Feminizing The American Male

[rubicon]

The key to government power is gradualism. Even the most absurd of notions come to be accepted over a long enough time frame. Political power is maximized by forcibly leveling every individual to the same status of conformity, and collectivism, This is accomplished not by raising up the weakest, but by reducing the strongest.

The gradualist approach is effectively erasing traditional sexual norms . The subtle move includes the substitution of the word “gender” – a grammatical term – for the word sex – a biological term – as a distinguishing descriptor for male or female.

The effect is to program the mind. It removes the biological component that distinguishes male from female and inserts an esoteric component that allows for the denial of reality and creation of an alternate reality (ie the same effect as anorexia)

So the “unofficial feminist policy” in America is to feminize men in order to level the playing field for the sexes. Bottom line, the goal is homogenous and removal of patriarch society

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[Rockyrd]

The key to government power is gradualism. Even the most absurd of notions come to be accepted over a long enough time frame. Political power is maximized by forcibly leveling every individual to the same status of conformity, and collectivism, This is accomplished not by raising up the weakest, but by reducing the strongest.

The gradualist approach is effectively erasing traditional sexual norms . The subtle move includes the substitution of the word “gender” – a grammatical term – for the word sex – a biological term – as a distinguishing descriptor for male or female.

The effect is to program the mind. It removes the biological component that distinguishes male from female and inserts an esoteric component that allows for the denial of reality and creation of an alternate reality (ie the same effect as anorexia)

So the “unofficial feminist policy” in America is to feminize men in order to level the playing field for the sexes. Bottom line, the goal is homogenous and removal of patriarch society

Personal Best Regards:

If you missed any of this. You can read it again WORD FOR WORD at....

Girly men - Personal Liberty(R) (https://personalliberty.com/girly-men/)

Government Power - Political Science - Freebird | Political Discussion Forum (https://freebird.is/t/government-power/5060)

OR

A few others from which this was stolen.

In reading those site, perhaps we found out who BOG99 really is

[rubicon]

The American Psychiatric Associates publishes the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM) which is now in its 5th Edition.

In 1952 the DSM listed homosexuality as a mental disorder. In 1987 without any explanation they eliminated homosexuality as a mental disorder.
Of dubious note is the fact some psychiatrist are pushing to have homophobia listed as a mental disorder.

Is it any wonder why homosexuals jumped on this band wagon and have moved from gender to sex to non binary gender?

Is it any wonder why the left successful moved the definition of marriage as being between a man and a woman to include same sex marriage. Isn't same sex marriage an oxymoron in itself?

Hollywood elites push the homosexual agenda in every production they make. Disney once stood for family entertainment is becoming one of the worse offenders.

Picking your sexual partner today is being depicted as no different than choosing either vanilla or chocolate flavored ice cream.

We not only have a myraid of homosexual issues in our military and the inclusion of homosexual Boy Scout leaders and now the melding of boy and girls scouts with the obvious undertone of a non binary "scout"

As a side bar I went to Macy's the other day. Men;s fashion seem to have been mixed in with the women's department

the application of gradualism by our political leaders seems to be very effective indeed. Be ready because Mister , Miss , Mrs with be eliminated from our lexicon

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[Wiotte]

I’m having an urge to tuck my penus between my legs right now. OMG


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[Rockyrd]

I’m having an urge to tuck my penus between my legs right now. OMG


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To steal and then to ...well troll is a bit of a....well its a....well....sort of underhanded

[Taltarzac725]

Donald John Trump is one of the most thin-skinned men I can think of in politics.

Many women are a lot stronger when taking criticism than many men.

[Wiotte]

Can I plagiarize you ?


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[Wiotte]

Donald John Trump is one of the most thin-skinned men I can think of in politics.



Many women are a lot stronger when taking criticism than many men.



GG for one. She’s so use to it. Nothing like a woman that can take a good punch.


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[Taltarzac725]

Can I plagiarize you ?


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Some people have said that before that Trump is quite thin-skinned. Is Trump's thin skin getting in the way of his presidency? - BBC News (http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-39888641)

[graciegirl]

GG for one. She’s so use to it. Nothing like a woman that can take a good punch.


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Sumter sheriff might be interested in this post.

[Wiotte]

Sumter sheriff might be interested in this post.



Ask him the definition for an idiom.


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[rubicon]

Can I plagiarize you ?


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I have given up listing citation because people like you intentionally focus and refute any citations as being fake, etc. what I also don't do is use gutter language

However this is a compilation from Personal Liberty and an article written by Richard Dooling U of Nebraska University Law and my thoughts on the matter.

By the way in this digital world today everybody copies and pastes and that includes you so stop pretending you have the high moral ground.

I note you never addressed the issues????

Personal Best Regards:

[Wiotte]

I have given up listing citation because people like you intentionally focus and refute any citations as being fake, etc. what I also don't do is use cutter language

However this is a compilation from Personal Liberty and an article written by Richard Dooling U of Nebraska University Law and my thoughts on the matter.

By the way in this digital world today everybody copies and pastes and that includes you so stop pretending you have the high moral ground.

I note you never addressed the issues????

Personal Best Regards:



I’m not disputing what you cited. Just a bit surprised you didn’t use quotes. I happen to agree with the article.


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[Taltarzac725]

I’m not disputing what you cited. Just a bit surprised you didn’t use quotes. I happen to agree with the article.


