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mellincf
10-15-2017, 08:35 PM
The reason we can expect Trump's war on happy holidays is simple. Like with the NFL controversy, it's part of Trump's twofold strategy. First, it plays to his base. With the NFL debate, Trump framed it as an issue of patriotism and respect for our flag and armed forces. That plays well with his right-wing base the same way demanding everyone say "Merry Christmas" will play well with his conservative Christian base.
Second, these issues distract from Trump's failed record of legislative accomplishments. There has been no Affordable Care Act repeal as Trump promised (though his recent executive orders have certainly undermined it). There has been no comprehensive tax reform yet. There is no shiny new wall along the Mexican border. And the list goes on.
So, come this December, don't expect a politics-free holiday season. Prepare for divisive and ugly partisan divides in stores across America. After all, in Trump's America, why should we expect the holidays to be any different than the rest of the year?

-Dean Obeidallah, a former attorney, is the host of SiriusXM radio's daily program "The Dean Obeidallah Show" and a columnist for The Daily Beast.

graciegirl
10-15-2017, 09:23 PM
The reason we can expect Trump's war on happy holidays is simple. Like with the NFL controversy, it's part of Trump's twofold strategy. First, it plays to his base. With the NFL debate, Trump framed it as an issue of patriotism and respect for our flag and armed forces. That plays well with his right-wing base the same way demanding everyone say "Merry Christmas" will play well with his conservative Christian base.
Second, these issues distract from Trump's failed record of legislative accomplishments. There has been no Affordable Care Act repeal as Trump promised (though his recent executive orders have certainly undermined it). There has been no comprehensive tax reform yet. There is no shiny new wall along the Mexican border. And the list goes on.
So, come this December, don't expect a politics-free holiday season. Prepare for divisive and ugly partisan divides in stores across America. After all, in Trump's America, why should we expect the holidays to be any different than the rest of the year?

-Dean Obeidallah, a former attorney, is the host of SiriusXM radio's daily program "The Dean Obeidallah Show" and a columnist for The Daily Beast.

I am not sure that I am a conservative Christian, I certainly don't attend Mass enough to be a good example. I do love Christmas. I like whatever Holiday folks are celebrating around that time. It is a happy family time for most of us.

I have always been annoyed at being told it "wasn't nice to say Merry Christmas". I didn't mean for it to be un-nice. I am only spreading my cheer.

Merry Christmas Melon. A bit early. I am one who doesn't mind seeing decorated Christmas Trees way early.

billethkid
10-15-2017, 09:28 PM
We just ignore all the pseudo righteous pretense of following a made up doctrine of not offending anybody.

We do and say what we have done all our lives and what is tradition in our families. When someone says happy holiday to me I just tell them where I come from we say Merry Christmas.

And it most certainly does not have, never had and never will have one thing to do with who sits in the WH.

Wiotte
10-15-2017, 09:55 PM
Merry Christmas ! A bit early, but what the hell


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Taltarzac725
10-16-2017, 12:23 PM
Merry Christmas ! A bit early, but what the hell


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They will probably have the Christmas decorations out in the stores soon.


Rump's highlighting the Merry Christmas saying--
That seems to violate the US Constitution with respect to just supporting Christians while ignoring the other belief systems.

rubicon
10-16-2017, 01:19 PM
The reason we can expect Trump's war on happy holidays is simple. Like with the NFL controversy, it's part of Trump's twofold strategy. First, it plays to his base. With the NFL debate, Trump framed it as an issue of patriotism and respect for our flag and armed forces. That plays well with his right-wing base the same way demanding everyone say "Merry Christmas" will play well with his conservative Christian base.
Second, these issues distract from Trump's failed record of legislative accomplishments. There has been no Affordable Care Act repeal as Trump promised (though his recent executive orders have certainly undermined it). There has been no comprehensive tax reform yet. There is no shiny new wall along the Mexican border. And the list goes on.
So, come this December, don't expect a politics-free holiday season. Prepare for divisive and ugly partisan divides in stores across America. After all, in Trump's America, why should we expect the holidays to be any different than the rest of the year?

-Dean Obeidallah, a former attorney, is the host of SiriusXM radio's daily program "The Dean Obeidallah Show" and a columnist for The Daily .


"Reductio ad absurdum" is the only manner in which to respond to these continuing Trump Derangement Syndrome tropes. Its maddening, no logic, no sense, conditional caterwauling every time Trump's name appears...And slowly he turns and step by step...:D

Personal Best Regards:

Jack9696
10-16-2017, 01:23 PM
They will probably have the Christmas decorations out in the stores soon.


