North Korea -visit by a NYT writer

[mellincf]

A piece in the NYT about a recent visit to North Korea is both scary and sobering. I'll enclose a link and just a little bit of it:
Yet as Washington and Pyongyang confront each other over the North’s advancing nuclear weapons capability, the warlike rhetoric is escalating and, with it, the risk of conflict. After four days in North Korea, I am not at all sure that this standoff will end well. It was unsettling to hear ordinary North Koreans talk of war with calm acceptance and buy their government’s propaganda happy talk about certain victory over the United States.
...In Mr. Choe’s telling, North Korea was driven to become a nuclear power in self-defense against America’s “nuclear blackmail,” sanctions, history of confrontation, and affront to the sovereignty and dignity of the state. The North must establish “a balance of power” to hold Washington at bay, finally replace the Korean War armistice with a permanent peace treaty and focus attention on economic development, he said.
...Our interviews have persuaded me that it is also imperative for Washington to ease up on the rhetoric. Mr. Trump’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly last month crossed a line for many North Koreans because it made the fight deeply personal...

Seeing the North Korean Stalemate From the Other Side - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/opinion/sunday/north-korea-stalemate.html?smid=fb-nytopinion&smtyp=cur)

[cologal]

A piece in the NYT about a recent visit to North Korea is both scary and sobering. I'll enclose a link and just a little bit of it:
Yet as Washington and Pyongyang confront each other over the North’s advancing nuclear weapons capability, the warlike rhetoric is escalating and, with it, the risk of conflict. After four days in North Korea, I am not at all sure that this standoff will end well. It was unsettling to hear ordinary North Koreans talk of war with calm acceptance and buy their government’s propaganda happy talk about certain victory over the United States.
...In Mr. Choe’s telling, North Korea was driven to become a nuclear power in self-defense against America’s “nuclear blackmail,” sanctions, history of confrontation, and affront to the sovereignty and dignity of the state. The North must establish “a balance of power” to hold Washington at bay, finally replace the Korean War armistice with a permanent peace treaty and focus attention on economic development, he said.
...Our interviews have persuaded me that it is also imperative for Washington to ease up on the rhetoric. Mr. Trump’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly last month crossed a line for many North Koreans because it made the fight deeply personal...

Seeing the North Korean Stalemate From the Other Side - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/opinion/sunday/north-korea-stalemate.html?smid=fb-nytopinion&smtyp=cur)

Get ready for HELLFIRE to rain down upon you!

COPUFF

[Don Baldwin]

A piece in the NYT about a recent visit to North Korea is both scary and sobering. I'll enclose a link and just a little bit of it:
Yet as Washington and Pyongyang confront each other over the North’s advancing nuclear weapons capability, the warlike rhetoric is escalating and, with it, the risk of conflict. After four days in North Korea, I am not at all sure that this standoff will end well. It was unsettling to hear ordinary North Koreans talk of war with calm acceptance and buy their government’s propaganda happy talk about certain victory over the United States.
...In Mr. Choe’s telling, North Korea was driven to become a nuclear power in self-defense against America’s “nuclear blackmail,” sanctions, history of confrontation, and affront to the sovereignty and dignity of the state. The North must establish “a balance of power” to hold Washington at bay, finally replace the Korean War armistice with a permanent peace treaty and focus attention on economic development, he said.
...Our interviews have persuaded me that it is also imperative for Washington to ease up on the rhetoric. Mr. Trump’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly last month crossed a line for many North Koreans because it made the fight deeply personal...

Seeing the North Korean Stalemate From the Other Side - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/opinion/sunday/north-korea-stalemate.html?smid=fb-nytopinion&smtyp=cur)

"In Mr. Choe’s telling, North Korea was driven to become a nuclear power in self-defense against America’s “nuclear blackmail,” sanctions, history of confrontation, and affront to the sovereignty and dignity of the state. The North must establish “a balance of power” to hold Washington at bay, finally replace the Korean War armistice with a permanent peace treaty and focus attention on economic development, he said."

I agree completely with this.

Get ready for HELLFIRE to rain down upon you!

COPUFF

Oh yes...the chicken hawk...war war war...as you sit safely at home. Send someone to take care of things! Send MEN to save us...

Because women can't.

[billethkid]

So a NYT reporter bought what the North Koreans were selling.

The PRK fat man must have to take a sedative to get to sleep at night.......to calm him down from laughing his a$$ off.

[rubicon]

A piece in the NYT about a recent visit to North Korea is both scary and sobering. I'll enclose a link and just a little bit of it:
Yet as Washington and Pyongyang confront each other over the North’s advancing nuclear weapons capability, the warlike rhetoric is escalating and, with it, the risk of conflict. After four days in North Korea, I am not at all sure that this standoff will end well. It was unsettling to hear ordinary North Koreans talk of war with calm acceptance and buy their government’s propaganda happy talk about certain victory over the United States.
...In Mr. Choe’s telling, North Korea was driven to become a nuclear power in self-defense against America’s “nuclear blackmail,” sanctions, history of confrontation, and affront to the sovereignty and dignity of the state. The North must establish “a balance of power” to hold Washington at bay, finally replace the Korean War armistice with a permanent peace treaty and focus attention on economic development, he said.
...Our interviews have persuaded me that it is also imperative for Washington to ease up on the rhetoric. Mr. Trump’s speech to the United Nations General Assembly last month crossed a line for many North Koreans because it made the fight deeply personal...

Seeing the North Korean Stalemate From the Other Side - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/07/opinion/sunday/north-korea-stalemate.html?smid=fb-nytopinion&smtyp=cur)

The Wall Street Journal also had three journalist invited to N Korea. Their take on it, was that it was very staged and their ability to move around very restrictive. They did get a glimpse of what was at the end of this town were modern was turning into a third world look. essentially everything they were allowed to see is where Un has spent the nations money time human resources. Its like going to an island in the Caribbean vising a resort but don't go beyond the resort because behind is squalor as far as the eye can see

North Koreans chose who these journalist were allowed to speak to and the journalist take was that they were all well rehearsed.

Is Un mental maybe? Is because he may be mental make him dangerous, maybe?

Are there insiders who want Un taken out most likely?

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

The Wall Street Journal also had three journalist invited to N Korea. Their take on it, was that it was very staged and their ability to move around very restrictive. They did get a glimpse of what was at the end of this town were modern was turning into a third world look. essentially everything they were allowed to see is where Un has spent the nations money time human resources. Its like going to an island in the Caribbean vising a resort but don't go beyond the resort because behind is squalor as far as the eye can see

North Koreans chose who these journalist were allowed to speak to and the journalist take was that they were all well rehearsed.

Is Un mental maybe? Is because he may be mental make him dangerous, maybe?

Are there insiders who want Un taken out most likely?

Personal Best Regards:

So...he must be removed because his people are poor? Then remove the leaders of the OTHER poor countries...over 100...mostly black countries...remove their leaders too.

NK is targeted because they DON'T want to be part of the "Western world"...they refuse to join the world bank...and they're constantly threatened by the US and SK. The BIGGEST military exercise that happens every year...is the joint US/SK exercise dealing with invasion of NK. Would you worry if Canada EVERY year had an invasion of America exercise with Russia or China? The BIGGEST military exercise in the world? Would you want your government to be prepared? To use the ultimate threat of "mutually assured destruction"?

Turn OFF the TV...it's lies and propaganda. If war is coming...it's coming and the TV will just convince you that "we're" on the side of God...while we die and they get richer.

[rubicon]

So...he must be removed because his people are poor? Then remove the leaders of the OTHER poor countries...over 100...mostly black countries...remove their leaders too.

NK is targeted because they DON'T want to be part of the "Western world"...they refuse to join the world bank...and they're constantly threatened by the US and SK. The BIGGEST military exercise that happens every year...is the joint US/SK exercise dealing with invasion of NK. Would you worry if Canada EVERY year had an invasion of America exercise with Russia or China? The BIGGEST military exercise in the world? Would you want your government to be prepared? To use the ultimate threat of "mutually assured destruction"?

Turn OFF the TV...it's lies and propaganda. If war is coming...it's coming and the TV will just convince you that "we're" on the side of God...while we die and they get richer.

Please expand your mind man. Essentially my post explains that Un attempted to put up a powerful progressive but absolutely fake front.

In WWII we were outnumbered so our guys built fake tanks to fool the enemy it worked Un is essentially doing the same thing

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

Please expand your mind man. Essentially my post explains that Un attempted to put up a powerful progressive but absolutely fake front.

In WWII we were outnumbered so our guys built fake tanks to fool the enemy it worked Un is essentially doing the same thing

Personal Best Regards:

And the media is FULL of propaganda.

We KNOW...NOTHING about NK...NOTHING.

This is the SAME as the propaganda about Russia, Japan, Germany...More recently Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan.

YOU are being played by our military too! It's PART of warfare to lie to EVERYONE.

