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Taltarzac725
10-18-2017, 09:52 AM
Trump lashes out at NFL for not asking players to stand for national anthem - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-lashes-nfl-players-stand-national-anthem/story?id=50557552)

Good someone who actually read the US Constitution and its First Amendment.

Jack9696
10-18-2017, 09:54 AM
Trump lashes out at NFL for not asking players to stand for national anthem - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-lashes-nfl-players-stand-national-anthem/story?id=50557552)

Good someone who actually read the US Constitution and its First Amendment.GREAT post.... Not. Too bad for you most everyone has you on ignore!

NFL stats way down for week 5!

MDLNB
10-18-2017, 10:33 AM
The First Amendment has nothing to do with this. Protesting on someone else's dollar is not covered by the First Amendment. The only thing that might save brain dead athletes is their union.

Jack9696
10-18-2017, 10:40 AM
Trump lashes out at NFL for not asking players to stand for national anthem - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/trump-lashes-nfl-players-stand-national-anthem/story?id=50557552)

Good someone who actually read the US Constitution and its First Amendment.Are you a lawyer? Cause it's clear to a moron that this is not a 1st amendment issue.

Ask an nfl player if he can call his coach or an nfl official an *******.

I guess you do not understand what a workplace is...

wjboyer1
10-18-2017, 07:11 PM
Are you a lawyer? Cause it's clear to a moron that this is not a 1st amendment issue.

What is the issue then, if it is not a 1st amendment issue guaranteeing the right to free speech in the USA?

Ask an nfl player if he can call his coach or an nfl official an *******.

Evidently you have not heard some of the unedited video and audio of players during games

I guess you do not understand what a workplace is...

I guess you don't understand what country this is, and its Constitution.

Much like Trump, you are the sam f***ing moron, as he.

Jack9696
10-18-2017, 07:15 PM
What is the issue then, if it is not a 1st amendment issue guaranteeing the right to free speech in the USA?



Evidently you have not heard some of the unedited video and audio of players during games



I guess you don't understand what country this is, and its Constitution.

Much like Trump, you are the sam f***ing moron, as he.Nothing you said makes Any sense. If a player mouths off to a coach or ref, they get fined, benched, penalized. If the team does not enforce respect for the flag, white men stop watching, it's simple. Too bad you are an idiot.

Free speech is not a work right you *******.

Look at the ratings, , way down 2017 after a down 2016, it's disastrous.

wjboyer1
10-18-2017, 07:52 PM
Nothing you said makes Any sense. If a player mouths off to a coach or ref, they get fined, benched, penalized. If the team does not enforce respect for the flag, white men stop watching, it's simple. Too bad you are an idiot.

Free speech is not a work right you *******.

Look at the ratings, , way down 2017 after a down 2016, it's disastrous.

So, the truth comes out...you are more interested in ratings than the Constitution.

Either you are a Trump clone, or a Russian hacker who tries to divide this country by making idiotic arguments that only MORONS believe.

Jack9696
10-18-2017, 07:57 PM
So, the truth comes out...you are more interested in ratings than the Constitution.

Either you are a Trump clone, or a Russian hacker who tries to divide this country by making idiotic arguments that only MORONS believe. Is that your comeback when you are dead wrong?

You should try to read your posts sober.

Why can't I find any of you 1000s of posts in the regular forum?

Are you conceding it's not a 1st amendment isdue?

wjboyer1
10-18-2017, 08:02 PM
Is that your comeback when you are dead wrong?

You should try to read your posts sober.

Why can't I find any of you 1000s of posts in the regular forum?

Are you conceding it's not a 1st amendment isdue?

Perhaps you should be sober to start any kind of debate.

Jack9696
10-18-2017, 08:05 PM
Perhaps you should be sober to start any kind of debate.Tell me about the 1st amendment again, you lost, admit it.

You have no clue to what your talking about. Are you even a villager?

1000's of posts and not one shared village comment???

Taltarzac725
10-18-2017, 09:01 PM
Donald John Trump is trying to dictate how a private employer-- the NFL-- treats its workers when they disrespect the Flag and National Anthem. He is the government. So, that is a First Amendment right of the NFL and its players.

This man is about as patriotic as the US Flag is orange. It is the US Constitution and the Rule of Law that makes this country great not some carnival barker of a President of the United States.