Rump's highlighting the Merry Christmas saying--
That seems to violate the US Constitution with respect to just supporting Christians while ignoring the other belief systems.Trump saying merry Christmas is a constitutional violation?

graciegirl
10-16-2017, 01:53 PM
Trump saying merry Christmas is a constitutional violation?

God bless us, every one.

cologal
10-16-2017, 02:06 PM
God bless us, every one.

I liked this one, made me chuckle!

COPUFF.....

cologal
10-16-2017, 02:37 PM
Christmas can be a confusing time for me as my group of friends represent many different religons.

Of course I have Christian friends so I say Merry Christmas!
I also have Bhuddist and Hindu friends I wouldn't say Merry Christmas to them. Not that it would insult them, but I am a good friend I need to understand them.
I also have a friend that is Sufi, no Merry Christmas there.
And I have Jewish friends....

Things would be easier if 2 of these religions didn't have a MAJOR holiday at roughly the same time. It's odd that this happened or maybe not because Judism predates Christanity. Nor do we really know when Christ was born.

Once you get outside into the public you just don't know! At those times I say Happy Holidays because there are 2 Holidays being Celebrated.

When did this become an issue? I think I first saw it 2008ish. All of a sudden there was a War on Christmas! Seriously, how is saying Happy Hoidays a declaration of war?
Politicians play us like fiddles, both sides, the create an issue to get us to donate or out to vote!

In my house there is a Bhuddist and a recovering Catholic we celebrate Christmas!

COPUFF

Don Baldwin
10-16-2017, 03:25 PM
Christmas can be a confusing time for me as my group of friends represent many different religons.

Of course I have Christian friends so I say Merry Christmas!
I also have Bhuddist and Hindu friends I wouldn't say Merry Christmas to them. Not that it would insult them, but I am a good friend I need to understand them.
I also have a friend that is Sufi, no Merry Christmas there.
And I have Jewish friends....

Things would be easier if 2 of these religions didn't have a MAJOR holiday at roughly the same time. It's odd that this happened or maybe not because Judism predates Christanity. Nor do we really know when Christ was born.

Once you get outside into the public you just don't know! At those times I say Happy Holidays because there are 2 Holidays being Celebrated.

When did this become an issue? I think I first saw it 2008ish. All of a sudden there was a War on Christmas! Seriously, how is saying Happy Hoidays a declaration of war?
Politicians play us like fiddles, both sides, the create an issue to get us to donate or out to vote!

In my house there is a Bhuddist and a recovering Catholic we celebrate Christmas!

COPUFF

Most of your friends are naive?

OMG...the dilemma you're put in!!! What to do...what to do...so you don't OFFEND anyone!

Politicians...AND the religious leaders. They ALL play us...well you...and take their cut...the customary 10% tithe.

mellincf
10-16-2017, 05:02 PM
Christmas can be a confusing time for me as my group of friends represent many different religons.

Of course I have Christian friends so I say Merry Christmas!
I also have Bhuddist and Hindu friends I wouldn't say Merry Christmas to them. Not that it would insult them, but I am a good friend I need to understand them.
I also have a friend that is Sufi, no Merry Christmas there.
And I have Jewish friends....

Things would be easier if 2 of these religions didn't have a MAJOR holiday at roughly the same time. It's odd that this happened or maybe not because Judism predates Christanity. Nor do we really know when Christ was born.

Once you get outside into the public you just don't know! At those times I say Happy Holidays because there are 2 Holidays being Celebrated.

When did this become an issue? I think I first saw it 2008ish. All of a sudden there was a War on Christmas! Seriously, how is saying Happy Hoidays a declaration of war?
Politicians play us like fiddles, both sides, the create an issue to get us to donate or out to vote!

In my house there is a Bhuddist and a recovering Catholic we celebrate Christmas!

COPUFF

Oh, Fox and the televangelists started it. They have to have a "war" on everything because the authoritarians crave fear. Mexicans, Muslims, immigrants, Sharia Law, gays, transgenders, bathrooms, Jade Helm, Starbucks cups, Target, Kathy what's her name with the Trump head meme, gun control, kneeling on the football field -everything has to get their dander up or they would lose voters and schmucks.

cologal
10-16-2017, 07:41 PM
Oh, Fox and the televangelists started it. They have to have a "war" on everything because the authoritarians crave fear. Mexicans, Muslims, immigrants, Sharia Law, gays, transgenders, bathrooms, Jade Helm, Starbucks cups, Target, Kathy what's her name with the Trump head meme, gun control, kneeling on the football field -everything has to get their dander up or they would lose voters and schmucks.

I think you must have read another post! I said absolutely nothing about Faux News. I said, politicians:

ON BOTH SIDES PLAY US LIKE FIDDLES..