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Some of the male 20 somethings and teens do seem a lot more sensitive to the feelings of others which seems like a good thing in our society. Many narcissistic sociopaths are only sensitive to the harm people do to them while being quite oblivious to the injuries they cause.

[mellincf]

I have given up listing citation because people like you intentionally focus and refute any citations as being fake, etc. what I also don't do is use cutter language

However this is a compilation from Personal Liberty and an article written by Richard Dooling U of Nebraska University Law and my thoughts on the matter.

By the way in this digital world today everybody copies and pastes and that includes you so stop pretending you have the high moral ground.

I note you never addressed the issues????

Personal Best Regards: For the life of me, I've never understood why people object to gays getting married. They have never been able before to enjoy liberties heterosexuals take for granted; for instance the right to visit a loved one in intensive care, or the right to inherit a spouse's pension or benefits. Why are they so afraid of gay marriage? Are they afraid some homosexual will jump out of the bushes and demand to marry them? Or is it a "religious" objection? I don't understand that either, since Jesus never said a word anywhere, any time, against homosexuals. He never married and he hung out with 12 other guys all the time. Maybe he was gay, who knows? Or cares? I do know that saying "He who is without sin cast the first stone". And the other one: "Judge not, lest ye be judged".

[Rockyrd]

I have given up listing citation because people like you intentionally focus and refute any citations as being fake, etc. what I also don't do is use cutter language

However this is a compilation from Personal Liberty and an article written by Richard Dooling U of Nebraska University Law and my thoughts on the matter.

By the way in this digital world today everybody copies and pastes and that includes you so stop pretending you have the high moral ground.

I note you never addressed the issues????

Personal Best Regards:

1. I have never, ever in my life at work or on here ever plagarized even unintentionally. When I copy and past, I give attribution as do most people. Of course you are the exception to that rule.

2. Here we go again. Every time you make such remark it really infuriates me because you must know how phoney you are. You have to. Any thread on Trump has your defense, not of the substance posted or the issue, but a condemnation of liberals, progressives or a recant of your ridiculous syndrome theory. I can say with no hesitation that you avoided every thread I have begun, whether it was on Syria, Russia, immigration or basically any of them.

I have asked you on so many occassion when you use the defense of the media lying to give just ONE SINGLE example of the MSM actually lying about Trump on news, and as of yet, you have NEVER EVER replied.

I don't know if you are BOG99 or not but you post his ideas, plagarize his favorite web sites, but what I DO know is that you are a phony for sure.

It takes a lot of nerve for you, Rubicon to charge anyone else with avoiding issues. Of that, you are king.

I did not address whatever your issue was on this thread for two reasons......

I suspected we uncovered BOG99

AND

BECAUSE You assume you are right in all things and I see absolutely nothing to indicate any feminizing of men at all. That is a made up thing which you may believe in, but not me. i stick with the real world and the issues confronting this country, one of which is not the feminization of men.

You and BOG or maybe just you should simply understand something.....you spend much too much time in these off beat websites and should be paying much more attention to the real world.

You and yours are so bogged down in conspiracy theories (ala the Presidents fav...ALEX JONES) you forget about the real world.

[Rockyrd]

By the way, the only use of "gradualism" is by your hero in the oval office.

He is making lying by a United States President an accepted fact throughout the entire world.

He is making false accusations from our White House an accepted fact throughout the world

He is making big government and intimidation by big government to be the normal, as noticed by the entire world.

He has made it the norm by gradualism to allow Nazi marchers to be able to relax because they will never be called on it.

He made this year, the first in history, that a sitting President used young boys as pawns in a political rally, VERY noticed by the rest of the world.

He has made using gradualism a sport of attacking free speech.

He, first since Nixon who did it sublimly, is making it normal to threaten the weight of his office if you dont comply.

He has made it accepted to simply fire anyone who is investigating anything close to him. VERY NOTICED BY THE WORLD

He has made it accepted to make nuclear threats which had never been done.

He, by using gradualism made it acceptable to mock war heros to entertain his guests in the WH.

He but using gradualism has slowly from condemning the use of private servers in government to outfitting his family to do so.

He, again using gradualism has practically make the word ETHICS to be obsolete.

SO much he has used your word gradualism and so much damage is being done to our country as a result.

[billethkid]

Where does letting girls in the Boy Scouts fit in these rants?

I personally think it is wrong. Some venues within the scouts will have to be changed to accommodate that which girls cannot do or do not want to do.

If anybody does not think it will affect behavior in the long run, then they would be unrealistic. A metric which holds less and less value these days.

Special interests and minority groups chipping away at the fabric of what we have been for years without complaint.

[Rockyrd]

Where does letting girls in the Boy Scouts fit in these rants?

I personally think it is wrong. Some venues within the scouts will have to be changed to accommodate that which girls cannot do or do not want to do.

If anybody does not think it will affect behavior in the long run, then they would be unrealistic. A metric which holds less and less value these days.

Special interests and minority groups chipping away at the fabric of what we have been for years without complaint.

I do not disagree with you on this issue

BUT not your conspiracy theories.

[Don Baldwin]

Some of the male 20 somethings and teens do seem a lot more sensitive to the feelings of others which seems like a good thing in our society. Many narcissistic sociopaths are only sensitive to the harm people do to them while being quite oblivious to the injuries they cause.

NO...it's NOT a good thing for society. Society NEEDS men with their own vision and the drive to accomplish it. WHAT do you think GOT you "western civilization" and all the technology you enjoy? Your comfy world was built by white men.