Jack9696
10-18-2017, 09:04 PM
Donald John Trump is trying to dictate how a private employer-- the NFL-- treats its workers when they disrespect the Flag and National Anthem. He is the government. So, that is a First Amendment right of the NFL and its players.

This man is about as patriotic as the US Flag is orange. It is the US Constitution and the Rule of Law that makes this country great not some carnival barker of a President of the United States.Did you go to school stupid? Or did you only come out that way?

rubicon
10-19-2017, 05:02 AM
Donald John Trump is trying to dictate how a private employer-- the NFL-- treats its workers when they disrespect the Flag and National Anthem. He is the government. So, that is a First Amendment right of the NFL and its players.

This man is about as patriotic as the US Flag is orange. It is the US Constitution and the Rule of Law that makes this country great not some carnival barker of a President of the United States.

So tell me, how exactly, is an opinion rendered an attempt to dictate?

And tell me, how exactly, should a private employer whose product is televised around the world respond?

And as a private employer, how exactly, should an employer respond to workers who disrupt their workplace respond?

And, will you please finally admit that your opinion on this subject has nothing to do with the NFL but it is to you only about Trump the man whom you hold only disdain and hence not an opinion based in logic and objectivity.

Personal Best Regards:

graciegirl
10-19-2017, 05:43 AM
Players have a right to protest. We all have a right to protest. We have First Amendment Rights. How they are doing it is at best disrespectful to this land and at the worst causing more disrespect to their cause and the players.

Most of us are angry and disgusted with these guys because during the National Anthem and the salute to the Flag is not the place and time to protest. They are mad at the country? I thought it was the police.

Well some of us are mad at the players and most of us think the police are not faultless but doing the best that they can under the circumstances.

Jack9696
10-19-2017, 06:18 AM
So tell me, how exactly, is an opinion rendered an attempt to dictate?

And tell me, how exactly, should a private employer whose product is televised around the world respond?

And as a private employer, how exactly, should an employer respond to workers who disrupt their workplace respond?

And, will you please finally admit that your opinion on this subject has nothing to do with the NFL but it is to you only about Trump the man whom you hold only disdain and hence not an opinion based in logic and objectivity.

Personal Best Regards:Sounds like someone on the brink of blocking that poster "it"

Don Baldwin
10-19-2017, 07:03 AM
Did you go to school stupid? Or did you only come out that way?

Most come out that way...they're more "naive" than stupid.

Players have a right to protest. We all have a right to protest. We have First Amendment Rights. How they are doing it is at best disrespectful to this land and at the worst causing more disrespect to their cause and the players.

Most of us are angry and disgusted with these guys because during the National Anthem and the salute to the Flag is not the place and time to protest. They are mad at the country? I thought it was the police.

Well some of us are mad at the players and most of us think the police are not faultless but doing the best that they can under the circumstances.

The circumstances being...having to deal with dangerous and violent wild minority animals all day/night long...everyday.

Taltarzac725
10-19-2017, 07:08 AM
Many people do not like what Donald John Trump is trying to do with the NFL. Donald Trump slam at NFL players' protests is immoral and un-American: Steinberg (https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/donald-trump-nfl-national-anthem-protests-steinberg/)

Donald Trump might think that he is the law, that his will dictates what Americans can say or do. He might consider his tweets edicts from on high, and that his values are our values because he says it’s so.

But he’s wrong.

We are a nation of laws, and those laws have evolved over many years, sparked by people more courageous than Donald Trump, finessed by legislators more diligent than Donald Trump, and weighed by judges far smarter than Donald Trump.

Take the NFL protest. The key to that situation is found, not in the president’s latest tweet but in the actions of a pair of schoolgirls during World War II.

Jack9696
10-19-2017, 07:18 AM
Many people do not like what Donald John Trump is trying to do with the NFL. Donald Trump slam at NFL players' protests is immoral and un-American: Steinberg (https://chicago.suntimes.com/columnists/donald-trump-nfl-national-anthem-protests-steinberg/)And many people have a job.

Rockyrd
10-19-2017, 01:02 PM
"GAINESVILLE, Fla.*— The president of the University of Florida said white supremacist*Richard B. Spencer wants the speech he will deliver Thursday to spark violence that will gain sympathy for the alternative right movement he represents.