COPUFF

Don Baldwin
10-16-2017, 08:56 PM
Oh, Fox and the televangelists started it. They have to have a "war" on everything because the authoritarians crave fear. Mexicans, Muslims, immigrants, Sharia Law, gays, transgenders, bathrooms, Jade Helm, Starbucks cups, Target, Kathy what's her name with the Trump head meme, gun control, kneeling on the football field -everything has to get their dander up or they would lose voters and schmucks.

I'd like to get rid of just about everything on that list...

You DO realize that whites have gone from 90% of the population to 49% and it'll be 20% in 30 years.

WHAT do you think "America" will look like with a population of 80% minorities?

I think you must have read another post! I said absolutely nothing about Faux News. I said, politicians:

ON BOTH SIDES PLAY US LIKE FIDDLES..

COPUFF

So then...WHY do you vote for them? The Ds and Rs? You KNOW they're playing you...and you vote for them anyway? WHY? Why would a person choose someone he KNOWS is out to rip him off?

Wiotte
10-16-2017, 09:35 PM
Bah humbug !


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TexaninVA
10-16-2017, 11:23 PM
The reason we can expect Trump's war on happy holidays is simple. Like with the NFL controversy, it's part of Trump's twofold strategy. First, it plays to his base. With the NFL debate, Trump framed it as an issue of patriotism and respect for our flag and armed forces. That plays well with his right-wing base the same way demanding everyone say "Merry Christmas" will play well with his conservative Christian base.
Second, these issues distract from Trump's failed record of legislative accomplishments. There has been no Affordable Care Act repeal as Trump promised (though his recent executive orders have certainly undermined it). There has been no comprehensive tax reform yet. There is no shiny new wall along the Mexican border. And the list goes on.
So, come this December, don't expect a politics-free holiday season. Prepare for divisive and ugly partisan divides in stores across America. After all, in Trump's America, why should we expect the holidays to be any different than the rest of the year?

-Dean Obeidallah, a former attorney, is the host of SiriusXM radio's daily program "The Dean Obeidallah Show" and a columnist for The Daily Beast.

Merry Christmas to you in the meantime

MDLNB
10-17-2017, 04:25 AM
I've been saying "Merry Christmas" way before I even knew who Trump was and he certainly had no effect on me saying it now. Liberal PC has caused people to think that they were offending someone by giving that greeting during the Season. It does not offend anyone that I have ever met, and if it does it was not meant to. Kind of like what the NFL players say about not meaning to offend anyone with their lame protest about, what they don't even know. On the other hand, I have very close Jewish friends that give us the "Merry Christmas" greeting and we reciprocate by attempting to remember their religious holidays. When I was in the Middle East and the Far East, I gave them their religious holiday greetings out of courtesy, not out of belief in their faith. When someone says "Happy Holiday" to me, I respond with "Merry Christmas" not out of spite or meanness but to remind them of what the reason for celebration really is about, not a pretense to sell more products. I do not require anyone else to give me the same greeting, but I show them that it is OK for them to greet me in like manner if they wish to, without worrying about being PC. If my faith/belief offends someone, then that is their fault not mine. You do not have to believe but it is my Constitutional right to practice whatever religious belief I wish, FREELY. I also respect that right in others. I do not ever tell someone that they are wrong in their religious belief, regardless of how I feel. That is a personal thing and their right.

I do not believe in celebrating Halloween but it is a fun time for children and some adults, and I enjoy the festivities accompanying it. If that makes any sense. I do not decorate but enjoy how others go all out to decorate for it. Down South, they have something similar called Carnival. It's a lot of fun also.

So, when I greet you with "Merry Christmas" it is not an attempt to offend or an act of defiance. It is simply recognizing the celebration of Christ's birth. It may not be Christ's actual birthday, but it is the day dedicated to HIS birth that we celebrate once a year. Believe or do not believe, but until this country becomes an atheist dedicated communist country, you will continue to hear many still say "Merry Christmas."

“But whoever denies Me before men, I will also deny him before My Father who is in Heaven.” (Matt. 10:33)

dirtbanker
10-17-2017, 07:25 AM
Christmas can be a confusing time for me as my group of friends represent many different religons....

....In my house there is a Bhuddist and a recovering Catholic we celebrate Christmas!

COPUFF

Christmas can be a confusing time for a lot of people...if they are good friends they won't stress you out over religion.

I am picturing some long haired pot bellied guy smoking weed while you rub his belly for "luck".

Curious, how many stray pets have you "takin in" over the years??

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MDLNB
10-17-2017, 12:00 PM
Christmas can be a confusing time for a lot of people...if they are good friends they won't stress you out over religion.

I am picturing some long haired pot bellied guy smoking weed while you rub his belly for "luck".

Curious, how many stray pets have you "takin in" over the years??

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I believe you are only allowed two per house in the Villages, at one time. :doggie::doggie: