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rubicon
10-22-2017, 10:21 AM
The controversy concerning Trump Derangement Syndrome apparently, again needs clarification.

What it is not. It is not about Trump himself. But, rather about a "strawman" concocted/invented by self interest detractors intent on stopping the Trump Administration from usurping their power and control.

How does It survive? It survives because those self interest detractors have key placement in the news media, academia, Hollywood , intelligence community and political Establishment and hence dominate the news and the false narrative.

This is a pivotal point in the direction this nation will take as it is internationalist vs nationalist. As internationalist I mean other world leaders making decisions for Americans such as the UN

Modus Operandi The aforementioned players are all well attuned to the progressive /Establishment dog whistle and they play off one another. In that Trump will never get a fair hearing no matter what he or his Administration accomplishes.

Trump the Man There is no question that Trump is an individualistic, an alpha male that needs to be top dog. There is no question that he is well versed in the sub-tiles of the business world and he has street smarts.
He is aggressive, a risk taker, and one who, when he sets his sights on a target he will not let go. As stated before what makes us good makes us bad.

Trump despite his education and vast world travel is surprisingly lacking in communications skills and is rough around the edges. But he doesn't thankful speak in Washington speak

However the key point is that he has no ties to anyone in the political world. Worse for his detractors once he sets his sights on something he is like a pit bull and won't let go.

There has not been a politician , with backbone,like this for so long that opponents don't know how to react. its why they all have puzzled looks on their face he actually does what he said he will do

Instinctively they know he will do what he has promised to do and that scares the bejesus out of them.

So they invent fake news, stories, accuse him of being
( you fill in the blank) anything to stop him and have continued that false narrative

Hence Trump Derangement Syndrome ( the obsession with Trump the Man). used to belittle out of hate, fear, misinformation, but never do they speak to the issues
because they re not serious adults.

Personal Best Regards:

Don Baldwin
10-22-2017, 10:51 AM
The controversy concerning Trump Derangement Syndrome apparently, again needs clarification.

What it is not. It is not about Trump himself. But, rather about a "strawman" concocted/invented by self interest detractors intent on stopping the Trump Administration from usurping their power and control.

How does It survive? It survives because those self interest detractors have key placement in the news media, academia, Hollywood , intelligence community and political Establishment and hence dominate the news and the false narrative.

This is a pivotal point in the direction this nation will take as it is internationalist vs nationalist. As internationalist I mean other world leaders making decisions for Americans such as the UN

Modus Operandi The aforementioned players are all well attuned to the progressive /Establishment dog whistle and they play off one another. In that Trump will never get a fair hearing no matter what he or his Administration accomplishes.

Trump the Man There is no question that Trump is an individualistic, an alpha male that needs to be top dog. There is no question that he is well versed in the sub-tiles of the business world and he has street smarts.
He is aggressive, a risk taker, and one who, when he sets his sights on a target he will not let go. As stated before what makes us good makes us bad.

Trump despite his education and vast world travel is surprisingly lacking in communications skills and is rough around the edges. But he doesn't thankful speak in Washington speak

However the key point is that he has no ties to anyone in the political world. Worse for his detractors once he sets his sights on something he is like a pit bull and won't let go.

There has not been a politician , with backbone,like this for so long that opponents don't know how to react. its why they all have puzzled looks on their face he actually does what he said he will do

Instinctively they know he will do what he has promised to do and that scares the bejesus out of them.

So they invent fake news, stories, accuse him of being
( you fill in the blank) anything to stop him and have continued that false narrative

Hence Trump Derangement Syndrome ( the obsession with Trump the Man). used to belittle out of hate, fear, misinformation, but never do they speak to the issues
because they re not serious adults.

Personal Best Regards:

It DOESN'T matter! The KEY point is...the politicians WORK FOR THE WEALTHY...not the other way around.