For the life of me, I've never understood why people object to gays getting married. They have never been able before to enjoy liberties heterosexuals take for granted; for instance the right to visit a loved one in intensive care, or the right to inherit a spouse's pension or benefits. Why are they so afraid of gay marriage? Are they afraid some homosexual will jump out of the bushes and demand to marry them? Or is it a "religious" objection? I don't understand that either, since Jesus never said a word anywhere, any time, against homosexuals. He never married and he hung out with 12 other guys all the time. Maybe he was gay, who knows? Or cares? I do know that saying "He who is without sin cast the first stone". And the other one: "Judge not, lest ye be judged".

Because a man shoving his ***** up another mans ass because he "loves him" IS a perversion. NO different than pedophilia except the victim is older.

They don't hurt anyone? Well then, lets let the sicko necrophiliacs have a go at the morgues then...they're not hurting anyone either.

Where does letting girls in the Boy Scouts fit in these rants?

I personally think it is wrong. Some venues within the scouts will have to be changed to accommodate that which girls cannot do or do not want to do.

If anybody does not think it will affect behavior in the long run, then they would be unrealistic. A metric which holds less and less value these days.

Special interests and minority groups chipping away at the fabric of what we have been for years without complaint.

No...the girls fail and are let go. HOW LOW do we drop the standards so women and minorities can "qualify"?

[rubicon]

I’m not disputing what you cited. Just a bit surprised you didn’t use quotes. I happen to agree with the article.


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You are absolutely right. I indeed have become a bit too recalcitrant but my poor excuse is the ridiculous responses one gets on this forum.

I use to spend considerable time preparing my personal responses or citing news pieces that I found illuminating and on point with my thinking to share with others, as I did here.

But instead of discussing the content with some decorum and civility the response was Trump suck or its fake news or you are a pseudo-intellectual.

These are not serious people who are well informed. and there are a few on here that are destroying this forum and we all have to watch helplessly or quit and I won't quit this forum.

As to my OP. What has happened in this nation is that people invent rights. Then after they invent them they demand they be placed into law and once they are placed into law well take a look at what the social Justice warriors have wrought to this nation with their "identity politics". Its gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your post.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

For the life of me, I've never understood why people object to gays getting married. They have never been able before to enjoy liberties heterosexuals take for granted; for instance the right to visit a loved one in intensive care, or the right to inherit a spouse's pension or benefits. Why are they so afraid of gay marriage? Are they afraid some homosexual will jump out of the bushes and demand to marry them? Or is it a "religious" objection? I don't understand that either, since Jesus never said a word anywhere, any time, against homosexuals. He never married and he hung out with 12 other guys all the time. Maybe he was gay, who knows? Or cares? I do know that saying "He who is without sin cast the first stone". And the other one: "Judge not, lest ye be judged".

Those right were always there for them. they used that is an excuse. The homosexual agenda as formalized back in 1987 ,coincidentally when the DSM removed homosexuality as a mental disorder, has been to socialize homosexuality then making it normal and once normal well. its why the removal of binary gender. Its why the demand to redefine DOMA. etc etc etc.
its why the push to have trans gender use any facility they wish.

Because I speak up I will be accused of being homophobic what eve that is suppose to mean. And hate the sin love the sinner doesn't work either.

We agree in all other mattes that people get indoctrinated religion, politics, et yet when it comes to homosexuality well its biological. well i submitted a report on these pages a while back where the Atlantic Report on the subject concluded that homosexuality is a choice and not biological. This is crucial because biological would indicate protect of the laws where as choice is different.

According to the left one has pro choice when it comes to birth but they refuse to acknowledge that homosexuality is also a choice

this is not about malice on my part but about the way of life and in my view the nation has errored . there is cognitive empathy and emotional empathy and the left always over reacts because they practice emotional empathy

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[ColdNoMore]

1. I have never, ever in my life at work or on here ever plagarized even unintentionally. When I copy and past, I give attribution as do most people. Of course you are the exception to that rule.

2. Here we go again. Every time you make such remark it really infuriates me because you must know how phoney you are. You have to. Any thread on Trump has your defense, not of the substance posted or the issue, but a condemnation of liberals, progressives or a recant of your ridiculous syndrome theory. I can say with no hesitation that you avoided every thread I have begun, whether it was on Syria, Russia, immigration or basically any of them.

I have asked you on so many occassion when you use the defense of the media lying to give just ONE SINGLE example of the MSM actually lying about Trump on news, and as of yet, you have NEVER EVER replied.

I don't know if you are BOG99 or not but you post his ideas, plagarize his favorite web sites, but what I DO know is that you are a phony for sure.

It takes a lot of nerve for you, Rubicon to charge anyone else with avoiding issues. Of that, you are king.

I did not address whatever your issue was on this thread for two reasons......

I suspected we uncovered BOG99

AND

BECAUSE You assume you are right in all things and I see absolutely nothing to indicate any feminizing of men at all. That is a made up thing which you may believe in, but not me. i stick with the real world and the issues confronting this country, one of which is not the feminization of men.

You and BOG or maybe just you should simply understand something.....you spend much too much time in these off beat websites and should be paying much more attention to the real world.

You and yours are so bogged down in conspiracy theories (ala the Presidents fav...ALEX JONES) you forget about the real world.

