Christianity" appear NOWHERE in the Constitution. "The government of the United States is not, in any sense, founded on the Christian religion."--John Adams, 2nd President of the United States. Thomas Jefferson: “Christianity neither is, nor ever was, a part of the common law.” James Madison: “The civil government … functions with complete success … by the total separation of the Church from the State.” I could go on for pages of quotes. Your pastor has a POLITICAL agenda to promote the erroneous idea that this is a "Christian" nation. It most assuredly IS NOT.

While the founders made clear the separation of God and state they did not believe or intend for them to be mutually exclusive. Better than half the men who signed the Declaration Of Independence were pastors.

God has always been a part of America.

Personal Best Regards:

[Bog99]

While the founders made clear the separation of God (maybe "church" as opposed to "God"?) and state they did not believe or intend for them to be mutually exclusive.

Better than half the men who signed the Declaration Of Independence were pastors.

God has always been a part of America.

Personal Best Regards:

Wow -- awesome.

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[ColdNoMore]

While the founders made clear the separation of God and state they did not believe or intend for them to be mutually exclusive. Better than half the men who signed the Declaration Of Independence were pastors.

God has always been a part of America.

Personal Best Regards:

Did you really think you were going to get away with...another one of your outright lies? :oops:

1 out of 56 equals 'most'? No, it doesn't | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/oct/23/mike-huckabee/1-out-of-56-equals-most-no-it-doesnt/)

During the Republican debate, Mike Huckabee said he believes one of the defining issues facing the country is the sanctity of human life. Arguing that the issue is of historical importance, he invoked the Declaration of Independence's rights of life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness and said that most of the signers of the declaration were clergymen.

Not even close.

Only one of the 56 was an active clergyman,

and that was John Witherspoon. Witherspoon was a Presbyterian minister and president of the College of New Jersey (now Princeton University).


You're welcome. ;)


With being a plagiarizer, liar, bigot/racist, pseudo-intellectual and fake Christian...you're quite the complete Chump Cultist. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[mellincf]

Did you really think you were going to get away with...another one of your outright lies? :oops:

1 out of 56 equals 'most'? No, it doesn't | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/oct/23/mike-huckabee/1-out-of-56-equals-most-no-it-doesnt/)




You're welcome. ;)


With being a plagiarizer, liar, bigot/racist, pseudo-intellectual and fake Christian...you're quite the complete Chump Cultist. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave: Thank you. Some "Christians" are apparently unable to fact check, and worse, trust Huckabee to know what he's talking about.

[Bog99]

Did you really think you were going to get away with...another one of your outright lies? :oops:

1 out of 56 equals 'most'? No, it doesn't | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/oct/23/mike-huckabee/1-out-of-56-equals-most-no-it-doesnt/)




You're welcome. ;)


With being a plagiarizer, liar, bigot/racist, pseudo-intellectual and fake Christian...you're quite the complete Chump Cultist. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave: <--- read: Go eff yourself.

How many of the signers of the declaration of independence were clergymen?

how many of the signers of the declaration of independence were clergymen? - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAACAR_enUS705US705&q=how+many+of+the+signers+of+the+declaration+of+in dependence+were+clergymen%3F&oq=how+many+of+the+signers+of+the+declaration+of+i ndependence+were+clergymen%3F&gs_l=psy-ab.3...105392.113250.0.115662.11.10.1.0.0.0.168.10 13.0j8.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..2.7.751...35i39k1.0.Vu617PFTstk)





Meanwhile look at the mean-spiritedness of this post. The viciousness of Liberalism/Femo-Fascism is on full display.

What are they defending? Answer: their own conceit and sense of superiority. ... no wonder they're so hostile.

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[rubicon]

Did you really think you were going to get away with...another one of your outright lies? :oops:

1 out of 56 equals 'most'? No, it doesn't | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/oct/23/mike-huckabee/1-out-of-56-equals-most-no-it-doesnt/)




You're welcome. ;)


With being a plagiarizer, liar, bigot/racist, pseudo-intellectual and fake Christian...you're quite the complete Chump Cultist. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

That information was taken from the Worship column in the WSJ wherein a pastor made claim that 33 of the 56 signers were ordained pastors. I often keep copies of such facts.

Perhaps I misread the article but I am not a liar. a lair intends to deceive.

WHAT IS MORE ALARMING is your reaction not with one but three consecutive threads with insanity spread over the entire posts. Pal you need to get a grip because your response was way over the top and you apparently have unresolved issues . No reasonable person would respond in the manner as did you. I will keep you in my prayers.

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

That information was taken from the Worship column in the WSJ wherein a pastor made claim that 33 of the 56 signers were ordained pastors. I often keep copies of such facts.

Perhaps I misread the article but I am not a liar. a lair intends to deceive.

WHAT IS MORE ALARMING is your reaction not with one but three consecutive threads with insanity spread over the entire posts. Pal you need to get a grip because your response was way over the top and you apparently have unresolved issues . No reasonable person would respond in the manner as did you. I will keep you in my prayers.

Personal Best Regards:

Every adjective used by Coldnomore to describe you is 100% accurate.

You certainly are not someone who should be speaking of Christian values. Your judgement of people, your hateful unfounded debasement of other people is truely stunning.

And you DO lie...you DO plagerize. You ignore when it is pointed out to you, but you do lie and you do deceive.

Your hypocrisy is difficult to even describe. You seem to be lacking any conscience at all.

[Byte1]

The point being discussed is that the Founders were indeed believers, whether claiming to be Christian or not. I fail to see why it is so abhorrent for the folks on the left to recognize the many good points related to those that believe in a higher form of divinity. The idea of persons caring for one another is reinforced by the instructions dictated by the Bible. Or, do liberals believe they are superior to any divinity? In my opinion, those that seem to get an allergic reaction to the mention of the Bible, seem to have something in their background that they are ashamed of and do not wish to face that sin. Believers are convinced that there is a higher form of forgiveness.

Sorry, did not mean to bring religion into politics. Someone, as always will inevitably mix the two. Maybe because there is so much corruption in politics? I generally stay away from discussing religious beliefs. That is taboo in today's PC world. I guess the next step will be for someone to bring up the ever present issue of abortion and it's religious ramifications.

[Byte1]

Every adjective used by Coldnomore to describe you is 100% accurate.

You certainly are not someone who should be speaking of Christian values. Your judgement of people, your hateful unfounded debasement of other people is truely stunning.

And you DO lie...you DO plagerize. You ignore when it is pointed out to you, but you do lie and you do deceive.

Your hypocrisy is difficult to even describe. You seem to be lacking any conscience at all.

That seems rather harsh. From what I have seen in the short time I have been visiting this forum, is that he/she seems to be very civil. Some of you seem to attack anyone that does not agree with you, even when they are able to articulate their view. In my opinion, it is OK to refute someone's statement with factual evidence, but to make personal attacks is against most forum rules. You and a couple others seem to have personal grievances against that poster. This is just my observation, and I may be wrong.

[Don Baldwin]

How many of the signers of the declaration of independence were clergymen?

how many of the signers of the declaration of independence were clergymen? - Google Search (https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1CAACAR_enUS705US705&q=how+many+of+the+signers+of+the+declaration+of+in dependence+were+clergymen%3F&oq=how+many+of+the+signers+of+the+declaration+of+i ndependence+were+clergymen%3F&gs_l=psy-ab.3...105392.113250.0.115662.11.10.1.0.0.0.168.10 13.0j8.8.0....0...1.1.64.psy-ab..2.7.751...35i39k1.0.Vu617PFTstk)





Meanwhile look at the mean-spiritedness of this post. The viciousness of Liberalism/Femo-Fascism is on full display.

What are they defending? Answer: their own conceit and sense of superiority. ... no wonder they're so hostile.

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The point being discussed is that the Founders were indeed believers, whether claiming to be Christian or not. I fail to see why it is so abhorrent for the folks on the left to recognize the many good points related to those that believe in a higher form of divinity. The idea of persons caring for one another is reinforced by the instructions dictated by the Bible. Or, do liberals believe they are superior to any divinity? In my opinion, those that seem to get an allergic reaction to the mention of the Bible, seem to have something in their background that they are ashamed of and do not wish to face that sin. Believers are convinced that there is a higher form of forgiveness.

Sorry, did not mean to bring religion into politics. Someone, as always will inevitably mix the two. Maybe because there is so much corruption in politics? I generally stay away from discussing religious beliefs. That is taboo in today's PC world. I guess the next step will be for someone to bring up the ever present issue of abortion and it's religious ramifications.

Back then...ALL learning was done at religious schools.

"Religious denominations established most early colleges in order to train ministers. They were modeled after Oxford and Cambridge universities in England, as well as Scottish universities. Harvard College was founded by the Massachusetts Bay colonial legislature in 1636, and named after an early benefactor. Most of the funding came from the colony, but the colleges began to collect endowments early on. Harvard first focused on training young men for the ministry, and won general support from the Puritan government, some of whose leaders had attended either Oxford or Cambridge.[1] The College of William & Mary was founded by the Virginia government in 1693, with 20,000 acres (81 km2) of land for an endowment, and a penny tax on every pound of tobacco, together with an annual appropriation. James Blair, the leading Church of England minister in the colony, was president for 50 years, and the college won the broad support of the Virginia gentry. It trained many of the lawyers, politicians, and leading planters at the time.[2] Yale College was founded in 1701, and in 1716 was relocated to New Haven, Connecticut. The conservative Puritan ministers of Connecticut had grown dissatisfied with the more liberal theology of Harvard, and wanted their own school to train orthodox ministers.[3]"

[mellincf]

The point being discussed is that the Founders were indeed believers, whether claiming to be Christian or not. I fail to see why it is so abhorrent for the folks on the left to recognize the many good points related to those that believe in a higher form of divinity. The idea of persons caring for one another is reinforced by the instructions dictated by the Bible. Or, do liberals believe they are superior to any divinity? In my opinion, those that seem to get an allergic reaction to the mention of the Bible, seem to have something in their background that they are ashamed of and do not wish to face that sin. Believers are convinced that there is a higher form of forgiveness.

Sorry, did not mean to bring religion into politics. Someone, as always will inevitably mix the two. Maybe because there is so much corruption in politics? I generally stay away from discussing religious beliefs. That is taboo in today's PC world. I guess the next step will be for someone to bring up the ever present issue of abortion and it's religious ramifications. It is not that liberals "believe they are superior to any divinity", it is that they object to exactly the sentiment expressed above. If you cannot see the smug, "holier than thou" implication of your post, it is infuriating. No, we don't have "some sin in our background" we have EDUCATION in our background. The Bible repeats a collection of myths from Egyptian, Greek, and older civilizations. If people would pay as much attention to the origins of the Bible as to what it says, you would be able to speak with more authority and less conceit. '''Noah''': Flood Myths Are Far Older Than Bible | Time.com (http://time.com/44631/noah-christians-flood-aronofsky/)
10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse (https://listverse.com/2013/06/30/ten-influences-on-the-bible/)

[mellincf]

The point being discussed is that the Founders were indeed believers, whether claiming to be Christian or not. I fail to see why it is so abhorrent for the folks on the left to recognize the many good points related to those that believe in a higher form of divinity. The idea of persons caring for one another is reinforced by the instructions dictated by the Bible. Or, do liberals believe they are superior to any divinity? In my opinion, those that seem to get an allergic reaction to the mention of the Bible, seem to have something in their background that they are ashamed of and do not wish to face that sin. Believers are convinced that there is a higher form of forgiveness.

Sorry, did not mean to bring religion into politics. Someone, as always will inevitably mix the two. Maybe because there is so much corruption in politics? I generally stay away from discussing religious beliefs. That is taboo in today's PC world. I guess the next step will be for someone to bring up the ever present issue of abortion and it's religious ramifications. Preachers are always mixing religion with politics. Who objects to abortion? The religious. That crazy preacher Pat Robertson is always ranting about divine retribution for something political, the latest is the Vegas massacre was caused by disrespect for Trump. How can any thinking individual have anything but contempt for such ravings? Pat Robertson blamed the Vegas shooting on ‘disrespect’ for Trump and the national anthem - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/10/03/yes-pat-robertson-blamed-the-vegas-shooting-on-disrespect-for-trump-and-the-national-anthem/?utm_term=.9bcb3abbf91a)

[Rockyrd]

That seems rather harsh. From what I have seen in the short time I have been visiting this forum, is that he/she seems to be very civil. Some of you seem to attack anyone that does not agree with you, even when they are able to articulate their view. In my opinion, it is OK to refute someone's statement with factual evidence, but to make personal attacks is against most forum rules. You and a couple others seem to have personal grievances against that poster. This is just my observation, and I may be wrong.

Not harsh at all or even close.

I do not attack him Rubicon because he disagrees with me....not at all.....fact is would welcome some substantive discussion from him but it never happens.

I have allowed him much supporting evidence.

I have allowed and showed him to plagerize TWICE that I can recall.

I have allowed and showed him linking to a Russian fake news site.

I have read and as can you, is almost daily attacks on whatever has made him angry that day.

I oppose Donald Trump, and have supplied volumes of evidence of his upbringing and hate before he was nominated or elected. I attach links showing how mean spirited this person is since he was elected.

BUT....I never criticize people in groups...although I will admit that I have begun to lump "Trump Supporters" because of the total complete echoing of non supportive positions because he tweeted about some issue.

Rubicon lumps people into groups....blacks, "progressives" (put in quotes because he has never defined that. He simply makes a general condemnation of millions of fellow americans, not on policy, not on issue, but PERSONALLY. He characterizes fellow americans a number of ways.......fellow americans, and he does this because they are whatever label he is working with on that day.

I, Coldnomore and others have criticized this President, shared links to make our point...shared his quotes to show he said what we heard him say, and we are then told we have "Trump derangement Syndrome, as if his hate for other Americans no brainwashed was not a serious syndrome in itself.

I get criticized much for supplying too much
information......RUBICON just says things about other people he does not know and makes such terrible and untrue accusations, it is scary.

Not harsh at all. If he believes that plagarism, and we are speaking word for word and passing it off as his own, is not stealing, then yes, I question his christian values. If condemning others on a public forum because they do not agree with your idol is not being judgemental and cruel then he better check his good book that he likes to share with all of us, to make himself look like a good man.

No, not too harsh...he has been challenged and re challenged on ISSUES AND SUBSTANCE, and ignores that and attacks. Yes, it has become personal, because when he speaks of facts and supplies fiction and never is able to document anything he says, and while he will preach to other posters about substance and never speak to substance, that makes him a deceiver.

[Don Baldwin]

It is not that liberals "believe they are superior to any divinity", it is that they object to exactly the sentiment expressed right here. If you cannot see the smug, "holier than thou" implication of your post, it is infuriating. No, we don't have "some sin in our background" we have EDUCATION in our background. The Old Testament contains a collection of myths from Egyptian, Greek, and older civilizations. If people would pay as much attention to the origins of the Bible as to what it says, you would be able to speak with more authority and less conceit. '''Noah''': Flood Myths Are Far Older Than Bible | Time.com (http://time.com/44631/noah-christians-flood-aronofsky/)
10 Ways The Bible Was Influenced By Other Religions - Listverse (https://listverse.com/2013/06/30/ten-influences-on-the-bible/)

Infuriating? It makes me laugh...the crap they believe...I mean BELIEVE with "all their being". Why? It was pounded into them as children...YOUNG children who don't know better.

They won't look because they're SO brainwashed they can't. They can't imagine anything else...because it's ALL they've known since they can remember. God God God.

Most know nothing of the religion they supposedly believe. All they get is...believe and love in Jesus...and you're golden. They ignore all the rest. They don't concern themselves with the OT at all. The difference between the OT God and Jesus...is night and day...it's schizophrenic.

Of course the flood myth is older than the Bible...it's the oral story of the end of the last ise age when the glaciers began melting and the oceans rose 300-400Ft. It flooded EVERYTHING. Everywhere men lived...flooded...EVERYTHING men had built...flooded and was destroyed. It WAS a "great cleansing"...but NOT for the reasons YOU think. The world IS "6,000 years old"...since the FLOOD...since mankind had to "start over".