Politicians are the employees of the powerful and wealthy...our ONLY choice is which of these two would you prefer...a D or an R...to lord over you? It WILL be one of these two...of that...you have NO choice. Because we've cleverly convinced you that ONLY "our guy" are "viable".

rubicon
10-23-2017, 04:04 PM
It DOESN'T matter! The KEY point is...the politicians WORK FOR THE WEALTHY...not the other way around.

Politicians are the employees of the powerful and wealthy...our ONLY choice is which of these two would you prefer...a D or an R...to lord over you? It WILL be one of these two...of that...you have NO choice. Because we've cleverly convinced you that ONLY "our guy" are "viable".

I am well aware and Trump is actually not my guy but the only guy who holds out hope to put a dent in the monolith we call government. Will he cave?

His tweets do two things 1) they mesh with today's humor which merges with reality 2) they make you think past the sell

Personal Best Regards:

Ron_Ski
10-23-2017, 04:20 PM
Trump derangement syndrome is nothing more than a take off on Bush derangement syndrome.

Per Wikipedia: American pundit and psychiatrist Charles Krauthammer, noting the reaction of liberals to George W. Bush and his policies,
in a 2003 column coined the term Bush Derangement Syndrome to describe "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction
to the policies, the presidency—nay—the very existence of George W. Bush"

Rockyrd
10-23-2017, 04:40 PM
The controversy concerning Trump Derangement Syndrome apparently, again needs clarification.

What it is not. It is not about Trump himself. But, rather about a "strawman" concocted/invented by self interest detractors intent on stopping the Trump Administration from usurping their power and control.

How does It survive? It survives because those self interest detractors have key placement in the news media, academia, Hollywood , intelligence community and political Establishment and hence dominate the news and the false narrative.

This is a pivotal point in the direction this nation will take as it is internationalist vs nationalist. As internationalist I mean other world leaders making decisions for Americans such as the UN

Modus Operandi The aforementioned players are all well attuned to the progressive /Establishment dog whistle and they play off one another. In that Trump will never get a fair hearing no matter what he or his Administration accomplishes.

Trump the Man There is no question that Trump is an individualistic, an alpha male that needs to be top dog. There is no question that he is well versed in the sub-tiles of the business world and he has street smarts.
He is aggressive, a risk taker, and one who, when he sets his sights on a target he will not let go. As stated before what makes us good makes us bad.

Trump despite his education and vast world travel is surprisingly lacking in communications skills and is rough around the edges. But he doesn't thankful speak in Washington speak

However the key point is that he has no ties to anyone in the political world. Worse for his detractors once he sets his sights on something he is like a pit bull and won't let go.

There has not been a politician , with backbone,like this for so long that opponents don't know how to react. its why they all have puzzled looks on their face he actually does what he said he will do

Instinctively they know he will do what he has promised to do and that scares the bejesus out of them.

So they invent fake news, stories, accuse him of being
( you fill in the blank) anything to stop him and have continued that false narrative

Hence Trump Derangement Syndrome ( the obsession with Trump the Man). used to belittle out of hate, fear, misinformation, but never do they speak to the issues
because they re not serious adults.

Personal Best Regards:

As akways you make accusations with never offering any substance....what stories have been invented ? What news is being reported that is made up ?

And do not refer me to Alex Jones again...going anywhere near his website is taking a risk of virus or worse. You two can share conspiracy theories and accusations together., but do not use that nut case to back u up the unamerican claims.

And you always, without fail in any of your little self indulgent speeches ever ever mention where the TRUTH fits in with Trump. He is allowed to lie from the seat of our government..why ? Do not go to anybody else....just tell me where Trump and the Truth come together without using the alt right Alex Jones distortion of facts and conspiracies.

I can live with an egoist President. I can even support some policies, but what makes you trust a proven liar ?

Rockyrd
10-23-2017, 06:26 PM
PRESIDENTIAL LOGIC ? ALT RIGHT EXTREMIST LOGIC ?


"You can’t trust the media, according to President Trump — unless the media happens to tell you that many people don’t trust the media. In that case, you can trust that the media is reporting trustworthy information about the public’s distrust of the media.

It makes sense, if you don’t think about it.

Trump claimed in a tweet Sunday that almost half of Americans believe major news outlets fabricate reports about him. He didn’t cite his source, perhaps because it was Politico, which he has consistently called unreliable.

“Unreliable” is putting it mildly. The president’s exact language about Politico is “the dumbest and most slanted of the political sites” — a “phony,” “third-rate,” “dishonest” “scam” published by “losers,” “clowns,” “serious haters” and “some very untalented reporters.”

Trump’s position is clear: Don’t believe Politico.

Trump says poll about fake news, published by ‘dishonest’ Politico, is real news - The Washington Post (https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2017/10/23/trump-says-poll-about-fake-news-published-by-dishonest-politico-is-real-news/?utm_term=.0d594d2ecbc9)

This is the man you all want to believe and put above your country

Don Baldwin
10-23-2017, 08:24 PM
You're obsessed with political theater...reality TV...like the Kardashians...only it's the Trumps.

Women...get them OUT of important decisions...they are RULED by emotions. Very few are rational and practical.

dirtbanker
10-23-2017, 08:35 PM
This is the man you all want to believe and put above your country

I see your still pi$$ed that you wasted your vote on Dopey Smurf for president...LOSER!

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Wiotte
10-23-2017, 10:33 PM
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dirtbanker
10-24-2017, 06:32 AM
I believe "The Boy" is back...

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graciegirl
10-24-2017, 06:39 AM
Trump derangement syndrome is nothing more than a take off on Bush derangement syndrome.

Per Wikipedia: American pundit and psychiatrist Charles Krauthammer, noting the reaction of liberals to George W. Bush and his policies,
in a 2003 column coined the term Bush Derangement Syndrome to describe "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction
to the policies, the presidency—nay—the very existence of George W. Bush"

Now who are you? Ski-Ron?

Use of the term "Is nothing more" shows a belittling attitude to a thoughtful poster.

Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 07:25 AM
“Hopefully what presidents do is try to bring everyone together...and not debase our country. And that has not happened,” @SenBobCorker says"

Ron_Ski
10-24-2017, 08:19 AM
Now who are you? Ski-Ron?

Use of the term "Is nothing more" shows a belittling attitude to a thoughtful poster.

After re-reading the OP post, I agree and I apologize. I meant no disrespect. I should have just mentioned who coined the phrase
to begin with and that it originally applied to a previous president. Although, this time around, it seems to be much more severe as exemplified by post #9.

Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 08:36 AM
After re-reading the OP post, I agree and I apologize. I meant no disrespect. I should have just mentioned who coined the phrase
to begin with and that it originally applied to a previous president. Although, this time around, it seems to be much more severe as exemplified by post #9.

I do not believe you did anything wrong at all.

More belittling than anything is the very use of that phrase. It denotes a superiority attitude and is meant to demean anyone who disagrees with him or her.

You offered up the history to show its inception and that is great.

"Is nothing more" was very clear and I might add....accurate. As I said the use of the term over and over to avoid discussion is what is a "belittling attitude"

dirtbanker
10-24-2017, 08:39 AM
“Hopefully what presidents do is try to bring everyone together...and not debase our country. And that has not happened,” @SenBobCorker says"

Are you a Bob Corker fan?

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Wiotte
10-24-2017, 08:45 AM
Are you a Bob Corker fan?

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10-24-2017, 08:45 AM
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10-24-2017, 08:46 AM
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10-24-2017, 08:47 AM
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10-24-2017, 08:48 AM
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Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 08:51 AM
Are you a Bob Corker fan?

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He nailed it and I quoted him. End of story.

He is correct 100%......as chairman of the Foreign Relations comm.he is more aware than most of the terrible risk our country i s at with this President, and has pretty much been someone who can see both sides.

Fan ? No.....I am no fan of anyone elected to office. I respect some more than others for their honesty and patriotism, but would not call me a fan of any at all.

May be far fetched for most of you extremists of the alt right to understand, but my country comes first before any one man or woman.

Note all the conversations around our President, you extremists ignore whether he is telling the truth or not, whether he changes stories or not, whether he levels unsubstantiated accusations or no.....because he is first in your mind, and not our country.

He found a place, the Presidency, where he can actually hide (immunity from prosecution while in office is the prevailing law opinion) and thus he simply uses it to hurt others, who would be subject to lawsuit after lawsuit.

Fan ? No, just thought his comment coming from a man who began by believing Trump and now has seen enough. Word is in the halls of congress, most elected Republican officials feel the same way, but are not in a position to say it publicly....YET

Don Baldwin
10-24-2017, 08:51 AM
And you wonder why Trump isn't fond of the media?

Don Baldwin
10-24-2017, 08:53 AM
He nailed it and I quoted him. End of story.

He is correct 100%......as chairman of the Foreign Relations comm.he is more aware than most of the terrible risk our country i s at with this President, and has pretty much been someone who can see both sides.

Fan ? No.....I am no fan of anyone elected to office. I respect some more than others for their honesty and patriotism, but would not call me a fan of any at all.

May be far fetched for most of you extremists of the alt right to understand, but my country comes first before any one man or woman.

Note all the conversations around our President, you extremists ignore whether he is telling the truth or not, whether he changes stories or not, whether he levels unsubstantiated accusations or no.....because he is first in your mind, and not our country.

He found a place, the Presidency, where he can actually hide (immunity from prosecution while in office is the prevailing law opinion) and thus he simply uses it to hurt others, who would be subject to lawsuit after lawsuit.

Fan ? No, just thought his comment coming from a man who began by believing Trump and now has seen enough. Word is in the halls of congress, most elected Republican officials feel the same way, but are not in a position to say it publicly....YET

None of them are honest or patriotic. They help others STEAL from OUR treasury.

Taltarzac725
10-24-2017, 08:59 AM
He nailed it and I quoted him. End of story.

He is correct 100%......as chairman of the Foreign Relations comm.he is more aware than most of the terrible risk our country i s at with this President, and has pretty much been someone who can see both sides.

Fan ? No.....I am no fan of anyone elected to office. I respect some more than others for their honesty and patriotism, but would not call me a fan of any at all.

May be far fetched for most of you extremists of the alt right to understand, but my country comes first before any one man or woman.

Note all the conversations around our President, you extremists ignore whether he is telling the truth or not, whether he changes stories or not, whether he levels unsubstantiated accusations or no.....because he is first in your mind, and not our country.

He found a place, the Presidency, where he can actually hide (immunity from prosecution while in office is the prevailing law opinion) and thus he simply uses it to hurt others, who would be subject to lawsuit after lawsuit.

Fan ? No, just thought his comment coming from a man who began by believing Trump and now has seen enough. Word is in the halls of congress, most elected Republican officials feel the same way, but are not in a position to say it publicly....YET

I hope that they stand up to Donald John Trump and soon!!

jebartle
10-24-2017, 09:06 AM
As akways you make accusations with never offering any substance....what stories have been invented ? What news is being reported that is made up ?

And do not refer me to Alex Jones again...going anywhere near his website is taking a risk of virus or worse. You two can share conspiracy theories and accusations together., but do not use that nut case to back u up the unamerican claims.

And you always, without fail in any of your little self indulgent speeches ever ever mention where the TRUTH fits in with Trump. He is allowed to lie from the seat of our government..why ? Do not go to anybody else....just tell me where Trump and the Truth come together without using the alt right Alex Jones distortion of facts and conspiracies.

I can live with an egoist President. I can even support some policies, but what makes you trust a proven liar ?

Finally, someone understands that "at best" Trump is a horrible distortion of TRUTH,, something that is mandatory when he espoused during campaign to bring truth to government, another lie!!!!

And please, please, we are talking about Trump, no one else.

Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 01:47 PM
"Sen. Bob Corker, R-Tenn., in choosing to revive and escalate his critique of President Trump, has crossed a critical threshold in questioning the president’s fitness for the office he occupies. The fact that he’s not alone in his party – and that is a fact - has implications for the president’s ability to govern from here.

The chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee is now on the record saying that Trump is “debasing our nation,” engaging in “constant non-truth telling,” and even “kneecapping” public servants in his own administration who are trying to avert war.

This is a senior Republican leader and a onetime advocate for the Trump coming close to declaring that the president is not fit for the presidency."


ANALYSIS: Corker draws line in the sand in questioning Trump's fitness for office - ABC News (http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/analysis-corker-draws-line-sand-questioning-trumps-fitness/story?id=50684528)

rubicon
10-24-2017, 01:57 PM
As akways you make accusations with never offering any substance....what stories have been invented ? What news is being reported that is made up ?

And do not refer me to Alex Jones again...going anywhere near his website is taking a risk of virus or worse. You two can share conspiracy theories and accusations together., but do not use that nut case to back u up the unamerican claims.

And you always, without fail in any of your little self indulgent speeches ever ever mention where the TRUTH fits in with Trump. He is allowed to lie from the seat of our government..why ? Do not go to anybody else....just tell me where Trump and the Truth come together without using the alt right Alex Jones distortion of facts and conspiracies.

I can live with an egoist President. I can even support some policies, but what makes you trust a proven liar ?

i cannot ID who you are However, what more can I say you already answered for me.:D

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rubicon
10-24-2017, 02:00 PM
Trump derangement syndrome is nothing more than a take off on Bush derangement syndrome.

Per Wikipedia: American pundit and psychiatrist Charles Krauthammer, noting the reaction of liberals to George W. Bush and his policies,
in a 2003 column coined the term Bush Derangement Syndrome to describe "the acute onset of paranoia in otherwise normal people in reaction
to the policies, the presidency—nay—the very existence of George W. Bush"

You are correct. Too many progressive have and utilize the same modus operandi for every person and for every situation

They have all become so Alinsky-esque

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rubicon
10-24-2017, 02:13 PM
Finally, someone understands that "at best" Trump is a horrible distortion of TRUTH,, something that is mandatory when he espoused during campaign to bring truth to government, another lie!!!!

And please, please, we are talking about Trump, no one else.

Please take five minutes and reflect on what was said and done and/or not said and done concerning scandals emanating from the Democratic side. there are past and current issues involving Democrats and despite substantive evidence prosecutors , the FBI, etc have not investigated or pre-determined the outcome before the investigation has been concluded. Yet when it came to bush and Trump their detractors have been ruthless with their fishing expeditions bent on doing damage one way or another.

the difference between the two is its spectators (we the people) with Trump too many progressive act out as a lynch mob demanding blood and ignoring the need for a
fair trial.

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Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 02:19 PM
Please take five minutes and reflect on what was said and done and/or not said and done concerning scandals emanating from the Democratic side. there are past and current issues involving Democrats and despite substantive evidence prosecutors , the FBI, etc have not investigated or pre-determined the outcome before the investigation has been concluded. Yet when it came to bush and Trump their detractors have been ruthless with their fishing expeditions bent on doing damage one way or another.

the difference between the two is its spectators (we the people) with Trump too many progressive act out as a lynch mob demanding blood and ignoring the need for a
fair trial.

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Have you been reading anything except Alex Jones ?

It is far...very far...from simply progressives, democrats, etc.

Eyes wide open to your alt right white nationalist movement, fronted with the phoniest of supposed patriotism.

Sandtrap328
10-24-2017, 02:40 PM
Have you been reading anything except Alex Jones ?

It is far...very far...from simply progressives, democrats, etc.

Eyes wide open to your alt right white nationalist movement, fronted with the phoniest of supposed patriotism.

Rockyard,

100% correct!

Senator Jeff Flake just ripped Trump a new one with a speech in the Senate that could go down as one of the great speeches.

This alt right white nationalist movement has me scared and looking too much like the beginning of a Hitler-like period.

Buggy

Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 03:51 PM
Rockyard,

100% correct!

Senator Jeff Flake just ripped Trump a new one with a speech in the Senate that could go down as one of the great speeches.