Your observation of just a few of RubiTHECon's plethora of personality defects...is dead on. :thumbup:

Anyone with a bit of intelligence and empathy for other human beings, runs the risk of detaching a retina in reading his blatherings...from their constant and involuntary eye rolling. :D

[ColdNoMore]

You are absolutely right. I indeed have become a bit too recalcitrant but my poor excuse is the ridiculous responses one gets on this forum.

I use to spend considerable time preparing my personal responses or citing news pieces that I found illuminating and on point with my thinking to share with others, as I did here.

But instead of discussing the content with some decorum and civility the response was Trump suck or its fake news or you are a pseudo-intellectual.

These are not serious people who are well informed. and there are a few on here that are destroying this forum and we all have to watch helplessly or quit and I won't quit this forum.

As to my OP. What has happened in this nation is that people invent rights. Then after they invent them they demand they be placed into law and once they are placed into law well take a look at what the social Justice warriors have wrought to this nation with their "identity politics". Its gone from the sublime to the ridiculous.

Sorry if I misinterpreted your post.

Personal Best Regards:

You're lying...again! :oops:

You've NEVER linked to any of the articles/sites that drives your bloviating.

If you couldn't anonymously plagiarize and cut/paste other extremists words...you would become mute.

Understandable in one respect, given that you're a pseudo-intellectual fake who depends on right-wing extremist blogs/opinions...to present your views.

It is very illuminating, that even you are ashamed to show... what gives rise to your silly blatherings.



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Don Baldwin]

Your observation of just a few of RubiTHECon's plethora of personality defects...is dead on. :thumbup:

Anyone with a bit of intelligence and empathy for other human beings, runs the risk of detaching a retina in reading his blatherings...from their constant and involuntary eye rolling. :D

Because women are ruled by emotion...you CAN'T keep it out of your lives...your "thinking".

[mellincf]

Those right were always there for them. they used that is an excuse. The homosexual agenda as formalized back in 1987 ,coincidentally when the DSM removed homosexuality as a mental disorder, has been to socialize homosexuality then making it normal and once normal well. its why the removal of binary gender. Its why the demand to redefine DOMA. etc etc etc.
its why the push to have trans gender use any facility they wish.

Because I speak up I will be accused of being homophobic what eve that is suppose to mean. And hate the sin love the sinner doesn't work either.

We agree in all other mattes that people get indoctrinated religion, politics, et yet when it comes to homosexuality well its biological. well i submitted a report on these pages a while back where the Atlantic Report on the subject concluded that homosexuality is a choice and not biological. This is crucial because biological would indicate protect of the laws where as choice is different.

According to the left one has pro choice when it comes to birth but they refuse to acknowledge that homosexuality is also a choice

this is not about malice on my part but about the way of life and in my view the nation has errored . there is cognitive empathy and emotional empathy and the left always over reacts because they practice emotional empathy

Personal Best Regards: Even if that were true (it's not) why do you care? How does someone else's sexual identity threaten you personally? Why do you wish for rights to be taken from another American simply based on what they do in the bedroom? If Jesus could be gay, why not your neighbor?

[ColdNoMore]

Even if that were true (it's not) why do you care? How does someone else's sexual identity threaten you personally? Why do you wish for rights to be taken from another American simply based on what they do in the bedroom? If Jesus could be gay, why not your neighbor?

Because of his deeply repressed, personal proclivities...of course. :D

[Don Baldwin]

Even if that were true (it's not) why do you care? How does someone else's sexual identity threaten you personally? Why do you wish for rights to be taken from another American simply based on what they do in the bedroom? If Jesus could be gay, why not your neighbor?

Hello gay mellin...

"Gayness" is in fact organic...it's a malformation during fetal development. At different stages of development, hormones are released which drive differentiation and development. During one of these hormone bursts...the "sex" of the brain and ultimately the mind is "cast in stone". If the correct balance of hormones are not present during this "wiring" stage...you get a malformation. An "XX" can be left with a brain wired for an "XY" and vice versa.

It's NOT your fault mellin...I know that. But, like other mental disorders...we can't as a society let everyone do what they want.

Pedophilia, necrophilia, these too are "hardwired" in people BORN with these illnesses. Do you REALLY think someone WANTS to be a pedophile? They are driven to it. Like you were driven towards other girls.

Change the laws for who can act as a "family" member to include close friends. Get a power of attorney. DON'T tell us...the normal people...that WE must change for you.

[rubicon]

Where does letting girls in the Boy Scouts fit in these rants?

I personally think it is wrong. Some venues within the scouts will have to be changed to accommodate that which girls cannot do or do not want to do.

If anybody does not think it will affect behavior in the long run, then they would be unrealistic. A metric which holds less and less value these days.

Special interests and minority groups chipping away at the fabric of what we have been for years without complaint.

I agree and that is exactly why I included in my original posts. I have even more of concern in the social experiments they are conducting in our military.

Years back when feminism was being pushed all male constitutions had to accept co-eds. However it never worked in reverse and all female institutions fought to keep them all female

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[rubicon]

You're lying...again! :oops:

You've NEVER linked to any of the articles/sites that drives your bloviating.

If you couldn't anonymously plagiarize and cut/paste other extremists words...you would become mute.

Understandable in one respect, given that you're a pseudo-intellectual fake who depends on right-wing extremist blogs/opinions...to present your views.

It is very illuminating, that even you are ashamed to show... what gives rise to your silly blatherings.



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

how much longer to you honestly believe you can bluff people into believing that the subject matter in political Talk is over your head. Your only contribution is silly blatherings and obsessions with emoji. you go back on my Ignore List.