The part about the 40 days and 40 nights...closer to 40 or 400 years... The Mediterranean flooded when the gap a Gibraltar was breached. The Black Sea flooded when Bosphorus was breached.

If people knew...if they were educated...they wouldn't believe. WHY do you think mans GREATEST sin is "knowledge"? Eating from the tree of knowledge.

Religions, governments...they LOVE helpless and ignorant people.

Preachers are always mixing religion with politics. Who objects to abortion? The religious. That crazy preacher Pat Robertson is always ranting about divine retribution for something political, the latest is the Vegas massacre was caused by disrespect for Trump. How can any thinking individual have nothing but contempt for such ravings? Pat Robertson blamed the Vegas shooting on ‘disrespect’ for Trump and the national anthem - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/acts-of-faith/wp/2017/10/03/yes-pat-robertson-blamed-the-vegas-shooting-on-disrespect-for-trump-and-the-national-anthem/?utm_term=.9bcb3abbf91a)

Abortion and birth control destroyed America!

That'll be the headline in 30 years when white people are 20% of the population. White people practice birth control and white people have the most abortions. Minorities welcome a new cash register.

[rubicon]

Did you really think you were going to get away with...another one of your outright lies? :oops:

1 out of 56 equals 'most'? No, it doesn't | PolitiFact (http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2007/oct/23/mike-huckabee/1-out-of-56-equals-most-no-it-doesnt/)




You're welcome. ;)


With being a plagiarizer, liar, bigot/racist, pseudo-intellectual and fake Christian...you're quite the complete Chump Cultist. :thumbup:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

my friend I hadn't time this morning to analyze what you alleged that I wrote because I was too intrigued and in deep analysis about how you were responding, not once but three times. your choice of words and emoji are quite telling.

In any event Ï said better than half of the signers to the Declaration of Indepenence were pastors
This information was a recollection I had from an article written sometime ago in th WSJ, in the House of Worship column. the author said 33 of 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were pastors

The definition of pastor :a spiritual overseer; especially a clergyman serving a local church or parish.

You use the word clergy in your search and you came back with one active clergyman signed.

As you can see pastor has a broader definition/connotation and it may explain the different interpretations.

Pastor used in colonial times is somewhat different than today.

It doesn't matter if one or 33 signers were pastors there is ample evidence that the founders understood that god needed to be included they just did not want a "state religion". I don't need to be right but I do want the record to be right for everyone's sake

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

Every adjective used by Coldnomore to describe you is 100% accurate.

You certainly are not someone who should be speaking of Christian values. Your judgement of people, your hateful unfounded debasement of other people is truely stunning.

And you DO lie...you DO plagerize. You ignore when it is pointed out to you, but you do lie and you do deceive.

Your hypocrisy is difficult to even describe. You seem to be lacking any conscience at all.

spoken like a true Christian.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

Not harsh at all or even close.

I do not attack him Rubicon because he disagrees with me....not at all.....fact is would welcome some substantive discussion from him but it never happens.

I have allowed him much supporting evidence.

I have allowed and showed him to plagerize TWICE that I can recall.

I have allowed and showed him linking to a Russian fake news site.

I have read and as can you, is almost daily attacks on whatever has made him angry that day.

I oppose Donald Trump, and have supplied volumes of evidence of his upbringing and hate before he was nominated or elected. I attach links showing how mean spirited this person is since he was elected.

BUT....I never criticize people in groups...although I will admit that I have begun to lump "Trump Supporters" because of the total complete echoing of non supportive positions because he tweeted about some issue.

Rubicon lumps people into groups....blacks, "progressives" (put in quotes because he has never defined that. He simply makes a general condemnation of millions of fellow americans, not on policy, not on issue, but PERSONALLY. He characterizes fellow americans a number of ways.......fellow americans, and he does this because they are whatever label he is working with on that day.

I, Coldnomore and others have criticized this President, shared links to make our point...shared his quotes to show he said what we heard him say, and we are then told we have "Trump derangement Syndrome, as if his hate for other Americans no brainwashed was not a serious syndrome in itself.

I get criticized much for supplying too much
information......RUBICON just says things about other people he does not know and makes such terrible and untrue accusations, it is scary.

Not harsh at all. If he believes that plagarism, and we are speaking word for word and passing it off as his own, is not stealing, then yes, I question his christian values. If condemning others on a public forum because they do not agree with your idol is not being judgemental and cruel then he better check his good book that he likes to share with all of us, to make himself look like a good man.

No, not too harsh...he has been challenged and re challenged on ISSUES AND SUBSTANCE, and ignores that and attacks. Yes, it has become personal, because when he speaks of facts and supplies fiction and never is able to document anything he says, and while he will preach to other posters about substance and never speak to substance, that makes him a deceiver.

My friend you need to go back and read what you just wrote . Then you need to ponder that you and the other poster you reference, whose comments were not too harsh, have repeatedly shown yourselves to be postmoderist contrarians with circular thinking and to try to engage in civil discourse with either of you is a waste of time, keyboarding and electricity.

I do not have to prove any of what i just said because post after post by both of you supports my argument

Personal Best Regards:

[Rockyrd]

spoken like a true Christian.

Personal Best Regards:

My Christian faith frowns on stealing other people's words.

My Christian faith frowns on condemning with words harshly, and cruelly millions of people.

My Christian faith teaches me to listen to others and have compassion.

My Christian faith frowns on identifying people by their skin color.

My Christian faith teaches me not to follow and adore false, lying prophets.

You are a false Christian. Whatever religion you say you follow, it MUST conform to your political view.

My Christian faith does not allow me to be quiet and to defend the sins of others.

[billethkid]

In the old day of the CB radio some would have asked to take the discussion to a different channel.

[Rockyrd]

My friend you need to go back and read what you just wrote . Then you need to ponder that you and the other poster you reference, whose comments were not too harsh, have repeatedly shown yourselves to be postmoderist contrarians with circular thinking and to try to engage in civil discourse with either of you is a waste of time, keyboarding and electricity.

I do not have to prove any of what i just said because post after post by both of you supports my argument

Personal Best Regards:

I speak for myself.

I have attempted on multiple occasions to engage you in substantive conversation based on the meaning of the forum, which is political discussion..

100% of the time, you simply avoid the questions of substance, and instead will post your long harangues accusing groups of people of things you know nothing about.

You act as judge daily on so many others you don't even know.

I need not to reexamine anything. I speak how I feel, but always attempt to validate my thoughts with links or copying.

You never do.

I never condemn people as a group, and if I even hinted at that, I supply back up.

You never do

I have never even come close to stealing other people's words without crediting properly.

You do so routinely.

I will never support anyone who has no character, not just Trump.

You will anytime.

[Rockyrd]

In the old day of the CB radio some would have asked to take the discussion to a different channel.

I am open to any idea on how to engage on substance, budget, gun laws, lack of legislation success or even activity

Over the last year or so, I personally have begun threads on Syria, foreign relations, health care, one President accusing another of a felony, the investigation of a foreign government into our election and others.

You join others in simply ignoring any substance and choose only to speak of Clinton and/or OBama. Or, of course, just speak of your hatred for certain political leanings

[ColdNoMore]

my friend I hadn't time this morning to analyze what you alleged that I wrote because I was too intrigued and in deep analysis about how you were responding, not once but three times. your choice of words and emoji are quite telling.

In any event Ï said better than half of the signers to the Declaration of Indepenence were pastors
This information was a recollection I had from an article written sometime ago in th WSJ, in the House of Worship column. the author said 33 of 56 signers of the Declaration of Independence were pastors

The definition of pastor :a spiritual overseer; especially a clergyman serving a local church or parish.

You use the word clergy in your search and you came back with one active clergyman signed.

As you can see pastor has a broader definition/connotation and it may explain the different interpretations.

Pastor used in colonial times is somewhat different than today.

It doesn't matter if one or 33 signers were pastors there is ample evidence that the founders understood that god needed to be included they just did not want a "state religion". I don't need to be right but I do want the record to be right for everyone's sake

Personal Best Regards:

Dude, you really, really, don't get it...do you? :oops:

You are simply a fake at almost everything...who has earned nothing but contempt.

You try to weasel out of your lying (yes, lying...NOT by having an incorrect "recollection") by NEVER supplying ANY proof of ANYTHING you say.

That you actually believe your discourse exhibits some type of civility, all the while proving the inverse...is simply amazing.

It's OK though, because both of us know what a fake you are and I take great satisfaction in knowing how insecure and how hard you try to matter...to those of us who actually can prove what we say. :thumbup:

And yes, my use of emoticons is purposeful, in trying to fully express my disgust...of fakes and passive-aggressive lowlifes like yourself.

Make no mistake, I have more integrity, ethics and morality in my little finger...than you will ever have in your entire hypocritical body.

Life is good and gets even better, when I realize how many people like you are around here and that although I don't consider myself superior to everyone else...I KNOW I am superior to you and your ilk. :ho:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[billethkid]

I am open to any idea on how to engage on substance, budget, gun laws, lack of legislation success or even activity

Over the last year or so, I personally have begun threads on Syria, foreign relations, health care, one President accusing another of a felony, the investigation of a foreign government into our election and others.

You join others in simply ignoring any substance and choose only to speak of Clinton and/or OBama. Or, of course, just speak of your hatred for certain political leanings

Oh so very untrue.
The point of my post totally missed or ignored(?).

[Rockyrd]

Oh so very untrue.
The point of my post totally missed or ignored(?).

I promise to pay closer attention.

Since in this political forum, we cannot search, it just is my memory that almost all comments on the autrocites this President has reigned upon our Whit Hiuse your retort is to bring up something (in very general terms of course, never specific) that you feel Obama or Clinton did.

But will reall pay attention, and promise if an apology is due, you will get one.

I did not miss your point at all....if you can help to have conversations on anything of substance, you will be a hero. Any substance posted is met with nothing but calling me having a syndrome, or a reference to OBama, or Clinton. Maybe a blanket condemnation of anything less than far right extreme position simply blaming the ills of the world, mostly on progressives, or the NFL, or movie stars, etc.

[MDLNB]

My Christian faith frowns on stealing other people's words.

My Christian faith frowns on condemning with words harshly, and cruelly millions of people.

My Christian faith teaches me to listen to others and have compassion.

My Christian faith frowns on identifying people by their skin color.

My Christian faith teaches me not to follow and adore false, lying prophets.

You are a false Christian. Whatever religion you say you follow, it MUST conform to your political view.

My Christian faith does not allow me to be quiet and to defend the sins of others.

I will not accuse anyone of not being a Christian, if they wish to make such a claim. That is between them and their GOD.

However, I can dispute you based on your hypocrisy. You do not criticize the President, you disparage and demean him. You make ludicrous statements like "sins" which has NOTHING to do with his job. You defend Hillary and her sins, but to question you on that is not allowed because someone brought another example of your questionable character to light. Get over yourself, because the only one you are convincing is yourself.

And yes, I can admit to being a "sometime" hypocrite. All of you are, whether you admit it or not. And that is one of the great things about Christianity, you can be forgiven.

[Rockyrd]

I will not accuse anyone of not being a Christian, if they wish to make such a claim. That is between them and their GOD.

However, I can dispute you based on your hypocrisy. You do not criticize the President, you disparage and demean him. You make ludicrous statements like "sins" which has NOTHING to do with his job. You defend Hillary and her sins, but to question you on that is not allowed because someone brought another example of your questionable character to light. Get over yourself, because the only one you are convincing is yourself.

And yes, I can admit to being a "sometime" hypocrite. All of you are, whether you admit it or not. And that is one of the great things about Christianity, you can be forgiven.

I plead guilty as charged.

This President is one of the single most dispicable human beings on earth. He is destroying not only ourvWhite House but is dividing this country as never before. The Bob Corker statement today was such an eye opener.

And when he lies, that's a sin. When he deceives an entire country that is a sin. I think, but not a theologan, but think when you mock McCain to amuse others because if an injury received as a POW is a sin. I think all his deceptions are sins. I thinking making false public worldwide accusations with no merit is a sin. I could continue.

I have NEVER in my life defended Hillary Clinton. I have criticized you for your constant, almost daily harangue about her. The election was over almost a year ago....let it go.

You idol, Tump could use your defense instead of constantly speaking of an election a year ago.

And it is unbearable to have you, whomis obviously uneducated, a slave to the words of an evil man even attempt to tell me anything about being a Christian.

I read your terrible and mean posts. You are not even close to being a christian

And my post was directed at one poster, AND IT WAS NOT YOU, so stick to your uninformed rants

[MDLNB]

I plead guilty as charged.

This President is one of the single most dispicable human beings on earth. He is destroying not only ourvWhite House but is dividing this country as never before. The Bob Corker statement today was such an eye opener.

And when he lies, that's a sin. When he deceives an entire country that is a sin. I think, but not a theologan, but think when you mock McCain to amuse others because if an injury received as a POW is a sin. I think all his deceptions are sins. I thinking making false public worldwide accusations with no merit is a sin. I could continue.

I have NEVER in my life defended Hillary Clinton. I have criticized you for your constant, almost daily harangue about her. The election was over almost a year ago....let it go.

You idol, Tump could use your defense instead of constantly speaking of an election a year ago.

And it is unbearable to have you, whomis obviously uneducated, a slave to the words of an evil man even attempt to tell me anything about being a Christian.

I read your terrible and mean posts. You are not even close to being a christian

And my post was directed at one poster, AND IT WAS NOT YOU, so stick to your uninformed rants

Sorry for you, but this is an open forum.

Your accusation of Trump being a liar has never been substantiated by you. So, you are wrong on that. Do I really need to embarrass you on all of your inaccurate accusations? After all, it is you that attacks everyone that does not agree with your statements.

Most Americans DO support their president. It is those that do not support their country via their president that are of questionable character. Calling the president vulgar names and disparaging him based on ONLY his character is the sign of an adolescent or just a loser. Your choice, or both.

You don't even know me, yet you accuse me of being "uneducated" and "evil." Thus the comment substantiated by your own actions, "spoken like a true Christian." Don't worry, it was not a correct assessment of you. It was likely meant to be sardonic.

Just a note: Accusing someone of not being "educated" after admitting that you did not vote for a valid candidate during the election, and then attempting to convince anyone of your political superiority is really interesting. I'm sure that the humor in it is not lost on the others either.

[dirtbanker]

Nope, I laugh all the time about Rockface (the drama queen) voted dopey Smurf for president...LOL

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[Bog99]

Doesn't anyone see the Christian connection with this?:



https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/magic-sentences-liberty-247305/



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[Bog99]

Doesn't anyone see the Christian connection with this?:



https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/magic-sentences-liberty-247305/


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[Bog99]

Doesn't anyone see the Christian connection with this?:



https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/magic-sentences-liberty-247305/



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[mellincf]

Sorry for you, but this is an open forum.

Your accusation of Trump being a liar has never been substantiated by you. So, you are wrong on that. Do I really need to embarrass you on all of your inaccurate accusations? After all, it is you that attacks everyone that does not agree with your statements.

Most Americans DO support their president. It is those that do not support their country via their president that are of questionable character. Calling the president vulgar names and disparaging him based on ONLY his character is the sign of an adolescent or just a loser. Your choice, or both.

You don't even know me, yet you accuse me of being "uneducated" and "evil." Thus the comment substantiated by your own actions, "spoken like a true Christian." Don't worry, it was not a correct assessment of you. It was likely meant to be sardonic.

Just a note: Accusing someone of not being "educated" after admitting that you did not vote for a valid candidate during the election, and then attempting to convince anyone of your political superiority is really interesting. I'm sure that the humor in it is not lost on the others either. Trump said he would build a great big beautiful wall and Mexico would pay for it. Are they going to pay for it? Hasn't he now said it would be a "virtual wall" or a "solar" wall or a "transparent" wall (so you could avoid people being hit on the head when drug dealers toss over their bundles of drugs...that alone is a statement worthy of Milton Berle). Did he not say he would "repeal and replace Obamacare on day one"? Was that not a lie? Did he not say he "knows more than the generals"? Did he not say he would "defeat ISIS in 30 days"? And finally, on the day he swore on TV that he had nothing to do with Russia - that very evening he signed a letter of intent to build a hotel in Moscow, after months of negotiations with Russians. Donald Trump pursued deal to build Trump Tower in Moscow during presidential run | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-tower-moscow-russia-presidential-campaign-felix-sater-emails-brooklyn-vladimir-putin-a7916006.html)
Most Americans DO NOT support this president, even Fox will agree that his approval rate is in the 30% range, which means well over 60% do NOT support Trump. Plus his international approval rate is even LOWER than that. “Trump is, by far, the least capable person ever to sit in the office and it’s appalling they have to deal with him,” said the president of Eurasia Group, a global risk-assessment firm. “Even in a country that really needs to have a good relationship with the United States, you’re just not willing to deal with it. You will say, ‘Screw this guy.’ ” Trump Unpopular Worldwide, American Image Suffers | Pew Research Center (http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/)

[Bog99]

Trump said he would build a great big beautiful wall and Mexico would pay for it. Are they going to pay for it? Hasn't he now said it would be a "virtual wall" or a "solar" wall or a "transparent" wall (so you could avoid people being hit on the head when drug dealers toss over their bundles of drugs...that alone is a statement worthy of Milton Berle). Did he not say he would "repeal and replace Obamacare on day one"? Was that not a lie? Did he not say he "knows more than the generals"? Did he not say he would "defeat ISIS in 30 days"? And finally, on the day he swore on TV that he had nothing to do with Russia - that very evening he signed a letter of intent to build a hotel in Moscow, after months of negotiations with Russians. Donald Trump pursued deal to build Trump Tower in Moscow during presidential run | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-tower-moscow-russia-presidential-campaign-felix-sater-emails-brooklyn-vladimir-putin-a7916006.html)
Most Americans DO NOT support this president, even Fox will agree that his approval rate is in the 30% range, which means well over 60% do NOT support Trump. Plus his international approval rate is even LOWER than that. “Trump is, by far, the least capable person ever to sit in the office and it’s appalling they have to deal with him,” said the president of Eurasia Group, a global risk-assessment firm. “Even in a country that really needs to have a good relationship with the United States, you’re just not willing to deal with it. You will say, ‘Screw this guy.’ ” Trump Unpopular Worldwide, American Image Suffers | Pew Research Center (http://www.pewglobal.org/2017/06/26/u-s-image-suffers-as-publics-around-world-question-trumps-leadership/)
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Trump has SOLID SUPPORT among Real Americans (not spoiled Femo-Fascists) because he understands this:



https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/magic-sentences-liberty-247305/


Which you obviously don't.









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[Bog99]

Any Christians out there want to take a shot at the connection between Christianity and this:




https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/magic-sentences-liberty-247305/



(no smart-ass answers from the Femo-Fascists, please)

[mellincf]

Any Christians out there want to take a shot at the connection between Christianity and this:




https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/magic-sentences-liberty-247305/



(no smart-ass answers from the Femo-Fascists, please) We don't even bother to read your tiresome posts.

[Bog99]

We don't even bother to read your tiresome posts.

I'm not surprised. People hear aren't interested in this fundamental fact while they float down the river of hear-myself-talk gibberish that passes for intellectualism here.

Confronting and accepting the truth about Liberty ...

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/magic-sentences-liberty-247305/

would take all the fun out of this hideous play-with-fire crap we call politics.

"Here's what I think" .... well, in Liberty, nobody cares what you think, except socially, and there different rules apply -- being a smart-ss Femo-Fascist doesn't go over so well if you can't impose the Femo-Fascism through the government, with the natural superiority you find among those obnoxious Femo-Fascists.

This is just another Liberal coffee-klotch echo chamber, like that stupid CNN or the New York Times.

[mellincf]

I'm not surprised. People hear aren't interested in this fundamental fact while they float down the river of hear-myself-talk gibberish that passes for intellectualism here.

Confronting and accepting the truth about Liberty ...

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/magic-sentences-liberty-247305/

would take all the fun out of this hideous play-with-fire crap we call politics.

"Here's what I think" .... well, in Liberty, nobody cares what you think, except socially, and there different rules apply -- being a smart-ss Femo-Fascist doesn't go over so well if you can't impose the Femo-Fascism through the government, with the natural superiority you find among those obnoxious Femo-Fascists.

This is just another Liberal coffee-klotch echo chamber, like that stupid CNN or the New York Times.

Causes of Gynophobia
Psychiatrists believe that the fear of women phobia usually occurs in men having unresolved conflicts with their mothers. Abandonment or physical abuse inflicted by strict mothers in one’s childhood can cause Gynophobia. Childhood Gynophobia often resolves on its own but might persist well into adulthood. Such men tend to view women as physical or emotional threat.

Often, a child on the verge of puberty might have been sexually abused by a violent woman, leading to a cycle of hatred towards all women for life.

Some cases of fear of women phobia can arise later in life when an adult man might have been put down or insulted severely by a woman. This can lead to overwhelming thoughts of humiliation and rejection leading him to mistrust all women.

[Don Baldwin]

Causes of Gynophobia
Psychiatrists believe that the fear of women phobia usually occurs in men having unresolved conflicts with their mothers. Abandonment or physical abuse inflicted by strict mothers in one’s childhood can cause Gynophobia. Childhood Gynophobia often resolves on its own but might persist well into adulthood. Such men tend to view women as physical or emotional threat.

Often, a child on the verge of puberty might have been sexually abused by a violent woman, leading to a cycle of hatred towards all women for life.

Some cases of fear of women phobia can arise later in life when an adult man might have been put down or insulted severely by a woman. This can lead to overwhelming thoughts of humiliation and rejection leading him to mistrust all women.

You think he's got a PHOBIA of women? He's AFRAID of women?

Just the opposite lady...he's got nothing but contempt and considers you nothing more than a sperm receptacle. He wants you OUT of everything you screw up. Women in general ARE too emotional to make the kind of tough and rational decisions that governance demands. EVERY women/minority Congressional District I can think of...is a mess. Every woman/minority governed city is a mess...socially and financially.

You wreck things with the misguided search for nirvana. The misguided search for equality...for there is NO racial.gender equality.

[Bog99]

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https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/who-real-americans-vote-247605/?posted=1#post1458716


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[Bog99]

You think he's got a PHOBIA of women? He's AFRAID of women?

Just the opposite lady...he's got nothing but contempt and considers you nothing more than a sperm receptacle. He wants you OUT of everything you screw up. Women in general ARE too emotional to make the kind of tough and rational decisions that governance demands. EVERY women/minority Congressional District I can think of...is a mess. Every woman/minority governed city is a mess...socially and financially.

You wreck things with the misguided search for nirvana. The misguided search for equality...for there is NO racial.gender equality.

Thank you.

I offer the following proactive step to reverse the degradation of Femo-Fascism:


https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/how-rid-senate-femo-fascist-idiots-247586/


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[Bog99]

Golden Rule of politics?

[Bog99]

Golden Rule of politics?

???

[Bog99]

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[TexaninVA]

I learned a LOT about religion and deities, when I wondered "why don't I get what everyone else does"? I learned...they've been snookered...for 10%.

There are a LOT of "God's Laws" they don't follow. Their "Bible" has been picked over, rewritten, books deleted...until it became a shell of the "original". They believe that the books of Matthew and John are "original" written by the original apostles. The Protestants were protesting...

The trouble is...they get their information fro fellow believers and they never get to hear opposing views. Like here when I talk about minorities...they have their preconceived beliefs and they won't hear ANYTHING contradictory.



If you know the answer...you don't have a question. And you THINK you have an answer with a "God"...you couldn't be more wrong.



You MUST know the trees to know the forest. For the forest is nothing if not a collection of individual trees.

You would probably be a lot happier if you just went ahead and prayed to Allah 5x a day

[mellincf]

You would probably be a lot happier if you just went ahead and prayed to Allah 5x a day Allah is simply the Arabic word for God. So, yes, they pray to God 5 times every day. They also say a prayer over every animal they kill for food, and send it to its death humanely. Now consider how "Christians" get their beef...thousands herded into slaughterhouses smelling of blood and fear, then clubbing to death. Hmmm.