This alt right white nationalist movement has me scared and looking too much like the beginning of a Hitler-like period.

Buggy

These people on here and their ilk are so reminiscent of pre war Germany, if you read history, it is terrifying. They dont see it and neither did they see what they were doing in Germany.

And you are correct, as one link I posted mentioned, the fear and loathing WITHIN THE REPUBLICAN PARTY IS PALPABLE AND REAL

I am hoping it continues to the conclusion it deserves. Having someone lie from the White House should be disconcerting for any true americans but these people who worry about HIM and not the country are even more disconcerting.

You. for sure, know how conservative and anti progressive I can be, and these folks on here are so far out in the word of fantasy that even I am driven away from the hatred, bigotry and devotion to a man before the country.

How does one get so out of touch with reality....so much tuned into conspiracy instead of reality, so comfortable with lies, and wrap it all in the flag with such phony phony patriotism.

I am glad that these guys are stepping up, and hope that the silent assenters begin to have their voice heard. It is tough for them with a sitting President in a lot of ways.

Watch and read on here......

The media is lying and making this up

Those guys speaking out are bums and are lying (over stated...we KNOW that these radicals on here say everyone is lying...everyone)

Mostly they will say things like Trump is being treated unfairly.

Have you ever gone through 9 months of such uneasiness of such constant and ongoing chaos, of personal attacks and accusations.

I thought Trump could never be so callous as he was with the boy scouts but his adventure in lying about contacting the families of fallen troops was so absolutely unamerican and unfeeling that it simply turned my stomach.

Sometimes we agree Buggy.....it took a Trump !!!

Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 06:23 PM
And to all you extreme alt right white nationalists who could care less about my country, please do not come on here and further the blatant lies by the White House about Sen Corker.

The world is watching all of this as a black and white issue that shows the President is again lying.

Imagine how the world sees this country, with a lying President.

Wiotte
10-24-2017, 06:38 PM
Let us not forget this...

“First they came for the Socialists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Socialist.

Then they came for the Trade Unionists, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Trade Unionist.

Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—
Because I was not a Jew.

Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.”

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Wiotte
10-24-2017, 06:41 PM
The new Russian sanctions were to go into effect 01Oct17.
The president has yet to enforce these sanctions.


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Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 06:47 PM
The new Russian sanctions were to go into effect 01Oct17.
The president has yet to enforce these sanctions.


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Those anti American alt right white nationalists will defend Trump in all things including this.


"The Trump administration has failed to place new sanctions on Russia, further deepening allegations the president is soft on Russia.

New sanctions resoundingly flew through both chambers of Congress in July, President Donald Trump signed the “Countering America’s Adversaries Through Sanctions Act” on August 2. The bill called for fresh sanctions not only on Russia but Iran and North Korea as well.

But the administration missed the October 1 deadline to “issue regulations or other guidance” to indicate who from Russia’s defense and intelligence sectors—like its powerful Federal Security Service—would be targeted by the new sanctions."

Trump Fails To Sanction Russia Over Election Meddling and Defies Congress With Three-Week Delay (http://www.newsweek.com/trump-russia-sanctions-deadline-690730)

Rockyrd
10-24-2017, 07:14 PM
How do you fanatics decide what comes out of his mouth is a lie, a white lie, etc.

Do you all hate your country so much that you bow to deceit ?

Still working on the post about who paid for Fusion to investigate Trump (was a Repub group, then Clinton, then DNC). Really concerned about that, disregarding Trump Jr meeting with a foreign country for that purpose, AND totally not caring what that dossier may contain. That is incredible.

But, there must be some litmus test or I suppose not caring is most likely. Trump comes first,..defend him at all costs


"President Donald Trump tweeted 75 words about Tennessee Republican Sen. Bob Corker on Tuesday morning, saying at least two things that aren't true and two more that are debatable."

Donald Trump'''s Twitter Attacks on Bob Corker, Fact Checked | Time.com (http://time.com/4994789/donald-trump-twitter-bob-corker/)