Personal Best Regards:

[rubicon]

Even if that were true (it's not) why do you care? How does someone else's sexual identity threaten you personally? Why do you wish for rights to be taken from another American simply based on what they do in the bedroom? If Jesus could be gay, why not your neighbor?

My concern is not with someone's sexual identity nor what they do in their private lives. My concern is the campaign by homosexuals and their friends who have gone from being an acceptable lifestyle to an alternative lifestyle to a preferred lifestyle.

My concern is the homosexual indoctrination at all educational institution of our young . young minds are too susceptible and fragile for this heavy duty material and it is going to create unintended consequences .

My concern is that the left motive is to eliminate gender (sex) because once they do how can homosexuality really exist? its just two non-gender people attracted to one another. Now what can be wrong with that?

The left is winning the war on the feminzation of males . but then as feminist say "a gay guy is a girl's best friend.

It all goes against nature but is being pushed as "a right" and from a right a law and from a law as nature intended . Because its just a choice based on attraction what's the harm

Personal Best Regards:

[graciegirl]

My concern is not with someone's sexual identity nor what they do in their private lives. My concern is the campaign by homosexuals and their friends who have gone from being an acceptable lifestyle to an alternative lifestyle to a preferred lifestyle.

My concern is the homosexual indoctrination at all educational institution of our young . young minds are too susceptible and fragile for this heavy duty material and it is going to create unintended consequences .

My concern is that the left motive is to eliminate gender (sex) because once they do how can homosexuality really exist? its just two non-gender people attracted to one another. Now what can be wrong with that?

The left is winning the war on the feminzation of males . but then as feminist say "a gay guy is a girl's best friend.

It all goes against nature but is being pushed as "a right" and from a right a law and from a law as nature intended . Because its just a choice based on attraction what's the harm

Personal Best Regards:

I think a persons sexual orientation is determined at birth. I think it is genetic. I don't think the current "in style" fixation on gender is needed to be taught in schools. We all figured out who we were attracted to and why all by ourselves. I try to be accepting and understanding of people's differences, but all this trying to keep girls from being girly and boys from being boyish is SILLY. Everyone listen to me.

Girl's whine and boys wrestle.

They always have and they always will. It is parental love that keeps them alive.

[rubicon]

I think a persons sexual orientation is determined at birth. I think it is genetic. I don't think the current "in style" fixation on gender is needed to be taught in schools. We all figured out who we were attracted to and why all by ourselves. I try to be accepting and understanding of people's differences, but all this trying to keep girls from being girly and boys from being boyish is SILLY. Everyone listen to me.

Girl's whine and boys wrestle.

They always have and they always will. It is parental love that keeps them alive.

Experts differ on the "cause" issue. It is convenient that the left calls it biological rather than a choice because if it is biological well then it lends itself to more legitimacy and hence ....

And I would like to believe what you say about boys being boys, etc. However you ought to take a closer look at the sexual orientation school agenda. In short it is brain washing and if one kid speaks up they are shouted down as being recalcitrant. Try to have a kid walk in school with a t=shirt that promotes heterosexuality and see what the leftist administers do?
these are fragile mind susceptible and unsuspecting but very curious and hungry for answers. Indeed a lethal cocktail

Personal Best Regards:

[ColdNoMore]

Experts differ on the "cause" issue. It is convenient that the left calls it biological rather than a choice because if it is biological well then it lends itself to more legitimacy and hence ....

And I would like to believe what you say about boys being boys, etc. However you ought to take a closer look at the sexual orientation school agenda. In short it is brain washing and if one kid speaks up they are shouted down as being recalcitrant. Try to have a kid walk in school with a t=shirt that promotes heterosexuality and see what the leftist administers do?
these are fragile mind susceptible and unsuspecting but very curious and hungry for answers. Indeed a lethal cocktail

Personal Best Regards:Sexual orientation is a choice? :oops:


So tell us, at what age do you recall making the 'choice' to be heterosexual...and not homosexual?



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Don Baldwin]

Sexual orientation is a choice? :oops:


So tell us, at what age do you recall making the 'choice' to be heterosexual...and not homosexual?



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Around puberty when I began having erections.

I wanted to put it somewhere...and it sure wasn't into my friends ass.

But that is because my brain developed normally...unlike yours...and others.

Usually women or those with disabilities push for the liberal ways of "everyone shares no matter how much they contribute". Because...well...you can't/don't contribute equally. Shuffling papers in an office isn't contributing equally...building...inventing...that's contributing. Being black is a disability.

They want white men gone because we dominate over them so.

Did women create western civilization? Did blacks? Hispanics? Did they invent the technology we use?

Whites developed the power grid...whites put water into pipes to be shipped to homes...whites put in sewers to remove the waste. White MEN did these things. What did YOUR people do? Leeched off us.

[graciegirl]

Experts differ on the "cause" issue. It is convenient that the left calls it biological rather than a choice because if it is biological well then it lends itself to more legitimacy and hence ....

And I would like to believe what you say about boys being boys, etc. However you ought to take a closer look at the sexual orientation school agenda. In short it is brain washing and if one kid speaks up they are shouted down as being recalcitrant. Try to have a kid walk in school with a t=shirt that promotes heterosexuality and see what the leftist administers do?
these are fragile mind susceptible and unsuspecting but very curious and hungry for answers. Indeed a lethal cocktail

Personal Best Regards:

Being male and being female is instinctive. There is a very small percent of the population that is homosexual. Many of the males act infeminate and many gay woman act masculine. But not all by any stretch. I think most of us act instinctively toward and against confusing genders, not because we don't like them, or we don't try to understand them or care about their well being and happiness, but just because it is instinctive to be drawn toward the opposite sex and when that sex isn't clearly male or female in the traditional way we are confused on an instinctive level..