[Don Baldwin]

You would probably be a lot happier if you just went ahead and prayed to Allah 5x a day

How far back did you go for that post?

Allah is simply the Arabic word for God. So, yes, they pray to God 5 times every day. They also say a prayer over every animal they kill for food, and send it to its death humanely. Now consider how "Christians" get their beef...thousands herded into slaughterhouses smelling of blood and fear, then clubbing to death. Hmmm.

It's also the SAME God as the Jews and Christians...

Just different "interpretations" of what God wants/demands.

[Wiotte]

How far back did you go for that post?







It's also the SAME God as the Jews and Christians...



Just different "interpretations" of what God wants/demands.



I have a problem with any diety that demands anything from anyone.


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[Bog99]

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The point of this post was to connect Christianity to Liberty, through the Golden Rule, as follows:

The Magic Sentences of Liberty

Liberty is a poetic term for property rights.

Therefore there are only two kind of laws:

Type 1) those that protect property rights

Type 2) and those that attack property rights <--- where fascism of all kinds live

"Have the government do unto others and their property as you'd have the government do unto you, and your property."

We can eliminate 90% of the conflict we call politics with first principles of liberty.

[Don Baldwin]

I have a problem with any diety that demands anything from anyone.


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"What does God need with a starship?"

What could a Omnipotent God want/need from us?

To be worshiped? Really? Self esteem problem? God may very well be a woman!

[rubicon]

Well it seems that in this nation today what we need more than ever is a belief and faith in God.

I have rediscovered the rosary and I offer my prayers in behalf of this great nation that seems to be going adrift into prolific stupidity.

Am I a Christian? yes. Am I a good Christian? I will leave that to be answered by my God.

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

Well it seems that in this nation today what we need more than ever is a belief and faith in God.

I have rediscovered the rosary and I offer my prayers in behalf of this great nation that seems to be going adrift into prolific stupidity.

Am I a Christian? yes. Am I a good Christian? I will leave that to be answered by my God.

Personal Best Regards:

Our FORMERLY great nation is suffering from minority majority...it will NEVER recover.

You'll be waiting a LONG time...

[MDLNB]

Well it seems that in this nation today what we need more than ever is a belief and faith in God.

I have rediscovered the rosary and I offer my prayers in behalf of this great nation that seems to be going adrift into prolific stupidity.

Am I a Christian? yes. Am I a good Christian? I will leave that to be answered by my God.

Personal Best Regards:

:thumbup:

[rubicon]

"What does God need with a starship?"

What could a Omnipotent God want/need from us?

To be worshiped? Really? Self esteem problem? God may very well be a woman!

Everything you write speaks to your state of mind. You have allowed yourself to become tainted with hate, anger and despair and hence hopelessness. You are one who needs to reflect and to engage in reaffirmations.

Indeed the world is an imperfect place but an intelligent person does not allow him/herself to remain unhappy. Intelligent people work at finding the good in this life.

"Two men looking out from bars
One sees the ground, the other the stars"

Thankfully you and I are not wards of N. Korea gulags
thankfully we are not imprisoned for our beliefs, our politics.

Unfortunately it seems easier for you to place blame on a whole race of people or gender.

You continue to confuse "character/behaviors with color, etc"

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

Everything you write speaks to your state of mind. You have allowed yourself to become tainted with hate, anger and despair and hence hopelessness. You are one who needs to reflect and to engage in reaffirmations.

Indeed the world is an imperfect place but an intelligent person does not allow him/herself to remain unhappy. Intelligent people work at finding the good in this life.

"Two men looking out from bars
One sees the ground, the other the stars"

Thankfully you and I are not wards of N. Korea gulags
thankfully we are not imprisoned for our beliefs, our politics.

Unfortunately it seems easier for you to place blame on a whole race of people or gender.

You continue to confuse "character/behaviors with color, etc"

Personal Best Regards:

Everything I write is TRUTH...is REALITY...is what's happening.

WHAT improves when that RACE shows up? What? Name me ONE thing that gets better when blacks start showing up. Do they IMPROVE schools and neighborhoods? No...they DESTROY them.

It IS their character...their violence...their stupidity...their dirtiness...they ruin EVERYTHING they touch.

I'm STILL waiting for anyone to tell me...what are the things that blacks improve?

[graciegirl]

I am a Christian. Not a wonderful example but still a Christian.

I love many things about our faith. I think the world is better for it.

I respect all faiths except the ones that say in their holy book that you should kill all others who aren't in your faith.

And I am annoyed with some who don't see that danger.

Grace G.

[Don Baldwin]

I am a Christian. Not a wonderful example but still a Christian.

I love many things about our faith. I think the world is better for it.

I respect all faiths except the ones that say in their holy book that you should kill all others who aren't in your faith.

And I am annoyed with some who don't see that danger.

Grace G.

Why do you "respect" people who are wrong?

If I keep telling you...insisting...the sky is red...would you respect me?

If I keep telling you "God" is really made out of spaghetti and orbits the earth...would you respect me?

How about this...if I kept insisting that the genders are EQUAL in their abilities...that blacks were just as smart and capable as white people...would you respect me?

EVERY one of those statements were false...and NOT something you "respect" someone for believing.

[MDLNB]

I am a Christian. Not a wonderful example but still a Christian.

I love many things about our faith. I think the world is better for it.

I respect all faiths except the ones that say in their holy book that you should kill all others who aren't in your faith.

And I am annoyed with some who don't see that danger.

Grace G.

:thumbup:

[mellincf]

:thumbup:

The Bible is MUCH more violent than the Qu'ran. Christianity is the bloodiest religion in the history of the world. We've been killing Muslims at a rate of 8 every minute. Christians have been killing Muslims in Afghanistan since 1838. Christians in Germany sent 6 million to the gas chambers. Christians are the only ones in history to drop atomic weapons on a civilian population. American Christians shoot each other at a rate of 93 every single day.

'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html)

America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign | Medea Benjamin | Opinion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy)

[mellincf]

There is no group in the United States less attached to its own ideals or more eager for its own exploitation than religious conservatives. Forget Augustine and Aquinas, Wilberforce and Shaftesbury. For many years, leaders of the religious right exactly conformed Christian social teaching to the contours of Fox News evening programming.
Now, according to Bannon, “economic nationalism” is the “centerpiece of value voters.” I had thought the centerpiece was a vision of human dignity rooted in faith. But never mind. Evidently the Christian approach to social justice is miraculously identical to 1930s Republican protectionism, isolationism and nativism.
The religious right is making itself a pitiful appendage to this squalid agenda. If Christian conservatives are loyal enough, Bannon promises that they can be “the folks who saved the Judeo-Christian West.” All that is required is to abandon the best of the Judeo-Christian tradition: a belief in the inherent value and dignity of every life.
The religious right is an interest group seeking preference and advancement from a strongman — and rewarding him with loyal acceptance of his priorities. The prophets have become clients. The priests have become acolytes.

The religious right carries its golden calf into Steve Bannon’s battles - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-religious-right-carries-its-golden-calf-into-steve-bannons-battles/2017/10/16/53717dcc-b28c-11e7-be94-fabb0f1e9ffb_story.html?utm_term=.2a69676c8c36&wpisrc=nl_popns&wpmm=1)

[Rockyrd]

The Bible is MUCH more violent than the Qu'ran. Christianity is the bloodiest religion in the history of the world. We've been killing Muslims at a rate of 8 every minute. Christians have been killing Muslims in Afghanistan since 1838. Christians in Germany sent 6 million to the gas chambers. Christians are the only ones in history to drop atomic weapons on a civilian population. American Christians shoot each other at a rate of 93 every single day.

'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html)

These folks who insist on the labeling of other human beings never read any others"good book".

They hang on the word of avowed terrorists with an agenda. I cannot speak for all, but to be so programmed by bad people to believe the reason THEY give for being bad applies to whomever they designate, and to repel what good people say s simply hard to understand.