[mellincf]

The Wall Street Journal also had three journalist invited to N Korea. Their take on it, was that it was very staged and their ability to move around very restrictive. They did get a glimpse of what was at the end of this town were modern was turning into a third world look. essentially everything they were allowed to see is where Un has spent the nations money time human resources. Its like going to an island in the Caribbean vising a resort but don't go beyond the resort because behind is squalor as far as the eye can see

North Koreans chose who these journalist were allowed to speak to and the journalist take was that they were all well rehearsed.

Is Un mental maybe? Is because he may be mental make him dangerous, maybe?

Are there insiders who want Un taken out most likely?

Personal Best Regards: I spent some time in China in 1977, studying for my thesis for my master's degree there. In an entire summer, I counted 4 cars (and they were government). I was watched constantly, most of the general population were friendly and in awe of my white skin and "round eyes". But the military watched me carefully. I've been in some really, really poor countries, but this one was near the top. However, now Beijing rivals New York, nearly everyone has a car, a TV, a washing machine (once a huge deal). What I'm saying is, don't underestimate the Asians. South Korea and Japan have a very similar story. Is North Korea next?

[mellincf]

The Wall Street Journal also had three journalist invited to N Korea. Their take on it, was that it was very staged and their ability to move around very restrictive. They did get a glimpse of what was at the end of this town were modern was turning into a third world look. essentially everything they were allowed to see is where Un has spent the nations money time human resources. Its like going to an island in the Caribbean vising a resort but don't go beyond the resort because behind is squalor as far as the eye can see

North Koreans chose who these journalist were allowed to speak to and the journalist take was that they were all well rehearsed.

Is Un mental maybe? Is because he may be mental make him dangerous, maybe?



Personal Best Regards: North Koreans are taught from childhood that the Kim family are Gods on Earth. They praise Un constantly, the stories and news are about his greatness, his prowess, his divinity. They are also taught to hate the USA. For example, their math lessons go: "If there are 3 American bastards and meet two more American bastards, how many American bastards are there?" There is no internet AT ALL, it's internal only. There is no outside news AT ALL except a few smuggled DVD movies. They literally have no idea and think their country is the greatest, strongest, and richest on the face of the earth.

[ColdNoMore]

North Koreans are taught from childhood that the Kim family are Gods on Earth. They praise Un constantly, the stories and news are about his greatness, his prowess, his divinity. They are also taught to hate the USA. For example, their math lessons go: "If there are 3 American bastards and meet two more American bastards, how many American bastards are there?" There is no internet AT ALL, it's internal only. There is no outside news AT ALL except a few smuggled DVD movies. They literally have no idea.

Trump is extremely jealous of the total control and lack of criticism...that Un has over his country.


He is livid, that he cannot achieve the same result...and is doing everything possible to head that way.


Trying to label news as 'fake,' that is simply posting exactly what he says and tweets...is the tip of the spear of his real intent.

[affald]

Trump is extremely jealous of the total control and lack of criticism...that Un has over his country.


He is livid, that he cannot achieve the same result...and is doing everything possible to head that way.


Trying to label news as 'fake,' that is simply posting exactly what he says and tweets...is the tip of the spear of his real intent.Seems if you are able to read someone's feelings you would have better predicted the election. Lol... and the next election.

[Don Baldwin]

North Koreans are taught from childhood that the Kim family are Gods on Earth. They praise Un constantly, the stories and news are about his greatness, his prowess, his divinity. They are also taught to hate the USA. For example, their math lessons go: "If there are 3 American bastards and meet two more American bastards, how many American bastards are there?" There is no internet AT ALL, it's internal only. There is no outside news AT ALL except a few smuggled DVD movies. They literally have no idea and think their country is the greatest, strongest, and richest on the face of the earth.

You've been there? You speak Korean?

You don't KNOW anything about Korea and what they're taught. The propaganda TV told you these things.

[dirtbanker]

I spent some time in China in 1977, studying for my thesis for my master's degree there. In an entire summer, I counted 4 cars (and they were government). I was watched constantly, most of the general population were friendly and in awe of my white skin and "round eyes". But the military watched me carefully. I've been in some really, really poor countries, but this one was near the top. However, now Beijing rivals New York, nearly everyone has a car, a TV, a washing machine (once a huge deal). What I'm saying is, don't underestimate the Asians. South Korea and Japan have a very similar story. Is North Korea next?Wow, went to China for the summer to count cars!

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[dirtbanker]

Trump is extremely jealous of the total control and lack of criticism...that Un has over his country.


He is livid, that he cannot achieve the same result...and is doing everything possible to head that way.

.

Ha, now you know what Trump is jealous of...

And, your a trained professional that has come to the conclusion that Trump is livid...

Starting to sound like Rockface more and more each day...



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