Most men would be repulsed by a sexual advance by the same gender and ditto most women. That is not a bad thing , it is an instinctive thing. Those instinctive feelings encourage procreation and continues the human race.

When we do a lot of things we do them by instinct. Protect our children. Protect our lives. Sex is complicated and powerful.

Every day in our strong young lives we made choices about what we did and why because of our instinctive inner sex programming.

I think if we trust our instincts and our moral teachings we can be kind and accepting of these sometimes confusing feelings..

It is a very complicated issue. It cannot be taught, it is there inside all of us; our sexual pull.

[rubicon]

Sexual orientation is a choice? :oops:


So tell us, at what age do you recall making the 'choice' to be heterosexual...and not homosexual?



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Well to be honest with you, when in kindergarten my parents were called to my school because of a distraction. what was I doing that distracted the class. Kissing girls. I knew I liked it but I didn't know why :D My parents did admonish my behavior but with a look of approval

So let me ask if homosexuality is not a choice but a biological event then why was it removed from the DSM in 1987? Why for example is OCD, bi-polar, schizophrenia, etc listed as mental disorders in the DSM, all of which have biological origins? Everyone of these illnesses creates mental distortions. Everyone of these illnesses carries with it a stigmatic undertone. If a person with one of these illnesses claims to be Napoleon then s/he is advised to go on their meds and seek treatment. Yet we have homosexuals and trans who can make ridiculous claims of legitimacy for their illusions of abnormality.

Further if homosexuality isn't a choice then how does one explain bi-sexuals. and how does one explain a Bruce Jenner or a Bradley Manning?

My intent concerning this thread was not homosexuality;albeit the subject matter does encompass it.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings. Live and let live but the issue has taken an ugly term and being foisted on Americans, a majority of whom disagree and these same people will not speak up because the left invented a word called "homophobic"

My intent, my concern is the adverse implications, pointing out that what is happening to males in this nation is an abomination. The feminizing/girlification of the male has moved now to the Boy Scouts of America. How can you call it the [B]oy Scouts when girls are now admitted. Again the elimination of gender surfaces. so now we have only Scouts.

This society has been committing a major faux pas for a number of generations now by not allowing boys to be boys and it will have serious consequences on our society and the social justice warriors won't be satisfied until they eliminate any reference to sex, race, religion from this nation.

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[Don Baldwin]

Well to be honest with you, when in kindergarten my parents were called to my school because of a distraction. what was I doing that distracted the class. Kissing girls. I knew I liked it but I didn't know why :D My parents did admonish my behavior but with a look of approval

So let me ask if homosexuality is not a choice but a biological event then why was it removed from the DSM in 1987? Why for example is OCD, bi-polar, schizophrenia, etc listed as mental disorders in the DSM, all of which have biological origins? Everyone of these illnesses creates mental distortions. Everyone of these illnesses carries with it a stigmatic undertone. If a person with one of these illnesses claims to be Napoleon then s/he is advised to go on their meds and seek treatment. Yet we have homosexuals and trans who can make ridiculous claims of legitimacy for their illusions of abnormality.

Further if homosexuality isn't a choice then how does one explain bi-sexuals. and how does one explain a Bruce Jenner or a Bradley Manning?

My intent concerning this thread was not homosexuality;albeit the subject matter does encompass it.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings. Live and let live but the issue has taken an ugly term and being foisted on Americans, a majority of whom disagree and these same people will not speak up because the left invented a word called "homophobic"

My intent, my concern is the adverse implications, pointing out that what is happening to males in this nation is an abomination. The feminizing/girlification of the male has moved now to the Boy Scouts of America. How can you call it the oy Scouts when girls are now admitted. Again the elimination of gender surfaces. so now we have only Scouts.

[B]This society has been committing a major faux pas for a number of generations now by not allowing boys to be boys and it will have serious consequences on our society and the social justice warriors won't be satisfied until they eliminate any reference to sex, race, religion from this nation.

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It was removed for purely political reasons.

Gays don't want ANY stigma. They want to be embraced.

For political reasons. How else can we condone a man shoving his pen!s in another mans ass because he "loves" him? How sick is that? Pretty sick.

Ah...bi-sexuals...my personal opinion is they are men who have trouble getting women...so they'll accept a homosexual encounter when they're really horny. Bi women...I'd guess they're gay but submissive and will allow a man to take her...but loves women.

The left invented the word racist too. It SHOULD be "speciesist".

"Maleness" is bad. THAT is what is being taught. You think WHITE males were too aggressive? You just wait until the minority males take over. In 30 years...white men will only be 10% of the population.

We are committing national and species/race suicide. We WILL be bred out in 30 years and NONE of this will matter. America will be no more..."our" culture will be no more. Women will be treated like property again. Don't believe me? Visit the border towns...

[ColdNoMore]

Well to be honest with you, when in kindergarten my parents were called to my school because of a distraction. what was I doing that distracted the class. Kissing girls. I knew I liked it but I didn't know why My parents did admonish my behavior but with a look of approval

Which is exactly how gays feel.