[graciegirl]

The Bible is MUCH more violent than the Qu'ran. Christianity is the bloodiest religion in the history of the world. We've been killing Muslims at a rate of 8 every minute. Christians have been killing Muslims in Afghanistan since 1838. Christians in Germany sent 6 million to the gas chambers. Christians are the only ones in history to drop atomic weapons on a civilian population. American Christians shoot each other at a rate of 93 every single day.

'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html)

America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign | Medea Benjamin | Opinion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy)

Christianity ONLY deals with the New Testament. The old Testament was before Christ's birth.

[dirtbanker]

Hey Mellinhead - do you have any statistics of how many Christians wrap bombs on their body and walk into public places and blow up unarmed, un aware, innocent people?

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[Wiotte]

Hey Mellinhead - do you have any statistics of how many Christians wrap bombs on their body and walk into public places and blow up unarmed, un aware, innocent people?

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The Irish Republican Army did a lot of bombing back in the day. Many “civilians” were killed, many Irish supported them including many Irish Americans including politicians. “English out of Ireland” was a popular chant and I remember seeing many bumper stickers. One man’s terrorist is another man’s patriot.


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[mellincf]

Hey Mellinhead - do you have any statistics of how many Christians wrap bombs on their body and walk into public places and blow up unarmed, un aware, innocent people?

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G890A using TapatalkNo, Christians use rifles from 36 stories up to kill 59 and injure over 500 unaware, unarmed, innocent people. The rest of the time they do it remotely via the USAF.

[Wiotte]

No, Christians use rifles from 36 stories up to kill 59 and injure over 500 unaware, unarmed, innocent people. The rest of the time they do it remotely via the USAF.



It took this American to do what ISIS can only dream of.


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[dirtbanker]

No, Christians use rifles from 36 stories up to kill 59 and injure over 500 unaware, unarmed, innocent people. The rest of the time they do it remotely via the USAF.Now now Mellinhead, presenting a "one off incident" is hardly statistically making of a point (your 15.7 IQ is showing)...obviously the coward in Vegas was not a good Christian, if he was one at all.

I am always suspect of someone that needs to go to church more than once a week...how many bad thoughts does that person have a week??

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[dirtbanker]

It took this American to do what ISIS can only dream of.


Sent from my iPhone using TapatalkEven when it's being a coward, we are the best at everything...now Don is going to point out the success was due to race.

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[Abby10]

No, Christians use rifles from 36 stories up to kill 59 and injure over 500 unaware, unarmed, innocent people. The rest of the time they do it remotely via the USAF.

He may have been an American, but I doubt he was a Christian.

[Bog99]

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The point of this post was to connect Christianity to Liberty, through the Golden Rule, as follows:

The Magic Sentences of Liberty

Liberty is a poetic term for property rights.

Therefore there are only two kind of laws:

Type 1) those that protect property rights

Type 2) and those that attack property rights <--- where fascism of all kinds live

"Have the government do unto others and their property as you'd have the government do unto you, and your property."

We can eliminate 90% of the conflict we call politics with first principles of liberty.

[Wiotte]

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The point of this post was to connect Christianity to Liberty, through the Golden Rule, as follows:



The Magic Sentences of Liberty



Liberty is a poetic term for property rights.



Therefore there are only two kind of laws:



Type 1) those that protect property rights



Type 2) and those that attack property rights <--- where fascism of all kinds live



"Have the government do unto others and their property as you'd have the government do unto you, and your property."



We can eliminate 90% of the conflict we call politics with first principles of liberty.



See, you can make sense. Please, carry on...


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[Bog99]

See, you can make sense. Please, carry on...


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Thank you -- but one way or another, I've been saying this for months, it seems. Can't people connect the dots ????


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[graciegirl]

Mellin. You are anti-Christian. You are anti-military. You are anti-big business.

You are annoying as hell.

[dirtbanker]

Mellin. You are anti-Christian. You are anti-military. You are anti-big business.

You are annoying as hell.Yes, but she has an IQ of 17.5, she can beat anyone on the tennis court, and she is hot...

Go ahead and admit your jealous of her tennis skill...

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[mellincf]

Mellin. You are anti-Christian. You are anti-military. You are anti-big business.

You are annoying as hell.

But my posts are accurate and well researched, so I can't really help it if facts annoy you.

[ColdNoMore]

But my posts are accurate and well researched, so I can't really help it if facts annoy you.

TOUFRIGGINGCHE!! :1rotfl: :1rotfl:


:boom:

[Rockyrd]

Mellin. You are anti-Christian. You are anti-military. You are anti-big business.

You are annoying as hell.

I know you put me on ignore, but I would be remiss Gracie if I did not offer congratulations on officially becoming one of the trolls.

Every time confronted with facts, then come you trolls..attack that poster..ignore the substance....facts do not matter.

You, DIRTBANKER, bog99, you are all the same.

You showed us all...you really are a TROLL

[mellincf]

Now now Mellinhead, presenting a "one off incident" is hardly statistically making of a point (your 15.7 IQ is showing)...obviously the coward in Vegas was not a good Christian, if he was one at all.

I am always suspect of someone that needs to go to church more than once a week...how many bad thoughts does that person have a week??

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The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly average of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly average of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trump’s election.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit that researches U.S. extremism, reported 900 bias-related incidents against minorities in the first 10 days after Trump’s election—compared to several dozen in a normal week—and the group found that many of the harassers invoked the then-president-elect’s name. Similarly, the Anti-Defamation League, a nonprofit that tracks anti-Semitism, recorded an 86 percent rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the first three months of 2017.


White extremist murders: Killed at least 70 in U.S. since 1995. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/18/white_extremist_murders_killed_at_least_60_in_u_s_ since_1995.html)

Homegrown Terrorism and Why the Threat of Right-Wing Extremism Is Rising in America (http://www.newsweek.com/homegrown-terrorism-rising-threat-right-wing-extremism-619724)

[mellincf]

Christianity ONLY deals with the New Testament. The old Testament was before Christ's birth. And the New Testament was after Christ's death. There is no contemporaneous account of Christ. All of the Gospels were written years after the historical Jesus was dead for decades. Scholars who specialize in the origins of Christianity agree on very little, but they do generally agree that it is most likely that a historical preacher, on whom the Christian figure "Jesus Christ" is based, did exist. The oldest Gospel, that of Mark, was written no earlier than 60-80 years after Christ was dead. People who take the Bible as literal, need to study its history.

[graciegirl]

The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly average of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly average of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trump’s election.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit that researches U.S. extremism, reported 900 bias-related incidents against minorities in the first 10 days after Trump’s election—compared to several dozen in a normal week—and the group found that many of the harassers invoked the then-president-elect’s name. Similarly, the Anti-Defamation League, a nonprofit that tracks anti-Semitism, recorded an 86 percent rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the first three months of 2017.


White extremist murders: Killed at least 70 in U.S. since 1995. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/18/white_extremist_murders_killed_at_least_60_in_u_s_ since_1995.html)

Homegrown Terrorism and Why the Threat of Right-Wing Extremism Is Rising in America (http://www.newsweek.com/homegrown-terrorism-rising-threat-right-wing-extremism-619724)

What are you talking about???? I don't know a single person who is anywhere close to being a white extremist. The Southern Poverty Center says there are less than 5000 KKK members in the U.S....(5000 too many) Where are all these hate crimes happening? I never hear of them.You are quoting invalid sources.

You know Mellencamp.... You aren't really informed at all. LINK....to some valid sources; Guardian, CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, Vox,so we can read. I don't trust your sourcing at all. Slate is a left wing rag. The second, proported to be from Newsweek is FAKE NEWS. It says it was originally reported on "The Conversation". Newsweek has it's own staff, bub. . It has a Reuters sub on it. This is not from Newsweek at all.

[dirtbanker]

The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly average of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly average of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trump’s election.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit that researches U.S. extremism, reported 900 bias-related incidents against minorities in the first 10 days after Trump’s election—compared to several dozen in a normal week—and the group found that many of the harassers invoked the then-president-elect’s name. Similarly, the Anti-Defamation League, a nonprofit that tracks anti-Semitism, recorded an 86 percent rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the first three months of 2017.