Spencer and his supporters will thrive on any confrontation brought by anti-fascist protesters, warned university President Kent Fuchs. They hope to provoke the same violent clashes that broke out during an August rally in Charlottesville, Va., that left one woman dead.*

Now, for the first time in the history of our nation, very different racist groups are coming together under one person who speaks their language and their words and speaks their views on racism and white supremacy," Fuchs said. “They’re coming to campus with the intentions of confrontation and with the intention of having all of us repeat their view on the world."

Organizers for Spencer’s speech further complicated security arrangements by planning to wait until an hour and a half before the event to distribute tickets. Only people who look like alt-right supporters will be among the 700 people allowed inside the Phillips Center for the Performing Arts.*"


This is as reported in USA Today...unable to link at present.

Rockyrd
10-19-2017, 01:07 PM
From Reuters...


Spencer, who heads the National Policy Institute, a nationalist think tank, is scheduled to speak at 2:30 p.m. EDT (1830 GMT) at a campus performing arts center. The university said it did not invite him to speak, but was obligated by law to allow the event. It said it will spend more than $500,000 on security.

Florida college braces for protests over white nationalist's speech | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-protests/florida-college-braces-for-protests-over-white-nationalists-speech-idUSKBN1CO1BM)

Jack9696
10-19-2017, 01:09 PM
Do you have a point, and why in this thread?

Jack9696
10-19-2017, 01:12 PM
From Reuters...


Spencer, who heads the National Policy Institute, a nationalist think tank, is scheduled to speak at 2:30 p.m. EDT (1830 GMT) at a campus performing arts center. The university said it did not invite him to speak, but was obligated by law to allow the event. It said it will spend more than $500,000 on security.

Florida college braces for protests over white nationalist's speech | Reuters (https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-protests/florida-college-braces-for-protests-over-white-nationalists-speech-idUSKBN1CO1BM)Still pointless

Rockyrd
10-19-2017, 01:30 PM
Still pointless

I will certainly recall and repeat your thought next time your friends post anything about demonstration by anyone, and I thought all you supporters would have been there, at UF By now...

"As Donald Trump quickly became the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, Spencer and Bannon began to voice their support for him. Spencer later credited Trump with invigorating his nationalist movement and identified Trump as having views that dovetailed with those of the alt-right. Spencer has repeatedly noted that Trump never distanced himself from his alt-right"

How Richard Spencer became America's most infamous white nationalist - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-richard-spencer-university-of-florida-speech-2017-10)

Jack9696
10-19-2017, 01:32 PM
I will certainly recall and repeat your thought next time your friends post anything about demonstration by anyone, and I thought all you supporters would have been there, at UF By now...

"As Donald Trump quickly became the frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination in 2016, Spencer and Bannon began to voice their support for him. Spencer later credited Trump with invigorating his nationalist movement and identified Trump as having views that dovetailed with those of the alt-right. Spencer has repeatedly noted that Trump never distanced himself from his alt-right"

How Richard Spencer became America's most infamous white nationalist - Business Insider (http://www.businessinsider.com/who-is-richard-spencer-university-of-florida-speech-2017-10)Are you too stupid to start a thread on your pointless rant. This one is NFL

Rockyrd
10-19-2017, 01:37 PM
Are you too stupid to start a thread on your pointless rant. This one is NFL

According to Gracie Girl, Rubicon, BTK and a few others....stupid is their word at best implication

Did I mention to you that I could care less what trolls think of me. To be criticized as you have, is welcome instead of the obscenities, etc. and certainly, any issue brought up, you will certainly address.

Thanks for policing the forum, and your trolling is much appreciated.

If you are blind to the hypocrisy involved, that's on you and your lack.

Jack9696
10-19-2017, 01:39 PM
According to Gracie Girl, Rubicon, BTK and a few others....stupid is their word at best implication

Did I mention to you that I could care less what trolls think of me. To be criticized as you have, is welcome instead of the obscenities, etc. and certainly, any issue brought up, you will certainly address.

Thanks for policing the forum, and your trolling is much appreciated.

If you are blind to the hypocrisy involved, that's on you and your lack.Are you Tal? Serious, you are a f ucking a$$hole