So let me ask if homosexuality is not a choice but a biological event then why was it removed from the DSM in 1987? Why for example is OCD, bi-polar, schizophrenia, etc listed as mental disorders in the DSM, all of which have biological origins? Everyone of these illnesses creates mental distortions. Everyone of these illnesses carries with it a stigmatic undertone. If a person with one of these illnesses claims to be Napoleon then s/he is advised to go on their meds and seek treatment. Yet we have homosexuals and trans who can make ridiculous claims of legitimacy for their illusions of abnormality.

Further if homosexuality isn't a choice then how does one explain bi-sexuals. and how does one explain a Bruce Jenner or a Bradley Manning?

My intent concerning this thread was not homosexuality;albeit the subject matter does encompass it.

I do not want to hurt anyone's feelings. Live and let live but the issue has taken an ugly term and being foisted on Americans, a majority of whom disagree and these same people will not speak up because the left invented a word called "homophobic"

My intent, my concern is the adverse implications, pointing out that what is happening to males in this nation is an abomination. The feminizing/girlification of the male has moved now to the Boy Scouts of America. How can you call it the Boy Scouts when girls are now admitted. Again the elimination of gender surfaces. so now we have only Scouts.

This society has been committing a major faux pas for a number of generations now by not allowing boys to be boys and it will have serious consequences on our society and the social justice warriors won't be satisfied until they eliminate any reference to sex, race, religion from this nation.

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Because it never should have been there in the first place. :oops:

Only bigoted, ignorant people like yourself put gays on that list to begin with, but I don't hold much hope that you're intelligent enough...to understand something even that simple.

By the way, despicable and ignorant people like yourself and those who thought gays were mentally disabled, also once claimed a black person...was only worth 3/5ths of a white.

Then again, I'll bet you still think that too. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

[Don Baldwin]

Which is exactly how gays feel.






Because it never should have been there in the first place. :oops:

Only bigoted, ignorant people like yourself put gays on that list to begin with, but I don't hold much hope that you're intelligent enough...to understand something even that simple.

By the way, despicable and ignorant people like yourself and those who thought gays were mentally disabled, also once claimed a black person...was only worth 3/5ths of a white.

Then again, I'll bet you still think that too. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

Let me get this straight...homosexuality NEVER should have been on the list and it's PERFECTLY normal for one man to show "love" for another man...by sticking his pen!s in the other mans ass?

Gays are mentally DEFECTIVE...a birth defect. They can't help it...but neither can a pedophile.

SLAVES were counted for Congressional representation as 3/5ths because there were so many of them in the south...they didn't vote...and they CERTAINLY weren't considered people...as they shouldn't now. The BEST thing we could do is sent them all to Africa. Today...blacks as a people have NO value.

[Wiotte]

Let me get this straight...homosexuality NEVER should have been on the list and it's PERFECTLY normal for one man to show "love" for another man...by sticking his pen!s in the other mans ass?

Gays are mentally DEFECTIVE...a birth defect. They can't help it...but neither can a pedophile.

SLAVES were counted for Congressional representation as 3/5ths because there were so many of them in the south...they didn't vote...and they CERTAINLY weren't considered people...as they shouldn't now. The BEST thing we could do is sent them all to Africa. Today...blacks as a people have NO value.



Not exactly the best Segway. Homo’s to blacks.


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[rubicon]

Which is exactly how gays feel.






Because it never should have been there in the first place. :oops:

Only bigoted, ignorant people like yourself put gays on that list to begin with, but I don't hold much hope that you're intelligent enough...to understand something even that simple.

By the way, despicable and ignorant people like yourself and those who thought gays were mentally disabled, also once claimed a black person...was only worth 3/5ths of a white.

Then again, I'll bet you still think that too. :ohdear:



Deepest Sincere Wishes: :wave:

I understand that homosexuals believe they are acting instinctively but so do schizophrenics. And of course you did the predictable progressive non sequitur prank of calling me a bigot. I am surprised you didn't include homophobic. Well that Alinsky tactic is so old its completely ineffective.

Again my only concern is the feminization of males.

Today there is an aggressive progressive move and a demand by the homosexual community not only to accept but to submit to their belief that homosexuality is normal and only an alternative choice lifestyle.

Included that effort is a push by progressive to indoctrinate our young, children, whom I believe should be treated as a protected species.

We all agree that young men and women have successfully been indoctrinated in the radical Islamic cause up to and including suicide.

Yet we allow our educational institutes to brainwash fragile and young minds on the issue of homosexuality .
We are doing great harm to our future.

Fortunately I do not have any children in school nor do I have grandchildren. And given the state of this nation I am beginning to believe that it is for the best that I have no grand children. My branch of our family tree ends with my children and I feel some relieve. and I expect give your propensity for sarcasm you will readily agree with glee

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[graciegirl]

I understand that homosexuals believe they are acting instinctively but so do schizophrenics. And of course you did the predictable progressive non sequitur prank of calling me a bigot. I am surprised you didn't include homophobic. Well that Alinsky tactic is so old its completely ineffective.

Again my only concern is the feminization of males.

Today there is an aggressive progressive move and a demand by the homosexual community not only to accept but to submit to their belief that homosexuality is normal and only an alternative choice lifestyle.

Included that effort is a push by progressive to indoctrinate our young, children, whom I believe should be treated as a protected species.

We all agree that young men and women have successfully been indoctrinated in the radical Islamic cause up to and including suicide.