White extremist murders: Killed at least 70 in U.S. since 1995. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/18/white_extremist_murders_killed_at_least_60_in_u_s_ since_1995.html)

Homegrown Terrorism and Why the Threat of Right-Wing Extremism Is Rising in America (http://www.newsweek.com/homegrown-terrorism-rising-threat-right-wing-extremism-619724)

Hot and smoking crack...

I almost peed myself on the "far right ideology".

I was wondering if you could define "far right ideology", for us that you consider are lower on the IQ scale.

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[mellincf]

What are you talking about???? I don't know a single person who is anywhere close to being a white extremist. The Southern Poverty Center says there are less than 5000 KKK members in the U.S....(5000 too many) Where are all these hate crimes happening? I never hear of them.You are quoting invalid sources.

You know Mellencamp.... You aren't really informed at all. LINK....to some valid sources; Guardian, CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, Vox,so we can read. I don't trust your sourcing at all. Slate is a left wing rag. The second, proported to be from Newsweek is FAKE NEWS. It says it was originally reported on "The Conversation". Newsweek has it's own staff, bub. . It has a Reuters sub on it. This is not from Newsweek at all. It was on Newsweek's website. But if you insist:
In another horrific terrorist attack by another young white supremacist, Dylann Roof shot and killed nine people in a predominantly black church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015. Generally, more terrorist attacks in the US are perpetrated by right-wing extremists than by Islamists, according to data from Reveal (although, overall, there are still very few terrorist acts in the US). The radicalization of white Americans - Vox (https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/18/16151924/radicalization-white-supremacists-nazis)

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It was on Newsweek's website. But if you insist:
In another horrific terrorist attack by another young white supremacist, Dylann Roof shot and killed nine people in a predominantly black church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015. Generally, more terrorist attacks in the US are perpetrated by right-wing extremists than by Islamists, according to data from Reveal (although, overall, there are still very few terrorist acts in the US). The radicalization of white Americans - Vox (https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/18/16151924/radicalization-white-supremacists-nazis)

Extremely sad and extremely unusual.

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The Bible is MUCH more violent than the Qu'ran. Christianity is the bloodiest religion in the history of the world. We've been killing Muslims at a rate of 8 every minute. Christians have been killing Muslims in Afghanistan since 1838. Christians in Germany sent 6 million to the gas chambers. Christians are the only ones in history to drop atomic weapons on a civilian population. American Christians shoot each other at a rate of 93 every single day.

'Violence more common' in Bible than Quran, text analysis reveals | The Independent (http://www.independent.co.uk/arts-entertainment/books/violence-more-common-in-bible-than-quran-text-analysis-reveals-a6863381.html)

America dropped 26,171 bombs in 2016. What a bloody end to Obama's reign | Medea Benjamin | Opinion | The Guardian (https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2017/jan/09/america-dropped-26171-bombs-2016-obama-legacy)

Oh please...Muslims conquered all of N Africa, Spain, and much of France...violently...until they were repelled in the Crusades.

Christianity ONLY deals with the New Testament. The old Testament was before Christ's birth.

The OT "God" doesn't exist? Doesn't matter? You opted for the kinder, gentler, God?

No, Christians use rifles from 36 stories up to kill 59 and injure over 500 unaware, unarmed, innocent people. The rest of the time they do it remotely via the USAF.

White men...apex humans.

It took this American to do what ISIS can only dream of.


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OK...I'll say it...ONE white guy...did what an entire organization couldn't? Either they're idiots...or the whole "terrorist" thing is a big lie.

Now now Mellinhead, presenting a "one off incident" is hardly statistically making of a point (your 15.7 IQ is showing)...obviously the coward in Vegas was not a good Christian, if he was one at all.

I am always suspect of someone that needs to go to church more than once a week...how many bad thoughts does that person have a week??

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Exactly...it's VERY rare...less than one a year?

Even when it's being a coward, we are the best at everything...now Don is going to point out the success was due to race.

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You NEVER see a black man pull something like this off.

But my posts are accurate and well researched, so I can't really help it if facts annoy you.

Hey! My posts are like that too...

The number of violent attacks on U.S. soil inspired by far-right ideology has spiked since the beginning of this century, rising from a yearly average of 70 attacks in the 1990s to a yearly average of more than 300 since 2001. These incidents have grown even more common since President Donald Trump’s election.
The Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit that researches U.S. extremism, reported 900 bias-related incidents against minorities in the first 10 days after Trump’s election—compared to several dozen in a normal week—and the group found that many of the harassers invoked the then-president-elect’s name. Similarly, the Anti-Defamation League, a nonprofit that tracks anti-Semitism, recorded an 86 percent rise in anti-Semitic incidents in the first three months of 2017.


White extremist murders: Killed at least 70 in U.S. since 1995. (http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2015/06/18/white_extremist_murders_killed_at_least_60_in_u_s_ since_1995.html)

Homegrown Terrorism and Why the Threat of Right-Wing Extremism Is Rising in America (http://www.newsweek.com/homegrown-terrorism-rising-threat-right-wing-extremism-619724)

Huh? Where? You're full of sh!t...and it still doesn't compare to the violence of blacks in the inner cities. The inner cities are no-go zones even for police. The inner cities are perpetual killing fields.

And the New Testament was after Christ's death. There is no contemporaneous account of Christ. All of the Gospels were written years after the historical Jesus was dead for decades. Scholars who specialize in the origins of Christianity agree on very little, but they do generally agree that it is most likely that a historical preacher, on whom the Christian figure "Jesus Christ" is based, did exist. The oldest Gospel, that of Mark, was written no earlier than 60-80 years after Christ was dead. People who take the Bible as literal, need to study its history.

ALL of this is true...

People who take RELIGION seriously...need to study its history!

What are you talking about???? I don't know a single person who is anywhere close to being a white extremist. The Southern Poverty Center says there are less than 5000 KKK members in the U.S....(5000 too many) Where are all these hate crimes happening? I never hear of them.You are quoting invalid sources.

You know Mellencamp.... You aren't really informed at all. LINK....to some valid sources; Guardian, CNN, MSNBC, Reuters, Vox,so we can read. I don't trust your sourcing at all. Slate is a left wing rag. The second, proported to be from Newsweek is FAKE NEWS. It says it was originally reported on "The Conversation". Newsweek has it's own staff, bub. . It has a Reuters sub on it. This is not from Newsweek at all.

Exactly...liberals just make stuff up.

It was on Newsweek's website. But if you insist:
In another horrific terrorist attack by another young white supremacist, Dylann Roof shot and killed nine people in a predominantly black church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015. Generally, more terrorist attacks in the US are perpetrated by right-wing extremists than by Islamists, according to data from Reveal (although, overall, there are still very few terrorist acts in the US). The radicalization of white Americans - Vox (https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/18/16151924/radicalization-white-supremacists-nazis)

I thought you said there were 300 each year? Why point out something 2 years old...don't you have something current? Or are you full of sh!t saying 300 a year?

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It was on Newsweek's website. But if you insist:
In another horrific terrorist attack by another young white supremacist, Dylann Roof shot and killed nine people in a predominantly black church in Charleston, South Carolina, in 2015. Generally, more terrorist attacks in the US are perpetrated by right-wing extremists than by Islamists, according to data from Reveal (although, overall, there are still very few terrorist acts in the US). The radicalization of white Americans - Vox (https://www.vox.com/identities/2017/8/18/16151924/radicalization-white-supremacists-nazis)

SpotOn

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SpotOnHardly think "spot on" for Dillon Roof's attack on unarmed and unaware people is the right attitude...these acts by cowards should not be cheered for!

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Hardly think "spot on" for Dillon Roof's attack on unarmed and unaware people is the right attitude...these acts by cowards should not be cheered for!

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And HOW often do they happen? When a white guy kills someone it's all over the news...when a black does...it's just one of many. How many black murders in Chicago so far this year? Many hundreds?

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You pose the wrong question. Worse yet you seem unable to answer your own question.

What I would say, is that it is God alone ,who can make that judgment without equivocation about each of us.

Personal Best Regards:

Nicely stated.

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