Most believe news media fabricates stories about President

[MDLNB]

Poll: 46 percent think media make up stories about Trump - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/18/trump-media-fake-news-poll-243884)

"Nearly half of voters, 46 percent, believe the news media fabricate news stories about President Donald Trump and his administration, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll. Just 37 percent of voters think the media do not fabricate stories, the poll shows, while the remaining 17 percent are undecided."

[Bog99]

Poll: 46 percent think media make up stories about Trump - POLITICO (http://www.politico.com/story/2017/10/18/trump-media-fake-news-poll-243884)

"Nearly half of voters, 46 percent, believe the news media fabricate news stories about President Donald Trump and his administration, according to a new POLITICO/Morning Consult poll. Just 37 percent of voters think the media do not fabricate stories, the poll shows, while the remaining 17 percent are undecided."

The Fake News Media are organs of Femo-Fascism.


A long time ago, it was coffee-clotch women who read the New York Times with their giant full-page fashion ads.

Women make 80% of the purchasing decisions, hence the Fake/Femo-Fascist news media.

One solution:

https://www.talkofthevillages.com/forums/villages-florida-political-talk-88/how-rid-senate-femo-fascist-idiots-247586/

[rubicon]

Back in the day sage advice was "believe half of what you read and nothing of what you hear".

In today's hyper-political partisan and technologically advanced environment the Fourth Estate coupled with Silicon Valley can and does manipulate the news to a degree that our previous mortal enemies would have envied.

So we should not believe anything we read or hear without a continuing verification of the facts and an understanding of the integrity of the journalist and/or news agency

In addition this same technology has dumbed us all down.

For instance if one is honest with himself/herself the fact that we google or wikipedia something and present it causes us to actually believe since we found it we produced it. And the irony is that the search information maybe flawed or perhaps an actual lie.

So I am not surprised that the % of people who believe isn't higher;albeit it it should be. What it means is that too many of us are being duped

Personal Best Regards:

[Don Baldwin]

Back in the day sage advice was "believe half of what you read and nothing of what you hear".

In today's hyper-political partisan and technologically advanced environment the Fourth Estate coupled with Silicon Valley can and does manipulate the news to a degree that our previous mortal enemies would have envied.

So we should not believe anything we read or hear without a continuing verification of the facts and an understanding of the integrity of the journalist and/or news agency

In addition this same technology has dumbed us all down.

For instance if one is honest with himself/herself the fact that we google or wikipedia something and present it causes us to actually believe since we found it we produced it. And the irony is that the search information maybe flawed or perhaps an actual lie.

So I am not surprised that the % of people who believe isn't higher;albeit it it should be. What it means is that too many of us are being duped

Personal Best Regards:

Many times it IS a lie. That is WHY I'm always telling people who don't believe me...go down and see for yourself! Go to MLK Blvd and SEE what these "people" are like...see how the 99% act and live. Visit a black school...SEE how futile "educating" them is. People in the past KNEW blacks were different...weren't "us".

[Rockyrd]

Back in the day sage advice was "believe half of what you read and nothing of what you hear".

In today's hyper-political partisan and technologically advanced environment the Fourth Estate coupled with Silicon Valley can and does manipulate the news to a degree that our previous mortal enemies would have envied.

So we should not believe anything we read or hear without a continuing verification of the facts and an understanding of the integrity of the journalist and/or news agency

In addition this same technology has dumbed us all down.

For instance if one is honest with himself/herself the fact that we google or wikipedia something and present it causes us to actually believe since we found it we produced it. And the irony is that the search information maybe flawed or perhaps an actual lie.

So I am not surprised that the % of people who believe isn't higher;albeit it it should be. What it means is that too many of us are being duped

Personal Best Regards:

Again, provide ONE MANUFACTURED NEWS STORY.

[Rockyrd]

Speaking of untruths...you never are able to supple even ONE example. Would you like the litany of your President and his lies ?


"Trump is no Hitler, but the way he has manipulated the American people with outrageous lies, stacked one on top of the other, has an eerie historical resonance. Demagogy has a fixed design."

Trump Isn’t Hitler. But the Lying … - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/opinion/trump-isnt-hitler-but-the-lying.html)

I quoted that line of this opinion piece because Fox News is saying the New York Times called Trump Hitler and of course that was a lie

[Taltarzac725]

Speaking of untruths...you never are able to supple even ONE example. Would you like the litany of your President and his lies ?


"Trump is no Hitler, but the way he has manipulated the American people with outrageous lies, stacked one on top of the other, has an eerie historical resonance. Demagogy has a fixed design."

Trump Isn’t Hitler. But the Lying … - The New York Times (https://www.nytimes.com/2017/10/19/opinion/trump-isnt-hitler-but-the-lying.html)

I quoted that line of this opinion piece because Fox News is saying the New York Times called Trump Hitler and of course that was a lie

Trump is quite good with propaganda and manipulating the masses.

[Rockyrd]

Trump is quite good with propaganda and manipulating the masses.

He began the incident on calls to grieving families with a total lie, and he just keeps feeding the issue. This man is incredibly anti American.

With the help of Hannity and Fox, the move now is to simply forget what started all this...it never happened.

[mellincf]

He began the incident on calls to grieving families with a total lie, and he just keeps feeding the issue. This man is incredibly anti American.

With the help of Hannity and Fox, the move now is to simply forget what started all this...it never happened. Fox viewers are routinely the least informed of all. I doubt Fox covered much of Bush's speech if they mentioned it at all. Yet all the other media covered it extensively.

"FAKER! Man admits he lied to Fox News about Navy SEAL service." That's the headline from the Navy Times. Earlier this month Fox's newscasts repeatedly aired a segment about a "decorated war hero" who "hopes to honor Trump with glass presidential seal." Fox reporters and anchors said they hoped Trump would see the segment. "But when Navy Times contacted" John Garofalo on Thursday, "Garofalo admitted he had lied and never served in Vietnam, never received a Purple Heart and was never a SEAL."

-- "Fox News not withdrawing that story has drove me nutty," a retired SEAL told the Navy Times...

[graciegirl]

Fox viewers are routinely the least informed of all. I doubt Fox covered much of Bush's speech if they mentioned it at all. Yet all the other media covered it extensively.

"FAKER! Man admits he lied to Fox News about Navy SEAL service." That's the headline from the Navy Times. Earlier this month Fox's newscasts repeatedly aired a segment about a "decorated war hero" who "hopes to honor Trump with glass presidential seal." Fox reporters and anchors said they hoped Trump would see the segment. "But when Navy Times contacted" John Garofalo on Thursday, "Garofalo admitted he had lied and never served in Vietnam, never received a Purple Heart and was never a SEAL."

-- "Fox News not withdrawing that story has drove me nutty," a retired SEAL told the Navy Times...

Link, not copy. Link, not copy. Your sourcing has already been proven unreliable. You need to watch Fox News from time to time and CNN and MSNBC. They aren't all pure as the driven snow, but they are all we have. Read Guardian, Reuters, APwire, Vox, Not perfect, and still many opinions but regarded higher than your smarmy sources.

[Rockyrd]

Link, not copy. Link, not copy. Your sourcing has already been proven unreliable. You need to watch Fox News from time to time and CNN and MSNBC. They aren't all pure as the driven snow, but they are all we have. Read Guardian, Reuters, APwire, Vox, Not perfect, and still many opinions but regarded higher than your smarmy sources.

What source are you speaking of that is unreliable.

You are exactly like Rubicon.....simply throw stones with generalities but feel no obligation to supply anything but your accusations.

I supply links for 99% of what I post as do others, but you two insist on calling everyone liars, while never able to sustain that claim or accusation.

Why do you feel you and Rubicon can get away with simply accusing people of things ?

CALLING THE NY TIMES "SWARMY" somehow does not sound right. And the NAVY Times unreliable ??

[Taltarzac725]

What source are you speaking of that is unreliable.

You are exactly like Rubicon.....simply throw stones with generalities but feel no obligation to supply anything but your accusations.

I supply links for 99% of what I post as do others, but you two insist on calling everyone liars, while never able to sustain that claim or accusation.

Why do you feel you and Rubicon can get away with simply accusing people of things ?

CALLING THE NY TIMES "SWARMY" somehow does not sound right

There are many control freaks on the Political Forum who do not seem to want people to actually think. All they do is make personal attacks and gang up on people.

[Rockyrd]

There are many control freaks on the Political Forum who do not seem to want people to actually think.

Gracie and Rubicon seem able to attack anyone who threatens to talk about their hero.....not the country so much, but only this one single man

[Rockyrd]

"“Bigotry seems emboldened. Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication,” Bush warned in remarks at the Bush Institute’s Spirit of Liberty event in New York, Politico reported."

“And our young people need positive role models. Bullying and prejudice in our public life sets a national tone, provides permission for cruelty and bigotry, and compromises the moral education of children,” he added.

“The only way to pass along civic values is to first live up to them.”

Bush takes veiled swipe at Trump: ‘Bigotry seems emboldened’ | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2017/10/19/bush-on-trumps-presidency-bigotry-seems-emboldened/)

Those words from George Bush ring so true, and these people who falsely claim they love this land simply ignore and blame everyone else. They claim the media lies but cannot prove it....they lie and wont admit it.

Love of man over country

[graciegirl]

There are many control freaks on the Political Forum who do not seem to want people to actually think. All they do is make personal attacks and gang up on people.

The person you quoted. (I have him on ignore) has the tendency only to register part of any post. His main obsession these days is lies told by Donald Trump. He would be more effective in debate, if he were less emotional, and less wordy. He is a very fragile person, and I wish that he would find something outside this forum to divert him and make him happy. He isn't very happy these days at all.

I used to admire him, and know that he still has many good qualities. Most of us have allowed ourselves to not trust the good instincts we have and to remember that this too will pass. We aren't alone in guarding the universe.

[Jack9696]

The person you quoted. (I have him on ignore) has the tendency only to register part of any post. His main obsession these days is lies told by Donald Trump. He would be more effective in debate, if he were less emotional, and less wordy. He is a very fragile person, and I wish that he would find something outside this forum to divert him and make him happy. He isn't very happy these days at all.

I used to admire him, and know that he still has many good qualities. Most of us have allowed ourselves to not trust the good instincts we have and to remember that this too will pass. We aren't alone in guarding the universe.

Have you met him which would somewhat qualify you to speak about his good qualities?

What are those qualities? So far all I see are bad anymore.

[Taltarzac725]

"“Bigotry seems emboldened. Our politics seems more vulnerable to conspiracy theories and outright fabrication,” Bush warned in remarks at the Bush Institute’s Spirit of Liberty event in New York, Politico reported."

“And our young people need positive role models. Bullying and prejudice in our public life sets a national tone, provides permission for cruelty and bigotry, and compromises the moral education of children,” he added.

“The only way to pass along civic values is to first live up to them.”

Bush takes veiled swipe at Trump: ‘Bigotry seems emboldened’ | New York Post (http://nypost.com/2017/10/19/bush-on-trumps-presidency-bigotry-seems-emboldened/)

Those words from George Bush ring so true, and these people who falsely claim they love this land simply ignore and blame everyone else. They claim the media lies but cannot prove it....they lie and wont admit it.

Love of man over country

It is scary how decency, wisdom, and kindness seemed to have left the building in a matter of speaking with the rise of Donald John Trump. And remember that Hillary Clinton got almost three million votes more than Donald John Trump.

[graciegirl]

Have you met him which would somewhat qualify you to speak about his good qualities?

What are those qualities? So far all I see are bad anymore.

I gave up on YOU yesterday. Hit the road, Jack.

Go Bucks.

[Jack9696]

I gave up on YOU yesterday. Hit the road, Jack.

Go Bucks.So you never met the guy, know he is crazy, yet allow him on your Facebook.

Sorry if I made you go back and remove your bad use of anymore posts.

[Rockyrd]

The person you quoted. (I have him on ignore) has the tendency only to register part of any post. His main obsession these days is lies told by Donald Trump. He would be more effective in debate, if he were less emotional, and less wordy. He is a very fragile person, and I wish that he would find something outside this forum to divert him and make him happy. He isn't very happy these days at all.

I used to admire him, and know that he still has many good qualities. Most of us have allowed ourselves to not trust the good instincts we have and to remember that this too will pass. We aren't alone in guarding the universe.

Since I am on ignore this is sort of just a general response.

Yep, I often cut and paste part of an article, BUT ALWAYS AND EVERY TIME give a link for folks to read. IF they do not choose to read it, then the assumption must be they do not care about the subject.

I have been criticized by Gracie for cutting and pasting too much and now she is after me for not pasting enough. hmmmm

YES....any american should obsess on their President lying. How could any american not worry about lies from the White House.

I find it a knowing post.....it appears that what is wanted is stop telling me about the President lying...I do not want to hear that, so will put you on ignore and second hand in concert with Rubicon attack you personally.

DR. Gracie has done her psychoanalysis of me, which she seems to think she can do with anyone who might disagree with her.

She is wrong...I am simply worried about our country, and if Gracie and Rubicon cared any about our country, they would address his lies instead of running away from them and calling everyone else a liar and trying to somehow find an excuse for their apathy and not caring.

Stop with your psycho babble and get involved instead of allowing others to tell you how to think.

Fragile I am not....your friends have called me names some obscene, criticized me for doing what you want me to do.

Gracie, grow up.....if you want discussion, get involved, understand what is reality. If not, stop accusing people of things that you are doing.....calling people liars is not something to take lightly.

Ignoring lying from the White House should be an obsession of EVERY SINGLE AMERICAN and to actually criticize me for "obsessing" on the President lying DAILY is incredible to even hear or read. You suggest we just shouldn't care. I do, a lot.


What do you stand for Gracie ? Truth and honesty is out....what do you stand for. Is it to allow you to accuse anyone of anything with no recourse ?

PS....for Gracie should she ever see this. My personal life is none of your business. It wasn't when I served this country in the Navy, the Pentagon, the White House briefly and it still is none of your business. It was not while I worked and traveled on behalf of the Republican party for many years and it still is none of your business. It was not when worked with under privaleged kids in Pennsylvania and in Tampa, and it is till none of your business. Your obsession with what I do with my life INSTEAD of showing any concern for your country is noted. I would never have the nerve to question your personal life and object strongly to you questioning mine.

[graciegirl]

So you never met the guy, know he is crazy, yet allow him on your Facebook.

Sorry if I made you go back and remove your bad use of anymore posts.

Ladybird Deeds? Never heard them described in those words. I don't think you need to continue with this line of disparagement, ANYMORE.

[Rockyrd]

Did Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, really tell a reporter that it was wrong to question a general? That seems to be what happened at the White House press briefing Friday afternoon as she took questions about dramatic and controversial remarks by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly on Thursday, when he lashed out at a Democratic congresswoman over the president’s call to an Army widow.


"If you want to go after General Kelly, that’s up to you. But I think that if you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, then I think that’s something highly inappropriate," Huckabee Sanders said when asked about inaccuracies in Kelly’s statement. Kelly is in fact retired from the military and serves in a civilian capacity.

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"Ironically, then-candidate Trump took a shot in 2016 at General John Allen, then a four-star general, for comments he had said were supportive of Hillary Clinton. “His record=BAD,” Trump tweeted at the time. Allen has since retired and been named the president of the Brookings Institution."



Don’t Question the Generals, White House Press Secretary Says (http://www.newsweek.com/dont-question-generals-sanders-says-689848)

[ColdNoMore]

Did Sarah Huckabee Sanders, the White House press secretary, really tell a reporter that it was wrong to question a general? That seems to be what happened at the White House press briefing Friday afternoon as she took questions about dramatic and controversial remarks by White House Chief of Staff John Kelly on Thursday, when he lashed out at a Democratic congresswoman over the president’s call to an Army widow.


"If you want to go after General Kelly, that’s up to you. But I think that if you want to get into a debate with a four-star Marine general, then I think that’s something highly inappropriate," Huckabee Sanders said when asked about inaccuracies in Kelly’s statement. Kelly is in fact retired from the military and serves in a civilian capacity.

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"Ironically, then-candidate Trump took a shot in 2016 at General John Allen, then a four-star general, for comments he had said were supportive of Hillary Clinton. “His record=BAD,” Trump tweeted at the time. Allen has since retired and been named the president of the Brookings Institution."



Don’t Question the Generals, White House Press Secretary Says (http://www.newsweek.com/dont-question-generals-sanders-says-689848)

Maybe, with her upbringing, she was told to also worship... military generals? :shrug:

[Don Baldwin]

Maybe, with her upbringing, she was told to also worship... military generals? :shrug:

Who said that?

CNM?

Like children are told that there's a God who watches over everything and everybody...who will one day judge you and determine if you go to Heaven, where you live in perpetual paradise forever...or Hell where you spend eternity being tortured. Worship or face the consequences...oh...and that'll be 10% please.

Told that the races are equal...the ONLY difference being skin color, hair texture, hair color, skeletal structure, musculature, physiology, disease susceptibility, intellect, reasoning, self control,ambition, and genetically being 1/20th different than EVERY other race.

Told boys and girls are the same...the ONLY difference being girls have babies and boys don't.

Right? You meant told stuff like that? Just do it...because it's the "right" thing to do.

Worship generals. Because the Army are our guys and we're ALWAYS on the side of right. Right?