Yet we allow our educational institutes to brainwash fragile and young minds on the issue of homosexuality .
We are doing great harm to our future.

Fortunately I do not have any children in school nor do I have grandchildren. And given the state of this nation I am beginning to believe that it is for the best that I have no grand children. My branch of our family tree ends with my children and I feel some relieve. and I expect give your propensity for sarcasm you will readily agree with glee

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I think it will soon be proven that people who are truly and completely and always attracted to the same sex are born that way. I don't think anyone can deprogram them anymore than I think anyone can influence someone to shift their sexual orientation. I realize this post was not directed at me, and I also realize I can't change your mind. There are a few things I disagree with you about and this is one of them.

I see not one reason why kindergartners need to have any formal education on gender. Most humans are just simply male or female. Children that young are just beginning to understand life in general and gender conflict is rare and is a very complicated thing to understand even for adults.

I have met a good many gay men who acted feminine and a number of gay women who acted masculine and many are my friends. I have never met personally anyone who was one sex and felt they were the other. I have met a lot of people in my life.

The Catholic Church and The Lutheran Church both part of my life as a child and an adult have never offered any teachings of condemnation for homosexuality as some very conservative Christian sects do. I don't agree with them and see no evidence in sacred scripture of anything that could be construed as condemnation by God.

It must be very hard to be gay. I don't think anyone would choose to be in a minority so unkindly treated and sometimes so difficult to understand for people who are heterosexual.

[billethkid]

What role does the intent of procreation play in the minds of those who profess "studying" homosexuality.

There remains one fact of life; requiring a male and a female to procreate. In my opinion anything beyond the male/female intent is rationalization and preference by choice.

[Taltarzac725]

What role does the intent of procreation play in the minds of those who profess "studying" homosexuality.

There remains one fact of life; requiring a male and a female to procreate. In my opinion anything beyond the male/female intent is rationalization and preference by choice.

Almost all the sex in the Villages has nothing to do with procreation. It would be a huge surprise to those doing it if it did.

[billethkid]

Some things are givens, however that was not my point/query?

[Don Baldwin]

What role does the intent of procreation play in the minds of those who profess "studying" homosexuality.

There remains one fact of life; requiring a male and a female to procreate. In my opinion anything beyond the male/female intent is rationalization and preference by choice.

Almost all the sex in the Villages has nothing to do with procreation. It would be a huge surprise to those doing it if it did.

"Procreation" has EVERYTHING to do with it...we're born with the NEED to procreate. Most of the things we do in our lives are related to procreation. The "need" to procreate lives on LONG after the ability has waned.

That is WHY people like pedophiles and necrophiliacs CAN'T help what they do. They are compelled to "procreate" but in a mentally ill, twisted way. As would a true schizophrenic, interact with the world in a mentally ill, twisted way. Mental illness...true mental illness IS in my opinion always organic in nature...something isn't working right. They CAN'T help what they do. But it doesn't mean we condone or allow it.

[rubicon]

I think it will soon be proven that people who are truly and completely and always attracted to the same sex are born that way. I don't think anyone can deprogram them anymore than I think anyone can influence someone to shift their sexual orientation. I realize this post was not directed at me, and I also realize I can't change your mind. There are a few things I disagree with you about and this is one of them.

I see not one reason why kindergartners need to have any formal education on gender. Most humans are just simply male or female. Children that young are just beginning to understand life in general and gender conflict is rare and is a very complicated thing to understand even for adults.

I have met a good many gay men who acted feminine and a number of gay women who acted masculine and many are my friends. I have never met personally anyone who was one sex and felt they were the other. I have met a lot of people in my life.

The Catholic Church and The Lutheran Church both part of my life as a child and an adult have never offered any teachings of condemnation for homosexuality as some very conservative Christian sects do. I don't agree with them and see no evidence in sacred scripture of anything that could be construed as condemnation by God.

It must be very hard to be gay. I don't think anyone would choose to be in a minority so unkindly treated and sometimes so difficult to understand for people who are heterosexual.

Again my intent was not directed at the homosexual issue per se but only in how that issue encompasses the bigger concern. This is a discussion more of belief and acceptance and not one of a personal attack on anyone person or group.

I do not approach this subject matter ignoring humanity nor compassion for others. I recognize what despair and depression can do to people's lives. I believe [e]very human life has value both unborn and born.

For the benefit of those skeptic detractors of mine, I happen to have a cousin, the spitting image of Tom Selleck who is gay. It has been a don't ask, don't tell, don't pry relationship. We are a close family and a welcoming family.

I have met gay people here such as on the golf course, etc and responded in the same manner as any new introduction.

The cause of homosexuality I will leave to the professionals to sort out.

Unfortunately there is a radical element in this nation, post-modernist who rail against anything and everything of traditional value and their intent is clear. By eliminating any reference to sex, race, etc they desire to shape shift a utopia where all people are equal. That's why this nation moved to trophy kids. That is why kids today are so easily offended and seek safe spaces

It is especially disconcerting to me to witness the feminization/girlification of males. it is an affront to nature /evolution And it will eventually and adversely affect this nation.

Our generation 's parents made us aware of just how unfair life can be. when I told my Dad "that's not fair" his response was go look at your birth certificate and show me where it says you are guaranteed fairness.

Again the assault by educators is a travesty. Educators
have a responsibility of building a child's skill set to the best of their ability and to help them cope and adjust to the world around them. it is not to indoctrinate them about politics, sex education or religion those duties belong to their parents.

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